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skeletorexplains ONLINE (01/06/2016) [-] 
I hate i am one of the few that hated this "Balance of power" update when it came out and i first took it apart as the OP nonsense it was, all the random scepters n changes "Hey whats better than a drow? A Drow with Multishot!"
And of course on the Dota community forums i get called a low tier nub for calling out the OP ******** across the board, even saying i use Arc Warden as a supp because it can be anything.
But then when a dota youtuber says the same **** i did, they get praised n nodding in agreement.
There's no winning at all.
And of course on the Dota community forums i get called a low tier nub for calling out the OP ******** across the board, even saying i use Arc Warden as a supp because it can be anything.
But then when a dota youtuber says the same **** i did, they get praised n nodding in agreement.
There's no winning at all.
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bluemagebrilly ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-] It's Aether Lens, Pudge's new aghs, and Dragon Lance that I have an issue with on the latest update. Arc is also a little broken with rapiers, but nerfing his illusion to not have bonus damage or something would probably make him pretty weak.
But Arc aside, it's really Aether Lens I hope gets removed or just changed entirely. Not only is it way too cheap for what it does, but none of the spells are really balanced around it. A 1500 range Hook / Burrow Strike (with Aghs) is way too much and making Fissure longer on Shaker is dumb. Plus Ice Path + Pyre on Jak get extended too. It's just way too good for its price, and that 8% extra damage is retarded for characters with a lot of spell damage like Zeus.
Pudge is the worst this update, though. With Lens and the new Aghs, the hooks do around 510 damage every 4 seconds. Pure damage. That's 2000+ damage in 16 seconds if you land every hook. Only auto attackers with crits, which requires a lot more gold, or Enigma can deal out that much damage so fast. Granted, you have to land the hook, but 1500 range makes that extremely easy. Plus his Dismember having the 50% Strength = extra damage makes him even way more overpowered than he already was... and that also gets amped by the Lens.
Dragon Lance is also annoying, but not overly so. The issue is more that it's not balanced for any of the characters, and you have to have certain characters to really close the gap already. Sniper with insane range is also annoying to deal with.
The whole update was just too dumb for me, but I still play the game and hope they fix / remove stuff. I definitely, at the very least, see a change to Shadow Fiend's aghs incoming. Probably something like "no longer loses souls on death" to negate his weakness, but that might be too strong. It's worthless right now, though.
But Arc aside, it's really Aether Lens I hope gets removed or just changed entirely. Not only is it way too cheap for what it does, but none of the spells are really balanced around it. A 1500 range Hook / Burrow Strike (with Aghs) is way too much and making Fissure longer on Shaker is dumb. Plus Ice Path + Pyre on Jak get extended too. It's just way too good for its price, and that 8% extra damage is retarded for characters with a lot of spell damage like Zeus.
Pudge is the worst this update, though. With Lens and the new Aghs, the hooks do around 510 damage every 4 seconds. Pure damage. That's 2000+ damage in 16 seconds if you land every hook. Only auto attackers with crits, which requires a lot more gold, or Enigma can deal out that much damage so fast. Granted, you have to land the hook, but 1500 range makes that extremely easy. Plus his Dismember having the 50% Strength = extra damage makes him even way more overpowered than he already was... and that also gets amped by the Lens.
Dragon Lance is also annoying, but not overly so. The issue is more that it's not balanced for any of the characters, and you have to have certain characters to really close the gap already. Sniper with insane range is also annoying to deal with.
The whole update was just too dumb for me, but I still play the game and hope they fix / remove stuff. I definitely, at the very least, see a change to Shadow Fiend's aghs incoming. Probably something like "no longer loses souls on death" to negate his weakness, but that might be too strong. It's worthless right now, though.
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gameshredder (01/07/2016) [-] I tried arc warden as a support and it's the hardest **** i've ever done. Arc Warden, in my eyes, should build the same way a carry Nature's Prophet does. High damage, attack speed items and attacking only people that are alone.
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skeletorexplains ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-] Its hard but the benefits are great in teamfights, I can heal both before a fight and after, I can get a few of their ulti's out of the way, Double up on basic support items. I've saved a lot of teammates with just some Guardian greaves alone not to mention all the illusions and minions i send into the fights.
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gameshredder (01/07/2016) [-] I'm really bad at microing, so playing a support (especially with illusions) Arc Warden is impossible for me.
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drtrousersnake (01/06/2016) [-] im just mad they made ion shell purgable. I miss broken dark seer from 4 years ago when i started playing dota and he could 1v5 a team with a 5 man cliff into a wall.
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anon (01/06/2016) [-] Tbh fam you sound like a nub.
None of the new stuff in the patch is OP, least of all Drow (kek)
Arc Warden support is a stupid way to play one of, if not the most farm-intensive cores in the game, so versatile, but a **** support.
The Dota 2 community is ******* retarded and think that Legion Commander should ever be allowed to jungle so I wouldn't listen to what Dota youtubers say.
None of the new stuff in the patch is OP, least of all Drow (kek)
Arc Warden support is a stupid way to play one of, if not the most farm-intensive cores in the game, so versatile, but a **** support.
The Dota 2 community is ******* retarded and think that Legion Commander should ever be allowed to jungle so I wouldn't listen to what Dota youtubers say.
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dreygur (01/06/2016) [-] He's a pretty **** core as well. His power is limited beyond his activatables and his stats are pure garbage. Having the double of everything sounds good on paper, but it isn't that good in practice when compared to Ember Spirit and Anti-Mage.
Ratting and sidecarrying are what he excels at, from my experience playing him.
Ratting and sidecarrying are what he excels at, from my experience playing him.
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anon (01/06/2016) [-]
Dota 2 has probably the worst community of any game ever. But the patch has done a few things wrong, E.G. buffing Pudge. You know the most played hero with no sign of decline. Frosty Toad has also been keeping on track of making Core's more and more important and playing support sucking more and more Not to say you can't carry as a support but the fact that the Mid/End game heroes are getting stronger early, getting better base stats etc is causing playing a support to feel second class. Also i will ignore the artificial skill cap that he likes to keep and the fact that one of the worst nerfs to Earth Spirit for me was the way he interacted with his Remnants. He made a hero weaker by making him less fluid,feeling like he was designed by a retard.
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anon (01/06/2016) [-]
You say "no sign of decline", but in the last 3 months Windranger has been played more than pudge. Icefrog supposedly balances based on competitive dota, and this patch has certainly made pudge viable in competitive which is entertaining. Cores are getting stronger but I think playing support this patch is better than it's been in a while, the new paths through the jungle mean that wards are even more valuable. It's easier to get money as a support, and the focus on cores makes good smoke ganks rewarding.
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skeletorexplains ONLINE (01/06/2016) [-] So you're saying a Support can't get a Midas?...
Guess i'm playing Silencer wrong.
Guess i'm playing Silencer wrong.
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anon (01/06/2016) [-]
A support can get midas, although Silencer midas is a little dumb (especially for support silencer) at least he makes use of the attack speed and the XP is good. Support isn't a hero who buys wards it's a position, position 5, lowest farm priority. Arc warden gets a lot of value out of gold and it's a complete waste of the hero to play a support when a farmed arc warden can take rax without ever leaving his fountain.
Slahsers way Silencer best silencer.
Slahsers way Silencer best silencer.
