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#36
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jinxil **User deleted account** (06/05/2012) [-]
Wow, seriously guys? These steps are fucking BULLSHIT!
There are a few factors you need to look at here, From a girls POV if she does not find you sexually attractive when she first meets you, you do not stand a chance in hell
Example: Say you happened to be good friends with Susan Boyle, she had an amazing personality, she took the steps, they wouldn't work BECAUSE she looks like SUSAN FUCKING BOYLE, be honest you would be disgusted & would run a fucking mile if she took any of these steps especially if she started talking about the time when one guy took her up the arse, one up the fanny, while she sucked off the other, while she gave the other a wank. Oh, &NEVER TALK ABOUT ANAL! (or disgusting shit)
"Oh, but if I have a good personality she has to fall in love with me" NO she doesn't! (see example 1/2)
Example 2: You are the elephant man & had an amazing personality, if you took any of these steps on this post towards an attractive female friend of yours they would not work because YOU looks like the elephant man.
BUT If you act like you are not interested too she will go else where.
Face it if you keep on wolf whistling every girl that walks past &checking them out she will think you are a sexual predator.
If a girl doesn't see you as a potential boyfriend when she first lays eyes on you then it will never happen, doesn't matter if you are a shy, nice or a cuntish guy, Even if you are not the elephant man and EVEN if you didn't make moves on her the first few times of seeing her that is NOT reason you were 'friend zoned' there is no chemistry.
I know if I am sexually attracted to someone within first sight, I had this with a really shy guy who likes me, hasn't made any moves (shyness) but I still see him as a potential boyfriend, he is bigger built, doesn't look like Brad Pitt, but there is still something there I find sexually attractive.
If there is no chemistry first time meeting or she doesn't find you sexually attractive NOTING will happen.
There are a few factors you need to look at here, From a girls POV if she does not find you sexually attractive when she first meets you, you do not stand a chance in hell
Example: Say you happened to be good friends with Susan Boyle, she had an amazing personality, she took the steps, they wouldn't work BECAUSE she looks like SUSAN FUCKING BOYLE, be honest you would be disgusted & would run a fucking mile if she took any of these steps especially if she started talking about the time when one guy took her up the arse, one up the fanny, while she sucked off the other, while she gave the other a wank. Oh, &NEVER TALK ABOUT ANAL! (or disgusting shit)
"Oh, but if I have a good personality she has to fall in love with me" NO she doesn't! (see example 1/2)
Example 2: You are the elephant man & had an amazing personality, if you took any of these steps on this post towards an attractive female friend of yours they would not work because YOU looks like the elephant man.
BUT If you act like you are not interested too she will go else where.
Face it if you keep on wolf whistling every girl that walks past &checking them out she will think you are a sexual predator.
If a girl doesn't see you as a potential boyfriend when she first lays eyes on you then it will never happen, doesn't matter if you are a shy, nice or a cuntish guy, Even if you are not the elephant man and EVEN if you didn't make moves on her the first few times of seeing her that is NOT reason you were 'friend zoned' there is no chemistry.
I know if I am sexually attracted to someone within first sight, I had this with a really shy guy who likes me, hasn't made any moves (shyness) but I still see him as a potential boyfriend, he is bigger built, doesn't look like Brad Pitt, but there is still something there I find sexually attractive.
If there is no chemistry first time meeting or she doesn't find you sexually attractive NOTING will happen.
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Mr Fist (06/05/2012) [-]
it is impossible to map out any dating advice.
this is general advice and is not narrowed down just to your small little world where you only interact with 3 people. This post was made for the general population of human earth which most likely are completely different from you. (ya there is different people out there than just you!)
I apologize you are one of those people who this does not relate to at all with.
And lets be honest, everything that is said, is not met to give someone a "walk through tutorial" on how to get out. It is only to give them ideas, and the self motivation to get out. The biggest thing i know people get out of reading my posts are not "OH IM GOING TO DO EXACTLY THAT"
It is "wow, now I know how I have messed up, and now i know how I could improve myself"
you are one cynical bastard if you believe the only fuel that runs a relationship is looks.
this is general advice and is not narrowed down just to your small little world where you only interact with 3 people. This post was made for the general population of human earth which most likely are completely different from you. (ya there is different people out there than just you!)
I apologize you are one of those people who this does not relate to at all with.
And lets be honest, everything that is said, is not met to give someone a "walk through tutorial" on how to get out. It is only to give them ideas, and the self motivation to get out. The biggest thing i know people get out of reading my posts are not "OH IM GOING TO DO EXACTLY THAT"
It is "wow, now I know how I have messed up, and now i know how I could improve myself"
you are one cynical bastard if you believe the only fuel that runs a relationship is looks.
But according to Darwins theory these steps won't work :')
"The psychological mechanisms underlying these judgements of attractiveness in humans have evolved with the primary purpose of finding a high quality mate. Animals display traits and receive multiple signals related to some basic physical quality or attribute and science shows we are not very far removed from animals in these respects. The latest research suggests men and women are completely unaware at a conscious level of what truly attracts them to another person. When a group of young people were asked about their preferences before a speed dating session, the usual gender difference was found, in that men said they would prefer good looking women while women would seek men with good earning potential and nurturing capabilities. However, as these people made their choices during the speed dating session, it became apparent that the gender divide had disappeared, and there was no difference in the number of men and women who were attracted to a partner through looks. This is in line with the Darwinian theory of mate selection, with choosey females and competitive males. It seems that people are closer to animals than they might care to admit, and they are also intrinsically unaware of what they actually find attractive in a partner."
www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/attraction/the-science-of-magne tism-926693.html
Read the rest of the article, this was the point I was so boldy trying to make,
"The psychological mechanisms underlying these judgements of attractiveness in humans have evolved with the primary purpose of finding a high quality mate. Animals display traits and receive multiple signals related to some basic physical quality or attribute and science shows we are not very far removed from animals in these respects. The latest research suggests men and women are completely unaware at a conscious level of what truly attracts them to another person. When a group of young people were asked about their preferences before a speed dating session, the usual gender difference was found, in that men said they would prefer good looking women while women would seek men with good earning potential and nurturing capabilities. However, as these people made their choices during the speed dating session, it became apparent that the gender divide had disappeared, and there was no difference in the number of men and women who were attracted to a partner through looks. This is in line with the Darwinian theory of mate selection, with choosey females and competitive males. It seems that people are closer to animals than they might care to admit, and they are also intrinsically unaware of what they actually find attractive in a partner."
www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/attraction/the-science-of-magne tism-926693.html
Read the rest of the article, this was the point I was so boldy trying to make,
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cmoialexcui (06/05/2012) [-]
Honestly, his stuff is mostly right, i had forgotten how to get a girl attention and while reading i remembered that i have been pretty much on all theses steps (one important part is the "talk about sex" stuff, generally it it the point where it works or not) aka you are deep friend zoned or it works out.
Have these steps worked for you? If so congrats :) but the thing I am getting at is if there is no sexual chemistry between you these steps won't work at all, I have guy friends who do these steps, they don't work on me, I don't know why, maybe because they don't fit what I am looking for (example, if I don't find them attractive, they would never and never have left their home town or /travel/travelled, they have never had a job, or are lazy, he couldn't take me on adventures, is not that intelligent as in doesn't know what language they speak in South Africa but I still like hanging with him) . They steps won't work on everyone, just because she is your friend doesn't mean you have 'sexual chemistry' or she will ever consider you as a potencial boyfriend, girls and guys can NOT be sexually attracted to everyone, it's human nature.
I used the elephant man and susan boyle as examples to make the point that your looks matter too. It is a sad reality, but she has to find you attractive, don't say you would fall for Susan Boyle if she took these steps, sorry, wouldn't happen.
& by attractive, I don't mean muscles, perfect skin or hair and tall or someone who would be considered handsome by everyone, scientifically humans look for an ideal candidate to mate with, a good mate is someone you share mutual attraction with within the first meeting if you don't fit this criteria 9 times out of 10 these steps won't work.
I am just giving it from a girls point of view.
I used the elephant man and susan boyle as examples to make the point that your looks matter too. It is a sad reality, but she has to find you attractive, don't say you would fall for Susan Boyle if she took these steps, sorry, wouldn't happen.
& by attractive, I don't mean muscles, perfect skin or hair and tall or someone who would be considered handsome by everyone, scientifically humans look for an ideal candidate to mate with, a good mate is someone you share mutual attraction with within the first meeting if you don't fit this criteria 9 times out of 10 these steps won't work.
I am just giving it from a girls point of view.