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#2 - fallenoffacliff (12/25/2015) [-]
I love Zuko ships
#1 - theblackhorntail ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
Even him?
User avatar #3 to #1 - berengar (12/25/2015) [-]
Surprisingly, not too much of Pabu, unless you count the few random Pabu/Bolin things. Yes, I searched it. Why? I'm not sure.
#4 to #3 - theblackhorntail ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
This is why God doesn't visit us anymore...
#20 to #3 - ugoboom ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
User avatar #6 to #1 - guanyu (12/26/2015) [-]
Especially him.
User avatar #7 to #6 - slenderguy (12/26/2015) [-]
Uncle Iroh the most.
#15 - bigswingingrichard (12/26/2015) [-]
While Korra may have been an okay show, it will never compare to what TLA is. It isn't possible.
#11 - scootabot ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I think Korra had her own challenges she had to face and comparing Aang to Korra would be like comparing apples to oranges. The only thing they have in common is being the avatar.

Korra dealt with her own insecurities and realizing the fact that she's not invincible. She needs help. She's not this great, powerful thing she always thought she was and on her adventures, it was constantly reminding her that her best may not be enough.

Aang was different. He was dealing with the destruction of his entire people, all while running from the Fire Nation. He thought little of himself, he didn't think he was powerful enough to deal with all of these things being thrown at him. Through his adventures, he learned that he was strong, though he had to limit himself because he feared he may hurt those around him he cared about.

Korra was an amazing Avatar, as was Aang. They were both amazing in their own way.

Korra dated Bolin semi-seriously. She took him on mostly out of pity, but his brother was a better match for her. Though, they both had heated personalities so it didn't work out well in the end. I hated Mako. He was a decent character, but he was the typical 'pretty boy' with little personality. Bolin was better.

In the end, when Korra got with Asami, everyone complained about how it was pandering to LGBT+ communities. When all along, I could see that they had a connection, however loose it was. It wasn't until the end, during those months when Korra was injured, when I believed their relationship actually blossomed.

During her dealing with the emotional strife of being broken both spiritually and physically, Asami was there to help her through it all. If you can't get feelings for someone after them helping you like that, then I don't know how you fall in love. Asami was soft, yet strong. Korra was determined and hotheaded. Asami, in my opinion, sort of leveled her out.

So, Aang and Korra both had their adventures. Korra was in a different time. They were both great avatars and comparing them, like I said earlier, is like comparing apples and oranges. They're both fruits, but one isn't better than the other, other than through subjective opinion.
User avatar #25 to #11 - notmadguy (12/26/2015) [-]
Korra never dated Bolin. Bolin asked her out and they had a wonderful date night, even though Korra didn't know it was a date. They never dated though.
User avatar #27 to #25 - scootabot ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
Eh, it's why I said semi-seriously. I wasn't certain if it was mutual.

I do remember Bolin being heartbroken and Korra apologizing.
User avatar #44 to #11 - berengar (12/26/2015) [-]
The only complaint I had was it seems to happen a bit too quick, but then again, that could just be me. Also, I really don't like love triangles, but that's just personal opinion.
#33 to #11 - aizeinstein (12/26/2015) [-]
**aizeinstein used "*roll picture*"**
**aizeinstein rolled image** Recently re-watched the season 4 again. I was just happy for her when she started dating Asami. Not because it was an lgbt thing but because she was finally happy after all the **** she's been through.
User avatar #34 to #33 - scootabot ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
Definitely. I wasn't going for the lgbt **** . I just wish that people would just take things as they are, instead of trying to add stupid titles and other meanings onto it.

I saw the characters and I wanted them together. I'm glad they did. I was going to freak out if Mako got Korra back after all the **** he pulled.
User avatar #43 to #11 - franklyimaperson ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
It is also hard to directly compare them since all previous avatars, as far as I can tell, actual spoiler here have ceased to exist after Raava was killed briefly
#21 to #11 - ugoboom ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
Well said.

Though unfortunately, nothing beats the original series; it was just too perfect.
User avatar #22 to #21 - scootabot ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
I agree. The original can't be beaten, but both are good in their own ways.
User avatar #23 to #22 - ugoboom ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
i dunno, I felt korra series was a notch or two down, objectively

most of my issues pertain to s01 and s02
I was jarred as **** when I watched the first episode, just the drawing and animation style was way different, and IMO, worse, but that got fixed by the next season
And it's just too bad that season 2 sucked so hard. If it weren't for that "first avatar" story and the cool guy Varrik, I might have very well ragequit the series right then and there.

I'm glad they got their **** together with season 3 and 4, cause that universe is cool as **** and I'm glad we got more content in it. Overall, it did a good job complementing the genius of the original series and I'm glad it happened.
User avatar #45 to #23 - berengar (12/26/2015) [-]
Yeah, the first and second ones kind of sucked. But that's what happens when the powers upstairs decide that they need to have everything resolved in one season. Although Amon was a rather good villain.
User avatar #46 to #45 - ugoboom ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
Yeah Amon was indeed a kickass villain, but it's pretty clear there was a lot of lost potential with how that storyline played out.
User avatar #47 to #46 - berengar (12/26/2015) [-]
I completely agree. The first season somehow felt, padded but rushed. The last episode was just a "hooray everything randomly fixed itself." That and that stupid love triangle. If you like love triangles fine, but I personally hate most of them.
User avatar #48 to #47 - ugoboom ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
>That and that stupid love triangle
Avatar is not a series known for being good at romance.

In TLA, you had the kinda cute but still meh-tier aang/katara thing, and nobody ******* cares about any of the other ships
In LOK, it all ******* sucked. We see Mako/Korra type ships all the time IRL, and in IRL, those make sense. They don't, however, make for good TV. And I swear that they only added Bolin into the mix to pander to nice guy fedora types. When the show got WAY better overall in season 3 and 4, I really think the lack of romance plots was one of the major causes of that rise in quality. It's just not what we wanted out of that series.
User avatar #50 to #48 - berengar (12/26/2015) [-]
Yeah, I'd agree with that. I actually liked Bolin though. Maybe I'm just a sucker for the nice guy trope.
User avatar #51 to #50 - ugoboom ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
No, I mean Bolin was a cool guy and I liked him too, but the short lived romantic interest part was contrived as **** .
User avatar #53 to #51 - berengar (12/26/2015) [-]
Oh yeah, that it was. Another one of those, "whelp, time to forget that every happened."
#32 to #23 - efeye (12/26/2015) [-]
Well, they would have done a much better job on Korra if nickelodeon hadn't ****** them over all the time. Lower budgets, shorter deadlines, mid-season budget cuts, deliberately leaked episodes, and no foresight. Season one was ordered as a single season with a finished story arc. After that season, nick decided that they wanted another, something the creators hadn't planned on or built up to. Then nick decided they wanted two more seasons, which is why season 3 and 4 are the only ones that blend together at all (Kuvira being introduced in season 3, Zaheer helping Korra in season 4 etc.).
User avatar #42 to #32 - ugoboom ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
It's always the best shows that get totally ****** via executive ******** , ain't it? e.g. Futurama
#30 to #11 - kyoun (12/26/2015) [-]
It's been long while since I watched LoK, and while you bring up insightful points, I think you saw what you wanted to see for most of that argument.
User avatar #31 to #30 - scootabot ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
I absolutely adored the original series. I was heartbroken when it ended. When Legend of Korra came out, I thought they were just going to ride the popularity of the old series and just recycle plots and stuff like that. I wanted to hate it when I first saw it.

I just couldn't, though. It was rough, to get into, at first. I didn't enjoy it until somewhere in the middle of the first season. Ever since that, there were highs and lows, and I think there were more highs than lows.

While most of The Last Airbender was 90% highs, I think Korra had 85% highs. I was yelling at my screen sometimes when Korra was doing something stupid. It's great, on its own. If it's not compared to the original, I'd say it's a solid 8/10.

But if you put on the rose tinted goggles and try comparing the two, you'll always see the original as the better series.

I just think that on separate terms, LoK is great. Last Airbender was fantastic. One is a 9, the other an 8.

But yeah, I was really hoping that Asami and Korra would get together.
#13 to #11 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
you make a good thoughtful point but i still disagree with you korra just wasn't as good of a character or show as Aang and the original are
User avatar #14 to #13 - scootabot ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
That's subjective.

Just an opinion, but valued nonetheless. I enjoyed the original too, and I thought I'd hate Legend of Korra, but it was pretty good. Probably didn't live up to the hugeness that was the original, but it was good in its own right.
#39 to #11 - matralith ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
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I think most people complain because it was written badly and not something they should've ended the entire series with. For the first two books Korra and Asami barely interact with each other, then in book 3 they're suddenly best friend forever. Then after book 4 Bryke said that all their interactions were romantically tinted. What? I liked their initial scenes in book 3 because Korra finally got a female friend, which was a nice change of pace compared to the Bending Brothers. But since the book 4 finale pretty much all the scenes shared between them are seen by shippers as ''evidence'' that the two were in love the entire time, whereas a normal viewer would see it as a start of a proper friendship between them which wasn't all that present in the beginning.

Asami also has less personality than a piece of cardboard. She only really has her own storyline with her dad in book 1. In book 2 through 4 she only serves as a romantic partner for others while doing nothing worthwhile on her own. It devalues her character greatly. She will be remembered for being the girlfriend of the Avatar. How nice would it have been if she had a story of herself and develop more as an individual character?

Asami didn't help Korra through her difficult time on her own. Who was there with Korra to confront her fear of Zaheer? Not Asami. Who was there when Korra doubted she could take down Kuvira? Asami, but she couldn't help her properly so Tenzin had to show up and tell her she's a good avatar (I'm talking about the Remembrances episode btw). When Korra and Kuvira enter the Spirit World and the Krew is looking for her, which character does the camera focus on and is shown to worry the most? Mako, not Asami. On what relationship did the flashback episode focus? Mako and Korra, not Asami and Korra. And I can go on. Saying that Asami is the most important person in Korra's recovery simply isn't true.

Then the finale decides to end things with a scene people were so confused about that the creators actually had to confirm what they meant with it. This is a sign of bad writing. If you want to write a progressive story but you fail to bring is across the audience properly, either improve the story or don't write the story at all. And writing just for the sake of being progressive is bad writing. ''But they didn't get permission from Nickelodeon!'' Not true. They didn't even bother asking them because they thought Nick wouldn't like it. But later Nick stated that they would've supported the story.

It's now been more than a year since the finale and I'm still salty about it. Not because I hate the pairing or because I'm homophobic (though shippers do like to call you that if you say you don't like the ship). I don't like it because the pairing is badly written and it was a bad way to end the series forever. And now the comics apparently are going to focus on this pairing even more. It's like Bryke is going full on Korrasami and are just going to ignore the rest of their characters, which was already a bit apparent during book 4 (*cough* Bolin, Tenzin, Mako *cough*).

I like The Legend of Korra and their characters, but book 4 was in a lot of ways a let down and a lackluster way to say goodbye to Korra.
#40 - brothergrimm (12/26/2015) [-]
Somebody needs to get tested
#10 - fergin (12/26/2015) [-]
man.... korra was **** taken over by fan shipping and sjw nonsense. They'll never make an avatar as good as oldschool last airbender.
#24 - sacrilegious (12/26/2015) [-]
I watched Korra before TLA, and I think a lot of people's opinions are colored by nostalgia surrounding watching TLA growing up.

I liked Korra (yes, season 2 was weak and Korrasami wasn't fleshed out very well), and was honestly surprised at how little I liked TLA.
It was a good show: a good show for kids. How can a ten-year-old boy go from waking up from stasis to defeating a super-powered general in one-on-one combat in one, maybe two years? It just felt hollow to me, like the finale wasn't actually earned. Kids would like it, but objectively, from a narration stand point, it was not predicated on much.

Each element for Aang came super quick, even given his Avatarness. It was shown that other Avatars took years to master each element.

Was TLA storyline great? Yeah, and so was Katara and Sokka. Zuko? Eh. Iroh was fantastic though.
You saw Zuko's arc coming from a mile away. To me, his turn had no real emotional weight to it in the end.
His sister, though? Spot on, although they devolved rather quickly into PSYCHOTIC VILLAIN territory that didn't really suit her.

TLA was good, I enjoyed watching it, but not more than LK.

I found the animation in LK to be much more engaging, but that's to be said of any animation over a decade or so. While the progression of science was a bit unbelievable, although I get why they did it, the world felt more fleshed out to me. We see the depth of the world, rather than TLA's breadth, and I thought that improved it.

I enjoyed the changing perspectives, giving Korra at least some skill in Water, Earth, and Fire (when she was very little), and just struggling with the last one, as opposed to Aang, like I mentioned before). Plus, a 20-year-old superpowered girl is more interesting a 10-year-old character who has no arc (seriously, Aang is a goofy boy the whole series.) I thought highly of the weight placed on Korra's shoulders. Also, dem titties. It was done better than Aangs to-the-camera monologues.

Mako was a little useless, and Bolin was kinda shaky to start off with. Amon was a brilliant villain, wish he had stuck around. Season 2 was good, up until the finale. Kinda dumb. Hardly even remember season 3.

Season 4 was, like S2, great up until the end, all though I was a little unsure of Kuvira's motivations. But the giant walker? Hokey. Was Korrasami believable? Eh... But I'll take it over the other pairings.

Both were good shows, in different ways. Maybe I'd like TLA more if I watched it growing up. But, I'd rather rewatch Korra (esp. S1 and S4) anyday.
#28 to #24 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
I disagree. Korra was **** .
User avatar #56 to #24 - ronyx (12/26/2015) [-]
The Avatar state is OP as **** . Aang didn't need to master any elements, but he did needed to control the Avatar state. They mistakenly thought that Ang would be able to beat the fire lord by mastering all elements, but all he needed was to learn to control the avatar state.
#29 to #24 - mykol (12/26/2015) [-]
Interesting viewpoint. Personally I dont think I'd have watched TLA at all if I started with korra. I was in high school when I watched tla so i don't think the kid thing is relevant with me. I agree with everything you say is bad about tla but I liked the show in spite of all that. To me Aang was a better character than korra even without any character progression.

You say every element came super quick to aang but korra learned everything much younger than aang except for air, and thats only because there were no airbenders around.

The first season of LOK was the only one that had a chance in my eyes. If they'd given it like 24 episodes and fleshed out the characters more it would have probably been good. But all we really got was Bolin who was a worse version of sokka, and korra who I felt was just completely unlikable as a character. The rest of the characters I felt like didn't get much or were too bland to care about. Oh Amon was a good character too. But the way he lost the fight to korra i felt like was just as unbelievable as aang beating the fire lord in two months. Korra just magically gets air bending powers mid fight? Is strong enough to beat amon with them? Amons weird blood bending chakra block attack conveniently only works on bending you have knowledge of? This was the main villain of the show, and in my opinion well above anyone else in the series, even if she was able to airbend out of nowhere, he had the reaction time to not even get hit for most of the show and now all of a sudden he is easily bested? Jeez, at least aang was using crazy super powers in his fight with ozai.

On top of that I prefer the world of legend of aang much more. The bending was way more spectacular in TLA, whereas in LOK benders were getting whooped by normies, and also there was a sense of adventure and unknown I felt.

Overall, I just felt like TLA had better characters, plot, atmosphere, and was more realistic (which makes it easier to get immersed in).

#62 to #29 - sacrilegious (12/26/2015) [-]
She was like 17 or so, right, and had been training all her life, which I think accounts for that.
She could make some tiny things hover as a kid, I don't think that really counts.

Fair point about beating Amon, but the chakra blocking only working on stuff you know already makes perfect sense to me.

I'll give TLA the characters and the start of the plot, but Korra the execution of the Amon and Kuvira arcs, as well as the atmosphere and realism (as far as that goes).
User avatar #36 to #24 - zenler ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
hmm random comment ramble ahead in response to yours, just my opinion etc c;


Aang only was able to defeat Ozai with the Avatar state, he was majorly outclassed beforehand. He was gettin' molested hard by the sheer might of Ozai's super heated cock

Also Aang was already an airbending master so perhaps he had the discipline to learn the other elements so quickly. Its not like he was a master in any other element than air tho lol. Having op as **** teachers helped a lot too.


Azula's progression to 'psychotic villain' would be natural for her situation of being raised by a man like Ozai/old granny ***** and then the betrayal of Mai/Ty Lee. Prob out of place for a kids show



chyeah the depth of TLA was almost non existent, 10,000~ years is a huge amount of time for civlisation to be still you know, be at that stage.


My major gripe with Korra was the major pacing issues but still solid for what it was I remember. Also the lightning proliferation wasn't cool either.
#63 to #36 - sacrilegious (12/26/2015) [-]
That's true, I forgot about the Avatar state. Still not much better though.
After four years of working to learn the elements, they pull a pretty weak deus ex machina at the end. Not only does that make 80% of the show pointless, it's possibly even worse than just learning the four elements.
User avatar #65 to #63 - zenler ONLINE (12/27/2015) [-]
yea i agree the ending was dumb, so many things were dumb heh

but still perhaps aang keeping to his beliefs is a good thing of the battle lols. I doubt he wouldn't have killed ozai without the journey he took.

anywho I think you'd have a cracker with this read www.fanfiction.net/s/7027181/1/What-SHOULD-have-Happened-in-AtLA
User avatar #8 - civilizedwasteland (12/26/2015) [-]
whats even the point of that?
#37 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
Which makes the dynamic of the new Team Avatar pretty ****** up. How they're still friends after all that relationship ******** is the biggest miracle this show has produced.
#38 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
yeah and i hated it ******* ************ wanting to **** everything is sight or sth i really can't stand lovestory **** since it's an exact copy 99% of time and there could be much more interesting stuff to be spend time on
User avatar #52 - okamibanshu (12/26/2015) [-]
Lier, you never dated bolin.
User avatar #57 to #52 - malinko ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
actually she did go on a date with Bolin.
User avatar #58 to #57 - okamibanshu (12/26/2015) [-]
no, he thought it was a date, but she didn't. Doesn't count unless both know its a date
User avatar #60 to #58 - malinko ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
Actually she did know it was a date. though the condition of her agreement might be shady, she clearly knew Bolin's intentions and knew it was a date.

" As she moves to leave the locker room, she is halted by Bolin, who invites her to go on a "sort of date situation" with him. She initially declines, stating she does not feel really date-worthy, something he immediately refutes by claiming that she is the "smartest, funniest, toughest, buffest, talentedest, incrediblest girl in the world". Flattered,** Korra accepts his offer**, seeking to have some fun.

avatar.wikia.com/wiki/The_Spirit_of_Competition

go rewatch the episode if you still disagree.
User avatar #67 to #60 - okamibanshu (12/27/2015) [-]
Hmm, guess i'll go watch it again, i don't remember that. Cool
#49 - EmulateSnes ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
*Shipped...
User avatar #18 - nanako ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
And toph starred in porn involving everyone in both eras of the franchise
User avatar #35 to #18 - rodiganschmidt (12/26/2015) [-]
sauce?
User avatar #64 to #35 - nanako ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
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and pretty much every other hentai site in existence
User avatar #66 to #64 - rodiganschmidt (12/27/2015) [-]
Oh, fair enough. for some reason I thought you meant live-action
#12 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
avatar korra was god awful garbage its far to angsty. i mean she is the ******* avatar but all she ever did was bitch about how hard everything was and half the time it was to people with harsh back story
#16 to #12 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
They didn't give it a chance to develop properly, nor did they do much with the characters, but what did they expect with 12 episode seasons? The Last Airbender had 4 seasons to develop the characters, create the love stories and build characters. Zuko honestly was the best part of that series because of the transformation he went through, but they gave it time. The seasons had small time villains that could be one and done, they couldn't do that with Korra in the time restraint.

I'm just saying, Korra had potential but it was stifened by their short seasons and weak writing
#61 - volksunion (12/26/2015) [-]
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User avatar #59 - malinko ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
I wanted to like LOK so bad. But it was too short, it felt like no actual time passed in the show. just from one big bad guy to the next with stupid teen drama and random dating I wont say love story, because none of it felt anywhere close to a "love" story

Korra's character didn't make a lot of sense. She came from what seems like a loving, caring family, yeah she had to go through avatar training, but to be honest i felt like that would have helped her have more of a calmer demeanor, but i dont know for sure, they didn't show a lot of the training aside from tenzin's.

She just seemed like a character with a big ego and something to prove, and I don't really like that in characters, and to make it worse, once she realized she wasn't as bad ass as she thought, and **** is rough, she turned into a crybaby bitch and lashed out at her friends when she got frustrated.
As well, she never really seemed to take the time to try and look at things from someone else's point of view, it was always "this is what I want and if you dont agree then **** you" and that's just not a good trait to maintain healthy friendships.

all in all, I just didn't like Korra's character, the story seemed rushed and too much we had to be told instead of shown.

I also felt there was too much real world agenda being pushed. Not saying I don't mind that, but when you put too much of it into a tv show it feels more like propaganda rather than content.

just my opinion, not going to say if its a good or bad show, thats up to you. but if i had to choose one to rewatch it would be TLA.
User avatar #26 - pyjamadog (12/26/2015) [-]
double standarts ?
just kidding. everyone would love it if zuko were to **** everyone. and he did. on a mental level.
User avatar #19 - secondfunction (12/26/2015) [-]
Does that mean she dated herself?
User avatar #17 - ghostisaho (12/26/2015) [-]
and you are the most annoying avatar ever.
#9 - jacues (12/26/2015) [-]
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