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i was re-watching the final agni-kai between zuko and azula and i noticed something

throughout the entire match, zuko and azula are throwing straightforward, linear attacks at one another


and they deflect with the same kind of movement



but then when zuko does his firespin breakdance thing, its in no way linear, its completely circular



up until that point, theyd been doing classical firebending movements, but this one isnt really seen in firebending. but it IS seen in airbending



point is, zuko was learning from aang at the same time aang was learning from zuko

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User avatar #7 - egosumproxi (09/18/2015) [-]
That agni-kai is one of the best scenes out of the entire series.
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User avatar #82 to #7 - fornowjr (09/18/2015) [-]
Agreed. Still get chills from it.
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User avatar #148 to #82 - misterusername ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
I like your profile pic
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User avatar #25 to #7 - thejammer (09/18/2015) [-]
Honestly I think the best was when Zuko redirected the lightning from Ozai.
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User avatar #24 to #7 - jacencaedus (09/18/2015) [-]
makes you wonder how bad shamalans gonna **** it up
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User avatar #44 to #24 - StewieGGriffin (09/18/2015) [-]
Yah lets just hope he never makes a movie about avatar.
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User avatar #83 to #48 - nexuslament (09/18/2015) [-]
He hasn't even made the first one yet what the **** is he doing
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User avatar #126 to #83 - makethingsworse (09/19/2015) [-]
The only Avatar movie that my brain recognizes is that one by James Cameron.
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#79 to #48 - foxdragon ONLINE (09/18/2015) [-]
God has forsaken us
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#74 to #48 - anon (09/18/2015) [-]
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User avatar #64 to #48 - mrwalkerfour ONLINE (09/18/2015) [-]
yeah that arguement's ********

avatar was enjoyable for all ages, and so the movies should have been too. lord of the rings for example is proof that kids books can become great multi generational films

if in his words the cartoon was made for 9 years olds...why change the cartoon??? if the cartoon itself is already set up for that audience then he should just copy it exactly in live action, no changes to the lore of the avatar world.

he has no excuse for the changing of ethnicity. making the protagonists white as **** , and the bad guys mmiddle eastern? in the cartoon theyre all oriental asians of some kind, why change that. thats like making frodo canadian
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User avatar #73 to #64 - teseus (09/18/2015) [-]
**** man, I don't know. I've read the article some time ago because somebody posted it here. I'm not a fan of turning animated series into live action movies, so even if it turns out he's actually doing the movie and this time turns great, I still wouldn't watch it.

On a small side note, I want to correct you on the LoTR part. It was never a book meant for children, that was The Hobbit. Tolkien was a linguist and he created fictional languages for elves and then built a world inspired by English and Scandinavian folklore for those languages. Also, writing LoTR was therapeutic because it helped him get past the good friends he lost in the war.
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User avatar #67 to #64 - hydraetis (09/18/2015) [-]
Yea the racial thing was super retarded. If he had to inject Indians somewhere, he could have at least set them as the Earth Kingdom. That would have made at least a little more sense then forcing them in as what is CLEARLY supposed to be Japan.

And then of course for Katara and Zuko, should have been some kind of tanned ethnicity.
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User avatar #70 to #67 - mrwalkerfour ONLINE (09/18/2015) [-]
the fire nation was japan

earth nation is china

air nomads are the buddhist monks who do not really own land rather they occupy monestaries

water nation were inuits who occupy the colder regions in small tribes


id forgive not making the water tribe inuits because howmany inuit related actors are there...but theres lots of american/japanese guys and the same with chinese and frankly any oriental with a shaved head and robes can look buddhist.

and he even ****** the ethnicity up on a second level, look at zukos family.
zuko is played by an indian, but his uncle looks turkish. his sister is practically eurasian and his dads egyptian/ what the **** happened there???
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User avatar #72 to #70 - hydraetis (09/18/2015) [-]
I know Earth Nation is China, but there are enough similarities that it wouldn't be too blasphemous to show them as Indian. I myself thought that the Earth Kingdom was like some kind of India + China hybrid when I first watched the series.

But for the Water tribe, I feel like they could have easily found some polynesians to fill in the main parts. Or at least just give the actor a spray tan for makeup
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User avatar #75 to #72 - mrwalkerfour ONLINE (09/18/2015) [-]
and got some better actors, im not an actor and i think i could play katara better, and im a ******* guy.
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User avatar #76 to #75 - hydraetis (09/18/2015) [-]
That is also true. Sokka was nowhere near sarcastic enough.
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User avatar #78 to #76 - mrwalkerfour ONLINE (09/18/2015) [-]
i dont understand how that actor has made a career at all, ever part he plays is just so bad, theres gotta be thousands of unknown young actors who are way better than him yet he gets the parts...how...his agent must be a damn god
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User avatar #124 to #70 - toaofmemory (09/19/2015) [-]
Earth Nation was Korea. Had Korean names.
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User avatar #153 to #124 - mrwalkerfour ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
the largest nation, mainland, had chinese stylings and had a class system which ended at the highest post of emporer, much like the old chinese system, had a "forbidden city" like inner circle for the emporer

it was china
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User avatar #109 to #64 - myrtille ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
The only white person was the girl who played Katara if I remember correctly.
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User avatar #154 to #109 - mrwalkerfour ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
the **** actor who pays her brother sokka and the background actors who played the water tribesmen are also white in the film, including their grandma

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User avatar #155 to #154 - myrtille ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
Oh, well I guess he somehow interpreted dark skinned inuit people as white people
Makes sense
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#63 to #48 - anon (09/18/2015) [-]
lol no he isn't. The studios wouldn't allow it. They only made back twice it's $150 million budget and **** was buried into the ground by haters. He wants to do it, but there's no way it's going to happen.
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User avatar #71 to #44 - deescalation (09/18/2015) [-]
Didn't he al...ready....no....my head hurts....what were we talking about?
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User avatar #127 to #24 - mintyfreshmenthol (09/19/2015) [-]
ya guy the needs a good smack
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User avatar #42 to #7 - rockmanfan (09/18/2015) [-]
the last 3 episodes are the best in the series. ******* fantastic finale.
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User avatar #61 to #42 - cisdroidcommander (09/18/2015) [-]
its a great final for a great series. Still cant believe some people were disappointed with it,
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#58 to #7 - dbBlues (09/18/2015) [-]
I feel you man. Excluding the main theme and its variants, I feel like the soundtrack from that fight is one of the most iconic songs of the series.
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#112 to #58 - cannibalvegan ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
Chills, ****** .
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User avatar #134 to #112 - missingthemoontoo (09/19/2015) [-]
THis.
Same.

Goddamn that fight.
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User avatar #128 to #58 - shuttletree (09/19/2015) [-]
What was it called?

the song name...
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User avatar #152 to #128 - dbBlues (09/19/2015) [-]
The last Agni Kai
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User avatar #8 to #7 - Virt (09/18/2015) [-]
that agni kai was one of the best scenes in any series
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#1 - evilhomer ONLINE (09/18/2015) [-]
When you nail that dance move you were trying to learn
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#17 to #1 - anon (09/18/2015) [-]
Zuko's voice actor was also a breakdancer, so yeah, that's actually why Zuko does moves like that.
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#52 to #17 - cookiedude (09/18/2015) [-]
That is not why Zuko "does moves like that."

If you have ever watched the original show, you'd know that the show's creators and animators took into account the very smallest of details. They based each bending form's "moves" on actual real life martial arts.

As the OP says, Zuko, a firebender, took his uncle's advice and observed the other bending forms. Thus, he used an airbending technique on his sister in the final agni kai duel of the show.
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User avatar #57 to #52 - ArcaciaStrain (09/18/2015) [-]
No but anon is right, Dante Basco is a break dancer and he offered one of his moves (shown above, called a flare) to be used. No real reason for it, they just thought it'd be fun to include I presume
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User avatar #121 to #57 - killerliquid (09/19/2015) [-]
I mean, the move is a windmill but there's something flarin' up
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User avatar #157 to #121 - ArcaciaStrain (09/19/2015) [-]
Oh right, flares are on your hands. It seemed more likely to have been the chosen move
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User avatar #158 to #157 - killerliquid (09/19/2015) [-]
Honestly not sure why they didn't go with the flare like bruh
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User avatar #129 to #121 - seventhmark (09/19/2015) [-]
That is definitely not a windmill. That's straight footwork, no clue what it is though.
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User avatar #9 to #1 - logicstrike ONLINE (09/18/2015) [-]
at the same time you drop your mixtape
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#49 - anon (09/18/2015) [-]
when you free style and nail the whole verse
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#2 - denniswilles (09/18/2015) [-]
Perhaps it's just the breakdancing dragon
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User avatar #34 to #2 - squaretree ONLINE (09/18/2015) [-]
Actually that seems more accurate. If I remember right, that form of firebending was fairly similar to airbending in that it was more flowing and less direct.
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User avatar #66 to #34 - mrwalkerfour ONLINE (09/18/2015) [-]
you are correct. the original fire benders focused more on self mastery, much like airbenders, and their bending was very delicate and balanced, relying on flowing movements.

but later due to war and conquest they adopted more direct pwoerful styles of bending, which became the common practice of all fire benders, the old ways being forgotten to the world as a whole.

but this new style wasnt as strong, as it did not give the bender strength rather it compensated for their weakness
by learning the old ways, zuko became strong in himself, and because of that, he truly mastered fire beyond what his peers could hope to attain, their very limited style of aggressive fire bending simply cant match the original bending technique.

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User avatar #18 - tradontor (09/18/2015) [-]
Zuko was learning from his uncle, they practice arts from all four of the elements to add to a balanced bending.
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#3 - matralith (09/18/2015) [-]
Firebending is so ******* sexy
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User avatar #38 to #3 - xwattsti ONLINE (09/18/2015) [-]
It's so ******* HOT!
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User avatar #11 - ILIEKPEPSEE (09/18/2015) [-]
And Zuko was standing stark still while Azula jetted around him in the beginning. That kind of stability is what you see in earthbending. The lightning redirection coming from waterbending has already been mentioned as well. Zuko learned from all 4 styles of bending and incorporated it into his own.
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#31 to #11 - anon (09/18/2015) [-]
Yep zuko while not gifted like his sister was incredibly skilled and never stopped learning unlike Azula who was content to bask in her own "greatness".
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User avatar #87 to #31 - jalauren (09/19/2015) [-]
No, Azula practiced all the time. Don't you remember her firebending teachers? They told her that her technique was near perfect and she replied with something along the lines of "near perfect isn't good enough"
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User avatar #125 to #87 - fuckscreennames (09/19/2015) [-]
i think more of what he was going for was that while Azula simply tried to improve her existing skills, Zuko was constantly trying to improve the arts/techniques themselves instead of just his own adeptness in them
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User avatar #130 to #125 - seventhmark (09/19/2015) [-]
I don't think that's what he was going for, but yes, you're right.
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#69 - rowdeemunkee (09/18/2015) [-]
MRW it ended
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#115 to #69 - cannibalvegan ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
Just rewatch it then. I've watched the show like 5 times, not including all the random re runs I've seen. I might rewatch again soon.

The opposite of MFW watching this show.
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User avatar #41 - captainprincess (09/18/2015) [-]
Well I mean

The linear firebending stuff is military style right
I mean for a long time, the fire nation has been a military state

But zuko had just recently re-learned firebending from the dragons that power it in the first place
he was reverting to firebending's more natural technique

Could be that natural techniques blend with oneanother since they're, y'know, natural
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#118 - theblackhorntail ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
He did that move in episode 4 bruh. Zuko pulls off breakdancing moves similar to Dante Basco (his voice actor) IIRC.
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User avatar #142 to #118 - xxxlkxxx (09/19/2015) [-]
He did something similar when he first fought Zhao too.
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#103 - jibbablabba (09/19/2015) [-]
reasons why Last Airbender is better than Korra
-better character development
-every character is likable in their own way
-each character brings something new to the table
-explores the metaphysical in a more fantastic way learning new ways to bend by learning other bending. like fire and air, just like Zuko did.
-bending styles when mixed have a chance to create something brand new like air and water making ice/snow
-better pacing
-explored the more personal struggles of everyone
what did Korra give us?
-an avatar dealing with high school drama ermergerd which boy likes me?
-really mundane plot then again they had nothing else to work with
-implication of lesbians
the only good thing i honestly think Korra did was go into the backstory of why the avatar exists in the first place, that **** was interesting and actually made Korra feel like a successor to Last Airbender. literally if that was the only season and they paced all the relationship BS i would feel that Korra would be way better.
since that didn't happen, i'll just keep rewatching Last Airbender because it's actually entertaining.
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User avatar #135 to #103 - leonhardt (09/19/2015) [-]
Reminder that Korra was originally meant to be a 1 season miniseries
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User avatar #107 to #103 - epicalania (09/19/2015) [-]
I liked Korra in its own right, but as a sequel to Atla I think it was pretty mundane.
They took the world and tried to relate it to an audience rather than keeping what made it so good, which is what stuffed up a whole lot of series'.
I'd have liked something to go on with Avatar Wan, maybe a longer version of his story, or maybe even a thing where each episode had a bit of a story from some avatar from the past.
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#159 to #107 - dzimo (09/21/2015) [-]
its kinda sad aint it? best episode from whole korra was about different avatar.
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User avatar #120 to #103 - rdangerdash (09/19/2015) [-]
I've put a lot of thought into it and at this point I'm pretty sure Korra is objectively **** .
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#145 to #103 - kinginthenorth (09/19/2015) [-]
The best thing out of the show is still the ******* of porn.
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#104 to #103 - thesimonved (09/19/2015) [-]
Korra was good, imo, but was there even a fight? ALA is one of the best animated series of all time, so there's now way LOK would come very close
Korra was good, imo, but was there even a fight? ALA is one of the best animated series of all time, so there's now way LOK would come very close
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#105 to #104 - jibbablabba (09/19/2015) [-]
well after ALA i was expecting something equal to or greater than, especially considering the same guys were doing it.
All i seemed to get from it was, flashy animation the original had a nice comfy look to it with flashy fights and shoehorned plot devices.
honestly it was the pacing, ALA had god tier pacing. They didn't resort to filler that much, and whenever they did it ended with a huge life lesson being learned. Sokka getting his sword and learning he isn't useless just because he can't bend was one of my faves.
but back to my point, they didn't rush ALA, and made sure to stay on track, and if they ever went away from the track they at least made it important to the rest of the series.
Korra "we only planned one season because we just want to leave the rest to our fans imagination" so they rushed the **** out of that plot. too much happened too fast.
then Nick was all "nah fam, i like money, that's why Fairly Odd and Spongebob are still around"
honestly, the season about the avatar backstory was the only one i found tolerable, it actually felt less rushed, like they had this in their minds the whole time and already had the pacing down for it.
Korra would have been better if they had paced it a little better at the beginning.
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User avatar #108 to #105 - thesimonved (09/19/2015) [-]
Considering Korra pushed all my right buttons... **** this sounds weird, I can't really say I was that much disappointed. It was still a pretty okay story and superior animation series overall. Still ALA is something to remember
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User avatar #137 to #105 - leonhardt (09/19/2015) [-]
>Something equal to or greater than

Reminder that Legend of Korra was meant to be a 1-season miniseries
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#10 - portugueseguy (09/18/2015) [-]
If you remember well lightning redirection was something Iroh learned from waterbender, so it would surprise me if zuko learend from an airbender.
I myself ahve though other possible techniques. Ice bending, praticed by waterbenders with eartbending techniques for example.
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User avatar #15 to #10 - talonhalfstar (09/18/2015) [-]
Wow I didn't know that, thanks
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#100 - dragonofhate (09/19/2015) [-]
Zuko learned from his uncle Iroh that you can use moves from other benders of other elements and possibly make a new and even more creative moves. Remember Iroh looked at the Water Benders and learned how to redirect lightning.
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#119 - maxifrost (09/19/2015) [-]
Comment Picture
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User avatar #143 to #119 - Waldowitharedhat (09/19/2015) [-]
thank you

I needed to forget that
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User avatar #45 - mcstorms (09/18/2015) [-]
I wouldn't be shocked I mean iroh taught him to learn from all styles.
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User avatar #88 - pikachustolemybike (09/19/2015) [-]
They could both bend my mixtape
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#39 - anon (09/18/2015) [-]
Interesting theory, but Zuko's agni kai with Zhao invalidates it. Zuko's firebending style has always been a little different than the rigid militaristic style of most of the other firebenders. The reason is because Zuko's voice actor, Dante Basco, is himself a break dancer, so they incorporated a bit of that into Zuko's fighting style.

The more militaristic style shows through fairly often though, since that's how he learned as a child.
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User avatar #113 - cannibalvegan ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
Best show of all time, I don't care what anybody says.
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User avatar #65 - catkyte ONLINE (09/18/2015) [-]
great... now i have to rewatch this entire show, op you dick. thanks
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User avatar #5 - kewkiez (09/18/2015) [-]
Actually, Zuko's voice actor is a breakdancer irl and the producers from the show thought it would be cool to add some of his breakdancing moves into the show which is why his moves are all circular instead of linear.
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