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User avatar #14 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/27/2012) [-]
Debatable. Aang had a bunch of friends and three nations to back him up. Sozin had to fight his best friend, and even when he had the chance to kill him he didn't do it. He paid the ultimate price when he was betrayed by his best friend and died trying to save his village from a volcano eruption, when he could have just taken his wife and gotten out.
User avatar #41 to #14 - duile (05/28/2012) [-]
Aang fought a Volcano too But saved a whole village by him self when he could have just taken his friends and flied out.
User avatar #89 to #41 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/28/2012) [-]
I'm pretty sure that wasn't the same. He saved one village; Roku saved an entire island. Besides that, if you noticed, the volcano on Roku's island was significantly larger.

And Aang had time to prepare, he even got all of the earth benders in the village to help him dig trenches before hand. Roku just woke up to the smell of ash, went "WTF!?" And went up there to make that volcano his bitch.
User avatar #91 to #89 - duile (05/28/2012) [-]
an entire island that had one village, and he didn't even pay attention the the other side of the mountain not, (sure about the size of the volcanoes)

the earth benders did built trenches but that did shit, and Roku had help to form Fire Lord Sozin.
User avatar #94 to #91 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/29/2012) [-]
....And was killed five seconds later. There is a big difference between having hours of help in advance, and getting fifteen minutes of help while the disaster is already occurring and then being betrayed and killed.
User avatar #95 to #94 - duile (05/29/2012) [-]
hours of help? do you know how much time they wasted
1. grouping all the villagers to telling about the volcano (which no one believed at first)
2. wasting time trying to get the fortune tellers book (with out nobody seeing)
3. Making the clouds (while flying a bison in the air standing up with out anybody seeing, not something you master in a few minutes)
4, grouping the villagers again to tell them about the volcano
5. getting everybody organized and out of the way
yea hours of help

And Aang didn't even know fire-bendering yet

User avatar #96 to #95 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/29/2012) [-]
Err, if I recall ,it took about five seconds of dialogue for him to go "Earthebenders come over here! If you aren't an earthbender, get the heck out!"

That doesn't take much time.

Besides that, steeling the fortune tellers book probably took a few minutes at best. We saw the entire seen. Making the clouds I have no clue on the time constraint, but neither do you.

Lastly, they still did have hours of help, that we can know as a definite truth, because we saw the gigantic trenches that they formed, which, even with earthbenders, would have taken hours to make because no one there was a master.
If someone were, we probably would have seen them make the whole trench with one big move or something.


Aang still had airbending, which let him rapidly cool the rock, something Roku couldn't do simply because there was too much lava. No matter how you slice it, Aang still had a whole village of back-up, and Roku still nearly stopped the volcano all on his own.
User avatar #97 to #96 - duile (05/29/2012) [-]
every thing at the 3 paragraph i can kinda understand

but a again the trenches did nothing to help so all though hours wasted (so no need to bring them up.....again)

and no matter how you look at it Roku had : more elements, and more experience.
and Roku could have done the same as Aang no matter how much lava there was
User avatar #98 to #97 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/29/2012) [-]
Alright, first off, Please, learn to type properly, I was trying to keep quiet about it but you are killing me now.

You can't possibly say the trenches did nothing because the lava had to fill them entirely before it could keep flowing, so it did help a lot, because it gave him time and the more lava that filled it is that much more that wasn't flowing to the village.

You obviously don't understand even the basics of physics, but to put it simply, more lava means more work. By your logic, it would be just as easy to stop an ocean of lava as it would a glassful of it, and that makes no sense at all.
User avatar #99 to #98 - duile (05/29/2012) [-]
sorry for the bad typing

Yea but the trenches also made it worse in a way

yes more lava equals work but look at all the things Roku had that Aang didn't
And that's not my logic that's how you interpreted it
User avatar #102 to #99 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/29/2012) [-]
No, actually, that is the exact logic that you used. "No matter how much lava there was" That was your logic.

The trenches didn't make it worse in any way at all, and now you are just grasping at straws.

Look at all the things Aang had that Roku didn't.
User avatar #103 to #102 - duile (05/30/2012) [-]
You can not tell a person's logic by one sentence or statement, that like study one line form Edison. Newton, or Einstein then claim you know there entire logic.

It made it spread out across the rim of the entire town before it was going straight
down.

what a few hours instead of seconds beside that what else because Roku also had a trench and a longer one in fact than Aang, he had help no matter how long
User avatar #105 to #103 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/30/2012) [-]
......Now you are sounding really dense. A person's 'logic' is not one item that can be categorized and decided on. The logic you are using in this statement can be interpreted in a way because it matches the logic that you are using.

He made the trench himself; not to mention, aang didn't have to worry about STOPPING the lava flow, or even the volcanic gasses erupting. He just had to deal with the lava, because the gasses all flew upwards.
User avatar #106 to #105 - duile (05/31/2012) [-]
i know he made the trench himself i never said he didn't
What do you mean he didn't have to stop the lava flow
he stop the lava wouldn't it stop it's flowing
User avatar #107 to #106 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/31/2012) [-]
If you saw the episode, he just diverts it. Roku stops it.
#108 to #107 - duile (05/31/2012) [-]
Nope Roku doesn't stop it, he diverts. You should watch the episode
User avatar #38 to #14 - kingrayne ONLINE (05/28/2012) [-]
He thought he could stop the lava flows because he could lavabend.
User avatar #39 to #38 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/28/2012) [-]
Never said he didn't think that. I said he 'died trying to save his village' never once did I say he doubted himself.
#15 to #14 - N. Korean citizen (05/27/2012) [-]
don't you mean roku
User avatar #16 to #15 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/27/2012) [-]
Yes, my bad. Roku.
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