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#106 - azraelthemage ONLINE (07/05/2013) [-]
There are also a few things wrong with this post.   
   
1) Frodo's parents were never said to be dead or living. In the book, it is only mentioned that Bilbo chose him to be his heir. Nothing more, nothing less.   
2) The One Ring is not a helpful force. Use of it does more harm than good considering how it reveals the user's location to Sauron and his forces, and even allows the Nazgul to see the use much easier due to the wearer being pulled into the wraith world (hence why he is invisible).   
3) A lighsaber is technology. Not magic or supernatural in any way. Unless, this post is referring to The Force. In that case, it's understandable.   
4) Ozai wanted to destroy the world by the end of the series rather than rule it. Sure, he stated he'd rule the new kingdom that'd be built upon the ashes, but still destroying the world none the less.   
5) Gollum didn't seek redemption. Redemption suggests that he did something evil, and regretted it. Gollum, however, sought to please Frodo because he held the Ring...until he decided to kill him and take the Ring for himself.
There are also a few things wrong with this post.

1) Frodo's parents were never said to be dead or living. In the book, it is only mentioned that Bilbo chose him to be his heir. Nothing more, nothing less.
2) The One Ring is not a helpful force. Use of it does more harm than good considering how it reveals the user's location to Sauron and his forces, and even allows the Nazgul to see the use much easier due to the wearer being pulled into the wraith world (hence why he is invisible).
3) A lighsaber is technology. Not magic or supernatural in any way. Unless, this post is referring to The Force. In that case, it's understandable.
4) Ozai wanted to destroy the world by the end of the series rather than rule it. Sure, he stated he'd rule the new kingdom that'd be built upon the ashes, but still destroying the world none the less.
5) Gollum didn't seek redemption. Redemption suggests that he did something evil, and regretted it. Gollum, however, sought to please Frodo because he held the Ring...until he decided to kill him and take the Ring for himself.
User avatar #164 to #106 - mykoira (07/05/2013) [-]
1. Frodo was only twelve years old, his parents drowned in a boating accident
2. the ring saved his life once when boromir atacked him
3. i think he was redering the force
5. Gollum didn't but sm├ęgol did
#137 to #106 - shutterpost (07/05/2013) [-]
I can 'help' someone off a cliff, but it doesn't mean I'm being'helpful'. Js, bro.
User avatar #133 to #106 - anotherhaloguy (07/05/2013) [-]
I disagree with you on one point, didn't it say at the start of the LotR, that Frodo's parents drowned in a river whilst on a boat trip, and other hobbits speculated how they had died about murder and things like that....
I read the start of the book today in English
User avatar #131 to #106 - demonicchimera (07/05/2013) [-]
I swear in one book, maybe one of the non-LOTR ones, it mentions that Frodo's parents drowned in the Brandywine River?
User avatar #135 to #131 - anotherhaloguy (07/05/2013) [-]
You had to put this just as I was saying it didn't you?
#116 to #106 - subaqueousreach (07/05/2013) [-]
1)He never said the parents were dead, simply that they were removed from the tale.
2)Use of the ring does have it's downsides, but it still helped him in several situations. Orcs, Urukai, goblins, and humans can't see him regardless of whether or not Sauron and the Nazgul can and even then they were easily fooled into thinking Pippin had it.
3)I'm pretty sure OP was implying The Force when he showed the lightsaber, since there isn't a universal symbol for the force that everyone can recognize.
4)Whether he blows it up first or not, he still wants to rule the world.
5)At one point Gollum, remembering the name Smeagle, wanted redemption from the evil the ring bestowed on him and even manages to temporarily free himself from it.
User avatar #113 to #106 - violentpixi (07/05/2013) [-]
Smeagol did murder his best friend, leading him to become Gollum. With Frodo, he was attempting to seek redemption for a short while in Two Towers, by letting the Smeagol split personality take over and help Frodo - until Gollum corrupted him again.
User avatar #117 to #113 - azraelthemage ONLINE (07/05/2013) [-]
But why would he want redemption for something that happened centuries prior to the story of which, to Gollum's knowledge, Frodo didn't know about?
User avatar #120 to #117 - violentpixi (07/05/2013) [-]
Frodo was the only person who believed Smeagol still had some good in him, leading Smeagol to emerge and take control for the first time in centuries. Gollum never wanted redemption, but Smeagol did, personal redemption. For example when Gollum calls Smeagol a murderer and Smeagol cries in the films.
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