fundie dislikes marvel's gay character

actually, there is one "argument" if you want to call it that

buttsecks has a much, much MUCH larger chance of spreading disease. Other then that, there are no other justifications of why homosexual unions should be illegal

go gay marriage, leaves more women for me :3

There is straight couples that practice anal sex.Does that means we are banning straight marriage in cases of buttsex?I don't think so.

that is why anal sex is such an ignorant and stupid justification against gay marriage!
our wonderful governer of texas, RICK MOTHERFUCKING PERRY, tried to use that justification.

unless they're lesbians

After the spread of AIDS in the gay community a lot of them have woken up and started using protection. But the spread was mostly due to drug use in the "club scene" of the gays. You don't think to use protection when you're high off your mind. But that's also gotten better too. While yes it's a dirty hole to go into, that doesn't give any argument against lesbians either or homosexual couples were one has undergone the surgery to have a vagina.

But honestly, that IS the best argument I've heard. Which is sad really. But I mean with heterosexual sex you KNOW what you're getting into, wrap up, use protection against STDS and pregnancies. So you have to just assume that the gay community is as well knowledgeable enough to use the same protection for themselves.

still, that is the argument that many opponents of gay marriage are using as their "scientific" justification, which is truly laughable.

Anal sex doesn't have a higher chance of spreading disease. Not using a condom does. Gay sex has no chance of pregnancy, therefor people are less likely to use a condom. You point is flawed as heterosexual sex doesn't directly involve the use of protection and therefor is at the same level of risk as gay sex.

I don't mean to sound like an arse, but I've done my studies for many of my psychology classes and I've found disturbing things. Don't think I'm against it though.

http://www.apa . org/monitor/feb02/newdata.aspx

The majority of those mental health issues are environment based. Because the environment around a homosexual is usually very negative, the other ones are based on humans getting mental disorders as a fact of life. Drug use among the community is also due to the hate and fear surrounding gays, depression often leads to drug use. And suicide rates are more common with gay youth because again, an environment of hate.

End the hate, bigotry, and fear, and those numbers will go down I assure you.

Well still, we cant base the reason for their use, I suspect that if it is to be natural, it might be maybe a defect, sort of like a gene which tends to tilt on the wrong side of the sex (male or female) scale than the other.

except for the fact were there can never actually be gay marriage because it 1. can only be shared between one man and one women,and 2, recognized in the eyes of god, what, gays actually want is a form of domestic partnership that gives them the same privledges and a married couple, but also proves there love for one another

Then why can two atheist people, who have no form of want or acceptance of religion, still get married under a JP. Marriage is no longer a religious institution anymore. If the Catholic Church and Christian Church want to keep gays from getting married under their church, fine, their religion can stay "pure". And allow gays to go to the JP and get married. That way the government does it's job (the "all men are created equal" thing ya know) and the churches and still have their religion and keep it to their faith.

And marriage can only be shared between a man and a woman because the bible says so. But the bible should not dictate our laws, I'm not a Christian, there are many Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Atheists, Buddhists, and other religions that are not Christian, so why are we basing our laws, based on one book, from one religion. We are not a religious country, so our laws should not dictate religion. Our laws should be by the constitution, and the constitution says ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL. So since government stepped its foot into marriage, it better uphold the constitution and make it equal for everyone.

i dont have time reed your well educated novel, but marriage in the government comes from religion, without religion, there would be no marriage, also two atheist people can get married, it just means that there union is being recognized by god

Atheists don't see it that way, they want to be married, and they want the benefits the government gives married couples. Marriage in the government comes from religion because marriage was invented by religion. But our government is not a Christian government, it's not an atheist government, it's not a Jewish government, we are a country of FREEDOM OF RELIGION. Not freedom to push your religion into law so that people have to follow your ideas on what marriage is.

If we were a Christian nation, then our laws should be dictated by the bible, but we are not. Our government has no ties to religion, that's why churches are tax free, they get no lobbying power in the government (the Catholic Church does it anyway but that isn't the point). We are a nation that protects EVERY person, no matter what religion. To dictate our laws based on Christianity basically tells all other religions that they aren't worthy of their ideas becoming law. We are a freedom of religion country, you have the freedom to practice your religion however you want, and government will protect that right, but freedom of religion doesn't mean you have freedom to impose your religion on government.

If our government hadn't started giving married couples special privileges, then it wouldn't be and issue. But now that government has come into marriage and made laws about it, it now has a job to make marriage equal for everyone under the law. Christians can still have their marriages "recognized by God", because if God really hated homosexuals, even if WE called it marriage, HE wouldn't be recognizing it. Isn't that all that really matters? If God recognizes it or not. If he hated homosexuals he wouldn't recognize our puny "human marriages", he would only recognize ones that were formed in his church (whichever one THAT is) under his religion.

well that's just what marriage is, and we can't change wat god made, also, every one does have equal marriage rights, in the sense that every man has the right to marry a women, and every women has the right to marry a man

God didn't make marriage though, religion made marriage, if God made marriage then ALL animals would get married, and we would have been marrying LONG before religion started. But beyond that non since, maybe you don't really understand how many definitions the bible deems as "appropriate marriage".

And no, not everyone has equal marriage rights, two women can not marry, two men can not marry. That is not equal. Under the church that's fine, that's their freedom to express that they don't like homosexuals, but as citizens under the government they should be protected just like everyone else, and given the same rights to marry as we straight couples do.

God didn't make marriage, he didn't make religion, we made all that up. Who are WE to say what God wants and does not want? I always hear "We don't know God's will" thrown around a lot, so then why is it okay to base EVERYTHING on the Bible, when we all know it was written by man, explaining what they think God wants, basically what we think the will of God is. Turns out that it isn't God's will at all, just our own, and we say that that's what God wants so that people will follow it.

There are many things that the bible says that we don't follow. Maybe you should read the book sometime.

this is were we part ways, the "religion" states that god had given them marriage, and it had no other benefits other they showed their love in the eyes of god, you cannot see that because you're trying to oppress your thoughts and opinions on other, the real truth is, no one really knows anything, and no one really has the right to go around trying to make people belive what they belive. also, I don't have to read your short novels, I can tell you put lots of effort into them, i just don't have time

You keep saying you don't read what I said yet take the time to tell me that, lol I think you're trying to find someway to upset me.

I'm not trying to oppress my thoughts and opinions on another, I'm not the one who doesn't support gay marriage based on one ideology. You can have whatever beliefs you want to, but because your beliefs are law YOU are actually trying to force YOUR vies and opinions on ME.

If God hates gays then he wouldn't acknowledge their human marriages anyways. Unless you are so cocky to say that God HAS to recognize ALL of our government controlled marriages. Because an all knowing powerful being can't make those decisions on his own right?

hahah i only read the first sentence, is what i meant

hmmm, lets read anyway,.......no, not trying to force anything on you, i haven't once told you to change, i was mearly "pointing out" but the long story short" marriage is a religious thing, and if gays what the benefits of what comes with it then fine, im ok with that, we just can't call it mariage.

Exactly why you're still a closed minded bigot, probably only read the first sentence in the Bible too lawl

dude, really, bigot? i disaprove of one thing and all the sudden im the bigot, hahahahahah, go on, i'd love to see what other things you have to say about me, the person you have never even met,

lol

you feel the nead to atack me verbally, because in real life your a sad little man, and i can just infer that about you, because your so violent tempered and outlash at a random person exploring a COMEDY WEBSITE trying to enjoy himself, if you really have a problem, im interested to see what your gona do about it

lol

okay, well now that's settled, have a good day, and theres no need to be upset, you can always turn to me in your time of need, good luck

lmao

hehe, well glad were at an understanding

Not a real argument, it's rather compasion for kids living with two same gender parrents.
Although it can turn out to be good, I personaly think that that ideal we have now of a perfect family is rather appropriate and desirable, from the perspective of a child.

It's better to have two moms than none, it's better to have two dads than none.

Kids who grow up in foster care, as opposed to with a loving family, are less likely to succeed. Studies have shown this. Kids who grow up with same sex parents, are NOT more likely to be gay. Studies have shown that too.

The only valid reason people bring up with homosexuals raising kids is that the children will get "bullied". Well, who's fault is that in the first place? We as parents are in charge to make sure we don't raise our children with fear and ignorance. If we raise our children to accept people, then that's how they will act. A child doesn't see sex, race, or religion when they see two people who love each other, they see two people who love each other. That's all. They are born innocent, it's us as the parents that corrupt them to become bullies because they fear and don't understand.

That being said, many of my generation is already open to the idea of homosexuals. And we are starting to have children, so we will raise them as accepting. So the bully issue won't be so bad in the next 10 years. People who see homosexuality as wrong, will soon be outnumbered so the bullying will stop. There are people who think interracial couples are wrong, but you don't see them walking around saying anything to anyone about it, because it's now considered ignorant so they keep those opinions to themselves.

Soon homosexuals will be that, there will be a few people who dislike them, but they will be such a minority that they won't act on those opinions.

The only people hurt by making it illegal for homosexuals to adopt, are the children who are in need of a home.

Sooo gays are going to get married then have giant orgies in the streets because of it? Your logic is absolutely idiotic anon. Gays are having sex RIGHT NOW, marriage isn't going to change that.....

exactly my thought.

It does say view all 10 comments. I assume she mentioned god and it being unnatural in those

Well, most people who think it's wrong say it's wrong because God says it's wrong. They don't actually have a valid argument, cause the Bible is just a book. That's like picking up Twilight and saying that sparkly gay vampires are real.

I believe in God, but I don't believe in the bible. im just sick of Atheist's going on as if they know everything, and sick of religious nut jobs, thinking they are doing gods work. The war between religion and atheism, annoys me. If we're all on the same bus, who gives a fuck who the driver is?

Well, it's the same with everything. If you aren't a strong, sane, close minded, straight white man, you are considered "different" and hated on in some way. Us humans are disgusting. We are all the same species, how can we hate on each other so hard?

(WARNING FJ, long religious and opinion coming up) I agree, the world is such a beautiful place, and such a horrifying and scary place as the same time. I don't have it in me to be Atheist, believing that there's nothing after death. After death someone told me, i would come back reincarnated, I wouldnt be like "God fucking dammit, i wanted heaven" i be like "awesome, another chance at life" or heaven i be like "Awesome, i get to see some of my loved ones again" or even an spirt, "hey, least im still aware of thing, lets go in the women's lockeroom, and move random objests around and fuck with people" what im trying to say it, i don't hate on other people beliefs, but i do have alot of hate in me, such as most idiots out there are so stupid. but none of us are perfect, thats what makes us human. we have so many questions. and the truth is, we are never gonna answer them cause we have too much theory's. and life is not worth living if god gave us all the answers. its like going into a movie when you know what gonna happen.

Well, I wouldn't consider myself athiest, but I don't believe in god. I have my reasons, and I'm sure people who do believe have theirs. I don't assume anything happens after death, even though I have had experiences with spirits. I just can't believe that there's some higher being who created us all and controls fate. Because if there is, he's a COMPLETE fucking asshole.

Experience, with Spirits? do tell?
hmmm how can i explain it to defend God? lol. Okay have you every played The Sims? well have you got bored of it after awhile and came back to it later on? maybe thats how god feels. all the shit the human race has done, Wars. slavery, murder, jersey shore. it was all too much, so we has like Fuck this. they can do what they want.

True. But that's no reason to be an asshole to people that don't deserve it. I mean, I've had a really shitty life, and no matter how many times people have told me over the years that it would get better, it just gets worse. For example, it was all getting better, so I was finally beginning to believe those people, but then my mum went crazy and started drinking again, and my sister tried to commit suicide like 3 weeks ago (she half succeeded, she had no brain function for a few hours, but she's okay now, other than hating me for no real reason) and yeah. I'm a bit of a pessimist now. I just don't understand, how God could let this happen, when all my life I have done good things, and been a good kid, but I never get anything good in return.
Also, about the spirits thing, I used a Ouija board once, and man, let's just say.. that shit proved it wasn't a hoax.

Wow dude, I am truly sorry to hear that, i hope your mother and sister will get well soon. and i wish them the best. but i know how you feel, as being a pessimist that is. i dont know what your going through with you life, cause my life is rather ok. but, isn't life existence a question how and not why? like proving evolution doesnt disprove god. I believe god is real, but he is not controlling our life, maybe he wants us to find out own way and build our own life. or if reincarnation theory exists, maybe in the previous life you did something awful, and this life you are maybe being tested to prove your worth for a good life next. (just a theory now) but just remember this, there is always someone out there that is worse than you. God, or no God, keep pursuing that happiness, every human has a thirst for happiness, thats why we keep chancing it. even though we know everything has to come to an end, even our happiness. i do believe there is an end, but i dont believe there is permanent end, i believe there is always a restart. i doubt all this universe is just a coincidence, it looks all too planned for me. but thats my opinion, and my opinion helps me get through life. and what ever helps you through life, keep at it.

Eh, I've just decided to not care about anything anymore. Caring makes stuff hurt. And I've had too much hurt. But yeah, I'm pretty sure in my past life, I drowned as a teenager. Cause I have this weird memory of being on a water slide with a young (teenage years) girl, and then something happening and not being able to breathe, and tumbling through water, and then looking up from underwater, to see a bunch of people grabbing for me, and hearing them screaming, and then everything going black and feeling heavy weight on my lungs. I have no idea where this memory could have come from though..

that is weird, so its a memory? not a nightmare? alot of people have weird supernatural experiences. There has to be something after death.

Yeah, a memory, for as long as I can remember. And I can't place a time when I started having it, it just seems like it came from... before..

I haven't had much supernatural experience's but once, one night i woke up around 4 am, and saw a shadow like figure of a man, staring right in my fucking face. thought it was my dad for a sec then realised it wasnt, i fucking screamed while swinging punches with my eyes closed, lol then 2 seconds later nothing, was there. thought it was my mind playing tricks on me, but why would i wake up for no apparent reason at 4 am, then i started reading morbid posts, and i was like fuck that....

Ah, yeah. Nothing like that's happened..

Why are people thumbing you down?

I don't know, I think they are mad cause I'm completely bashing God. I just can't believe in someone who is such an asshole. I'm all for equality, in gay rights, racial rights, gender rights, everything. I think it's bullshit that we can't coexist on this planet. We are all humans. It makes no sense.

I agree completely. I'd rather have no god than a god who is a complete dick.

"Gods says its wrong."

I don't want to go through any implications.

Unless I were to read the fucking Bible and it says "My name is God and I hate the fuck out of gay people" Then, Fuck him.

Well, I don't know the Bible much, all I know is that this "God" guy seems to hate everyone who does anything different. Or at least that's what people make it seem like. They're just going with "God's word". If I am wrong, then them Christian better get their preachers on a leash, cause they're closing the doors for possible believers.

I'm not bashing it, I'm open to the opinions, I just disagree. I just think anything against gay people is COMPLETE bullshit. It's just like racism and sexism. I believe in equality.

I don't see what the big deal is.

Guys can get married. Thats the end of it.

Don't like gay marriage? Don't get married to your sex.

Exactly.

Why isn't it needed? Having new gay characters allows new, unexplored plotlines into the marvel universe, something that is always needed.

"How am I supposed to tell my child, that two men are getting married?"
I don't know, its your shitty kid you tell him. You're preventing two men from getting married because you can't talk to your ugly kid for 10 minutes? I bet he's a faggot any way.

-Louis C.K.

^ This <3

There are much more deep-seated issues when people don't support gay marriage, and it's ignorant of someone to think that the only reason people don't support gay marriage is because they don't want to explain it to their kids.

I was about to thumb you down to oblivion, then I read the last sentence.

MFW

I'm guessing someone said it in the other 10 comments
which I know exist because of the "View all 10 comments" link.

Fair enough.

u sir r my hero

To continue: Why are people doing shit like this to try and be popular on the internet?
It's like this awful trend of "maybe if I am an asshole to assholes people will like me".

They won't, you're still an asshole. Like seriously, stop. You are not going to be the next civil rights leader because you flamed some backwards person on FB.

Who cares? it was cut to look a certain way to serve a political purpose. It will thus be treated as such, thanks for playing try again.

This is cool, but if I may add something:
6) When rebutting someone, use their own points against them, play on the same field. e.g. A Catholic and atheist arguing: Catholic should attack the opponent with science and their views, while the atheist should attack with religion.

Not necessarily, because atheism is a lack of belief, not believing in science. You could be an atheist and not believing in science.

I can step away from the computer for a short amount of time, is that super power?