are you even trying?

I know... that made me laugh...thumb for you!

Because of magnets obviously.

I John says God IS light. I guess he invented himself first.

>implying sun was the only source of light ever

^This.

He put fossils and dinosaurs in the ground, only to fuck with our minds :D

Obviously it was a light bulb on the first day.

Why bother asking a question about the bible if you are just going to troll anyone who answers?

Because the christian god loves to fuck with us. I'm not christian, but perhaps if he made light... there are other stars in the universe that create light? And if "one day is a thousand years" then that light COULD reach earth from the thousands of lightyears away that it is... of course I don't know the whole passage, so count me wrong because idgaf anymore.

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geeze, im christian and i still believe in evolution, thats pretty bad.

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Indeed.

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Sounds about right.

I'm inclined to agree.

When Christians pay money to the church because they are buying tickets to heaven and it's a sold out show because it isn't fucking real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For the record, a worldwide flood could make said things happen much faster than millions of years. Say a couple of weeks.

Oh please, don´t tell me you´re going to use the Noe´s flood forming the Grand Canyon reference...

Well if that´s the reference you are using, there are some facts against it:

-The Grand Canyon is made of hardened rocks, fossiles, shell, etc. In other words, really hard stuff and it´s the strong enough to hold a flow like Noe´s flood without breaking itself. The only process that can break that stone with only water is erosion. And erosion is not a fact that depends on amount, but in time (A really long time). This took millions of years to form and there is proof. The Grand Canyon itself is erosen rock. The rock in the Grand Canyon continues even now.

Other: If you are taking Noe´s fact literally, he couldn´t possibly take ALL the animals in the WORLD including the cheetas, tigers and other creatures that re only present in certain parts of the world

This is my reference, what is yours?

Mutation... that is also called evolution. I don´t know if you support evolution, but if you don´t, You just backfired. Besides mutation doesn´t happen that fast in nature, or else other brand of animals would have come out of the humans already. Those animals that are you say mutated after Noe´s flood, were there already. Proof? Caveman painting and representation of said animals. Different in each continent and before Noe´s time.

How I know it took millions of years. Erosion has proof everywhere, it is a fact and it takes time to do so, It can take from hours to million of years depending of the solidness of the rock, from sand to the Grand Canyon rocks. Search any middle school science project and find out. The harder the rock is, the more it lasts, but eventually it gives up. There is even an episode of The Magic Schoolbus about it.LOL

Now let´s not go with the insults. Evolution is adaptation, wether it is by changing behavior or Genetic data in a SPECIES. Now you´re right, Mutation and Evolution are diferent, I was wrong, but that still doesn´t proove you theory. Mutation occurs only in one organism when trying to adapt quickly to the enviroment and it can change back, when Evolution is a Mutation that mantains the change in the species. That means that when the mutation becomes part of the caracteristic of a species, it is ALREADY stored in the DNA as you said. answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090318013244AAIFtqU BTW I never said anything about Natural Selection

And you still haven´t placed an argument in favor of your theory.

I don't have a theory. It's a simple fact that everything simply could not have evolved from everything.

I was actually talking about the Noe´s flood forming the Grand Canyon and the diversification of animals that wasn´t supported. And you´re right, everything didn´t evolve from nothing. It did have a begining. You know when you just have 3 colors in a pallet and mixing them with time you create many complex colors? Live is exactly the same, but since it is way more complex than just colors, it takes a lot more time.

Nothing happens when you only have one species of simple organisms.

False, It does, when I was talking about the colors, it wasn´t only organisms I was refereing to. I was also refering to the climate and the enviroment. There are a lot of animals that mutated because of the enviroment. You could take for example, the Polar Bear, which came from the Gray Bear. The new white fur would let sun rays get through more easily, because the Sun in the North Pole is less strong than in the northern forests. It also is a great disguise in the snow when hunting

But bears already had fur.
You can't get data from mutating.

You do get data from mutating. Mutation is modification, either it is adding data or just replacing. Remeber that evolution are a group of mutations that changes a species hereditarily. If that wasn´t true, there would have to be at least an organism since the beginnings of life with all the genes that there will come to be, and that ain´t true. it would have with either the Polar Bear gene, the Gray Bear gene or even the Human Genome, because where else could it come from then? Where did it get all the genes and why didn´t show them until now?

Give me one modern example of a mutation that irrefutably is a gain of genetic data.

The... Mother... Polar... Fucking... Bear...

It has genetic data that has been traced already to Brown Bears, here´s the link: www.independent.co.uk/news/science/where-do-polar-bears-come-from-ireland -2308889.html

No. It already had fur. Changing colors isn't a gain in genetic data, it's just a change.
>_>

Since somehow I can´t reply to your comment #211, I´ll reply here:

Natural Selection is the survival of the most adapted animal to the enviroment... Evolution has the biggest part on Natural Selection, the Brown Bear would survive less in the North Pole without Evolution. Natural Selection is evolution when talking about survival!

You're backwards. Natural Selection is supposedly part of Evolution.

You don't know what you're talking about. I'm done here.

... OHHHH I get it. You think that when someone gains genetic information they have more body parts or more of something. That ain´t true at all. Genes as well can be supresors, that means more genes can actually block a characteristing from showing. The Polar Bear could have gained a gene that supressed the production of melanine in it´s hair, (Melanine makes hair dark in humans as well dark skins)

That's just natural selection. You don't know the difference, so I don't think you're really in any place to be talking about this.

If I haven´t been around to see it... wait... you saw Noe´s flood? But everyone was killed so...so that must mean... you are Noe!

Nonono. I have faith. You claim to believe in science, not faith.
Also, I'm tired of seeing this. It's spelled "Noah".

Then as well you shoudn´t try to defend religious beliefs with scientific facts such as mutation.

I actually disagree, no matter how much science may advance, science will never replace religion. That's because (well at least for me) religion answers "why" and science answers "how"
Even though Christians have the Bible and it is called the "Book of answers" truth is, we hardly know anything at all about the purpose either. Only stupid Christians continue to use the argument "Because God made it that way". The Bible actually teaches true understanding. There are multiple verses but to sum it all up would be "Demonstrate love, kindness, and mercy to everyone regardless of nationality, whether you like them or not, wealth, religion, etc." It instills a basic intrinsic value within each person that they are created in God's image. Assuming you're atheist and I'm a Christian, I don't believe you and you don't believe me, but that doesn't mean we can't show each other respect and compromise.

YES. THANK YOU.

You are a brave man, sir. Brave enough to give a valid argument defending christians who believe inscience on a site of atheists. You deserve my thumb, and many more.

its a repost too....a very reposted post.....