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lodisboeg (05/17/2012) [-]
Really, it should be the other way around... What if i believe that santa exists even though im 25 years old? Well, I shut the fuck up about it. What if i believe that the tooth-fairy exists, even though ive got kids of my own? Well, I shut the fuck up about it. But what if I believe that an alien abducted me? Well, I should shut the fuck up about it, UNLESS IVE GOT SOME EVIDENCE. Or else be branded a complete retard, which is not unreasonable, might I add...
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N. Korean citizen (05/17/2012) [-]
But see.... religious people tend to have reasons for talking about their religion. Christianity is, at it's heart, a way to comfort people, mainly through community. Talking about God is how they make themselves feel better about themselves and the world. (I'd like to stress that this is not a bad thing. Needing comfort does not make you weak, it means you're human.)
Atheists, on the other hand.... They don't believe in anything. Or, rather, they firmly believe that there is no God. There is no community. There is no moral code. There is no jihad, no crusades, no passion. Atheists are just people who disagree with all these other people.
There's nothing wrong with that, either. There's nothing wrong with anything so long as it doesn't hurt anyone, I don't think. Just saying words.
(Also, because I figure someone will thumb me down because they think me Christian/Atheist, I don't really have a clear definition of what I believe, but it's neither of those.)
Atheists, on the other hand.... They don't believe in anything. Or, rather, they firmly believe that there is no God. There is no community. There is no moral code. There is no jihad, no crusades, no passion. Atheists are just people who disagree with all these other people.
There's nothing wrong with that, either. There's nothing wrong with anything so long as it doesn't hurt anyone, I don't think. Just saying words.
(Also, because I figure someone will thumb me down because they think me Christian/Atheist, I don't really have a clear definition of what I believe, but it's neither of those.)
Sure, and if I believed in Santa I'm sure could find plenty of reasons to talk about him.
Atheists, contradicting what you write, believe in reason. And just like a chistian is an atheist about most of the worlds gods, an atheist have simply added another one to the long list of gods which we don't believe in.
And trying to claim that morals and religion is linked to any greater extent is simply false... We can by todays moral standards deem many of the passages in the bible or the qu'ran as immoral. Unless we had a moral sense cut of from and independent of relgion we would not be able to do that.
(Also, I find it humorous how you say that atheists firmly believe there is no god. Atheists also firmly believe there is no santa, no tooth fairy, no teapot orbiting around mars, no flying spagetthi monster, just like most other reasonable people. They just chose to take their non-believing one step further)
Atheists, contradicting what you write, believe in reason. And just like a chistian is an atheist about most of the worlds gods, an atheist have simply added another one to the long list of gods which we don't believe in.
And trying to claim that morals and religion is linked to any greater extent is simply false... We can by todays moral standards deem many of the passages in the bible or the qu'ran as immoral. Unless we had a moral sense cut of from and independent of relgion we would not be able to do that.
(Also, I find it humorous how you say that atheists firmly believe there is no god. Atheists also firmly believe there is no santa, no tooth fairy, no teapot orbiting around mars, no flying spagetthi monster, just like most other reasonable people. They just chose to take their non-believing one step further)
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N. Korean citizen (05/17/2012) [-]
Are you saying that atheists don't believe in the idea having a community or a moral code, or are you saying that they don't believe in a christian community with christian morals? Also if you spend more than 2 minutes on this site you'd see that atheists are pretty passionate about thier beliefs aswell.
he's saying that with christianity, non believers are sent to hell, so people think they're being nice when they try to convert people, because they'd feel bad if people went to hell.
On the other hand, athiests don't think anything bad happens when people die, yet going around trying to convert people anyways. I can appreciate that some athiests are just trying to do so to save other people time from going to church and stuff, but going to church a few times won't kill you.
On the other hand, athiests don't think anything bad happens when people die, yet going around trying to convert people anyways. I can appreciate that some athiests are just trying to do so to save other people time from going to church and stuff, but going to church a few times won't kill you.