Taking offense

they are still very homophobic and they still brainwash kids. trust me ive been to a "jesus camp" and shit they do to you there is beyond insane

It depends, every single one of the religious people have nothing against homosexuals. I've been to a christian summer camp from when i was 8 til 14 and all they taught us was to love everyone equally no matter gender/race/sexual preference etc...

Since i know many christians around Europe i can say that the majority of them are not homophobic. Although from all i hear on news and what i read on the internet it seems the American christians are stupid backwater people who hasn't been updated about how the world works the last 200 - 300 years.

Censoring, brainwashing, homophobia and rejection of science are still happening in the most developed of countries.

Middle-eastern Islam, parhaps?

I dub these people, religious niggers

Excuse me, but that is not true. A lot of people are killed every day due to religious issues

Yeah, but religion had nothing to do with that. Did religion have anything to do with the crusades or spanish inquisition? YES.

Nobody is saying religion causes every problem you fucktard.

Dude said that people are killed each day because of religious issues. That is not an attack on religion. That is fact. If you can't accept it then you are a fucking dickhole.

Also. Atheism isn't a belief. You can't blame it for something. Blaming atheism for stalins murders is retarded. Atheism is the lack of belief. Not a belief in itself. It doesn't affect life choices.

The point behind it was that religion was and still is used as a tool to control and bully a population. The only reason it doesn't happen anymore is because society has evolved to a point where it would not be acceptable.

Here's a question for you.

Try to think of 3 abhorrent things that could or has only happen(ed) due to the existence and practice of religion (If you need help I can make a list for you). Now try to think of one that example that could only be committed by an atheist.

in the mid west they also currently stone people and cause jihad

For just a second I thought you were talking about the U.S. states in the center of the country

Perhaps, perhaps not.

Often times, when someone believes everything they're told, or refuses to see evidence as such...they are intellectually inferior.

Ok...again.

you say that but some black americans have tracked down the family that enslaved their ancestors and demanded compensation. not saying you dont have a point, just saying it happens.

Ok...

And then most white people just look at them like they're stupid.

Exactly. I can think of just as many atrocious acts committed by atheist as I can by religious people.

thats a past time not a religious value what are you talking about

Well not only that but he's only saying this to people that are offended of the very fact that he's atheist... I'm pretty sure this scathing diatribe isn't directed at normal people that aren't douchenozzles.

It's been shopped here's the original

lol. funny. :D :[)

Dude you're completely right, runescape was good.

The point was lost in your mindless ranting.

He said "I'm sorry if my religion offends you..." so he clearly wasn't addressing all theists only those who were offended. And he gave many valid points, you knew exactly what he meant yet you want to discredit his entire paragraph on the basis of a mere technicality? That's a cop out. The argument never has and never will be only theists have killed.

However (I have said this earlier in this thread) try to name 3 crimes which could and have only be committed due to an individual or groups religion (I could make a list if you're stuck). Now try to think of one which can only be committed by an Atheist.

you're right but more people have been killed in the name of religion than anything else. and you seem like a pretty decent person but the "radical" islamists are more forceful in their ways such as demanding separate Islamist states in every country and sexism is most prevalent in islamic communities especially with dress code. so good on you cuz you make your religion look good but those other guys make you look like a bad guy and they are just ignorant.

sure atheists have killed people but how many atheists have killed in the name of atheism dipshit

Stalin didn't kill in the name of atheism, he killed religious people because he didn't like them. You cannot do anything in the name of atheism.

Arguably, any Communist nation who has executed the religious for being religious has done so in the name of state-enforced atheism.

Although said purges are nothing compared to the persecution atheists have received from the religious for as long as the two concepts have existed.

fair enough kind sir

Cool story bro.

And we have waged* wars* to protect* ourselves* in the name of freedom*.

Inb4, you are stupid, just because you add a title or adjective in front of a war doesn't make the war about that.

Crusades were about money and power, they just brainwashed the commonfolk.

Same with Jihad.

Same with everywhere.

It works because people like you take things at face value and believe what someone who is in power has to say about it.

Whats the saying? Shit on a golden plate is still shit.

It seems that you just point out a select amount of people that equate to about 1%, or less, of the total population. Do you have the ability to see outside of what is right in front of you?

but its on a golden plate.

quite a few, look up the roman prosecution of christians

The Romans labeled Christians as atheists for not believing in the Greco-Roman gods and used that as justification for killing them. The Romans were not atheists themselves.

Emperor Nero never affiliated himself with any gods

Doesn't matter. The Roman Empire officially followed the Greco-Roman pantheon, and anyone who didn't follow that system of belief was labeled a pagan and an atheist (with the exception of a few religions, like Judaism, who were given special protection for submitting to the rule of Rome).

No they didn't you dumbshit.

Though they weren't atheists, they didn't kill Christians for being atheists.

In ancient times, anyone who didn't follow the official religion of a nation was labeled an atheist (or a pagan, which was basically synonymous with atheism in those days), even if they actually believed in a deity; the definition of atheism we use today didn't exist until the Enlightenment. Christians didn't follow the Greco-Roman pantheon that was the official belief system of Rome, nor did they follow one of the beliefs granted special protections (i.e. Judaism), so they were labeled atheists and pagans and thus condemned to death by Roman officials. So, yes, the Romans DID kill Christians for being "atheists".

A couple of things. The name you've chosen is runescape is good. Secondly, killing in the name of "atheism" is retarded. An atheist can kill but not because of it unlike christianity. Sure, tell me to get off their high horse and be like everyone else because we're all insignificant? Fuck you. You are a pathetic participant and fierce defender of a world wide desensitized cult. YOU are pathetic and belong to a group responsible for countless murders and unjustifiable destruction. Fuck you primitive pathetic shit and fuck religion and fuck christianity you are all PATHETIC and RETARDED. You have slowed down societal progress for thousands of years and i hope evolution gets the fuck rid of you. There are hundreds of religions which just goes to fucking show it is a man made cult. YOU are the reason religion still "exists". Maybe atheists should have crusades where we go around killing people who believe in religion? No because religion did that. If you're a nazi but you haven't killed anyone you are just as much responsible. You slow down human progress.

By the way, some extremists, as you might say, are a great minority. Instead of looking at that small 1% of people, look at the ones who are taught morals by religion. If you have the ability to use your peripheral vision or even to turn your head, I suggest you use that ability. You clearly have not recently. That small 1% does not dictate what the rest of the world thinks.

Allow me to address all of your points.

1. I did not say I supported killings. I merely said that, just like Christians, Atheists have killed before as well.
2. I'm not even Christian, and it is very disgusting to mock someone's religion or belief system.
3. Why curse? It just goes to show that you can't express yourself in any other way and that this website is your life.
4. What do you think you're trying to prove to me? Do you think it will work?
5. You "deem me pathetic". That is GREAT. Except.. I couldn't care less. Honestly, we are all insignificant specks, and I don't care at all what you, another insignificant speck, thinks of me.
6. I suggest you get off your high horse as well. You are saying that atheists are so good and that they are better than Christians, but at least they're not shoving their beliefs down my throat in this thread. You think your opinion matters so much, and yet, it's amazing how the world, or even the universe, doesn't revolve around you. Honestly, you talk as if it does.
7. I'm glad that I, singlehandedly (as you said), am the reason that religion exists.
8. If there are multiple religions, it does not mean they are all fake and "cults".
Example: Just because there are many edible fruits, doesn't mean that they are all bad. Just because there are multiple, it does not mean that one of them isn't good.
9. You have repeatedly stated that I "slow down the human process".. I find this interesting because you have backed it up using 0 evidence. Please give me proof that I am "slowing down the human process... by thousands of years"
10. What's with the comment about my name at the beginning of your angered argument?

i jihad to understand people like you

well he hasnt killed anyone yet

It's not that we think we're better than you because we don't believe in a creator. It's that we think we're better than you for all the reasons listed in the post.

i thought it was a way of summarizing it

Belief in a creator doesn't necessitate the horrors listed. Thank Yahweh or Allah or Jehova or Jah or fucking Thor for all I care when you're eating dinner but keep it at home for fucks sake.

i agree that this does go two ways but what im saying is that i want this site to be funny which its currently failing at right now

Well, in all honesty, this kind of content gets thumbs because of the people who agree with this way of thinking. It's scientifically proven and well known that when somebody hears something they agree with, they get a little burst of endorphins in their brain.

Makes sense that stuff like this reaches the front page sometimes.

All you can do if you don't like it is thumb it down and continue on your day.

Well apparently for mike Treder it is.

Tell that to fundies.

fundies?

Fundamental Christians. The ones that believe in creationism and always try to shove their religion down your throat. They're the ones who get shit grades in science in high school because they're too stupid to understand the concept of the world they live in.

ahh yer those shitty people

Yup. There's stupid, asshole religious nuts, and there are stupid asshole atheists. The vast majority of both are fine, but the minority screams the loudest in both of these groups, making them both look bad.