Ricky you sassy cunt. . Atheism (ltot' t a Belief Systems; ' " 1. Saying atheism is a belief system is like saying not going skiing is a hobby. We never been sk Ricky you sassy cunt Atheism (ltot' t a Belief Systems; ' " 1 Saying atheism is belief system like saying not going skiing hobby We never been sk
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Atheism (ltot' t a Belief Systems; ' "
1. Saying atheism
is a belief system
is like saying not
going skiing is a
hobby. We never
been skiing. It' s my
biggest hobby.
I literally do it all.
the time."
Ricky
Gervais
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#3 - highclassbean
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an actual post about atheism and not christianity bashing in the atheism channel?
#203 to #3 - anon id: 2538ad90
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That's like have a PC channel and bashing on Macs
#206 to #203 - anon id: 2538ad90
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and NOT bashing on macs, obviously.
User avatar #128 - douthit
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Yeah, but non-skiiers don't get in the face of skiiers and ridicule them and tell them how stupid they are. And there are no non-skiier conventions, forums, or dating websites.
User avatar #132 to #128 - mynameisnotmike
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this
User avatar #135 to #128 - PlagueDoctor
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but they should because skiing is ******* amazing!

In all seriousness though, you are right
User avatar #190 to #128 - savvasp
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Yeah but ski is real. Inb4 thumbs down
User avatar #397 to #128 - MosKunas
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You say it as if there isn't conventions for all religions, as well as forums etc. And I thought we all heard of christianmingle.com? Maybe you should hit that site up and find someone as narrow minded as you! Would be a great pair!
#159 to #128 - anon id: 9e4b7a26
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Yeah, but neither do skiers tell non-skiers how dumb and amoral they are, nor do they kill people for not skiing (or for believing snowboards are better).

So yeah, that analogy is pretty stupid in that context.
User avatar #287 to #159 - toosexyforyou
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actually skiers do brag about how great skiing is and insist that non-skiers skii
#205 to #128 - anon id: 9ad848a4
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I guarantee there's a non skiing forum
#273 to #128 - anon id: b60a4026
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that's because skiiers don't try to force the world to live by their skiing beliefs and think that the world was made by a giant ski 500 years ago and therefore we must ski or burn forever.
#347 to #128 - anon id: f47fa377
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FOUND THE CHRISTIAN! GUYS, I FOUND HIM!

and a butthurt one too
User avatar #252 to #128 - melioracogito
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Neither does all atheists, only the douchebags.
User avatar #333 to #128 - nelflover
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Non-skiiers 1
Skiiers 0
#136 - anon id: dfe19c76
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Atheism means you believe there is no god. isn't that a belief?
User avatar #138 to #136 - thecratcher
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Atheism is the rejection of believes...
User avatar #140 to #138 - wheresthefudge
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No, that's nihilism. Atheism is the belief that there is no god.
You could make a decent argument as to how it's not a system of beliefs, but it is most definitely a belief.
#218 to #140 - boozzerr
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"Atheism is not a philosophy; it is not even a view of the world; it is simply a refusal to deny the obvious. Unfortunately, we live in a world in which the obvious is overlooked as a matter of principle. The obvious must be observed and re-observed and argued for. This is a thankless job. It carries with it an aura of petulance and insensitivity. It is, moreover, a job that the atheist does not want."

- Sam Harris
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#420 to #253 - boozzerr
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Let me give you an example
As Richard Dawkins has observed, we are all atheists with respect to Zeus and Thor (Or the son god Ra and so on).
Only the atheist has realized that the biblical god is no different.
It is an obvious fact which the atheist refuses to deny but the christian believing in the word of the bible do deny (or the muslim with the word of the Koran, the jew with the word of the torah and so on).
= Refusal to deny the obvious

We (i.e. the atheist) refuse to believe in something holy because simply their is no evidence for it - we "choose" the way of skepticism and inquiry in any case, because only by continual exercise of these faculties can we hope to achieve anything.



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#146 to #136 - yerfdog
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It is the lack of a belief in a god. Not the belief that there is no god.
User avatar #141 to #136 - darthtomale
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a-theism. as in the absence of theism.
#279 to #141 - anon id: 6d43d2ed
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How about the disbelieve in theism? Naturally people tend to believe in something.
User avatar #284 to #279 - darthtomale
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but if you are an a-theist you lack theism. it isn't indicative of anything except your lack of belief in something.
#412 to #284 - anon id: 6d43d2ed
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It is the presence of a believe of not believing something. The presence of disbelieve. Atheism isn't neutral.
User avatar #413 to #412 - darthtomale
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the term is only indicative of an absence of belief. it is a (a lack of) theism. A-theism. Atheism. The absence. of. theism.
#245 - sloot
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If I were to make a conclusion about Atheism based on the comments from this website it would seem that Atheism is just another thing to help hipsters feel superior to everyone else for no reason whatsoever.
User avatar #278 to #245 - popeflatus
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Simple: No proof = no belief.
User avatar #298 to #278 - lolollo
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No, atheism employs the fallacy that no proof = lack of thing.

What you described is agnosticism.
User avatar #423 to #298 - popeflatus
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So...this god could be...Thor, Ra, Zeus, Ahura-Mazda? Do you believe in the tooth fairy? Maybe Santa is real as well! No proof = no belief. It's scientific logic, not a fallacy.
User avatar #424 to #423 - lolollo
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http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/burden-of-proof.html

Yes...yes it is.
User avatar #425 to #424 - popeflatus
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No. The claimant must provide the evidence. If you can assert somthing without proof, you can dismiss it without proof.
User avatar #426 to #425 - lolollo
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Except that I've never made a claim in either direction.
#344 to #298 - anon id: a3882ddd
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Atheism is a lack of belief, not a claim of non existence. Many atheists do say god doesn't exist, but others just don't say that he does. Agnosticism isn't even on the same scale, it concerns knowledge. You can be a theist but still accept that you don't know for sure. There are agnostics and gnostics of all types.
User avatar #358 to #344 - lolollo
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So because some atheists don't follow that fallocy, it excuses the ones that do...

...yeahno
User avatar #359 to #358 - lolollo
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fallacy*
#341 to #298 - nakedfatguy
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Agnosticism is a knowledge claim, not a belief claim.

Here's a chart.
User avatar #280 to #278 - randomserb
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That's not atheism. That's agnosticism. Atheism is the belief that there is no God.
#368 to #245 - anon id: 2346a0be
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whats what race is for
#374 to #245 - anon id: 2377eb87
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Yes, the atheism movement has absolutely turned into another fag group like bronies, it's "not to be expected" and "out of the ordinary" so it's really cool. It really makes them look stupid when they say things like "I'm an atheist" followed by "god damnit" and "thank god"
#270 to #245 - laughingcarrot
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They're not real Atheists. Don't let them fool you. We are NOT like this at all.
They're not real Atheists. Don't let them fool you. We are NOT like this at all.
User avatar #196 - vivapinatapro
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Good thing we all build our arguments on things comedians say.
User avatar #388 to #196 - davve
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All atheists say this.
User avatar #222 - mrfartypants
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i respect his decision in life and wish him and the rest of you and your religions the best
#263 to #222 - tocoolforyouinajar
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Finally someone who doesn't go "hurr durr my religion is better because you're a faggot" +1 for you sir
User avatar #256 - snakefire
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On this site atheism is a belief system,because they religiously try to disprove creationism.
#314 to #256 - anon id: b187b934
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Well, it's more like there's a ton of antitheists calling themselves atheists who are too stupid to know the difference. Pretty much nothing on the atheist channel is actually atheistic because atheists don't even think about religion in their daily lives, much less spend time making fun of it.
#316 to #314 - snakefire
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You're the kind of atheist I can respect.
#325 to #256 - anon id: 6f5a853f
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Shut up, snakefire.
#289 - amsel
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Atheism is a religious belief because if asked "What are your beliefs on God?" an atheist would respond "I believe he doesn't exist." Ricky's argument holds up better for agnostics; if asked the same question, an agnostic would respond "I have none," similar to the way a person with no hobbies would respond to the question "What are your hobbies?" Atheism is the firm belief that there is no god, which is indeed a spiritual/religious belief. I suppose calling it a "system" is going a little far.

(Sorry for the double post, saw a grammar error and felt stupid)
#292 to #289 - werrew
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A thumb for you sir
A thumb for you sir
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#308 to #289 - welcometoatl
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Have we been reading Quine's "The Web of Belief"?
#322 to #289 - anon id: 6f5a853f
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But that's wrong, you ******* retard.
#301 to #289 - xmattx
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An atheist would actually respond "Oh, I don't believe in any gods." I should know, I am one. Not believing something is not the same as believing it doesn't exist. 'A' (no) + 'theism' (religion) = Atheism (no religion). The word itself perfectly describes what it is. If you do not follow a religion, you are an atheist. Simple as that. Agnosticism isn't even on the same scale. Gnosticism is how much certainty with which you claim something. Most atheists are agnostic atheists (don't believe in a god, but do not claim absolute certainty). I'm so sick of people like you misrepresenting us in this way.
An atheist would actually respond "Oh, I don't believe in any gods." I should know, I am one. Not believing something is not the same as believing it doesn't exist. 'A' (no) + 'theism' (religion) = Atheism (no religion). The word itself perfectly describes what it is. If you do not follow a religion, you are an atheist. Simple as that. Agnosticism isn't even on the same scale. Gnosticism is how much certainty with which you claim something. Most atheists are agnostic atheists (don't believe in a god, but do not claim absolute certainty). I'm so sick of people like you misrepresenting us in this way.
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If you do not follow a religion, that does not make you an atheist. That makes you areligious.

"Theism" does not mean "religion." It means "belief in god[s]." You can believe in a god or gods and not have a religion, and you can have a religion that does not have a god or gods.

"Gnosis" means "wisdom." Gnosticism was a movement in Christianity that is now considered heretical in which the followers believed that wisdom and knowledge were the key to salvation. Agnosticism means belief in a higher power[s], but not knowing what it/they is are.

Don't say that you're sick of people misrepresenting atheism when you're misdefining terms.
#392 to #373 - xmattx
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Even if I replace my definitions with yours, my argument still holds; atheism is not a belief (which is the misrepresentation I'm talking about). Gnosticism could also mean enlightenment, knowledge, or insight, which I summed up as 'certainty' for this case. I guess it is my bad though for oversimplifying belief in god(s) to religion. Does this clear things up?
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Whoops.

"Agnosticism means belief in a higher power[s]..." should be "Agnosticism means a possible belief in a higher power, but not knowing for sure." My bad.
User avatar #178 - CaptainPugwash
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Saying atheism is a belief is like saying abstinence is a sex position.
#171 - abcdxyz
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#343 to #171 - stokkeprygl
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Why would there be a flame war? This post isn't even bashing religion...