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#17 - cancerousiguana
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It's a well-known fact that all starfish have strong faith.
User avatar #33 to #17 - kingrayne
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But, Patrick forms a pentagram in that picture...
#21 to #17 - anon id: 32724035
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They don't have faith, they have Evolution to thank for their abilities to regenerate limbs. Lizards have this ability as well. Both are most likely just about sex and food. Then some love for a female.
User avatar #25 to #17 - secretdestroyers
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Also, lizards have the ability to re-grow their tails...Not the same thing, but they're useful appendages to lizards.
#97 to #17 - Chane
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Some more than others.
#35 to #17 - dalgaard
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User avatar #300 to #35 - eldorito
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It also fits perfectly in my butt.

Checkmate, Christians.
#11 - Gypsybob
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God answered all of my prayers, he just said no.
#13 - robots
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how to prayr with no rms?
#16 to #13 - tehlulzbringer
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Back when he had arms, he prayed for his arms to grow back if they were to get cut off

And then he chopped his arms off
#37 - winners
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#79 - lordmoldywart
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User avatar #196 to #79 - xishnik
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Doesn't believe that the earth is flat. SHUTS THE **** UP ABOUT IT. thats the spirit humanity!
User avatar #197 to #196 - lordmoldywart
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We can prove the world isn't flat, that's the difference
User avatar #200 to #197 - xishnik
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lets get all sci-ency up in this b before we assume validity of things before they are valid in terms of the perception of reality.
User avatar #198 to #197 - xishnik
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well lets prove that god does or doesnt exist before making conclusions, K?
User avatar #201 to #198 - lordmoldywart
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We can't prove or disprove that
User avatar #206 to #201 - xishnik
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oh and btw how can one disprove fiction? is fiction disprovable ever? do lack of records of something validate any kind of thing thats possible in this physical world? how can we refrain from believing out of feeling subjectively, rather then looking at the world objectively. *(the way the world actually is).
User avatar #207 to #206 - lordmoldywart
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Technically you can't disprove any fiction, even though there cthulu and the loch ness monster don't exist on this planet, who's to say they don't on other planets in far away galaxies?

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
User avatar #212 to #207 - xishnik
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This is absolutely true. however a lochness monster on another planet is no longer the same "lochness monster" but a creature. we have evidence for life, because we are so we can believe in the plausibility of such creatures. Deities on the other hand have no basis to stem our belief from, no root, no fact that needs the requirement of his infallibility as most theistic dogmas claim.
User avatar #202 to #201 - xishnik
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well then, my point is clear as day, why should we even assume it as a reality then?
#210 to #79 - xishnik
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Let's shut up,stop progress, and live the way we are now. Progress is stupid anyways right? asking questions, and talking about things in a questionable manner, and then testing it, and discussing the results is how progress occurs. The lack thereof therefore prevents a progressive environment to be sustained. Conservatives, and big business are just the kind of people that LOOOOOOOVE this kind of thinking.
User avatar #211 to #210 - lordmoldywart
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There is no way to prove or disprove a deity, so why waste time questioning it?
User avatar #215 to #211 - xishnik
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or what about early earth creationists, that try and dispute the age of the earth! It makes me want to throw up.
User avatar #217 to #215 - lordmoldywart
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Carbon dating has been proven to be pretty inaccurate at times so I can see why some still dispute the alleged age of the Earth, I couldn't care less how old it is though
User avatar #238 to #217 - satakas
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NOBODY (except creationists maybe) has EVER tried to date earths age by carbon dating.
User avatar #220 to #217 - xishnik
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Theres a humongous difference between 4,540,000,000 years, and 6,000 wouldn't you agree? and carbon dating is faulty, but guess what. Theres at least half a dozen other dating methods that are more accurate, and work for testing the age of the earth.
User avatar #223 to #220 - lordmoldywart
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Which dating methods are those? I'm only familiar with carbon dating
User avatar #239 to #223 - satakas
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too long list to copy-paste. try googling: Radiometric dating.
User avatar #226 to #223 - xishnik
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oh and where did this 6,000 number come from? it was from the ever so faulty, readings taken by a early earth creationist who didnt even know what he was doing.
User avatar #227 to #226 - lordmoldywart
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6,000 BC, so 8,000 years old
User avatar #229 to #227 - xishnik
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nvm i get what you were saying regarding the 8000 years old. when i glanced over i thought i saw a bc after the 8k. :P
User avatar #228 to #227 - xishnik
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wait what? why did you jump from 6 to 8? and it doesnt make a difference. the difference between actual scientific data, and creationists faulty data. is HUGEMONGOUSAURUS REX.
User avatar #224 to #223 - xishnik
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ok a exaggerated alittle. but radiometric dating was the one used for dating the earth. and theres huge evidence regarding techtonic shift, and evolutionary biology being closely related as responsible for the variations in species in parts of the planet.
User avatar #214 to #211 - xishnik
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and have you heard that there is a vast majority of people who don't believe in evolution just because the bible says so? how foolish is that! even the pope agreed with the evolution! yet in america people are foolish enough to disbelieve in a time standing theory, which hasn't been debunked. science illiteracy also fuels stupidty, and anti progress. THATs why we should be questioning this.
User avatar #242 to #214 - satakas
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"even the pope agreed with the evolution"
it's a fallacy, called "appeal to authority". there is no difference, who agreed with what. the pope/president/professor/random nobelist may have been gone just crazy and agree with anything. or his balls are pressed between the pliers and he will easily confess, that he himself IS the evolution.
evidences is the only thing, that counts. and don't worry, nobody has ever found any evidence against evolution.
User avatar #298 to #242 - xishnik
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i was only using the pope as an example of someone who is highly religious and accepts evolution to be the way that people came to be as well as all the variations in species. The fact that the highest order of the catholic church believes in it, and that people out there completely ignore his opinion, and all of the data is simply sad.
User avatar #299 to #298 - satakas
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i understand you but by the way - i personally think, that pope's agreeing with evolution just shows, that either he has/had no balls...OR...he just renounced his recent beliefs.

I'm still holding the point, that according to the bible evolution is impossible and you cant believe both bible AND evolution. if you do, you just have weak mind or even weaker faith.
User avatar #218 to #214 - lordmoldywart
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Catholicism is the laughing stock of Christianity so I can see why many people don't listen to the pope
User avatar #213 to #211 - xishnik
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yea, exactly. but why put so much effort to make the claim of this existence then spend time in investing in churches, and have religion play a huge role in the decisiveness in our government and how laws are edicted into place. THAT is why we need to spend time asking these questions.
User avatar #216 to #213 - lordmoldywart
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If private investors want to put money into building churches then fine, just don't expect the tax payer to pay for it.

If you're an American, you'd know that religion is not allowed to play a role in politics (according to the constitution), it's only in 3rd world countries that religion plays an active role in government
User avatar #245 to #216 - satakas
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and in america (well, in most western countries) churches are also tax free for some curious reason :-s
for me this is the clear sign, that then NO religion should be let to politics.
User avatar #219 to #216 - xishnik
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its not allowed to, but guess what? polices regarding gay marriage, stem cell research, and anything regarding basic morality derived from theistic dogma FOR SURE plays a role in the government. THE word GOD is in the pledge of allegiance that children are supposed to recite in the morning. BLeh
User avatar #222 to #219 - lordmoldywart
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They can persuade the government just like any other pressure group, but they're not the ones making the end decisions.
#246 to #222 - satakas
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yeah? sure about that?
yeah? sure about that?
User avatar #256 to #246 - lordmoldywart
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That was just for TV, he wouldn't be allowed to go to war on a gut instinct, he'd have a legitimate reason
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User avatar #40 - roliga
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"Boy that atheist I met the other day was nice and not a total dick head about everything."

Said no one, ever.
#85 - sircool
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"My arms grew back!" -said no one ever.   
   
really? Religious people can't use their logic, but yet your impossible logic here is better?
"My arms grew back!" -said no one ever.

really? Religious people can't use their logic, but yet your impossible logic here is better?
User avatar #125 to #85 - jlyoung
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It's an extreme example,as in the kid with no arms prays for new ones but his prayers are obviously not answered because that's impossible.Basically prayer doesn't work.
#132 to #125 - rollertoaster
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What? So praying for impossible things doesn't work, so, by definition, no prayer works?
What? So praying for impossible things doesn't work, so, by definition, no prayer works?
User avatar #137 to #132 - jlyoung
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Well it's meant as an extreme example,but yeah, prayer doesn't really do anything.It's like sugar pills as a cancer cure, it just makes people feel better.
User avatar #143 to #137 - rollertoaster
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Yes, that's sort of it. My belief is that you won't be rewarded if you pray for physical things, like, say arms, or, in a less extreme example, to recover from an illness. But, God can grant strength or other mental boons to aid in recovery... He can't make himself or his work to obvious. It reminds me of that episode of Futurama, where Bender becomes the god to a group of people living on him after he gets catapulted into space. There's a quote, something to the effect of "if you do everything right, people won't know you're doing anything at all."
User avatar #193 to #143 - xishnik
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mental boons? thats a psychological recovery, not a miracle. that has to do with things that actually exist.
User avatar #199 to #193 - rollertoaster
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Look, if you're going to be an asshole about it, fine. I won't stop you.
User avatar #151 to #143 - jlyoung
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That's kind of how I thought about back when I was religious.
Whatever you want to believe that's fine, just don't go expecting miracles just because you ask.
User avatar #152 to #151 - rollertoaster
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I fully respect your beliefs and your opinions, but that's just the thing- I don't expect miracles.
User avatar #155 to #152 - jlyoung
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That's cool,sorry if it looks like I'm trying to force my world view on you,I'd just prefer people to think realistically.
User avatar #160 to #155 - rollertoaster
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Okay. Nice discussing with you!
User avatar #235 to #137 - satakas
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if you have a cancer and you eat sugar - does it really make you feel better? even if you don't know it's sugar, you eat
User avatar #144 to #137 - MysticTomatoe
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thats because people pray with doubts in their hearts. Of course God wont make the little child's arms grow back, because God doesnt interfere with the nature he created. If the kid wa sborn like that then he has a purpose to have been born like that.
User avatar #243 to #144 - satakas
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"God doesnt interfere with the nature he created"
so....who was the dude, who flooded the earth? if it wasn't god, then i have A LOT of other interference questions in my sleeve.
User avatar #260 to #243 - MysticTomatoe
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ok, you seem to have questioned every single comment i've made here. First the Bible isnt meant to explain things scientifically. Second, the people of that time havent yet discovered the new world. The area where they lived wa sbetween two great rivers that flooded the whole area, which was the known world to them. Many of the things that appear in the Bible are to be taken simbolically. for example Adan and Even, they didn't exist, they represent the first group of humans (or homo sapiens sapiens) and how was that sin entered the world.
User avatar #190 to #144 - xishnik
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jesus christ was a interference with the natural way of being accordin to the bible. suck it christianity.
User avatar #149 to #144 - jlyoung
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So god is the kind of asshole who would let a kid go armless because he was "meant to be that way?"
User avatar #169 to #149 - MysticTomatoe
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no, hes not an "asshole".

God created the universe, created Earth and he created us. If our genes have mutations there are two reasons "either we caused it, or God decided to do it like that". If we caused it then God can't interfer because we have "free will".

But what he CAN do is give support and peace to the kid and his family to be able to live with the difficulties
User avatar #236 to #169 - satakas
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so...he doesnt heal the amputated arms of a little girl who lost them in a terrible accident despite all the prayers. BUT. he sometimes answers other prayers. like "dear god, please let our team win the superbowl" or "dear god, please lead our army to the victory in this holy war" and things like that?

or do you want to say, that he actually NEVER answers the prayers because "things have to go as they are meant"? so why people still pray? why priests lie to them, that god hears them and helps them if they pray?

and the first place: who are YOU that you know what god does and doesn't?
User avatar #177 to #169 - jlyoung
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Well I don't think "Free Will" applies to genetics or accidental occurances.If god truly had the power to regrow the boys arms, he has no excuse not to.
User avatar #183 to #177 - MysticTomatoe
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well you are free to believe what you want, as i am to believe what i want too. :)
User avatar #192 to #183 - xishnik
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Unicorns, lollipop land, and banana rainbows allllllllll the way
User avatar #184 to #183 - jlyoung
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Okay,I just personally feel the idea of praying for the impossible is silly,but if it comforts you then that's great.
User avatar #203 to #184 - MysticTomatoe
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no, not like that either. I didnt meant that we could pray for anything. Personally i think that you shouldn't pray for material things, because sometimes we don't know what is good for us or what we need, but rather I pray for patience and understanding, to be able to comprehend and accept the things that happen.
User avatar #237 to #203 - satakas
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but then, sometimes, we know, what is good for us. right?
and before answering please find out, what is a "special plea fallacy"
User avatar #204 to #203 - jlyoung
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Hey,whatever works for you.
User avatar #205 to #204 - MysticTomatoe
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xD ok ok
User avatar #189 to #132 - xishnik
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YEP
#1 - lamnad
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Actually it has been reported of people having arms, hands teeth and legs grow back after prayer, there were even doctors present at one. I've seen it happen Still, I doubt that anyone who is doubtful that a headache would go away would believe me.
User avatar #22 to #1 - onearmedfreak
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i have have one arm and still haven't experienced any miracles
#31 to #1 - galkawhm
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User avatar #2 to #1 - themrawesome
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I get what you are trying to see, but you need to word it differently.
User avatar #20 to #2 - vampireinarm
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i want ot make babies with your profile gif
User avatar #3 to #2 - lamnad
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well it seemed well written when I finished but I now see what you are talking about, that up there is a bit of a grammar nightmare.

Actually, it has been reported of people having arms, hands, teeth and legs grow back after prayer. There were even doctors present at one. I've seen it happen. Still, I doubt that anyone who is doubtful that a headache would go away would believe me.
User avatar #4 to #3 - revanmal
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I'm pretty sure that such an event would make national news. People would believe you if you presented some proof of your claim.
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User avatar #8 to #1 - captainplanetz
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send a link. or STFU !!
User avatar #28 to #1 - arearea
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you're not just wrong,
you're stupid
User avatar #9 to #1 - icedmantwo
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take pictures of such an event and post them along with a news article from a respected news publication and post it all here along with pictures of your tits
#18 to #1 - semisane
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Amazing miracles happen all the time for people who pray. No pictures or videos and nobody who isn't a Christian to verify claims.
#10 to #1 - anonymoose
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Congratulations.

If you can prove, under scientific conditions, that this actually occurred [or any miracles, for that matter] then this man [James Randi] will give you $1,000,000.

Hop on the phone bro! PM me when you get the money.
http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html
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#56 - heartlessrobot
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Well, science barely has prosthetics. Meanwhile, my blind Pastafarianist friend recently began to see.

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