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Tattoo of Leviticus 18: 22 forbidding homosexuality:
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#2 - whatugawkinat

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(07/18/2012) [-]

False: It only forbids homosexuality on one day out of the year.

#265 to #2 - waaw

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(07/18/2012) [-]

Yeah... that's not true. I have no idea where you got that from. The interpretation I follow is that homosexuality is allowed, but there's really no way to read it where it's only forbidden one day.

#277 to #265 - whatugawkinat

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(07/18/2012) [-]

The entire verse and surrounding chapters regard an entire list of things specifically not to do on the day of the sacrifice (one day). I read it, re-read it and read it again. Homosexuality is fine (not to mention natural) but it was not to be done the day of sacrifice spoken of throughout the book of Leviticus. It's clearly stated and understood once you read the chapters and verses in their correct context. I'm not trying to sound arrogant or insult you, but read it again with that in mind. Read from the the entire chapter and several chapters surrounding it and you will see.

#296 to #277 - waaw

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(07/18/2012) [-]

There's really no reason to assume that those verses apply only on Yom Kippur which was mentioned in chapter 16. That part stands as its own list of prohibitions.

#310 to #296 - whatugawkinat

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(07/19/2012) [-]

I don't have the bible handy, but I'm unsure of the different versions and what they say. The KJV is what I've always used. My interpretations seems to be agreed with 100+ people here alone, and quite opposite with countless others. To me, it's clear that homosexuality is in the list with things that were an abominations to be done done on that one day. As for the rest, I didn't look too hard into that. The homosexuality debate baffles me so upon careful, honest and thorough reading I found the common misconception of homosexuality being a permanent sin to be false. That is however ONE reference, I wish I could find the other references to homosexuality so I can figure it out.

#318 to #310 - waaw

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(07/19/2012) [-]

As far as I know, that is no other reference to homosexuality in the Bible. Definitely not in the Tanakh. I don't really get the debate that much either. Anyways, I don't really see how you can read it that way, but if you think so, I'm not going to argue with you I guess. It's just that I've never heard any rabbinic authority that reads it like that.

#329 to #318 - whatugawkinat

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(07/19/2012) [-]

I believe we have different scriptures we're dealing with. From what I've heard the KJV and the Tanakh are identical, but the chapters, verses and books are not in the same order. Thus my interpretation for the KJV is correct....for that version. Yours however must be correct for the order of scripture in the Tanakh. No need to argue my fiend, we all live in the same world and must all find out our own truths.

#290 to #277 - eyeballfrog

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(07/18/2012) [-]

Read it. Still not seeing your interpretation. Chapter 16 deals with the day of atonement. Chapter 17 might deal with that, but by Chapter 18 we're pretty clearly out of it. Chapter 19 is restating the 10 Commandments, which are clearly meant to be followed on more than one day.

#305 to #290 - whatugawkinat

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(07/19/2012) [-]

That seems to be the problem, one can read it and obtain their own interpretations and others reading the same passage can view it completely differently. It's not like I'm trying to disprove common interpretations and bending my interpretations to suit. That's simply what I understood from the passage.

#311 to #305 - waaw

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(07/19/2012) [-]

I understand that you could in theory interpret it that way, but there's ways to interpret nearly anything in strange ways. It's pretty clearly divided with 16, 17 and 18 being separate statements by each of them beginning with a separate "And god said to Moses"

#9 to #2 - madeyegubbins

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(07/18/2012) [-]

well I never really do anything on Mondays anyway.

#6 - fortehlulzing

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(07/18/2012) [-]

If you want to know something about the Bible, don't ask a Christian, ask an atheist. (Just a little joke, don't hate me...)

#7 to #6 - zodiacleon

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(07/18/2012) [-]

Amen *wink wink*

#47 to #6 - I Am Monkey

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(07/18/2012) [-]

Where do atheists get this idea that they know more about a book that they hate than people who study and follow it. Most atheists who claim this just know a handful of mostly out of context Old Testament quotes that they've only learned via google search for the sake of arguing.

#79 to #47 - HARDSTYLESHUFFLER

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(07/18/2012) [-]

A lot, and I mean a LOT, of atheists read the bible. Not because they believe in what it teaches or whatnot, but to put it plainly, you have to know your enemy to fight your enemy. Exactly as you said, the atheists who only know what they know about the bible from things like OP's picture aren't really smart.

#126 to #79 - anon id: edc3ff05

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(07/18/2012) [-]

It really shows how disturbed you people are that you call someone who has different beliefs than you "the enemy".
I don't hate atheists in general, but I do hate the sort of atheists that seem to make up the majority on this site; the pious, assholes with their heads lodged so far up their own digestive tract that they see no parallels between the caricature ignorant evangelical Christians you hate so much and your own belligerent online crusades against everyone that disagrees with you.

#273 to #126 - bloodyspy

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(07/18/2012) [-]

"Knowing your enemy" is just an expression. Calm your tits. Everyone loves intelligent christians that doesn't shove religion down their throats, and can see clear difference.

#146 to #47 - PoisinSandwich

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I am not an athiest, but i went to a catholic school where i knew there were athiests. I really do not know why they went to school there but some learn it from their school. And others could have been forced to go to church and they hated it so much when they turned into a teenager they pushed away from it.

#127 to #47 - captaincabinet **User deleted account**

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#89 to #47 - fortehlulzing

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(07/18/2012) [-]

I've read the Bible twice now...not all atheists are just quoting the Bible for the sake of cutting down religion. Some of us are actually quite educated.

#142 to #47 - Godz

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Some read the bible to actually try to understand what Christianity is at its finest and not what some preacher who just wants you to pass him a donation says. Its from here Atheist have the option to directly deny their belief of Christianity having fully understood it.

However there are the assholes that read it only help fuel their attacks on Christianity which lets face it is no better than the Christians who smear their Jesus covered nuts in your face and ram a cross up your ass

#107 to #47 - kerplunking

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(07/18/2012) [-]

Atheists and agnostics are the most knowledgeable on religion.

articles.latimes.com/2010/sep/28/nation/la-na-religion-survey-20100928

#128 to #107 - anon id: edc3ff05

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(07/18/2012) [-]

I don't know how accurate that survey is. A lot of people who identify as Christian just do so because they went to church as a kid. Those people make up a large demographic and know next to nothing about the religion.

#39 to #6 - bobcoolz

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(07/18/2012) [-]

Ha ha I love that.

Here, have one of my atheist pictures (I'm an atheist, it's fun to laugh at your beliefs sometimes)

#20 - badpeace

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(07/18/2012) [-]

Hello everybody. I will now explain to you why most christians today are not any problem in technological and social progress.

Please note that this is only SOME christians, and i know alot of christians are also stupid fags who are against evolution, gene research, gay marriage, etc, but i wish to talk about the group of christians, including me, who dont mind these things.

First of all, i dont believe half of the **** in the bible, i know it was written by humans, and i know it is heavily biased/filled with lies. What i do with the bible is instead to understand it on my own moral way, and see it as a way of how to live a good life where you can respect any other human being. Some say christians are bad because the bible sais "gay marriage is not allowed" and more **** like that, but it was all written by humans! I know myself, as i have read through the entire bible once, the head and overriding rule over them all is simple, and it is the one i wish to live by; love your next (other people) like you love yourself. Not "burn gay people" and "stop technological progress" - i believe in science, and my future is maybe becoming a scientist within the area of physics.

Second of all, about the "god doesnt exist" stuff. Fine, you can believe that he doesnt exist. I can see myself why you would believe that. Just know 2 things; absence of proof is not proof of absence, and i merely choose to believe that he exists, yet in a special not-yet-explained way.

Third of all, i dont see god as a punisher and a granter, he is what he is shown like in this picture; i believe he protects me, i believe that he is helping my life, and i forgive him when a stone gets past him. That is merely a way for me to get through hard situations; believing that a spiritual father is protecting me and helping. And dont get me wrong here, i have plenty of friends and family to support me too. I just have a second spiritual father with me.

Last of all; Lets all just believe what we want.

#42 to #20 - ishalltroll

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(07/18/2012) [-]

I stop at the part where you said you read the whole bible once right now and salute you for actually staying sane reading all that ******* ********.

#43 to #20 - ishalltroll

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(07/18/2012) [-]

Right I'm through now.
God is a punisher and a granter, unfortunately he pretty much punished me to the worst when I was 8 and ruined everything. **** god, he's an absolute ******* bag of **** if he does exist.

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#168 to #20 - stripeygreenhat

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(07/18/2012) [-]

I'm happy that you love and tolerate others. However, the one flaw I find in your point is that you believe that God loves and helps YOU. What about the people in third world countries nearly 1 billion people in the world who suffer from malnutrition? Or the 34 million people who suffer from HIV/AIDS?

I apologize for being pugnacious. I just find myself apprehensive towards those who say things such as "Wow! I knew God was on my side during that semifinal game! Thank you Lord for helping me out!"

#349 to #168 - badpeace

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I really have no explanation, but perhaps when i become older i will understand it.

For now, the only reason i could imagine is due to them not being christians, but thats stupid as god told us to love everyone.

Thanks for the reply, nonetheless. Thumbed your -1 up to 0. =)

#21 to #20 - badpeace

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And religious people saying technological progress is illegal because their god tells them to, are retards.

#61 to #20 - nobodyhere

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I am all for you believing what you want to believe but is the bible not the only source for Christianity? If you take out the Bible then what basis do you have for your beliefs. You cannot really be a Christian if you don't believe in the Bible. If you are going to look at the Bible and ignore the parts that you think are bad yet embrace the parts that you think are good then why not do away with the Bible and be a good person without it. The fact that you could come to the conclusion that certain parts of the Bible were wrong and certain parts were right shows that you had an innate moral compass in the first place. You basically read the Bible and embraced whatever moral teachings that agreed with your previous innate moral values.

tl;dr - bible gets its morals from humans not vice versa, so why not do away with the bible completely and be good without god.

#67 to #61 - badpeace

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Thing is, i still use the bible, even some of the crappy parts. I just try to translate it, and see the meaning of the stories, e.x. "The babyl tower where god gave the workers different languages" sounds stupid, but i try to understand it as "We shall not strive towards becoming larger than anyone else, rather should we know that everyone is equal." You will understand me if you read the story :P

#114 to #67 - failboatz

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(07/18/2012) [-]

I'm just going to give my two cents about the subject, knowing I'll get thumbed down and bring a ********** along with it. But here we go.

To be a Christian and not believe in the Bible is impossible, the whole point of being a Christian is that you believe in the Bible and believe Jesus died on the cross to save us from our sins and eternal damnation.

If you read the Bible it even says in it that to take away from the Bible or to add to the Bible is a sin, which in the old testament God punished by death. And that to be a true believer of God or a Christian, you must believe all of the Bible.

And the Bible also says not to judge others for their beliefs, even if they aren't the same as yours. I in now way judge people if they are gay or if they believe in evolution, even i'm not a evolutionist or gay myself.

The people that still believe in the old testament say all gays are fags and they all deserve hell. But what they don't understand is that Jesus came to bring forgiveness and grace. That's why I always thought West-Burro was stupid and needed to re-read the Bible. They themselves are what people see as being a Christian, but technically they are disobeying the Bible themselves.

I'm just confused as of how you can believe parts of the Bible, then say the rest are
********. Those are my thoughts, not trying to stir **** up.

#71 to #67 - nobodyhere

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In the story, they were not trying to become larger than anyone. They were working together as one in the name of progress but God stops their progress because he wants to be larger than everyone.

#78 to #71 - badpeace

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Actually, (Well, in the version that i heard) They made the tower solely so they could "Be as high as god". But i might remember wrong, not entirely sure.

#350 to #78 - nobodyhere

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So the moral of the story is that we should not try to become higher than anyone all whilst groveling before god and saying that he is higher than everyone. God sounds like a dictator to me.

#351 to #350 - badpeace

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Thing is, god is not to be percieved as a person, rather as a spirit that follows us all, not commanding us all. God just didn't want man to become too fond of himself, and wanted man to be humble.

#352 to #351 - nobodyhere

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Firstly, you should emphasize which God you are talking about when referring to "God" because when you talk about the qualities and nature of God, you could be referring to Allah, Jehovah, Krishna, Thor, Zeus etc. For sake of argument, I am going to assume that you are talking about the Christian god. If you read the bible, it is evident that the Christian god is a dictator. He suffers people to eternal torture for not worshiping him. Sounds like Kim Jung Il but worse. Secondly, if the God you are talking about is some guiding spirit, what right does he have to tell me what to do? Just because he created me does not mean that he has the right to dictate my life. I also find it a bit strange that in this modern age where we have built skyscrapers and aircraft that can reach the highest altitudes of the earth and beyond and where people humanity is more confident and proud of itself than ever, God suddenly does not seem to care. All of a sudden he is tired of smiting. He also seems to have migrated because the tower of babylon which he destroyed for getting close to him goes nowhere as high as some of today's aircraft and yet, when we go in an airplane and achieve altitudes of 35,000 feet, we still see no sign of any God.

#26 to #20 - hattaz

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(07/18/2012) [-]

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#38 to #20 - badpeace

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Hey, for the "Shown in the picture", here is the pic, i uploaded the wrong one.

I used the nearly same text a couple of days back when discussing this pic which was posted. I saw this religious post and the ************************* in the comments, so i decided to try to calm people down and spread the message abit.

#65 to #38 - nobodyhere

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(07/18/2012) [-]

This would make sense if God was not omnipotent but he is all powerful and all knowing so it should be not strain for him to take away all our problems by just willing it.

#104 to #65 - blahdudeblah

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Problem, God gave man the power to defy him. God gave man the ability to go "HEY GOD! **** YOU!"

When some dumbass shoots you while trying to rob you, it isn't God aiming the bullet, its a dumbass ******* things up.

#44 to #20 - hobocow

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(07/18/2012) [-]

My only issue with religious people is the fact that I have asked many of them this following question:
If aliens come along, and show 100% proof that their religion is correct, would you still believe in Christianity, or whatever religion you are.

I got the majority of my answers as "No, it is a test from god and I wouldn't believe it." or "It is the devil trying to corrupt me"

This type of thinking is a plague. If you think like that then you will never see proof, but just a test. That is anti-progressive and it makes me sick.

If you need something to believe in to get you through the day, by all means go for it. If you refuse to admit you are wrong when you are proven wrong, then you are the cancer of the world.

Not referring to you, just ranting about those type of people.

#46 to #44 - badpeace

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I understand what you mean, and i would never EVER answer something like "eet es test frum god"

I believe in christianity as a form of lifestyle, but if proof and science is against it, i will be against it too.

Thanks for the comment tho, i see what you mean. We need to stop this irrational thinking :/

#28 to #20 - mckraken

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(07/18/2012) [-]

You're the kind of religious guy I respect.
Not hateful on others for different beliefs, you understand science and etc.

Hero man.

#145 - orangezombie

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(07/18/2012) [-]

why would ANYBODY even get a tattoo of that. Does it matter that ******* much to get it as a tattoo? Is he that butthurt about gay people? ******* idiots, man.

#147 to #145 - OldSnake

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Oh, the irony about being butthurt over gay people.

#156 to #147 - bitchplzzz

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UNLESS.. You just happen to drop the soap during your time

#197 to #156 - bemmo

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#293 to #147 - orangezombie

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I wouldn't get a tattoo about homophobia.

#153 - lordsothe

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(07/18/2012) [-]

Technically that passage only forbids guy on guy, not girl on girl.

#180 to #153 - OldSnake

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(07/18/2012) [-]

I like what you say, and I like the way you say it...

#166 to #153 - cometfire

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(07/18/2012) [-]

He's right.

#160 to #153 - shishabar

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(07/18/2012) [-]

Good... Good....

#267 - neverrollsdubs

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inb4 gonna get red thumbs for being a Christian and showing my opinion.

Leviticus is simply old Jewish laws that Christians had to live by before Jesus Christ came down and died for us. If you actually have read the entire New Testament (Especially the 4 gospels; Matthew, Mark, Luke, John) Jesus clearly explains that he has come down to abolish the old law and to set down one simple law. To love Jesus and love others.

#285 to #267 - anon id: 3fe6a262

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That passage is my excuse for not getting a tattoo. other than i'm a pussy.

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#303 to #294 - anon id: ae202c0a

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the way i see it yes its a sin, but what makes it worse than anything i've done i've probably committed several of the seven deadly sins on numerous occasions and most dont hold that against me so why should we hold it against gays

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#302 to #267 - ZenMacros

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If the old law was abolished, then why are the Ten Commandments still in play? Not arguing, it's just something I've always wondered.

#307 to #302 - ramie

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The 10 commandments are no long in play, simply used as an example.

#313 to #307 - ZenMacros

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Ohhhh I gotcha. Thank you.

#328 to #302 - MysticTomatoe

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well they kind of sum up in the 2 that Jesus said: "Love God above all things and others as you love yourself" Simple, if you love someone you wont steal from them, or kill them, or rape them, etc etc

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#320 to #267 - voltrak

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people like you need to talk more often so people can realize that not all Christians are the assholes that attempt to force religion

its also funny cuz 8i8le says its wwrong to force religion

#353 to #267 - anon id: 398033a7

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According to your comment, Christians existed before Jesus? Lolwut?

#274 to #267 - cometfire

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Yup. Love Jehovah, Love Jesus, Love yourself, and Love each other.

The last one is the hardest.

#203 - newmemebringsjoy

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(07/18/2012) [-]

Generic anti-Christianity post.

Good, I'll be going now.

#209 to #203 - anon id: 00f96f2b

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It's not anti christian, it's anti hypocrite. OP didn't say he shouldn't believe in god, he said he's stupid for picking and choosing which parts he wants to listen to.

#214 to #209 - anon id: 5eebf805

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It's on the Atheism channel. I wonder what OP is?....

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#220 to #219 - Keithazoid [OP]

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Yes... I am Muslim

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#172 - teenytinyspider

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(07/18/2012) [-]

Uh oh! Someone mentioned religion! I may be too late posting this!

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#206 to #172 - whatugawkinat

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You are too late, many atheists and christian casualties have already been recorded. The battle rages on soldier, choose your side for tonight we dine in Applebee's.

#23 - newprinny

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(07/18/2012) [-]

Get a tattoo of Leviticus 19:28 on your arm instead, dood

#3 - misssunday

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That passage of Leviticus refers to Pagan rituals of marking ones skin in mourning of the death of a family member. This does not apply. I am sick of some atheists quoting bible verses just for the sole intent of cutting down religion, without knowing first what was meant originally. "Idiot"

#19 to #3 - breadstickez

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(07/18/2012) [-]

www.biblebelievers.com/watkins_tattoos/bible.html

That is an entire website set to convince you tattoos are wrong according to the bible. Not that I believe any of that ****, and I'm sure there are websites proving the opposite, but its quite amusing to read.

#11 to #3 - anon id: 97cfa7dc

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"You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the LORD."
But it does apply. Of course it does. So does the passage about women shutting the **** up in church. And no sick, handicapped or sight impaired people can go to church at all. I full well realize why christians have to bend the words of the bible as far as thy can to even function in society... But guess what I am sick of? Some christians quoting bible verses for the sole intent of making it seem like it means anything they want it to.

#36 to #11 - verby

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Technically, any Christian quoting Leviticus is wrong. Leviticus deals with the Law of Moses, which is what Moses had on his stone tablets when he came down from Mount Zion. When Jesus came to Earth, he enacted the Law of Christ, which has only two commandments: love God and love your neighbor. So really, large chuncks of Moses' Law have no place with those two commandments. Which is why Jewish dietary restrictions are ignored, and we don't run around stoning people for random ****

#4 to #3 - Keithazoid [OP]

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(07/18/2012) [-]

I was refering to someone getting a tattoo thats anti-gay. I really wish everyone would just get along

#5 to #4 - misssunday

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(07/18/2012) [-]

Fixed =)