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No, it is still plant matter only the carbon is much more concentrated. Burn a few different things and look at the ashes. The different is very visible. It is still a stick only now, it is millions of smaller forms.
**anonymous used "*roll picture*"** **anonymous rolled image** I never like the loop holes people will go through just to make the stick win, if it can't be beat but I can't beat anything then it doesn't win ever but it never loses. Opm won't win either but he'd make it into pieces and then it would be slinters and twigs making it no longer a stick which is the closest thing to winning with out loophole
if he throws it into the sun then than there is no ash left. there is nothing (yeah maybe gas, but the gravity of the sun wouldnt let that gas go) so saitama wins
You've changed it's molecular composition but the ash was still formed from the stick so it's still fair game. The only way to "beat" this stupid **** is to hit it with something stupider like "1 marine trips on the stick and dies, the 999 marines put all of their effort into a space program to send the stick into a black hole so it becomes no more and they will have avenged their 1 marine buddy. Marines win every time."
**anonymous used "*roll picture*"** **anonymous rolled image**But the stick was formed from a tree which formed from earth but then earth formed humans and opm so matter wins since anti matter was destroyed leaving us with the matter we have now meaning that by matter coming out supreme in the matter war makes everything the winner
>999 of anyone without any of them having chemical, mechanical, electrical or aerospace engineering degrees.
>building a spacecraft that leaves the atmosphere, let alone reaches a ******* black hole
Ya... not really gonna happen. I mean has nasa ever even sent matter into a black hole?
I know that's his hand but it made me think of this also he could punch something else with the hand the mosquito is on thereby killing the mosquito without destroying his own hand
I don't understand how everyone is like OH OPM VS GOKU?!!?? Goku gets his **** kicked in no doubt! But when it was Superman VS Goku everyone was 100% against supes. Which is odd since OPM and Supes both have infinite strength, super durability and can move insanely fast only major difference is supes can do other stuff to. Im going to blame the JL animated series for showing such a horrid representation of superman that and it's probably all comes down to popularity in fiction battles /shrug
supes doesnt have infinite strength, just like saitama doesnt, although if what one said is true, the fact that saitamas one serious strong punch is half the power of big bang, than saitama is definitely stronger than post crisis superman.
Actually, post-crisis superman has lifted a book with infinite pages.
How much does an infinite amount of paper weigh?
Well...literally an infinite amount of weight.
So Superman actually has literally infinite strength. Of course, he also has as much strength as the writers say he needs to win. So asking who wins in a fight between The Man who Always Wins and The Man Who Always Wins comes down to "What happens when an immovable object collides with an irresistible force?"
supes is super strong, but not infinite. dude gets his **** kicked in by magic attacks, doomsday and dark seid, the last two are just bare fists/lazer eyes.
Are you joking? Supes lifted a book of infinite pages... That's infinite right there... Also his weakness to magic attacks is just having no resistances to it like other types of attacks. Doomsday was younger superman who hadn't reached his peak at the time and Darkseid is a god who went toe to toe with the anti monitor that is a beyond fathomable feat right there
I'm with you man. Supes has no limits. Batman wins because of a rock. Wonder woman wins because Supes had his power stolen. Supes can melt brains, turn back time, and is able to fly at 900,000 times faster than the speed of light. As I understand it OPM cant move that fast and he cant punch ENTIRE galaxies into nothing.
And supes killed entire multiverses. as in Multiple universes at a time. Whats your point? OPM isn't modular dude. Superman is as strong or as weak as the person who makes his comic/cartoon at the time. That's why he wins every fight. Get angry or whatever. Just understand that its never a fair fight with supes. He's always changing to meet the opposition. That's how it works. That's how HE works. He's a ****** god man, and at one point WAS a god. I could give a **** less about superman don't get me wrong. But even I know that he isn't fair and that nothing should be pit up against him. He's ******** . Now OPM and Goku? That would be a fight worth debating. I personally say Goku because that whole super sayan god thing but that's just me.
his argument is so funny "Supes cant lose because creator will just make him strgoner" Like one punch mans creator literally made him to be stronger than anyone, whats stopping him from making him stronger than super man? How can you even use the author changing his strengths as an argument? eggs is retarded.
Also hly **** sircool, I knew your name looked familiar, I remember way back in like 2010 or ******** you, me, and a couple other people were trying to become OC creators, needless to say we never really tried and failed horribly but long time no see.
no limits fallacy. theres no such a thing as unlimited strength (and this shouldnt really be hard to understand when we are talking about a pure physical character and not reality warpers), infinite book lifting or not, otherwise you are saying superman can bend reality with physicall strength alone when the only time he was able to do that was with his pre crisis self when the state of space and time was at its limits. comic book writers often come up with **** like that without knowing what they are doing for the plot, later retconing them. the infinite pages book is the same. it has never ever been stated normal superman has infinite strength and until it is mentioned as such, the lifting that magical book is explained only by "its magical so it having infinite pages doesnt mean it has infinite weight"
that death battle **** has gotten people believing in stupid **** .
infinite mass=infinite weight boss if it where truly magic than it would of been weightless. supes after his 5 day bench pressing spree lifted the equivalent of the solar system and complained about it not weighing anything. Than he also towed both the earth and an entire solar system through space once again with no struggle at all and lifted the spectre who is once again infinite go be an anon fag somewhere else
If wonder woman can kick supermans ass and batman supposedly can beat superman then Goku would ripe supermans ass in half. Goku punched someone so hard he almost collapsed the universe back into itself. IDGAF how powerful you think superman is he isn't doing **** like that.
His name's Tatsuya.
He has one spell that would be probably capable of killing Saitamamahouka-koukou-no-rettousei.wikia.com/wiki/Material_Burst, unless he's capable of surviving literal annihilation of of all atoms his body is build of.
That of course requires catching him off-guard, good luck with that.
And the 1,5 gigaton of TNT equivalent explosion would be problem too.
He's .... He's pretty strong you know... Like he disintgrates people and is treated as an alternative to a nuclear missile that can fire shots repeatedly... Also he regenerates from any injury instantly. Saitama would destroy that bitch
Not exactly instantly and yeah he is strong. But compared to these other guys, not really..
We could tell them what they are capable of - like goku being able to destroy planets.
but it's simply silly to argue it when they are from different universes.
Well, he can more or less revive from dead, and also revive other people from dead without any effort. So I guess he is a good support? Also nukes are pretty sick.
The only fight stick would lose. Usually, you break stick, and now you have two stick. Stick then overwhelms the opponent. When OPM punches stick, now there is no stick. Only a vacuum where stick once stood.
The superman argument is boring and tired out. OPM is a parody character, plainly stated Superman is not. That is my main problem with Superman, he only loses when it is convenient or the writer is trying to make an interesting comic by showing that he can actually lose. If OPM had no parody elements it would just be a show about a really serious guy who wins all the time due to his insanely large power level. (SUPERMAN) I'm sure there are tons of fans of Superman out there, I personally find him to be a generic and overall boring character to watch.
Superman actually loses a ton of times, both in physical battles and in "fights" against intangible concepts. His rogues gallery is filled with characters much more powerful that he beats or escapes from by the skin of his teeth. Hell, he isn't even the most powerful member of the Justice League, let alone the entire DC multiverse (assuming we're talking about current mainstream comics Superman, but even his most powerful incarnations get absolutely *********** by DC's top tiers)
People who don't make an effort to learn about the characters are the reason why so many superheroes don't get the recognition they deserve
Yeah? But can this One Punch Fraud stand up to the champ? Or will the great Mr. Satan succumb to Saitama's dirty tricks? Let the Roll Gods determine that let me see some trips!
In what ******* universe does Deadpool represent autistic people? I've read the comics and he's not as random as you think, he does what he wants to do and he's actually pretty smart, he's called the Merc with a Mouth for a reason. Read a book
Wow Jesus Christ struck a nerve there now didn't I?
First of all child, sit the **** down in that chair right there and ruminate, while I illuminate.
When I say autistic, I mean the socially awkward autistic. You know, the ones that intentionally dress up as him at conventions just to pass off social awkwardness or annoyance as normal behavior.
Hell not even at conventions, it's like it's become an equivalent excuse of cat ears and people going "Nyah, I'm so random" and all that **** .
That's what I'm talkin' about.
The character himself is pretty alright but it's the fans that abuse the **** out of his image that brings him down immensely in my opinion. Sure you should never let fanbases bring down your enjoyment of something but it's really ******* hard when it's all over the god damned place.
Surely SOMEONE knows what I'm talking about.
I mean, it wouldn't really be much of a fight. It would be Deadpool running up, getting splattered all over everything, taking a week to regenerate from the bloody mist he had become, and repeating the process ad infinitum. Guns and swords have been shown to be useless against OPM, as are explosives, so he'd really have no actual way of harming him, and would eventually get bored and move on to something else after his 10th loss or so.
To all you guys saying Goku can beat Saitama or whatever, you do realize the point of the character is to make fun of OP characters like Superman and Goku, being the strongest hero alive, so he would most likely defeat them in a single punch. That's the point of his character.
Here's my take on the Superduper VS Mono Slap Chap. Prepare for a fricken read because I write words lots. Lets settle this once and for all. OPM VS Anyone. We'll use Superman since he can easily beat anyone anyway. (Just to summarize, OPM would beat Goku like it was nothing. Goku can not move nearly as fast as OPM. Instant Transmission, I've only seen it used over small distances and he uses a seemingly much slower mode of transportation for long distances IE flying. Not to mention Goku has limits right now. They can be retconned and he can be made stronger but we've seen him and other people around his powerlevel get blown the **** out.)
First we define the extent of their strengths. Superman = Infinite with some clauses. OPM = ???? Infinite????
A weird way to look at it but there are various things that effect Supermans strengths and he has known weaknesses. Anyone with half a brain probably knows Supermans weakness if your in the hero world, which OPM would be apart of. BUT Saitama wouldn't use that, he'd see no reason. Superman has Kyrptonite and the sun essentially feeds him. No sun = Not full strength, radioactive rock = mortal(?). OPM has no known weaknesses other than just not caring enough to go full strength right off the bat. He got beaten around by Carnage Kabuto but got out of it unscathed and in one punch when he realized something unrelating to the fight. What do we know of the extents of these two people? Superman once lifted apparently everything ever, and destroyes muliverses, and OPM author has apparently noted that he could destroy half the universe in a single punch and the only reason the other half isn't destroyed is because his apartment is there. Superman can apparently go across the universe in mere seconds, OPM once went as fast as Mach 70,000 without breaking a sweat (went from moon and back in seconds).
So OPM seems a little out of his league....right? Well, sort of yeah. The thing is, OPM doesn't have the history Superman does. He doesn't have 1 million comics explaining how great he is. But, there were times Superman was weaker, different universes and such. He wasn't this humongous monstrosity of a gary stu god all the time. ******* Lex Luthor can fight on par with him and he's just some smart asshole with a suit (also radioactive rocks because he has a known weakness!!!) So I feel like we need to look at this differently. **** feats, we need to look at this from a core concept because everyones just gonna bring up that one time Superman did that one thing therefore he can easily do it again.
Superman = Gary Stu, ma America strongman master race fighter for justice.
OPM = Spoof of overpowered nonsense, the most overpowered of overpowered because he can.
OPM was literally designed to be overpowered. OPM was designed with "no limits in mind". We was seriously there to make fun of Superman. Now, you're thinking "What the **** are you getting on about? This doesn't make him stronger." Well, yes it does. This makes him overwhelmingly more powerful. OPM whole existance is to be better than these Garys and Marys simply because.... **** them. Superman will asspull because no one wants the hero to lose, but in the end Saitama was the character made to asspull the asspulls. At that level, it might even be a battle of authors. Who can out asspull the other? Who can make the wildest asspull? At what point is asspulling to much? Will the to much even stop them?
I agree entirely, and you didn't even address Supes' other glaring weakness in a battle of brawn: HIS invulnerability has a finite limit, and must be recharged by the sun if he gets beaten too hard. Saitama's does not. Ergo, even if Saitama couldn't break through his invincibility with one punch (unlikely), rendering Superman completely powerless as the result (if not dead), that would still be the end result of them trading blows. Saitama likely wouldn't get knocked back an inch, while Supes would be reduced to a krypple (Geddit? Kryptonian cripple? Krypple? Eh? Ehhhhh?).
Clarify one thing regarding the initial Goku deal. Goku was made to overcome his own limits and show hard work....works. He has to go out and train (or scream for 5 episodes) to be at peak capabilities. Again, he has a limit at the moment, so therefore, those without limits > Goku.
You guys want something that Saitama cannot defeat? Ok, here we go:
Galactus, wielding The Ultimate Nullifier
It's whole thing is that can destroy absolutely anything. It breaks the rule that matter cannot be destroyed, only changed. It can destroy all of reality, leaving only nothingness, and then destroy NOTHINGNESS to bring reality back. And it can destroy fragments of time or time itself, wiping events from or utterly destroying the past or future.
Regardless of Saitama's strength, he will be destroyed before he can get close to Galactus holding this thing. And even if he somehow break the laws of reality to become immune to it, all Galactus would need to do is destroy him in the past, when he was not strong enough to resist it.
you know, posting as anon means that you dont have the time to create an account, becouse you have better things to do, like working and stuff not the same anon as before, i just wanted to give some honor to the name
Doesn't really solidify his point, though. If he's working so much that he doesn't have the 2 minutes to make an account, then he certainly doesn't have the time to worry about whether or not people have lives.
One question has anyone ever overcome the ultimate nullifier before? if not clean win, if so Saitama could probably overcome; as far as time travel is concerned, super hero time travel usually leaves behind some sort of portal for the hero to trail, and if he is able to follow Galactus back he is able to beat Galactus, because stupid levels of OP... sill ultimate nullifier seems like a pretty clean cut victory for Galactus.
As far as I have seen, nothing has been able to survive being the target of the Nullifier. When it was used to destroy an entire universe, 3 heroes survived, but only because they were temporarily thrown into another dimension and didn't re-emerge until after it was used.
Pretty sure Goku nearly destroyed the universe with the aftershocks of his punches in Dragonball Super. That makes him much higher than anything we've seen Saitama do
Don't get me wrong, I love Saitama, but his shtick of being so untouchably powerful isn't as impressive when you look at the bigger picture. Sure, Saitama has never had to try so far and he's much more powerful than he's letting on, but he's only so powerful because of the context of his universe. If a story revolved around ants or snails, I would be seen as an unbeatable powerhouse too, but that doesn't mean I can beat the Hulk. Saitama might seem powerful, but that's because the rest of his cast is relatively weak when compared the the rest of fiction
To use another example, Sonic the Hedgehog is often touted as "the fastest thing alive," and considering his whole characterization is centered around being fast, you might think he's faster than someone like Silver Surfer, whose powerset does not put as much of an emphasis on his speed. However, SS has shown far greater feats of speed than Sonic ever has. Likewise, while Saitama is strong because his strength is portrayed as being a complete outlier when compared to the rest of the series, it doesn't mean he'll beat Wonder Woman, Goku, Hulk or who have you
In the webcomics, which the manga and anime have been following panel for panel, it is blatantly stated, later on, that Saitama's power is literally limitless (I.E. A single punch could and would literally destroy half the galaxy, with ease, if he wasn't literally always holding back like he is, if not more). He IS untouchably powerful, even in the grand scheme of things. That's his power, man.
Death of the Author is a thing. If we took every single author statement as indisputable fact, we would have thousands of building level characters because their authors said they had "limitless power" or "limitless potential." Until Saitama actually demonstrates that power, we can't assume the author is doing anything but exaggerating
It always gets on my nerves when somebody uses unbacked author claims as canon power measuring.
In that case I could do this:
This is Shibble Dibble. His power is that he can kill bald people in one punch, regardless of their power. Therefore, he beats OPM.
kewl, so more character statements. Is there another panel where he did blow up half a galaxy like anon claimed? Nope, not from what I've seen. Statements of "unlimited potential" mean nothing. Batman has been stated to have as much potential too, but he isn't destroying galaxies any time soon
I dunno, the one against Shiba, shiba desintagrates things by breaking them apart with his magic, now i know i'm now 4 episodes behind, but he's kinda never gone up against magic before, and Shiba has super human speed as well so that one would be pretty awesome to watch And we all know Goku would die, but One punch would probably just give up when Goku was revived the 100408434542362th time.