Completely agreed, but I can see why people would like Madara. He was strong because he trained that way, and had experience with large battles. His first introduction against the army and how he handled it was great to watch. It wasn't until he started abusing the Sharingan and all that nonsense that he started becoming a true mary sue.
But it was the way he was like 'Nah, I'm the boss around here. Let me use and counter this overpowered Jutsu that I never heard of before and don't even know the seals for." That was the point where he should have just died.
Even the writer, Kishimoto, was recorded saying "I don't know how to kill Madara." Despite the numerous plot points he had to kill him off, he decided to just plot-bomb him and replace him with Bunny Mom, who, in my opinion, couldn't even think for herself as far as we were shown.
Meh, it's pretty sad what Naruto became. Everything past the Sound 5 was when the show started to suck. Especially Shippuden.
Partly his fault for mind raping his brother instead of being like "Yeah, they were going to kill the whole village and the Hokage to gain control. Couldn't let that happen, bro." He could have even done it in the Tsukiyomi, so it'd be only Sasuke that knew the true truth.
But most of Sasuke's flaws rest with Sasuke and Kishi's bad writing. I still strongly believe that Anko was meant to be Sasuke's teacher, to teach him not to rely on Orochimaru's power. But she was dropped after she engaged Orochimaru back then.
Still, he wrote a really good (if you ask me) tragic antihero. One of the only characters I actually liked was Itachi. He made mistakes obviously, and could've done things a lot better (especially since he's so damn talented)... but in the end he never compromised himself. Lost his best friend, then had to destroy his whole clan, and yet still stood by his brother.
He just had a rough place in life, the Uchiha curse and that disease that made him a prodigy at the cost of an early death.
Itachi was my favorite pre-shippuden in the Akatsuki. It was only his ending not being at the hands of Team 7 that bothered me. Back then, I expected Naruto, Sasuke, and meat shield to work together to defeat him and let Sasuke realize that he only lived this long because his brother let him, and because of his team. Instead it just made Sasuke more... well, Sasuke.
I don't recall it being said he was diseased with something that made hims tronger. What I heard is that he had to cut his own power a lot with drugs and sickness just to make sure he wouldn't accidentally kill Sasuke. His whole goal during that fight was to pull Orochimaru out of Sasuke, then die, which he did. In all honesty, I'd say Itachi was potentially stronger than Madara without the whole Sage chakra crap.
Which made it very insulting when there was the comment of "Madara loved his brother even more than Itachi loved his." Like, that was a pretty low blow.
Thankfully Itachi is usually well written in most stories. Either as an anti-hero or a villain, though some of them give him a... crazier personality. I don't recall the story, but there was one where Naruto ends up working with Itachi and Kisame, so they're camping together. Then randomly Itachi sits up in the middle of the night and goes:
"Kisame, why do you think god made the platypus?"
To which the response was "Wha- Go back to sleep!"
That one probably has the craziest Itachi I've read, but most of them write him very well.
I believe the disease was one where an individual was able to produce and use chakra much easier than others (thus Itachi had incredible genjutsu ability), but this steady increase in ability eventually led to suffering pain and eventually would destroy his body. This disease coupled with his intellect made him incredibly deadly.
I think it was mentioned somewhere that he had a lot meds so that he could still perform normally and to cope with the pain and deterioration (so to keep it in check temporarily so he could enact his plans).
Yeah his death was a little sad for those of us who watched the original show. At least one of team 7 was the one to do it. But in reality, Itachi never lost... he just gave up everything to kill the last connection to Orochimaru in Sasuke's body. If he had any desire to beat his brother, he would have without question. Anticlimactic. Saddening.
He still saved his brother, just not entirely in the way he planned for it.
I heard he had drugs in his body that caused that pain, but one of us is probably right!
Nagato is... weird, to say the least. Overall, I wanted him to be the last fight. Not Madara, not Bunny Mom, and especially not Obito. But as a person... Nagato was, at first, an acceptable villain. He lost someone close to him, to someone from Konoha no less, and his sanity took a huge turn after that point.
My major complaint is one I have often with his sort of tragic backstory, the whole "I lost my best friend" theme. The one who lived never stops to think 'is this what he wanted?' when thinking over their actions. Not to mention the thought of contacting Jiraiya, their trusted teacher, about Danzo might have worked way more in their favor in terms of revenge... But he didn't do that.
To be honest, I don't know all the details of his life and it has been too long since I saw the Pain vs Naruto fight at all. I can only barely remember how Naruto talked him down with Jiraiya's book. But I think Nagato had a lot of potential to be another anti-hero, or even a villain turned hero...
But I do have to say the Naruto vs Pain fight was one of the more intense moments in Shippuden, possibly the only real major fight that I can say I enjoyed from that part of Naruto.
After he came back to life with a more positive personality, I have to say I would have preferred if he had stayed alive with that sort of outlook and joking style. And, to be honest, I didn't really get the point of splitting his power into 6 bodies if his main body could handle all of those Jutsu alone.
It was also complete crap that the Rinnegan ended up being a Sharingan mutation and that Nagato randomly and some how unknowingly had Madara's eyes implanted in himself. It should have just been an Uzumaki mutation or just a 'miracle' like it was made to be at the beginning, but meh. That's just Kishi's bad writing.
The guy really needed to focus on something other than the Sharingan.
I mean the aesthetics of the thing got a lot of kids excited when they were kids watching the show.
Lucky break for Kishi since it was fairly obvious the damn thing was gonna be really important ( OH BOY ONLY ONE KID LEFT WITH THE SHARINGAN, NO WAY IT CAN BE OP RIGHT? )
The pain fight was incredible, have to say it was also one of my favorites. Damn shame he wasn't around all that long. And he was replaced by an angstier villain (Obito) almost directly after his death.
I finished watching after the Akatsuki arc mainly because Itachi was killed off.
There was no way that that whiny Sasuque bitch was stronger than Itachi and that was implied over and over again.
Itachi was my absolute favorite character (next to Neji and Kakashi), so seeing him dying just to save one of my least favorite character (actually my least favorite, if it wasn't for Sakura) was a punch to the guts.
I know that he gets revived for Kabuto's plans, but he manages to catch him in some ultra genjutsu no one's ever escaped yet, but he still dies after that, so screw Kishi for killing the best character in his manga tbh.
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Man, I remember reading that **** .
That plot was so convolutedly bad.
He legit gave the **** up halfway thru the war.
I'm glad it at least ended instead of trying to go on to much longer.
Man, sometimes reading Naruto became such a chore. I mean, I loved reading it at times when something cool happen. And no way was I gonna stop at 600 chapters in. I often describe Naruto as a really nice car crash. It's ******* horrible and brutal to look at, but god you just cant take your eyes off of it.
Oh god stop
I love One Piece to bits. I'm watching it atm.
And when I say watching it I mean I havent watched it in a few months. Only on Fishman Island
That was the part that made me give up on the show. The fight itself was cool but the aftermath where they just go "no it's fine I'll just revive everyone." is the moment I said **** it. And they had just finally actually killed a character you cared about. I couldn't ******* believe they didn't do some stupid ******** to bring Jirayia is I spelled that right, too lazy to check back. Then they go right back to doing it. I mean if they just revived Kakashi or Tsunada it would of been one thing, but the fact they literally bring back everyone is just stupid.
Sorry for rant. Naruto was my favorite show as a kid and realizing how bad it actually is sucked.
really? I thought they always put main characters on the sides and back rows
I was going for the top right guy, and the one in front and the one to his right would be his buds
They usually put the character at the back next to the window, because that means they need to animate less people and they're lazy ***** it saves budget. In this example, they just drew everyone in **** quality instead.
I enjoyed death-note, however the ending seemed retarded.
There was so much build up to Light and nears face off and light's death but the ending trump card was some offscreen uncontrollable factor.
I just felt a little cheated with the ending you know?
I loved death note up until L died I found Near so hard to like, I mean it felt like he popped up out of no where, he was basically a really annoying L 2.0. I agree with the feeling of being cheated but I didn't expect a great ending after L pepsi'd anyway.