She thought he drew her and starts posing while he actually drew a trashcan and she is posing for nothing.
One other way to interpenetrate it is that when he drew the trashcan he actually did drew her, but she's just trash and that that's why he drew a trashcan.
It allowed them to see things more clearly than other people could, namely the 'movement' of muscles and sort of predict what someone was going to do. It also allowed them to 'copy' those movements and mix them with their own.
So if someone with a Sharingan copied someone drawing, they could use those movements to help them draw faster. Sort of like a printer, I guess.
Lee and Tenten were implied to have a kid too, or Lee created a clone.
Not sure if that's confirmed or not, though. All I know is they showed Lee with a mini-Lee behind him and then the next page had Tenten muttering about something.
The anime is going to be completely the same, although they'll probably add in a few scenes.
It's doubtful Kishi would care about that at this point, especially with how the anime is still showing filler episodes when the manga has been complete for awhile...
In the middle of a battle.
At this point, I think Naruto would be better off getting the Bleach ending: Stopping completely with no confirmation on if the anime will cover the end or not.
Yeah, these fillers are pissing me off to no end.
Why the hell would you show Naruto dying and then suddenly, Chunin Exams!
C'mon Kishi you cunt.
But I have seen things in the manga that weren't in the Anime and vice-versa, so maybe they'll add more depth to the loose-ends that the manga left.
nope, the girl is a year or two younger than his son...also the reason why neither of his kids have the byakugan is that apparently kishi straight up forgot
If she were an actual useful character, I'd be fine with her. I'm about 300 episodes into Shippuden and even with her having useful abilities, she's still mostly useless and overemotional except for a scattering of isolated incidents. She's obsessed with Sasuke while it's clear that Sasuke is damaged goods. I don't mind characters with flaws, but that's a ******* annoying flaw. If they try to make Sasuke good again after all his angsty emo ******** , I'm going to...Well, I'm probably not so emotionally invested in anime that I'd do anything except for be mildly disappointed...
boy do i have some bad news for you, warning don't click if you don't want massive spoilers for the ending sasuke becomes good again, then evil, then stands down,then he knocks sakura up and decides to travel the world
I'm just sitting here thinking, you know, that its such a shame that the massive hate for her is justified, because she could easily be one of the most interesting female character in anime if she wasn't so obsessed with Sasuke. But here's the thing I can't get past--what do more people hate her for? Her obsession with Sasuke or that before canonization she was legit candidate competition for the Narutobowl?
>inb4 she never liked Naruto
Hinata's big confession was years ago so its pretty easy to forget that years before everyone thought Sakura would win.
Yeah, I'm with you, I think she could have been a good character if the craving for Uchiha D wasn't so heavy in her. I don't mind that it's there, but she doesn't have to be obsessed with him. It doesn't have to be her sole driving force like it seems to be. Like I said, I don't mind some flaws, but when a flaw is that overpowering...Damn...
And honestly, I'm not just targeting Sakura with this either. Naruto's possibly chasing Sasuke's dick more than Sakura is.
One thing I hate about the end of Naruto is how they were all just paired off, I mean come on, Sai and Ino?? Where the hell did that come from? EVERYONE got married and had kids ffs, I wanted people to die! Naruto and Sasuke should have at least stayed with losing an arm each, instead of being, oh yeah let's...uhhh...grow them back, yaaay!
It was pretty dumb, especially with how all their kids are around the same age. Which means they all had relationships at the same time, even though only Sakura/Sasuke, Naruto/Hinata, and possibly Shika/Temari were the only ones hinted to be in a relationship.
I don't think Sai and Ino ever spoke to each other, and then there's Chouji and that girl from Kumo... Like what? When did they even speak to each other? They also only met once and I don't think they even glanced at each other since Chouji was kind of busy punching his reincarnated teacher.
I do agree the ending was pretty dumb how the only thing we really lost was Neji and some characters we hardly knew. Even losing Neji was pretty dumb, especially after Naruto came back all God-like. Should have at least lost Gai, honestly, after he went all out like that. Would have been a terrible loss, but it would have given his sacrifice more ... life to it, ironically.
Meh, we can just look towards fan fiction for that stuff. Someone out there had to do something right with that story.
arms made out of hokage wood/Zetsu cells aren't grown back, and plenty of characters have used hem before.
Choji and that cloud whore? no thanks.
Ino and Sai i understand, hes hot, shes shallow, he looks like Sasuke, it fits.
nobody else "paired off" as Shikamaru and Temari, Naruto and Hinata, Sasuke and Sakura all made sense, and the rest of the lot either where single or their partners where not shown.
I do think it could have been cool if Sasuke ended up with Karin, so they could have the perfect sage baby with Rinnegan, and so Sakura could have ended up with Lee, but im glad Sakura got what she wanted, it was nice to see the pairings weren't made to fit Naruto and Sasuke's needs, Sakura had a goal and she achieved it, good for her.
I want to know what happened to orochimaru, theres NO way he got a pardon, but he might be the villain again in Boruto chronicals, we will have to wait and see.
Orochimaru got redeemed out of villainy by Kishimoto's inability to write consistently. As good as he is at world-building and character-design he is a total noob at plot and even after so many years of writing Naruto he didn't improve, he only got worse. It started around the Sasuke retrieval arc where instead of doing the narratively effective thing by involving the rest of the Konoha 12 (7 were already involved in the arc, 8 if you count Sakura doing bugger all). Temari, puppet-guy, and Gaara added nothing to neither the arc nor the characters whereas having Hinata show up to help Neji, Shino for Kiba, Ino for Shikamaru, and Ten Ten for Lee would give a good chance to build on their pre-established relationships and provide more interesting combination tactics as opposed to the Sand Nin just taking over the fights half-way through.
From there you've got the completely mis-managed time-skip, the needless additions of characters like Sai, the continually laughable irrelevance of Sakura, the de-clawing and eventual removal from relevance of Orochimaru, and basically the casting aside of most of the important elements and themes that came about before the skip.
Kishimoto was clearly coming up with **** on the fly as opposed to Eiichiro Oda's style of planning out everything in advance, thus giving the writing far more structure.
So, with all of that bourn in mind alongside how most of the established villains, including Madara, got away with some kind of sympathetic element or redemption to them, we can firmly assume that Orochimaru ain't gonna do jack **** .
Also, stifflimb, his name was Suigetsu. Remember how he was supposed to have an arc about how he wanted to collect the seven blades of the Rain Ninja? Remember how awesome the conclu- oh.
My advice is not to get your hopes up for the Burito Chronicles. Anything that was actually good about Kishimoto's abilities as a Mangaka disappeared a long time ago and nowhere is it more evident than the final chapter of Naruto. The kids' character designs are mostly awful or at least below average. Some of the pairings were nonsensical and for some reason Anko is fat now. (Remember Anko and how her story was tied into that of Orochimaru and was gonna be impo- oh... okay...)
Also, perhaps the most wonderfully magnificent thing about the final chapter. Naruto and Hinata do not, even for a single panel, share any space. They are never together. The penultimate chapter has them mourning Neji together but apart from that there isn't a single moment where the main character interacts with his wife at all.
EVEN AFTER MARRYING NARUTO HE STILL IGNORES THE **** OUT OF HINATA... AND HIS KIDS! xD It's like since they're 50% Hinata he only acknowledges that they exist 50% of the time. I would love to see their home life where the two of them are never in the same room at the same time.
Also, Kakashi becomes Hokage for no reason... like, literally, no reason. He has never displayed the qualities of a guy who is supposed to inspire and lead a large number of people and to top it all off Tsunade wasn't even dead yet. Kishimoto was like "Yeah... Kakashi's the Hokage for a bit because Obito said so or something.
Anyway, rant over. I really wish Naruto could have left a better taste in my mouth. So far as I'm concerned the story basically ends with the Sasuke retrieval arc and then goes in a completely different direction from the shippuden timeline because I'd like to remember the best about Naruto, not the worst.
ignores his wife and kids? you got a glimpse of one day of his whole life and what you take away is that he is neglectful? that's pulling at the strings of strings mate.
Also, what are you arguing? we where talking about how we didn't like some of the random pairing, then you came along and wrote a novel about exactly what we where talking about.
welll the hokage doesnt have to die for the next hokage to come in. Minato became hokage before sarutobi died, and only came back to lead because Minato dies shortly after becoming the 4th.
it made a good amount of sense for kakashi to become hokage. he was an extremely important ninja to the village, its just that everything amazing he did was before the show began. though i wish they had given a bit more explanation as to why he had some sort of daddy issue.
i completely agree that it seemed like there should have been a few more arcs before the big final battle, but none of them would have had anything to do with naruto and i assume kishimoto just wanted to stick to the bare bones as far as story branching goes since he knew the end was near. which is still ****** but maybe we will get a few spinoff mangas telling us what happened to some of the characters who seemed like they should have been important but weren't.
sakura had her story end long before the actual end of the manga. her actual relevance to the main character as anything more than just a friend from his old team ended at the arc that ended with sakura trying to throw herself at naruto to get him to stop throwing his life away trying to bring sasuke home just because he promised her years ago while he was still madly in love and slightly obsessed with her. she had some importance around that part, but after that she was just another person worried about sasuke but was unable to do much other than be a nurse since she couldn't really keep up with scaling that the enemies strength was going at.
everything about orochimaru after the kabuto arc made no sense, he was way to god damn willing to help and it would have made much more sense for him to have tried to help madara as his wish for immortality could have been granted with his help.
both sai and yamato (the wood guy if you have forgotten about him as much as i have) became useless side characters immediately following the pein arc. where their characters came from and what i think kishimoto was trying to do with them when they were first implemented was very clear, sai was going to be a physical stand in for sasuke for both naruto and sakura as he had very similar personality and though sai tried harder to act normal and ended up being weirder. and yamato was supposed to represent every doubt that the village had about naruto as he was still someone carrying around a literal monster inside of him that he had no way of controlling. yamato was finished with his duty as a character once naruto defeated pein and was recognized by the village as true hero, which is why he almost stop shoiwing up entirely around that point. sai was a little weirder as he was supposed to be a stand in character for sasuke but sasuke was a constant thing throughout the show if not always important. what that meant for sai was that he never really got the chance to develope his own character as he was never able to stay relevant long enough to gain any memerable emotional attatchment. even the final arc where he was of any importance with the leader of the shinobu was highly saturated with stuff about sasuke and thus its even hard to remember what importance he held at that time. so yea kishimoto started with good ideas for these characters, but one of them was a side character at best and the other just never got a chance.
naruto probaly doesnt even remember he is married to hinata, only reason he probably remembers the existence of his children is because konohamaru keeps reminding him about his son being an asshole.
if there was any spinoff that actually had characters with completely unresolved plots it would be a story of what karin and suigetsu were doing after the ninja war. i imagine they travled around with sasuke a bit more for a while then ended up going different ways when sasuke decided to really go home.
i think kishimoto jsut didnt know what kind of pacing he should use for the second half of the manga .
The issue is that Kakashi never demonstrates at any point the makings of a Hokage. Hero or not he has never shown himself to embody what it means to be the Hokage outside of his ethics, and those ethics are supposedly shared amongst most Konoha ninja.
The point is, there was no need for Kakashi to become Hokage. It was just another redundant move by Kishimoto that undermines Kakashi's core factors, namely that he is a mostly lazy, unpunctual guy that enjoys raunchy novels. He's a cool guy but he's not Hokage material. Remember, the Hokage's job boils down pretty exclusively to paperwork, public relations, etc. which suits Tsunade's personality as a strong-willed supportive Ninja. Kakashi is a fighter plain and simple. Why put someone less-suited to the job and less experienced at the job behind the desk when there is already someone else who has proven to be essentially perfect for the job already in the position?
And that's not what I was saying at all. What I was saying is that the entire ending that was built up to and everything that happened post time-skip was terribly written, discarded most of the build-up from the first third of the series including the characters that were relevant and already established, and boiled everything down into something that was supposed to be far more epic but ended up just being far, far more stupid because Kishimoto didn't stick to his strengths.
And that also wasn't anywhere near the end of Sakura's arc. The real issue is she never actually had one in the first place. That bit in the snow with Naruto wasn't the end of her arc at all, it was just her failing to understand what was going on and being thoroughly immature about it, thinking everything going on was about her and not realising Naruto's own interests in Sasuke outside of how he related to her, and trying to rid herself of her worries by selling her life away in false hope. The truth is that Sakura never actually develops. She says that she's getting stronger and tries to become relevant but because Kishimoto didn't plan things out properly she just ends up almost always being completely ineffectual to the actual plot. She just one-day decides she's gonna stand shoulder-to-shoulder with naruto and Sasuke right before they blow right past her and then she faffs about and ends up letting the most evil man on the planet bring about Armageddon because she couldn't stab the second most evil man on the planet in the eye when he was begging her to do so. She never had any **** to get together in the first place.
Orochimaru's the smartest person in the series barring perhaps Shikamaru. He'd never trust a madman like Madara, both because Madara is untrustworthy and because Orochimaru would never trust anyone stronger than he was. I'd also argue that him getting "killed" by Sasuke was ******* retarded because what followed were several hundred chapters where we didn't have any actually compelling villains at all and what preceeded it were several hundred chapters building up how much of a threat Orochimaru wa- nope, he's totally dead... well, kinda... not really.
Sai and Yamato suffered the same fate as the other Konoha 12. Kishimoto's poor planning and his inability to focus on relevant characters. The coolest part of Shippuden was easily Shikamaru vs (I wanna say... Kaku?) because it was one of the few fights in Shippuden not ended with a ******* Rasengan! Kishimoto just made the story way too big way too fast and yet still kept it so amazingly focussed on the same characters over and over that everyone else just because redundant.
That sounds dull. Was there a single moment when Taka was actually a compelling group of characters? They were supposed to be important villains but they were just so ******* dull and they did nothing that 4 white Zetsus couldn't have done, GOD they were a waste of time!
Kishimoto's flaws go further and deeper than pacing. I'm actually out of space but if you want to know the details I can give 'em.
I think you were talking about Shikamaru vs Hidan. Kakuzu was the one who got beat by the Rasenshuriken and was Hidan's partner. Pretty sure Kishi said Hidan is still alive too, but will die because of lack of nutrition at some point.
Cheers for clearing that up btw. Poor Hidan... oh, wait, no, he killed that guy who got almost no character development so I guess I hate him now. Poor Asuma, I really feel like he and Kurenai deserved more time devoted to fleshing them out because the only think I remember about Asuma's character is his kick-ass knuckle-knives and his relation to Sarutobi, and as for Kurenai? Well... she had a baby so... there's that... but otherwise she never really did anything. What a waste of a good opportunity, especially when she had an arc waiting to happen guiding Hinata, easily the character with the most outside-pressure on them in the entire Konaha 12. Heck, I wouldn't mind seeing the series from their team's point of view because how cool would that be?
A good example of how Hidan was poorly planned is how little his character grew, and because of a comment Kishi made about how his scythe had a lot more tricks... But Kishi couldn't figure out how to put them in due to the time frame Hidan was put in.
Could have given the scythe to Tenten, or gave Hidan more of a story. I mean, he was from a non-main village and worshipped some god and couldn't die. That should have some back story...
But meh. Both of us could go on forever about what Kishi could have done.
I'd rather talk about the recent One Piece chapter that came out, you know? Like how surprising it was that Not only is Trebol super old and more or less raised Dofla, but that he's not a logia. Doesn't really make sense, honestly, since Usopp chopped the guy in half earlier with a shuriken star, but...
You could argue that he IS a Logia but that the majority of his mass isn't actually his body because he's actually really skinny.
However, the argument I believe is that he is basically a paramecia like Luffy and Buggy. Luffy's rubber body is immune to blunt-force trauma and Buggy's body is immune to cuts, so Trebol's snot body basically has the effect of being a logia in that his body is made of snot which can't be cut or punched or shot or anything. He's not turning his body into snot like a Logia does like how Ace could turn his into fire and avoid any kind of injury, Trebol's body may just be like that all the time.
Also, I still can't get over how ******* hard-boiled Seinor Pink is! OH MY GOD HE IS SO ******* MANLY!
But if he's like that, then how did he dodge Usopp's slash earlier, but not Law's? Law's earlier cut could easily be explained off, where he literally cut Trebol into pieces, because his attacks always do that to his opponent, but not Usopp's. He's also clearly cut below his neck, and there's no way he could bend his body up like that or anything...
But if he was really immune to stuff like Luffy and Buggy, why could Law cut him? It wasn't his 'Room' power, that was just used to move his arm. It wasn't Haki, either, since Luffy's attacks couldn't hurt him while Haki attacks hurt Luffy just fine. We'll probably get the answer to that next chapter, but it's still rather strange.
It's possible his body simply is Mucas, similar to a logia, but he produces so much that his 'true' body is hidden in the folds, so you would need Haki to actually cut him and to hit everything in order to hit the right spot like Law did. Usopp doesn't have haki, so that could explain why his cut didn't work.
Pink was pretty manly, but I'm kind of upset with Franky still having a 'human' backside, according to Pink. I think he could have figured out how to fix that by then, although he did get up again.
Your third paragraph got it right (at least the only way that makes sense atm.)
And Franky needs to have that vulnerable back otherwise he would be metal all over. Remember, Franky has more versatility and durability than most fruit-users plus the majority of his body is basically tekkai-like indestructible. He is the official tank of the Straw Hat crew, able to soak up way more damage than anyone else. He needs to have some weak spots for the sake of narrative tension.
I'd say he has several weaknesses, such as taking attacks head on like he claimed he did with Pink. While manly, it would cause some problems later... He also takes too much time to do attacks and doesn't seem to have much attack power when it comes to an area around him. In front of him in a cone-like shape, sure, but not so much in a circle around himself like Zoro or Sanji. I'd say his biggest weakness is how flashy he is, but that's also a strength in some cases. The 'Franky General' or whatever it's called is a good example of being very flashy and big... but ultimately rather useless, since Franky himself does all the attacks. Hopefully that's a work in progress, haha.
Also a strange thing about Trebol is how his mucas is flammable, but Corazon didn't take that to his advantage with how clumsy he was with fire. Probably didn't know he was coated in the stuff or something, or maybe he felt that was too obvious and would get Doffy to kill him. Which it would, accident or not, but still.
Maybe, or maybe Oda's not really too concerned with those kinds of minor details. Oda puts a lot of work into keeping his story coherent but he knows his priorities.
Orochimaru the damn immortal guy is still my favorite character so I second it with we need more story regarding him.
I kinda wanna see Karin end up with the sword guy that turns into water, just dont remember his name, Karin got a biting fetish, he got sharkteeths and they pretty much hate each other.
And Jugo would be like their inliving roommate/nanny!
Mm thats right, always have an issue with remembering his name, think it's cause he lost importance to the main story pretty quickly.
sasuke and jugo sitting in uncomfortable silence watching the fight, occasionally muttering something to eacho ther. i love the manga, but.... some slice of life episodes could be funny with naruto characters lol
Neither of them would be uncomfortable since both usually are pretty quiet, they would just sit there Sasuke camly sipping some sake while Jugo is watching another bird that comes in and lands on his shoulders, you see Karin slashing Suigetsu in the background while their children is playing in front of Sasuke and Jugo and the big sister is bullying the little brother.
Jugo lets out a howl which attracts Karin and Suigetsu's attention and both hits him for interrupting so he flies over Sasuke who just bends slightly to avoid him and gets stuck in the wall where the kids start to whack him on the butt with sticks.
This is rather fun to do. For part of a life drawing class, our lecturer told us that if you ever draw in public, a lot of people will suddenly start to pose we went to a lagoon area and were told to draw randoms to see it for ourselves On the train trip home, I decided to just draw random artwork and after a couple of minutes, a bunch of passengers started to shift around to look better.