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![Double Standards. . FIGHTS All ll WES TI( El] IT( i HE' ll ! muss. Krillin - Nearly one-shotted both Nappa and Frieza and plays at least a decent role in his fights (usually fending off the bad guys until Goku arrives.) He also](http://2static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Double+standards_efcb77_5772425.png "Double Standards")
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astatine (12/17/2015) [-]
Krillin - Nearly one-shotted both Nappa and Frieza and plays at least a decent role in his fights (usually fending off the bad guys until Goku arrives.) He also regularly fights and usually wins against the current big bad's henchmen.
Mumen Rider - Doesn't even mildly harm his opponents and his most valuable role in the anime so far (I'm too lazy to manga) was to drop his phone, which Saitama picked up and used to ask where the Sea King was
Mumen Rider - Doesn't even mildly harm his opponents and his most valuable role in the anime so far (I'm too lazy to manga) was to drop his phone, which Saitama picked up and used to ask where the Sea King was
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mcmonsterkitty (12/18/2015) [-] Not to mention Krillin in real life could very well kick any average person's (all of us) ass.
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mcmonsterkitty (12/18/2015) [-] I've not gotten into OPM yet but that sounds impressive.
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astatine (12/18/2015) [-]
It's definitely worth getting into, I'm too lazy to manga so I've only watched the series but if you like over-the-top badassery with characters who are clearly too powerful for their respective universe it's worth a watch, I'd say it's on a pretty similar level to Overlord and Re:Monster
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mcmonsterkitty (12/18/2015) [-] I've been planning on watching the series (I hate manga, damn obscure backwards ass books) I usually like to wait till whole seasons are out with anime though.
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astatine (12/18/2015) [-]
Fair enough, I'm generally the same (except for Re:Monster that ****** amazing, although the manga's only translated so far and past that you've got to read it as a novel)
I'd make a suggestion for when to start but since I haven't read the manga, I don't know when it'd be a good time. Right now it's left on a bit of a cliffhanger
I'd make a suggestion for when to start but since I haven't read the manga, I don't know when it'd be a good time. Right now it's left on a bit of a cliffhanger
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queenchrysalis (12/18/2015) [-] Tien beats him for sure. In Bojack unbound, Tien could have probably beaten Trunks had he not gone super saiyan.
Tien trains pretty much nonstop.
Tien trains pretty much nonstop.
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hypocritical (12/18/2015) [-] Krillin - Trains with literal demigods
Mumen Rider - Normal person who knows what a hero should be and follows in their footsteps
Mumen Rider - Normal person who knows what a hero should be and follows in their footsteps
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anon (12/17/2015) [-]
mumen rider is like a power level 5 human who just wants to help people.
krillin can launch beams and **** and trained initially for personal gain.
mumen rider is the pinnacle of justice.
krillin is a letcherous space-waster who tags along with gokus gang just because hes expected to.
mumen rider faces permanent death on a daily basis.
krillin gets ressed off-cooldown and death in the DBZ universe is as malliable as the "5 mins" it took for namek to explode.
krillin can launch beams and **** and trained initially for personal gain.
mumen rider is the pinnacle of justice.
krillin is a letcherous space-waster who tags along with gokus gang just because hes expected to.
mumen rider faces permanent death on a daily basis.
krillin gets ressed off-cooldown and death in the DBZ universe is as malliable as the "5 mins" it took for namek to explode.
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anonymoose (12/18/2015) [-] Krillin has more right to tag along with Goku than any of the other Z-fighters, being Goku's best friend and all.
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SoulCaster (12/18/2015) [-] The Z fighters were the defenders of Earth, there right to tag along and join in on the fights was not based on their relationship with Goku but based on there ability to fight and how useful they could be in whatever the situation happened to be.
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anonymoose (12/18/2015) [-] Anon said Krillen had no right to hang out in Goku's gang, not the Z-Fighters.
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schneidend (12/18/2015) [-] Krillin had already been resurrected by the Dragon Balls in the original anime, so until Namekian Dragon Balls and Dende got into the mix, he was genuinely risking the only life he had left.
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anon (12/18/2015) [-] **anonymous used "*roll picture*"**
**anonymous rolled image**Krillin also put the whole universe at risk by not destroying android 18 and letting Cell absorb her to become perfect. Yeah because he had a hard on for 18 he nearly caused the destruction of the universe. A real hero.
**anonymous rolled image**Krillin also put the whole universe at risk by not destroying android 18 and letting Cell absorb her to become perfect. Yeah because he had a hard on for 18 he nearly caused the destruction of the universe. A real hero.
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thefiveblade (12/18/2015) [-]
Exactly krillins goal was self strengthening he wasn't even trying to save the world and look he still did better than someone who's main goal was to help people. Mumen rider or licences less rider from the manga I never understood why it was changed maybe they mean the same thing idfk, is a ******* loser who dick rides One punch man's dick.
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anon (12/18/2015) [-]
Why does it matter what his original intent was? Saitama's original intent was he was ******* bored and didn't want to be a desk jockey. hey trained for personal reasons, and ended up an unstoppable hero. Krillin did what he did for personal reasons as well, he didn't end up an unstoppable force but he put his life on the line a lot, he grew as a character and became a a very good man.
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anon (12/18/2015) [-]
>didn't even watch the first episode
>talks **** on Saitama
He didn't get his one and only chance at a good paying job, he was destitute and had no plans for the future, basically he wanted to die. He even told the monster he didn't care if he killed him.
But when that monster attacked the kid he remembered, he had a dream! "And that dream was to be a hero! a Hero that could send scum like you Flying with ONE PUNCH!"
>talks **** on Saitama
He didn't get his one and only chance at a good paying job, he was destitute and had no plans for the future, basically he wanted to die. He even told the monster he didn't care if he killed him.
But when that monster attacked the kid he remembered, he had a dream! "And that dream was to be a hero! a Hero that could send scum like you Flying with ONE PUNCH!"
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boarderlinegreat (12/18/2015) [-] I don't think it was personal at first. He wanted to help others, so much that he hit barriers, which he overcame by sheer willpower, to the point that nothing else matters except his own enjoyment. And not being a total dick.
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anon (12/18/2015) [-]
Point remains, if Mumen Rider didn't distract the Sea King hundreds would be dead. Look at things in perspective - Krillin doing jack **** makes him weak, compared to what he should be. Mumen Rider saving so many people and being courageous means a lot, because he's a regular human with no abilities.
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thefiveblade (12/18/2015) [-]
Krillin has distracted the bad guys on many different occasions until goku (a real hero) saves the day.
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anon (12/18/2015) [-]
Krillin is the strongest human being alive.
Mumen is a regular guy with strong morals and convictions and not much else.
Krillin is the strongest human being alive and gets his ass whupped and is generally useless.
Mumen is a regular guy who risks his life in a universe where there are no do-overs, even knowing there's those better equipped to handle it - simply because it's the right thing to do. He saves most of the population of an entire city by buying them time while tanking hits from a monster who can punch holes in what amounts to nuclear bunkers with his normal human body.
Krillin can tank hits from planet-busters just like everyone else and still doesn't amount to anything.
Mumen is a regular guy with strong morals and convictions and not much else.
Krillin is the strongest human being alive and gets his ass whupped and is generally useless.
Mumen is a regular guy who risks his life in a universe where there are no do-overs, even knowing there's those better equipped to handle it - simply because it's the right thing to do. He saves most of the population of an entire city by buying them time while tanking hits from a monster who can punch holes in what amounts to nuclear bunkers with his normal human body.
Krillin can tank hits from planet-busters just like everyone else and still doesn't amount to anything.
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anon (12/18/2015) [-]
You dense ************ .
Tien is the strongest Human, He not only fought Cell in his Second Form but also held SUPER BUU back while Goku was fusing with Vegeta.
Krillin just complains all the time, Tien actually does ****
Tien is the strongest Human, He not only fought Cell in his Second Form but also held SUPER BUU back while Goku was fusing with Vegeta.
Krillin just complains all the time, Tien actually does ****
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nickelakon (12/18/2015) [-] Anon getting thumbed down even though his right.
On record, Tien has the highest power level out of all the earthlings in the z fighters.
On record, Tien has the highest power level out of all the earthlings in the z fighters.
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servernotfound (12/18/2015) [-] Toriyama has said that TIen isn't human anymore though
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nickelakon (12/18/2015) [-] He is still an earthling
People typically refer to Krillin as the strongest human period.
Also besides that, Yamcha also has a higher power level then krillin. The only reason he typically dies faster is because he doesnt spend so much time running away and hiding.
People typically refer to Krillin as the strongest human period.
Also besides that, Yamcha also has a higher power level then krillin. The only reason he typically dies faster is because he doesnt spend so much time running away and hiding.
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nickelakon (12/18/2015) [-] Actually, I may be wrong on Yamcha
I haven't seen anything more on his power level then what I saw about a year ago and cant find the page I remember it saying he had a higher power level on
But I have seen stuff that officially released his power level at equivalent to Krillin.
I haven't seen anything more on his power level then what I saw about a year ago and cant find the page I remember it saying he had a higher power level on
But I have seen stuff that officially released his power level at equivalent to Krillin.
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servernotfound (12/18/2015) [-] dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_power_levels
So like 2 seconds of google searching says krillin is stronger than Yamcha.
Arguing over power levels is pointless though
I never understood why goku never taught the humans how to use kaioken. It'd be a great force multiplier, especially considering Krillin and Tien both have powerful attacks that allow them to damage foes much more powerful than themselves
So like 2 seconds of google searching says krillin is stronger than Yamcha.
Arguing over power levels is pointless though
I never understood why goku never taught the humans how to use kaioken. It'd be a great force multiplier, especially considering Krillin and Tien both have powerful attacks that allow them to damage foes much more powerful than themselves
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nickelakon (12/18/2015) [-] Just like I replied to myself
But I did say I also found source on Yamcha having an equivalent power level to Krillin (though the writer himself states it makes no sense) dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:The_real_MOST_ACCURATE_list_of_power_levels
But I did say I also found source on Yamcha having an equivalent power level to Krillin (though the writer himself states it makes no sense) dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:The_real_MOST_ACCURATE_list_of_power_levels
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kaimera (12/18/2015) [-]
The creator of DragonBall has said that krillin is in fact the strongest human.
Also, tiens "fight" aginst second form cell was just him spamming tri beam cannon, which did no damage to cell at all. All it did was hold him back long enough for goku to save his ass.
Also, tiens "fight" aginst second form cell was just him spamming tri beam cannon, which did no damage to cell at all. All it did was hold him back long enough for goku to save his ass.
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kaimera (12/18/2015) [-]
1. I didn't praise krillin for anything.
2. I just hate how people keep acting like tien was in this long, grueling battle with cell, when he just did the equivalent of pelting him with giant pillows. (Able to knock him down but did no damage.)
3. So you're saying he used his Ki? Like, everyone else? Everybody uses their life energy, that is literally what Ki (or its real world derivative Qi/Chi) means, life.
2. I just hate how people keep acting like tien was in this long, grueling battle with cell, when he just did the equivalent of pelting him with giant pillows. (Able to knock him down but did no damage.)
3. So you're saying he used his Ki? Like, everyone else? Everybody uses their life energy, that is literally what Ki (or its real world derivative Qi/Chi) means, life.
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drtrousersnake (12/18/2015) [-] song translators translated it so non-japanese speakers could know what it means while some left it alone so the kamem rider I think it was the series power rangers was based on parody was more obvious
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hongkonglongdong (12/18/2015) [-]
But that's literally the whole reason he and the other lower-class heroes did it.
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erotictentacle ONLINE (12/18/2015) [-] don't forget that he tends to carry people out of dangerzones
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erotictentacle ONLINE (12/18/2015) [-] Well, another reason might be because most of us watched DB when we were young, and seeing a "weak" person, even if they gave it their all, made them unpopular in our eyes.
Maybe, being young adults now, we can appreciate someone who does his best and risks his life against all odds?
Maybe, being young adults now, we can appreciate someone who does his best and risks his life against all odds?
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blackmageewizardt (12/18/2015) [-] And then other times...
> manages it to blind freeza, temporaly disabling him, completly open for an shot as he can´t sense energy.
> instead of cutting him in 2 with an destructo disc he flies off.
> gets impaled like the pussy he is.
> manages it to blind freeza, temporaly disabling him, completly open for an shot as he can´t sense energy.
> instead of cutting him in 2 with an destructo disc he flies off.
> gets impaled like the pussy he is.
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uleaveinpieces (12/18/2015) [-] Bulma, after she kept bitching at him and Gohan for leaving her behind while they searched Namek for the Dragon Balls.
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tarabostes (12/17/2015) [-]
Mumen Rider's awesome at boosting morale tho
He's like the interfering Speedwagon
He's like the interfering Speedwagon
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sweetbutteryjesus (12/18/2015) [-] He may have died unmarried, but he totally got a lot of poon. Probably, dude was jacked, and did you SEE his hair? I'd go gay for Speedwagon
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sweetbutteryjesus (12/18/2015) [-] I don't think he was in love with her, man.
I think it was more like, friends. Well, maybe more like people who bonded over the death of their boyfriend RIP Jonathan .
I think it was more like, friends. Well, maybe more like people who bonded over the death of their boyfriend RIP Jonathan .
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sweetbutteryjesus (12/18/2015) [-] Could you imagine if he DID?
Joeseph was already well-off with Granny Erina's money, he didn't need it.
Plus, he seems like the kind of guy to rob people.
It was for the best that Speedyweedy had his company go into science and military **** .
Joeseph was already well-off with Granny Erina's money, he didn't need it.
Plus, he seems like the kind of guy to rob people.
It was for the best that Speedyweedy had his company go into science and military **** .
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sweetbutteryjesus (12/18/2015) [-] That's just age, bro.
Btw, I haven't read the manga yet. I plan on reading it once exams are over.
Plus, the fact that Joseph was even IN part 4 is crazy, given the Joestar life expectancy.
Btw, I haven't read the manga yet. I plan on reading it once exams are over.
Plus, the fact that Joseph was even IN part 4 is crazy, given the Joestar life expectancy.
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sweetbutteryjesus (12/18/2015) [-] Where there any strong female protagonists in Jojo before Jolyne?
That could explain why Suzy (and Erina) to an extent felt pretty weak
That could explain why Suzy (and Erina) to an extent felt pretty weak
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plazmaflare (12/18/2015) [-] That's almost exactly the kind of person Joseph was though. He was a cocky bastard who just wanted to live life and love it. He jumped at opportunities head first and didn't think ahead when he wasn't kicking ass. It makes sense to me that he would jump into a marriage just like that, cus he was basically a arrogant kid. The fact that he cheated was somewhat surprising but I can't say it doesn't make sense, it's just the kind of person he is. He's just another person one who has inhumane abilities but still human and mistakes (Josuke) .
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sweetbutteryjesus (12/18/2015) [-] I can't wait to start Diamond is Unbreakable.
But I have to study for a final tomorrow.
Night.
But I have to study for a final tomorrow.
Night.
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anon (12/18/2015) [-]
>risks death on a regular basis knowing that his friends have the ability and the will to resurrect him if he dies
>gets called a loser
>puts everything he can into serving as a barrier between terrifying monsters and the innocent lives they're trying to end, even though death is a permanent and ever-present threat for him
>gets called a badass
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem here.
>gets called a loser
>puts everything he can into serving as a barrier between terrifying monsters and the innocent lives they're trying to end, even though death is a permanent and ever-present threat for him
>gets called a badass
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem here.
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schneidend (12/18/2015) [-] Krillin had already been resurrected by the Dragon Balls in the original anime, so until Namekian Dragon Balls and Dende got into the mix, he was genuinely risking the only life he had left.
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anon (12/18/2015) [-]
Unless of course you count the death of Piccolo or Dende as the Dragon Balls would become useless. Krillin had also sacrificed himself against Buu and other villains knowing that there was a high chance Piccolo could be killed and that would be the end of him. Granted there's an afterlife, but that doesn't negate Krillin's actions
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thedistrict (12/17/2015) [-] justice crash > destructo disc
cyclist for justice is a true hero.
cyclist for justice is a true hero.
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crackalacking (12/18/2015) [-]
Say what you want about Krillin, at least he puts up a fight. Unlike Yamcha.
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bigbrostrider (12/18/2015) [-]
it's not about what he does, it's about mumen riders strength of character and the fact that he doesnt even hesitate when deciding to throw himself at certain death, whereas krillin tends to toss up the pros and cons and is always reluctant to fight anyone over his power level.
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Mr Unsmiley (12/18/2015) [-] Not "reluctant", he just knows that he's not likely to win or make a real difference. He's still gone up against Freeza and Cell, even Buu, when he knew he didn't have a shadow of a chance at beating him. The thing that people say makes Rider special is something that Krillin has done in pretty much every saga.
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thechosentroll (12/18/2015) [-] Unlike Mumen Rider, Krillin has died before. He is fully aware of how much it is going to hurt when he gets his spine ripped out through his asshole, so he's a bit more reluctant. Rider doesn't, so he just jumps in, unaware of the consequences.
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anon (12/18/2015) [-]
He knows the consequences. I mean, I haven't scooped out your eyeballs with a rusty spoon and bashed your arms and legs to pulp with a rock, but you have a damn good idea that it's going to be the worst thing ever - especially if I know how to keep you from passing out.
If anything, also, NOT knowing generates more fear than knowing.
If anything, also, NOT knowing generates more fear than knowing.
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thechosentroll (12/18/2015) [-] We're not talking about death. We're talking about a very painful death.
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zioken (12/18/2015) [-] Alot of people rag on Krillin but the way I see it, he developed a technique that can cut through anything, which is pretty cool for a pure human
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wertologist (12/18/2015) [-] Tambourine*
He actually was equal to Goku during their training and even then, Gpku was a little ahead of him. When they fought at the tournaments, Goku always toned down his strength because he wanted to have an even fight. At the tournament where Krillin is killed, Goku far surpassed him.
Krillin is still strong as hell, but he was never really on par with Goku. Only when they first met were they reasonably close in strength.
He actually was equal to Goku during their training and even then, Gpku was a little ahead of him. When they fought at the tournaments, Goku always toned down his strength because he wanted to have an even fight. At the tournament where Krillin is killed, Goku far surpassed him.
Krillin is still strong as hell, but he was never really on par with Goku. Only when they first met were they reasonably close in strength.
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crazylance (12/18/2015) [-] Interesting observation.
And yes, you are correct, Killer Queen.
And yes, you are correct, Killer Queen.
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machiavellianhumor (12/18/2015) [-] when she text saying she home alone but you fighting first form superandroid
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sketchE ONLINE (12/18/2015) [-] heres the thing. krillin could kill everyone up to freiza and maybe th androids pretty easily if he was smart enough
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Mr Ronok (12/18/2015) [-] it depends on how they approach the fight. ive never seen the bottom show, but krillin goes into a fight and either stands on the sidelines until he has no choice but to fight and gets his ass handed to him, or he tries to fight, gets slapped around a bit and gives up. if you give absolutely everything you have to try and win the fight, even though you know youre going to lose, youre a badass. krillin does not do this
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anon (12/18/2015) [-]
Licenseless Rider/Mumen Rider has no powers, super-training, abilities, gadgets, or special armor (just some biking gear). But he still climbed to the top of the lowest bracket of heroes, and when a bunch of other heroes who were MUCH MUCH stronger than him and hundreds of innocent people were staring death in the face, he threw his squishy human body at the unstoppable enemy relentlessly, no matter how mulched and broken he became.
He distracted the great enemy long enough for the show's main character to arrive and deal with the problem, saving its second main character, the population of a city, and his superior heroes from certain doom. He not only never gave up no matter how damaged he became, he showed willpower in excess of what any of us would be capable of when he's otherwise just an absolutely ordinary person like anyone in the audience. Less so, even - some of us actually have training and weapons and gear.
He faced it all head on, full of fear and unflagging bravery in the face of annihilation, never stopping, taking the pain and the fear and pushing it aside to give his powerful speech that brought hope back to the people he was protecting even though everyone knew he could never win.
Krillin has, at times, just been a joke character. Half the time he's just whiny, or in the way, or dead.
He distracted the great enemy long enough for the show's main character to arrive and deal with the problem, saving its second main character, the population of a city, and his superior heroes from certain doom. He not only never gave up no matter how damaged he became, he showed willpower in excess of what any of us would be capable of when he's otherwise just an absolutely ordinary person like anyone in the audience. Less so, even - some of us actually have training and weapons and gear.
He faced it all head on, full of fear and unflagging bravery in the face of annihilation, never stopping, taking the pain and the fear and pushing it aside to give his powerful speech that brought hope back to the people he was protecting even though everyone knew he could never win.
Krillin has, at times, just been a joke character. Half the time he's just whiny, or in the way, or dead.
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spoopyskeleton (12/18/2015) [-] Haha except now everyone is useless in Dragon Ball Super and it simply used as filler conversation. Basically if you're not Goku or Vegeta, the original cast is useless. ******* Trunks and Goten can turn SSJ3 and do absolutely nothing when gohan (who is a massive faggot now) tries to stand up to freeza.
Mumen rider is a ******* boss. He helps the hero by cycling around, he saves civilians, he stands up to the ******* fish man to help stall him from killing civilians. We should all be like Mumen rider.
Mumen rider is a ******* boss. He helps the hero by cycling around, he saves civilians, he stands up to the ******* fish man to help stall him from killing civilians. We should all be like Mumen rider.
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machiavellianhumor (12/18/2015) [-] i really wish they gave krillin time in the hyperbolic time chamber. he would be super stronger
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zaggystirdust (12/18/2015) [-] >2015
>people still thinking Krillin is the weakest character
>not Yamcha
This is how you know someone has never watched Dragon Ball.
>people still thinking Krillin is the weakest character
>not Yamcha
This is how you know someone has never watched Dragon Ball.
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amuzen ONLINE (12/18/2015) [-]
Yamcha retired from being a fighter completely at the beginning of DBZ, Chiaotzu or Yajirobe are the weakest 'fighters' but krillin's pretty close. If you're going for weakest active Z fighter at the end of the series Videl is the weakest, If you're just going for straight up weakest character you've got oolong.
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denniswtf (12/18/2015) [-] I would really like to see a DBZ movie just for Krillin, where he faces a serious enemy or organization but can't call anyone for help for some reason and takes it on by himself. Just for once him being a badass. FOR ONCE.
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machiavellianhumor (12/18/2015) [-] yeah it bugged me in the movie how they really making him seem like a badass then gohan came to help. that bugged me. Krillin by the end is close to frieza on namek level power.
