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#29 - vinylshark (09/10/2013) [-]
To be honest, I just don't understand why so many here like animes.
As kid they're kind of ok to watch, but as adult they're just annoying.
#562 to #29 - chromefile (09/11/2013) [-]
thank you for saying what i was thinking
User avatar #539 to #29 - animepost (09/11/2013) [-]
I know right? It's ridiculous people still enjoy something I personally grew out of.

/sarcasm
User avatar #404 to #29 - daentraya (09/11/2013) [-]
Anime is a medium of animation, which can range from Monster, K-on, Garden of Sinners, moe, mecha, and Attack on Titan, childrens stuff, to whatever. It's like asking why someone likes movies.
Hope that clears it up
#346 to #29 - thundagawd (09/11/2013) [-]
Anime has genres dedicated to every age group. Sure, for some people they might come off as "Childish", "Stupid", and borderline pornographic (not helped by the fact that the majority of publicity for anime comes from "loli's, tits, and fanservice", which leads many people to believe that that's all anime is). But the stuff geared towards a more 						******					 audience tends to hold up just as well -if not better- than regular television.   
   
Watch a psychological series like Higurashi or Steins;Gate and you'll see that anime can tell a story just as well -if not better- than regular TV or a live movie. Watch an action series like Hellsing Ultimate or Black Lagoon and you'll see that anime can lay down action just as well -if not better- than a Quentin Tarantino movie or a grindhouse flick. Watch a philosophical series  intertwined with cyberpunk action  like Ergo Proxy or Ghost in the Shell, and you'll see that anime can make you think just a good -if not better- than reading something  considerably less entertaining  such as philosophical works.   
   
TL;DR There's a different genre of anime for every age group. Don't generalize anime as a whole because of what little you've seen/heard of.
Anime has genres dedicated to every age group. Sure, for some people they might come off as "Childish", "Stupid", and borderline pornographic (not helped by the fact that the majority of publicity for anime comes from "loli's, tits, and fanservice", which leads many people to believe that that's all anime is). But the stuff geared towards a more ****** audience tends to hold up just as well -if not better- than regular television.

Watch a psychological series like Higurashi or Steins;Gate and you'll see that anime can tell a story just as well -if not better- than regular TV or a live movie. Watch an action series like Hellsing Ultimate or Black Lagoon and you'll see that anime can lay down action just as well -if not better- than a Quentin Tarantino movie or a grindhouse flick. Watch a philosophical series intertwined with cyberpunk action like Ergo Proxy or Ghost in the Shell, and you'll see that anime can make you think just a good -if not better- than reading something considerably less entertaining such as philosophical works.

TL;DR There's a different genre of anime for every age group. Don't generalize anime as a whole because of what little you've seen/heard of.
#363 to #346 - anonymous (09/11/2013) [-]
Pwnedomega here, too what the ****** to log in. Ever watch Basilisk?
#465 to #363 - thundagawd (09/11/2013) [-]
Not yet, I've been meaning to watch it for quite some time, but I have too much other **** to watch at the moment, but not enough time to watch it all.
User avatar #189 to #29 - avatarsarefornoobs (09/11/2013) [-]
i get the same vibe
the ones for kids were ok when i was a kid, and the ones for adults are usually borderline pornographic. also i never cared for subs, always preferred dubs and some of those are so horrible its unwatchable.
theres good anime but... i find stuff from my homeland to be much better
User avatar #637 to #189 - christmouth ONLINE (09/11/2013) [-]
Try to look into Monster, HBO is going to make a live action series about it, so it isn't the usual fanservice'isi thing you see on the frontpage.
User avatar #116 to #29 - Nihatclodra (09/11/2013) [-]
Different Anime are made for different age groups, including series for adults (and no, I'm not talking about ****** ).
User avatar #107 to #29 - aerius (09/11/2013) [-]
protip: trr series that are aimed at your age group
User avatar #80 to #29 - epsilonwolf **User deleted account** (09/10/2013) [-]
To assume that all anime is a bunch of annoying **** just sounds like you've never seen any. There's anime like that, and then things like One Piece, AoT, Soul Eater, Bleach, etc.
User avatar #439 to #80 - vinylshark (09/11/2013) [-]
I've watched animes. But after less than a minute they annoy me so much that I just have to stop watching.
This whole over the top, super power non-sense and girls that are 50% made out of boobs stuff is really annoying to watch. At least for me.
User avatar #141 to #80 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
Probably not the best examples to give diversity when everything you listed is shounen.
User avatar #199 to #141 - snowshark (09/11/2013) [-]
It is not their shounen nature I quibble with, because there are very good shounen out there with Eureka Seven and Fullmetal Alchemist being examples. The problem is that the examples he gave were massively flawed ones riddled with many of the recurring problems people have with anime as a genre (but I've already gone into that in some detail below if you're interested.)
User avatar #205 to #199 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
I wasn't talking about shouen being bad. I said that doesn't show diversity when they're all for the same audience.
User avatar #119 to #80 - epsilonwolf **User deleted account** (09/11/2013) [-]
Dont know that many, just named some ones i liked
User avatar #147 to #119 - snowshark (09/11/2013) [-]
I'd also like to add to what Nihatclodra said by mentioning that Bleach is crap. It's got a magnificent style to it and some fun characters but in terms of writing it is crap and is loaded with a lot of the things that people who dislike anime complain about.

Constant yelling, gross-out/childish humour, inconsistent tone and the shifts can give people wiplash if they're not careful.

Bizarrely One Piece, the show with the guy that makes his face bigger and winks people to death is actually much more consistent than bleach, which has a far more serious tone to it.

However even then One Piece, from the outside and honestly the inside too in a lot of cases, carries a lot of the things people dislike about anime. Elastic character design, mindless humour (that sometimes even factors into the plot), overly-stylised sexualisation of women, loud and irritating noises, bizarre visuals that are more commonly found in children's programming (even though the tone of One Piece is anything but.)

Soul Eater is closer to the mark in it's stylised nature. More down to earth than One Piece and more consistent than Bleach but not as well written as one piece (thankfully better written than Bleach.)

AoT? Great animation but go back and watch it again. It is the most melodramatic thing I've seen in a LONG time. Armin just has to explain Eren's condition and win over the armed forces but it is played so over the top, so intensely that it is comical. I can't take the series seriously because it keeps piling on the intensity and pressure, demonstrating a complete misunderstanding of the basics of film-making. (The Manga's good, though.)

What I want to get across to you here is that there are genuine reasons why people don't like anime. Reasons that can be analysed and explained and your comment demonstrates the wrong manner in which to engage with these people.

If you like I can suggest anime that do adhere to the observed rules of film and that do make a good case for the art-form.
User avatar #392 to #147 - zomaru (09/11/2013) [-]
Actually, not that I disagree with you on bleach, The reason its so bad is because they pulled a DBZ and added in filler that lasted seasons to tell a story for, when the Manga was almost 10x shorter and much more to the point.

I think the biggest problem with Anime today is the sheer amount of unnecessary filler, and that so many people would rather know the end of a story after 50+ episodes then sit through another story arc pulled out of a writers ass for money.
User avatar #616 to #392 - snowshark (09/11/2013) [-]
Actually, the anime is better than the manga in my eyes. Those filler arcs were more interesting and dynamic than the main conflict revolving around Aizen and Las Noches. It was massively flawed in many ways, growing ever more departed from the elements that made the soul-society arc so strong. (Namely that all of the characters were interesting and got to do something... except Chad who continues to this day to get the shaft.)

Ichigo continued to get stronger and stronger to the point where the only legitimate means to make him stronger was to turn him into a messiah with all of the powers of the other characters in the story. (Fullbringer, Hollow, Shinigami, Quincy)

It focussed less on the characters it had and more on introducing countless new characters which, granted, were interesting but because there were so many characters... I could go for days on this so perhaps I had best stop, unless you're willing to conduct this debate, of course.
User avatar #118 to #80 - Nihatclodra (09/11/2013) [-]
the anime you listed have an early-teen demographic (and AoT has a Mid-to-Late Teen Demographic)... not the best examples when talking about " ****** " anime.
User avatar #59 to #29 - mrefox (09/10/2013) [-]
I'd ask you to list everything you watch. I'll judge you off that. You can leave out your porn stash.
And, if you like, I'll list what I watch (or try to keep up with).
User avatar #58 to #29 - blacklite (09/10/2013) [-]
You probably haven't seen much decent anime then.
User avatar #50 to #29 - headharvest (09/10/2013) [-]
ehh, its a medium, a medium full of little girls dressing in over elaberate revealing outfits, but every once in a while you can find a jem
User avatar #90 to #50 - zomaru (09/11/2013) [-]
Ehh, The Moe stage should be over in a year or 2.
#32 to #29 - zomaru (09/10/2013) [-]
Because an anime about girls who drive tanks as part of their school is allot more interesting then Honey Bo-Bo or Duck Dynasty.
#545 to #32 - anonymous (09/11/2013) [-]
I do this on behalf of my third grade teacher, who used to stress this as often as possible to the class...

A LOT IS TWO SEPERATE WORDS.
I have a lot of x
I have a pound of x
I have a flock of x
I have a ton of x
I have a bunch of x I really like x, apparently.

Anon'd because nobody likes grammar Nazis. But this has been a pet peeve of mine since it was drilled into me when I was 8, and people thrice that age still don't get it. Hopefully you've learned a thing now.
#384 to #32 - hideyokidz (09/11/2013) [-]
I would actually like to know that anime name pls
I would actually like to know that anime name pls
#388 to #384 - zomaru (09/11/2013) [-]
Girls und Panzer
There is a link for it near the bottom of my profile, or a list for 1080p torrents with a slightly better sub (The link is Trollsub, it works but they are ass holes)
Or, if you want to wait, They are currently working on a professional dub.
User avatar #348 to #32 - mrdrpage (09/11/2013) [-]
I don't even watch tv (apart from when The Walking Dead is showing a new episode), but the girls with tanks sounds much more interesting.
User avatar #312 to #32 - mexicandudeinsd (09/11/2013) [-]
duck dynasty is more interesting than anime.....
User avatar #143 to #32 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
Hey man, Duck Dynasty is funny.
User avatar #157 to #143 - zomaru (09/11/2013) [-]
Reminds me too much of Jackass.
#139 to #32 - roykynx (09/11/2013) [-]
the fact you compare your anime to garbage TV further proves Vinyl's point.

"Because listening to Justin Beiber is alot more interesting than Nicki Minaj..."

^that's what you sound like

Your ****** Anime's have garbage plots made specifically for young children. It's the same as watching MLP. However, there are great animes with cinematic qualities that exist, that don't give you virgins boners. We all know you watch Anime like this, and then go ********** .
User avatar #498 to #139 - poncakeforlife (09/11/2013) [-]
"Your ****** Anime's have garbage plots"

You haven't watched one good anime in your life have you? Not all anime is based on highschool girls who drink tea the entire time you know. There are anime out there like Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood and Attack on Titan that has really well written story-lines. Anime is simply Japanese animation. It doesn't fall into a particular category. Just because one anime show is aimed toward children doesn't mean that ALL anime is aimed towards children. It's sort of like saying that South Park and The Powerpuff Girls are both the same show because they are animated. When any person who actually watched both shows will clearly know that the two shows are nothing like each other.
#156 to #139 - zomaru (09/11/2013) [-]
If I wanted to masterbate to something, I got Henti. When I watch anime, I want either plot or action. In this case, its action.    
   
Also, I think this anime can qualify as "Cinematic" qualities seeing as the detail on the tanks is Exact and there are no reused sequences because the Entire budget was spent on tank animation.
If I wanted to masterbate to something, I got Henti. When I watch anime, I want either plot or action. In this case, its action.

Also, I think this anime can qualify as "Cinematic" qualities seeing as the detail on the tanks is Exact and there are no reused sequences because the Entire budget was spent on tank animation.
#487 to #442 - zomaru (09/11/2013) [-]
I see no "Plot" here, your argument is invalid.
User avatar #192 to #156 - snowshark (09/11/2013) [-]
Right. Zomaru, Roykynx. This will be going nowhere at this rate so let's sew this up nice and tight.

Roy. Anything can have cinematic qualities, including the tank anime. It may not have the same amount as say Eureka Seven or Trigun but that does not mean it doesn't have good elements. As I expect you are a lover of film, we need to be above the thought that some things are beyond respect.

Zomaru. The Tank anime is chaff. It's not bad per-say but it is very similar to the concept of Honey Boo Boo because what it is is very simple, gratifying television. Whilst I'd never go so far as to say it is on the same level, it has similar elements to it's appeal in that it's appeal is largely superficial. It's cute girls with big guns. The point Roy is attempting to convey to you is that he believes anime is better than that and that just because you like something doesn't mean it is instantly good/better than things other people like.

What is more, there are a number of astoundingly valid criticisms of anime as a genre and the cliches and tropes found abundantly throughout that just turn people off from it. Whilst there is likely always going to be an anime to suit their tastes, some people just don't have the time, patience or the want to sift through the things they don't like in order to find it.

Now, can we stop portraying anime fans (as I assume we three all are) as squabbling infants like people like to portray us and deal with this situation, our differences and our opinions in a sensible, reasonable manner in-keeping with the way we and our fandom(s) wish to be seen?

Also, Roy, MLP is freaking dope. But yeah it's not on the same level as Bebop or Ghost in the Shell by any means. A fun distraction aided by a wonderful community, if you can stomach the cheesiness of it all.
#216 to #192 - roykynx (09/11/2013) [-]
I wish I could thumb you. Thanks for the clarification, i truly appreciate it.
User avatar #224 to #216 - snowshark (09/11/2013) [-]
Well, I don't mean to lecture but it isn't terribly difficult. It's simply a matter of approaching everyone as though they're human beings as opposed to names and avatar pictures. It's pretty corny and coming from a Brony I guess it's somewhat of a stereotype but I find you get into more interesting conversations when you take the time to establish thedirection you're coming from and bridge the gap.

The problem is that it's much easier said than done, especially when the schooling system teaches people algebra but not self-restraint or caring for their mental condition. Y'know... less-specific things that are insanely crucial to one's life and development.
#240 to #224 - roykynx (09/11/2013) [-]
You might as well take our your Articulately fouled position, and outright tell me that I'm an ******* .
User avatar #261 to #240 - snowshark (09/11/2013) [-]
Why would I do that when I don't think that?
#273 to #261 - roykynx (09/11/2013) [-]
"The problem is that it's much easier said than done, especially when the schooling system teaches people algebra but not self-restraint or caring for their mental condition (caring for mental condition, what?). Y'know... less-specific things that are insanely crucial to one's life and development."

^Implying that I'm not educated enough to articulate, or convey, an idea or concept to another; without engaging in primal, inefficient counterpoints.

Maybe I'm cynical, but there seemed no need to include that.
User avatar #291 to #273 - snowshark (09/11/2013) [-]
That was more of a statement on how the education system doesn't teach people some of the most important aspects of life, leaving them to learn them (and sometimes not) on their own time. Factor in the internet and the boon of anonymity and lack of consequence for people's actions and holding a decent conversation can become an uphill struggle.

It wasn't a dig at you and the term "mental condition" does not imply an adverse one or any form of deviancy from the norm, rather how to regulate one's emotions, be mindful of your surroundings, being grateful for what you have and all that new-age bollocks that surprisingly isn't bollocks but still sounds like it even when you do it because the people who tell you about it are either hippies or have their heads up their own arses.

The point I was attempting to make is that the culture we live in and by extension the internet isn't the easiest place to keep a civil head about one's self. You got dragged into an argument. It doesn't make you an ******** , rather is highlights how easy it is to be dragged into arguments on the web and how much more we need to work to bring the best kind of conversations out of other people.

Even I seem to have stepped on a landmine to the point where you got the complete wrong end of the stick. (Not your fault, mind. The lack of visual/audio cues makes semantics a bitch at the best of times.)

Perhaps you are a touch cynical. It's not for me to judge. But this does just seem to be a case of crossed wires.
#236 to #224 - roykynx (09/11/2013) [-]
Well, you're lecture is unnecessary. In fact, i retake my position of thumbing you.
#165 to #156 - roykynx (09/11/2013) [-]
Your "action" is basically clothed sex... It's ludicrous
User avatar #188 to #165 - zomaru (09/11/2013) [-]
You have never seen the anime..... Ever.... Have you?
#191 to #188 - roykynx (09/11/2013) [-]
Yes, I've viewed an episode of two. The dialogue was overwhelmingly childish, the action involved the glorification of sex, and any "action" scenes were overdone and filled with childish attributes.

If you care to give me an example proving otherwise, I'd change my opinion.
User avatar #478 to #191 - gamergay (09/11/2013) [-]
Hellsing Ultimate. that's all
#163 to #156 - roykynx (09/11/2013) [-]
"anime can qualify as "Cinematic"" ... just because a tank has detail doesn't mean it has cinematic qualities. Have you ever taken a film course? I don't see how you can enjoy these animes, other than the fact that you love watching fake girls slut themselves.
#125 to #32 - Noblevillain (09/11/2013) [-]
Hell yeah, Girls und Panzer.
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#111 to #32 - Soviet Savior (09/11/2013) [-]
Whats this about duck dynasty?
User avatar #83 to #32 - thewickedgoose ONLINE (09/11/2013) [-]
well there's more to watch than just those 2 shows
User avatar #54 to #32 - enemyoftrn (09/10/2013) [-]
Thanks to that little midget of a tank commander, I learn how to sip tea after I ingest some fruit preserve.
And the main characters' dance in the end of that winter episode. So cute.
And the tank drifting. TANK DRIFTING. How is that not cool?
User avatar #36 to #32 - vinylshark (09/10/2013) [-]
Whats Honey Bo Bo or Duck Dynasty?
User avatar #37 to #36 - zomaru (09/10/2013) [-]
The prevailing american shows that people in the 18-30 age bracket are supposed to enjoy... They are **** .
User avatar #52 to #37 - enemyoftrn (09/10/2013) [-]
I wish for a chance to hunt down the Duck Dynasty family...
Enlighten me, is it a scripted series or those rednecks are actually that idiotic?
User avatar #71 to #52 - maplesyrupman (09/10/2013) [-]
They're actually smart people that have gone to college, but the producers make them act dumb because everyone loves a goofy ol' hillbilly.

I have nothing to say about Honey Boo Boo though.
User avatar #73 to #71 - enemyoftrn (09/10/2013) [-]
Yeah, the 'wife' acting was obviously scripted, from that one cursed afternoon I was forced to watched with my cousins.
Honey Boo Boo was just an abomination. Why isn't Child Protective Service in your country do anything about it? A lawsuit, a legal action? Anything?
User avatar #76 to #73 - maplesyrupman (09/10/2013) [-]
Because Everybody "Loves a good ol' hillbilly." With half of our culture coming from the southern states, people get in to weird **** lol.

And I don't know what it takes in this country to cause someone to take another persons kid away.
User avatar #78 to #76 - enemyoftrn (09/10/2013) [-]
There was a video posted here, a day or two ago, about Child Protection Agent who were way too biased for the father. I wonder if I can find it again.
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