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pt l i - "51- How many more school shootings needle happen before people realize that guns should be illegal?
t" L"" rire -firin How many schools are left?
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#16 - goseikiba (07/20/2014) [+] (9 replies)
And remember kids, guns don't kill people, dangerous minorities do.
Warning: Guns are extremely dangerous. Do not purchase, own, clean, operate, or be near guns at any time

Ah, the good ol' days when Family Guy was still funny with small segments of liberal jokes and Brian wasn't a douche yet.
User avatar #1 - usarmyexplain (07/20/2014) [+] (138 replies)
But should guns be illegal?
User avatar #26 to #4 - wotterpatch (07/20/2014) [-]
How ******* old i that, it has west germany on it
#133 - freedombirdman (07/20/2014) [+] (5 replies)
School shootings make up a tiny portion of gun crimes in the US, which in themselves only account for about 8% of all violent crime. Quite a bit of the frenzy surrounding school shootings in America is thanks to media hype, it is not this huge epidemic, although it is a tragedy whenever innocent young lives are taken. More importantly, mass shootings almost exclusively occur in 'gun free zones' since criminals know they will not face opposition.

I could name a whole slew of reasons why gun control does not decrease crime nor make people safer, but it would both take up too much space for one comment and probably fall on deaf ears. I have stated many of them in some form or another in previous comments, so I will leave you with this:

If we ban guns under the pretense that people are too 'stupid, violent, and unpredictable' to use them, then what else should we ban? How about cars, cigarettes, power tools, alcohol, etc... (all things that individually cause many times the number of deaths guns cause per year). If we believe that every individual is inherently free and has natural rights, then we must also assume that everyone has the capability to be responsible and independent. If we concede that people are indeed too irresponsible to handle guns, then we concede that citizens are not free and must rely on a 'superior' government for guidance in everyday affairs (ironic, as the government is made up equally flawed individuals). If we concede that people cannot handle the responsibility of basic liberties, then we open the door to tyranny and dictatorship. If we wish to be free individuals, we must be willing to take responsibility for every facet of our well-being, including self defense.
#119 - endospore (07/20/2014) [+] (1 reply)
After Chicago legalized concealed carry of firearms, the rate of firearm related crimes dropped nine percent.

But keep saying that more guns means more crime.

www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/04/gun-control-advocates-who-say-more-guns-equal-more-crime-might-not-want-to-read-this/
User avatar #68 - definitelynotarab (07/20/2014) [+] (9 replies)
America: The only place in the world where people think owning guns is "freedom"
User avatar #69 to #68 - heartlessrobot (07/20/2014) [-]
They're free to own guns, how is being allowed to have something not freedom?
#104 - ronnywillkillyou (07/20/2014) [+] (28 replies)
Okay my opinion on making guns illegal. since when do criminals murderers gang members and the insane listen to the law anyway?
#95 - pebar (07/20/2014) [+] (9 replies)
Massacres are completely insignificant to gun crime in America....
A couple dozen people die each year in massacres, vs the ten thousand from everything else. A big chunk of which is gang violence.

Boo hoo 20 children died in Sandy Hook.
That's a good weekend in Chicago.
#229 - badjokepony (07/21/2014) [+] (3 replies)
A guy with a gun enters a bar.
"Who the **** had sex with my wife?" he snarled.
A voice was heard in the background, "You don't have enough bullets mate!"
#88 - harryboom (07/20/2014) [+] (8 replies)
i still can't understand the taught process of a country that thinks that owning guns is a basic human right but universal healthcare is the devil.
#94 to #88 - xxxsonic fanxxx (07/20/2014) [-]
With a gun, you are free to own one - if you do not want one, you do not need to get one. No further cost is involved.
With Universal Healthcare, you pay for it regardless of whether or not you use it. If you want healthcare, you can go get health insurance.

It's simply about allowing individuals to do as they wish with their life with as little intervention from the government as necessary.
If you don't think that such should be the case then that's fine, but regardless the logic is pretty straight forward, and all this is from a European.
User avatar #124 - ninegagnazi (07/20/2014) [+] (13 replies)
Guns should be illegal. They cause gang violence and school massacres.

And video games with guns in them should be illegal too because they teach children that violence is OK.
#108 - ronnywillkillyou (07/20/2014) [-]
We should ban everything in america that can be used as a weapon, in fact lets just decapitate everybody so nobody can kill eachother.
User avatar #213 - aSARendarsFJWINWIN (07/21/2014) [+] (1 reply)
I was in that thread!


But really how many more children have to die before you realize mental health is the problem, not guns?
User avatar #116 - gibroner ONLINE (07/20/2014) [+] (14 replies)
Why is that people see school shootings and say "okay we need to outlaw guns" and not "okay we need to figure what's making people want to shoot up schools"?
User avatar #117 - chuca (07/20/2014) [+] (10 replies)
and lets ignore the fact its usually a gun which stops the shooting as well
#225 - xxxsonic fanxxx (07/21/2014) [-]
i dont think the guns themselves have anything to do with the massive rise of school shootings. rather, i think the media is to blame. the shooters get so much publicity and news coverage that they basically become celebrities over night. instead of being chastized (sp?) and punished and banished, people come up with excuses for their behavior and some news sources even bring up the shooters attractiveness which garner the shooters fan clubs, ala the boston marathon shooter. so in all, i think its a quick rise to fame and a way they can view themselves as "significant". going out with a bang.
#203 - philosophyxplain (07/21/2014) [+] (14 replies)
Doesn't even matter what role guns have in causing crime, it shows all around the world that less guns = less crime. Purely pragmatic.
Doesn't even matter what role guns have in causing crime, it shows all around the world that less guns = less crime. Purely pragmatic.
User avatar #239 to #203 - durkadurka (07/21/2014) [-]
At first I thought this was bait, that's how bad this post is.

How do guns cause crime (A: they don't). A hammer doesn't cause construction, a spoon doesn't cause eating, and a gun doesn't cause crime.
Guns get used in crimes, but this is entirely different from saying that they cause crime.

It is equally egregious to say that reducing the number of firearms reduces crimes. How do firearms affect white collar crime, prostitution, traffic violations, etc? There are a whole slew of crimes that are not attached to the number of guns in existence. So this leaves us with a very narrow spectrum of crime that could actually be affected by the number of firearms.

And this begs the question: Does the absence of firearms somehow make us better people? The obvious answer is no. People will still be just as horrible (and good). Ultimately we are better off letting the defenseless defend themselves with the weapons that will let them defeat even the strongest attackers.

Your position is not pragmatic, it is emotional. The pragmatic solution is to let people make their own self defense decisions instead of dictating it for them.
#155 - metajunky (07/20/2014) [-]
Never believed in the hype about "banning guns" and I know that mass shootings only make up a small percentage of violent crimes, but they are still far more prevalent here than in other developed countries.  Something needs to be done about them, no matter how complicated the issue is.  I love living in the U.S., but even more than being tragic, these shootings, and our lack of action against them, and how we react to them, and our scapegoats/fingerpointing for the causes of them, and all of the 						*******					 defeatists who believe nothing can be done about them, are 						*******					 disgraceful  /rant
Never believed in the hype about "banning guns" and I know that mass shootings only make up a small percentage of violent crimes, but they are still far more prevalent here than in other developed countries. Something needs to be done about them, no matter how complicated the issue is. I love living in the U.S., but even more than being tragic, these shootings, and our lack of action against them, and how we react to them, and our scapegoats/fingerpointing for the causes of them, and all of the ******* defeatists who believe nothing can be done about them, are ******* disgraceful /rant
#112 - xxxsonic fanxxx (07/20/2014) [-]
trolling: seems like the problem is schools, not guns. ban schools.
#184 - chokinandtokin (07/21/2014) [+] (1 reply)
#120 - xxxsonic fanxxx (07/20/2014) [-]
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