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#18 - akho
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(11/02/2013) [-]
cis - was he talking about the Federation?

I was so confused for a moment as to whether that was a typo or actual star wars reference.
#26 to #18 - unknownmercury
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#30 to #26 - thebannedzombie
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(11/02/2013) [-]
Uh, that's not how it works. Cis means that you are born a dude, think you are a dude, behave like a dude, and "identify" as a dude. I.E. cis is the funky name people with weird fetishes made up so that they wouldn't have to call everyone else "normal". If he is a trans, it means he is the exact opposite of cis.
#31 to #30 - unknownmercury
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#32 to #31 - thebannedzombie
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(11/02/2013) [-]
Then he is an idiot. That isn't even remotely close to what it means. You, assuming you are a male, were born a male, and don't have any gender identity issues are in face a cis. He is a trans, end of story.
#59 to #32 - thirdjess
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(11/02/2013) [-]
I hate it when people delete their half of the argument.
#68 to #59 - thebannedzombie
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(11/03/2013) [-]
#26 - Cisgendered means born of one gender or another. For instance, my brother was born a cis female but is now a trans male
#31 - He refers to me as a cis male. He refers to himself as a cis female.


#28 - Yep. But he was born female, hence 'Cis.'
#69 to #68 - thirdjess
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(11/03/2013) [-]
Thank you! Makes me wonder, slightly guiltily, if someone in the community has no idea of the definitions they're either frightfully excluded or going through a phase, neither of which are particularly good. I've only ever met two gendercurious individual in my life and I know the definition of cisgender. The one gendercurious I've kept in touch with is not non-gender (does not identify as male or female) and it's downright confusing because you can't use he's or she's- but rather broader terms like they.
#70 to #69 - thebannedzombie
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(11/03/2013) [-]
Eh, they can call themselves whatever they like, phase or not. I just dislike people spreading misinformation and getting pissy when you point out that they are wrong. As for your friend, I would start using it and when it objects, challenge it to come up with a better personal pronoun for themselves which better reflects their declared personage.

Also, if you are ever curious about a deleted comment, click on their profile and scroll down to their recent comments. The comments still show up there.
#71 to #70 - thirdjess
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(11/03/2013) [-]
Ah right, I have my profile set on private so I forgot that was a thing you could do. No I respect their choice, they don't identify as male or female and that doesn't affect me in the slightest, outside of having to put that little effort into making sure all my he's are they's. If you can have sexually grey areas like pansexual and asexual why can't there be gender grey areas, you know?
#34 to #32 - unknownmercury
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(11/02/2013) [-]
I have better things to do with my time than argue. You think what you want, I'll believe what I've been told by someone actually in the trans community. Good day.
#36 to #34 - thebannedzombie
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(11/02/2013) [-]
oxford dictionary:
> adjective
denoting or relating to a person whose self-identity conforms with the gender that corresponds to their biological sex:
Wikipedia:
Cisgender and cissexual (often abbreviated to simply cis) describe related types of gender identity where an individual's self-perception of their gender matches the sex they were assigned at birth.

This isn't a debate. Or an argument.

Also, seeing as cisgender is as far outside the trans community as you can get, that's like saying that only white people are allowed to know what the word "black" means.
#40 to #36 - bandgeekster
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(11/02/2013) [-]
This made me smile. I love it when over opinionated idiots argue with smart people. And lose. Miserably.
#72 to #40 - akho
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(11/03/2013) [-]
Haha, he just had better things to do.

Makes a solid point to, see, you think what you want. Can't argue with that.

And you know, if someone from a specific community tells you something, he must be an authority because he is part of that community.

Being gay gives you knowledge about everything that relates to gayness.
#27 to #26 - anon
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(11/02/2013) [-]
He's still a guy
#28 to #27 - unknownmercury
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#29 to #28 - anon
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(11/02/2013) [-]
Oh, I thought he was born male and then became a female.