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#1
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MuahahaOfLore (12/15/2012) [+]
(7 replies)
agree with OP
read court case where principal garbed shotgun from his car and killed a student before the student could shoot another bunch of people with his assault rifle.
the principal saved countless lives but was fired for having a gun.
read court case where principal garbed shotgun from his car and killed a student before the student could shoot another bunch of people with his assault rifle.
the principal saved countless lives but was fired for having a gun.
Well, look at Switzerland.
Everyone is legally required to be armed, and there is virtually no crime.
Everyone is legally required to be armed, and there is virtually no crime.
#122
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angelusprimus (12/15/2012) [+]
(13 replies)
Anyone noticed how many of those "overpaid" and "spoiled" "worthless" teachers died trying to protect the kids?
Like Vicky Soto hiding the kids in the closets and then staying outside the closet, telling the shooter kids are in the gym, and getting shot.
Like principal and psychologist who ran straight at the shooter to try to take him down and got killed.
And why did two men rushing a shooter who already fired several times died? Because shooter had an assault rifle.
I have nothing against people owning hunting rifles or hand guns for home defense. I own a gun myself. Taught my gf to shoot and got her one too.
But there is absolutely no reason for private citizens to be able to get their hands on military grade assault rifles. With no psychology check up, with nothing more then waiting for three days for it.
If he had a hunting rifle, or a hand gun, he would have been taken down when he stopped to reload. Assault rifle he had comes with 30+1 rounds. 28 dead.
Oh and you can legally buy it online. 950 bucks. Ships for free. No matter if you are a mental patient with homocidal tendencies. No one cares. It ships free.
So yeah, I don't want anyone to take guns away. But god damnit some CONTROL would be nice.
Like Vicky Soto hiding the kids in the closets and then staying outside the closet, telling the shooter kids are in the gym, and getting shot.
Like principal and psychologist who ran straight at the shooter to try to take him down and got killed.
And why did two men rushing a shooter who already fired several times died? Because shooter had an assault rifle.
I have nothing against people owning hunting rifles or hand guns for home defense. I own a gun myself. Taught my gf to shoot and got her one too.
But there is absolutely no reason for private citizens to be able to get their hands on military grade assault rifles. With no psychology check up, with nothing more then waiting for three days for it.
If he had a hunting rifle, or a hand gun, he would have been taken down when he stopped to reload. Assault rifle he had comes with 30+1 rounds. 28 dead.
Oh and you can legally buy it online. 950 bucks. Ships for free. No matter if you are a mental patient with homocidal tendencies. No one cares. It ships free.
So yeah, I don't want anyone to take guns away. But god damnit some CONTROL would be nice.
#44
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antisocialtwilight (12/15/2012) [+]
(25 replies)
Ban guns?
Are you insane?
Like it's said in the related picture, we need guns in case the government goes 1984 on our asses, or if we're invaded by foreign nations.
We can't just ban guns because of the actions of a few mad people.
So what, you think guns should be banned because of some people shot up a school?
Fine, then by your logic, the internet should be shut off because of the deaths caused by cyber-bullying, all cars should be decommissioned for causing deaths, consuming fossil fuels, and endangering the environment, and all painkillers should be abolished for the deaths of people overdosing on them and all humans on the planet should be exterminated for killing each other in every conceivable situation in history. But tell the cancer patient that painkillers should be abolished, tell the average internet user that it should be shut off, tell any sane modern person that cars should be decommissioned, they they will look at your like you're fucking insane, because it is insane!
In this modern day and age, we are playing with Promethean fire, and there will always be collateral damage, it's how we evolve.
Are you insane?
Like it's said in the related picture, we need guns in case the government goes 1984 on our asses, or if we're invaded by foreign nations.
We can't just ban guns because of the actions of a few mad people.
So what, you think guns should be banned because of some people shot up a school?
Fine, then by your logic, the internet should be shut off because of the deaths caused by cyber-bullying, all cars should be decommissioned for causing deaths, consuming fossil fuels, and endangering the environment, and all painkillers should be abolished for the deaths of people overdosing on them and all humans on the planet should be exterminated for killing each other in every conceivable situation in history. But tell the cancer patient that painkillers should be abolished, tell the average internet user that it should be shut off, tell any sane modern person that cars should be decommissioned, they they will look at your like you're fucking insane, because it is insane!
In this modern day and age, we are playing with Promethean fire, and there will always be collateral damage, it's how we evolve.
#158
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spatialstatus ONLINE (12/15/2012) [+]
(3 replies)
For all you "gun control to stop crime" faggots
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I support common sense gun control. I think that someone should have to have an evaluation to see if they are mentally fit to own a gun. a lot of the recent tragedies could have been avoided if that was in place. The counter argument is that people who want a gun badly will find a way to get one. I admit that this is true, but crazy Joe probably isn't in with the maffia so getting a gun would at least be very difficult.
What really pisses me off though is the religious crazies saying that the reason this happened is because we took god out of schools. Or the mother fucking Westboro Baptist Church saying that god sent the shooter. This boiled my blood.
What really pisses me off though is the religious crazies saying that the reason this happened is because we took god out of schools. Or the mother fucking Westboro Baptist Church saying that god sent the shooter. This boiled my blood.
#176
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edzeppelin (12/15/2012) [+]
(2 replies)
I wouldn't mind my teacher carrying a gun if it was Lana Caine.
#163
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candyjust (12/15/2012) [-]
All these people are talking about banning guns and don't realize that it would be just as easy for the guy to have used a bomb instead and the results could have been more devastating. Hell, you can even look up how to make one on the internet.
Here's my input on things. If you take away the right to bear arms, then you take away the weapons from people who legally acquired them, went through training, and are using them for defense/hunting/collecting. You will not take it away from the people who got them through shadier means, because they already don't care about the law, what makes you think that they are going to give up their gun just because your country banned them.
^This is the problem.
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\/ This is the solution.
In the case of controlling how guns are legally bought; when people want to buy a gun, legally, they must first obtain a license. The way they go about it is taking a training course. If they fail it, no license. Then they go take a psych test and an IQ test, if they passed the training course. If they fail it, and turn up mentally unstable, or racist, or an alcoholic/junkie, then no license. There will also be a license to carry a concealable weapon in cities that will be easier to get if you already have the first. Both will need to be renewed every 3-5 years.
Now with their newly acquired gun license, they can just go online and- nope. Guns will be prohibited to be sold through the internet because these licenses could be forged with photoshop, or you could just swipe somebody else's. They will only be sold at stores.
Lastly, if you kill a man in self defense, and he has the same killing power as you do, (ex: handgun vs handgun, knife vs baseball bat, shotgun vs assault rifle), then the killer should not be charged with manslaughter, but instead have to retake the training and psych tests to prove he/she isn't fucked up after just killing a man. But if it was done without a gun, just take a psych test for future reference.
And that's all I've got to say about that.
^This is the problem.
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\/ This is the solution.
In the case of controlling how guns are legally bought; when people want to buy a gun, legally, they must first obtain a license. The way they go about it is taking a training course. If they fail it, no license. Then they go take a psych test and an IQ test, if they passed the training course. If they fail it, and turn up mentally unstable, or racist, or an alcoholic/junkie, then no license. There will also be a license to carry a concealable weapon in cities that will be easier to get if you already have the first. Both will need to be renewed every 3-5 years.
Now with their newly acquired gun license, they can just go online and- nope. Guns will be prohibited to be sold through the internet because these licenses could be forged with photoshop, or you could just swipe somebody else's. They will only be sold at stores.
Lastly, if you kill a man in self defense, and he has the same killing power as you do, (ex: handgun vs handgun, knife vs baseball bat, shotgun vs assault rifle), then the killer should not be charged with manslaughter, but instead have to retake the training and psych tests to prove he/she isn't fucked up after just killing a man. But if it was done without a gun, just take a psych test for future reference.
And that's all I've got to say about that.
I'm going to be an elementary teacher when I get out of college. I've been shooting all of my life, and I truly believe I could protect my class if I were allowed a gun. Something in .45 with magsafe, or some other frangible bullet. No penetration, so you don't have to worry about what or who is standing behind the shooter. Unfortunately, since this will never happen, all I can do is close and lock the door and hope that whoever is walking around the school with a gun doesn't decide that he/she needs to kill everyone in my classroom.
This is my own personal opinion, I understand that you who read this may have problems with anyone having a weapon on school grounds of any kind.
This is my own personal opinion, I understand that you who read this may have problems with anyone having a weapon on school grounds of any kind.
#220
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allcontent (12/15/2012) [+]
(19 replies)
All the fucktards voting to arm schools and ban guns are dumbasses.
For one, its already illegal to have any weapons on school, and HEY WHILE WERE
AT IT lets just put guns in the classroom as well.
If guns are banned do YOU REALLY THINK that will stop anyone from getting more?
they will just move to other weapons such as bombs chemicals and knives.
Also the gunban would make some serious riots and wars within the us and its civilians. Jesus think with your brains people.
Dont let your vaginas balls and emotions lead your discussion.
For one, its already illegal to have any weapons on school, and HEY WHILE WERE
AT IT lets just put guns in the classroom as well.
If guns are banned do YOU REALLY THINK that will stop anyone from getting more?
they will just move to other weapons such as bombs chemicals and knives.
Also the gunban would make some serious riots and wars within the us and its civilians. Jesus think with your brains people.
Dont let your vaginas balls and emotions lead your discussion.
Guns kind of have a Laffer curve, with people with guns corresponding to crime rate.
If no one has a gun, there's less crime, then if everyone has a gun, there's less crime, but a very unfair distribution is where there's the most.
If no one has a gun, there's less crime, then if everyone has a gun, there's less crime, but a very unfair distribution is where there's the most.
#291
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aerosol (12/15/2012) [-]
To those of you in the comments who are angry(for whatever reason that may be):
<look at this gif and be calmed.
just trying lighten the mood.
<look at this gif and be calmed.
just trying lighten the mood.
In Arizona everyone is allowed to carry a gun out in public, they hardly have any crime there.
#183
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N. Korean citizen (12/15/2012) [+]
(1 reply)
This isnt actually a bad idea. If you think back to the 18th century when the constitution was first written up, EVERYONE had quick access to a gun, and guess what? People didnt fuck with other people because everyone was most likely carrying a gun on them. Stricter gun laws would only harm the public more than help it.