So you dismissed an entire game that in general has a far better community than most online shooters after one bad experience? Little bit hasty? Maybe its different on aus servers, but I very rarely saw kids on any of our more popular servers, and when they did talk on mic the whole server would just mute them rather quickly. Ironically, it seems the cartoonish graphics made kids less likely to play tf2 because they thought they're too grown up for it. valve servers did suck though, i'll admit.