If America wasn't ****** over by this right now I would be applying for a goddamn greencard.

He is basically planning a war against muslims.
A war against 1.6 billion people.

He doesn't understand or know about the basic documents and agreements that the US absolutely has to uphold like NAFTA, the Geneva Convention, and the US Constitution.

NAFTA can go **** itself.

You've got some validity, but at least the other Republican nominees weren't thinking of imposing trade legislation on mexico so it's government would pay for a border wall

He's a blatant racist. He does not care about women's rights, and he's only going to make the rich richer and the poor more poor.

I'm not entirely a Trump supporter but his tax plan is very liberal.
He plans to lower taxes on the poor and tax the rich heavily.
He actually said that people below a certain income wont even have to pay taxes.
He even joked that his tax plan would cost him a lot of money.
That doesnt sound like making the rich richer and the poor poorer to me?

Like he'd ACTUALLY do that. Even if he wanted to, which that "joke" shows that no man in his position would ever do, there's no way congress would allow it.

I think we've had enough with useless presidents.

Executive orders can be vetoed later on. The president must explain each and every use of one to the congress. Which is why congress shut down for so long.

People wouldn't riot, they'd just bitch about Trump not having the balls to tell congress off. Just like they did with Obama, and Clinton, and at least one of the Bushes when they tried to accomplish that very same tax plan.

This isn't new, and it doesn't mean **** in regards to Trump's concern for the poor, which in the past he has repeatedly shown to not give two ***** about.

Trump is a lot like Romney but without the ability to filter his words.

Jeb was talking about it. Why does everyone ignore Jeb? I like Jeb. Moderation has always been a good thing in the past.

Jeb and Sanders always talk about what needs to be talked about, and their solutions don't sound like they were made by a fourteen year old. And there's hard evidence that some of Sanders solutions would work.

Eh. If 9/11 didn't happen Bush would have likely been known as an education president for his work with the NCLB, controversial but effective in the eyes of the education system.

Jeb also has repeatedly proven that he stands apart from his family and is trying to use his own merits to get the presidency. That's more admirable than I can say about either his father or brother. If he changed his name we would all be sucking his dick right about now.

Sanders and Trump probably won't get anything done due to their more radical beliefs. But Jeb is a man of compromise and flexibility. If only his orating skills were better... he'd be my favorite. As it stands right now though, even he doesn't add up to my admittedly high expectations.

The NCLB, though I hate it with every fiber of my being, did do a lot for improving teacher and school standards. It did nothing with higher education, though.

From what I've seen of him, Jeb's actually estranged from his family. He's apparently paving his career with his own money and not his father's.

The first Bush only messed up an already bad situation. In terms of presidency he'd get a C-. Not the best guy in the world, but not the worst president we've had recently cough carter

Ron Paul is a pipe dream. Let him go.

Who'd make a better Emperor of Mankind, Trump or Putin?

The two of them would be the perfect evil gay dreamteam

Putin's not exactly evil but he's certainly an anti-hero.

You like him, but he does a LOT of questionable **** . Him and Trump could very well be best friends and rulers of the world until they both kill each other.

I was about to gove you lots of answers, till I found out we have to judge everyone the same. Lol

Why not?

The other candidates might all also be liars, but at least they have the intelligence to lie when the truth makes them look like terrible people.

That means so much coming from an anon.

He asked for a valid argument, I gave one. Don't be mad because you think Trump's gonna be the messiah of white America. The man's a CEO, not a politician, and it's more than likely he won't accomplish **** other than ******* over Americans worse, between inaction and stupid ass actions.

If you aren't smart enough to know what the people want to hear then you certainly aren't smart enough to understand what the people want.

But hey, at least his toupe looks snazzy.

If he wins the election, then clearly the things he said are what the people want to hear.

He doesn't follow up on any of the policies that are written in detail on his platform. Anytime he's asked about something in detail about the issues, he throws up half-assed answers or equivocated repeats of canned statements One of the first examples that showed me Trump wasn't the real deal was his policy on Snowden; www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex7d-izDwzw .

There was a point in one of the debates where he was questioned about something he wrote on his own website regarding calling Marc Rubio 'Mark Zuckerberg's personal senator', and he denied it ever existed in the first place and simply trash talked the moderator for "not fact-checking". Meanwhile it turns out his website did have it written as it was questioned on, and the only reason Trump slid was sheerly through intimidation.
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/oct/28/donald-trump/donald-trump-didnt-realize-his-own-website-called-/

I remember I wanted to think Trump was the real deal when I saw some of his statements regarding a People Magazine interview back in '98 (the REAL interview, not the bogus fake that was spread throughout Facebook) where he sensibly critcized both parties for being too far off spectrum, and there needed to be a third intervening party to bring it all back together.
But as people have shown examples of in this thread and in what I posted, Trump's not the golden savior his supporters make him out to be. People need to stop trying to render politicians as messiahs because they have a few tangential policies that are good and actually look at everything around them.

He's a CEO, not a politician, this is a country, not a company.

He doesn't fit.

In this case, it just doesn't work.

It's funny now, he's a joke, "Ha ha, look everybody, Trump the Clown's honking his nose again!", he's a circus ride, but when it gets down to brass tacks, we need someone who'll look out for the people, not his own wallet, which is what Trump'll do, because he could make major bank by being corrupt in office. Who should go into office? I don't know, all of the candidates suck, Bernie Sanders made a good point here and there, but I doubt he'd stand up for himself, Ben Carson is making the same insane points as Trump, but he's black and whispering while doing so, Hillary Clinton is just stupid.

All I know is, I don't want to ever have to say the words "President Trump."

Partly? Sure, everyone has a personal agenda, but some of the past president's intentions and actions felt purely to help the people.

Maybe I'm just naive.

Reagan was an actor, not a politician; this is a country, not a movie.

He doesn't fit.

In this case, it just doesn't work.

You might have a point but Schwarzenegger killed California with his idiotic policies.

I live almost 3,000 miles away from California, I've got no clue what's going on there.

He was also a union leader and 33rd Governor of California.

Honestly, didn't know that about him being a governor, but shouldn't a union leader have the same skills as a businessman? Wait a minute, Trump's a businessman!

Read this. www.goiam.org/index.php/headquarters/departments/hpwo-partnerships/hpwo-information/6132-roles-and-responsibilities-of-union-leaders-in-hpwo-partnerships

A union leader is more like a state representative for laborers, than a businessman.

Ah, I see. Well then, who would you like to see as president? I kinda do want Sanders, but it seems like he'll bankrupt the country with social programs, and I kinda want Trump because he at least seems honest about what, and who, he his is about.

I like Jeb.

Mock me all you want but he does have some solid points.

People don't like that he's a Bush, but he's actually proven that he's not the same as his relatives.

People are getting tired of the American "Monarchies" of Clintons and Bushes. I don't think he, or Hillary will get the office.

I suppose, but Jeb Bush is proving himself on his own merit. If he changed his name we'd see him in a whole new light.

Sanders is, in my opinion mind you, the anti-trump. Just as bad, just as annoying, but on the reverse side.

And Trump is his own monarchy.

To be honest, man, I don't know.

All of these candidates suck, you're basically asking me, "Okay, which turd would you like thrown at your face?"

"all these candidates suck"
So... you like, are just lazy and don't want to bother researching the candidates?

The only one that I've researched that I liked was Carson.

How do you feel about Martin O'Malley?

Other than added focus on other things, he's similar to Carson.

What would you do if you ran for office, and got in?

Dude, I don't know, I'm not a politician, and my ideas are probably laughably naive, so if I were running, by some unseen fate, I hope I wouldn't win, because I'd probably do more harm than good because I've got 0 political knowledge.

We need an outsider more than anything, right now.

What we need is someone who knows their **** , not a meme as president.

Everything is a ******* meme, in case you haven't noticed.

Okay, I'll be clearer.

We don't need Donald trump as president, we need an actual politician who understands the problems of America and knows how to fix them.

None of them do. And if you say " Bernie Sanders" I will jump out of your monitor and smack you with a rolled-up Newsprint.

I didn't say "Bernie Sanders", and I'm not going to say, "Bernie Sanders", fact of the matter is, while he has a few good points, the man's spine is ******* gone, because a bunch of dindus hijacked his rally.

Good, because it's physically impossible for me to do what I said I was going to do. That, and I couldn't possibly afford a new monitor.

If I said Bernie Sanders had enough willpower to be president, **** , I'd beat myself with a newsprint.

But, since all the candidates are ****** , I don't even know who I'd prefer to be in office, not Trump or Carson because it's basically Orange Trump and the new Black Trump, whisperer edition, and Hillary Clinton is just...no.

And Jeb! doesn't seem like he'll do jack **** , so I dunno, man.

Things be ****** .

It's either Trump or Carson. Mostly has a lot to do with their backgrounds (Large-scale development and Neurosurgery, respectively). In their minds whatever they do has to work, or everyone involved suffers. So they make sure their plans can work.

That, and they're complete outsiders. Makes them a threat to the status quo. Washington needs a kick in the ass, that's for sure...

Jeb is a Bush. We can't have another Bush in office, as he'll likely to drag this country into another War on Whatever and sign in a few laws that erode our Constitutional freedoms just a tiny bit more.

It's their family tradition, after all...

Your first point makes sense, and yes, Washington needs a good ol' fashioned boot to the booty, but I want a President to earn his place by his merit as a president, not because he's an outsider.

You don't understand. Career politicians are broken fools, the world is nothing but a game to them, and they're making bolder and bolder proposals every month. Outsiders are more than necessary at this point.

Simple way to put it is this: ****** ****** .

Damn right it is. Hopefully they all die before they can drive this country into the ground. Old people are always bitterly possessive like that. These dinosaurs need to go...

I think the problem is that corruption has so thoroughly ********** our political system, that we're only getting shills who step up in place as the "hero to save America."(See: Donald J. Trump), when in reality, they're just furthering their own gain and ******** on the average people further. And until someone who'll actually have the nuts to stamp it out steps up, it's gonna get worse and worse by the year.

It's the system itself that really corrupts people. Lobbying. Market Research. There are some things that you just shouldn't build a business around or bring money into. Politics is one of those things.

And that's the problem, every career politician has a price tag in his Armani suit, ready to play mouthpiece for whatever corporate ******** who buys him, it's like the Muppets, except the Muppets don't affect the wellbeing of millions of Americans.

But it's always been like this, I can't sit here and say, "Oh, yeah, back in the days of Kennedy, things weren't like this.", because ****** been ****** for a good long while, now, that's why the corruption is so deep-seated.

Look at ******* Nixon, for God's sake, he's the biggest, clearest example of corruption.

Of course it wasn't like this Kennedy's day. Why do you think he was killed?

Mass Media's ******** is doing nothing but turning the light away from important issues.

The threat of ISIS is very real, don't get me wrong, but asking them nothing but dumb questions like, "What about ISIS? How bout ISIS? ISIS, am I right?", is just ******* dumb.

As much as I want to dispute you, you're right.

This is the well-being of a country.

I'd go with Carson, between the two.

I like his policies, get that cancer known as Obamacare out, and fix it, keep the Second Amendment in place, freedom of religion, the way he wants to fix the budget.

Yeah, Carson seems like the better of the two.

Now, turn on the GOP debates. They're asking candidates the stupidest questions I've ever heard. Nothing but ISIS-related **** . Fear-mongering CNN....

Either one works. They're outsiders, like I said.

Can't I enjoy a joke every now and again?

The ride never ends, so I might as well make the most of it.

No. You can't. This is serious business.

Maybe you're right.

But, man, Trump seems like a really bad idea, maybe Carson or Fiori--

Okay, not Carly Fiorina, but maybe Carson, at least he was hood enough to stab a dude, maybe he'll stab away America's problems.

Carson 2016, If you can't beat'em, stab'em.

That story was false, though.

It's Trump or Carson. Nothing else.

Kennedy would've done some good for this country, I feel, but his time as President was cut short out of the blue.

If there was any President that I would use black metal magic to bring back and put into office, it'd be Kennedy.

WebM not related.

He was killed so they could enslave us all. They've been trying for the past 50 years. Yeah, we need outsiders.

He doesn't actually support freedom of speech and wants to silence Internet discussion that he doesn't like: www.snopes.com/trump-wants-shut-internet/

He also doesn't want to help keep jobs in America, he only wants the illegals out because they're illegals (which isn't an invalid reason, but nonetheless) while Sanders at least opposes open borders immigration for this reason.

I'm sure the feelings police at msnbc and HuffPo have been making up ******** about him, but this does not mean there isn't valid criticism of him. I honestly don't see him as much different from Clinton.

I read the Newsmax one and it was only debunking false claims about Trump, which is fair and good, he obviously doesn't deserve libel. But when Trump actually does say something awful or hilarious, the conservative media puts it down the memory hole.

Basically, people want Trump to be something he simply isn't: an enemy of the establishment.

Asking, not mandating, that tech companies remove terrorist recruitment material is not censorship. Is it "censorship" to launch cyberattacks at enemy websites? I don't hear many people bitching that the US military would literally murder the people who are members of ISIS if give the opportunity. Are their lives less important than their speech?

I'm not sure whose lives you were talking about, so I assumed the terrorists'.

And how do you think terrorist recruitment works, some secret Hollywood voodoo ******** ? ISIS uses regular social media and even has a ******* magazine. They communicate the same way everyone else does. The only way to prevent terrorists from communicating online is to prevent everyone from doing so. Period. He is an imbecile that doesn't understand how things work because he has never needed to; it doesn't make him a bad person, but it does make him one unsuitable for office.

"Are their lives less important than their speech?"

Yes.

How is this any different from porn? Most social media websites prohibit the posting of pornography. Why can't they prohibit the posts from literal, self-identified ISIS members?

This isn't the US government doing the censorship. Hell, censorship may not even happen. His quote was along the lines of "We should talk to smart people in Silicon Valley and try to come up with a solution for preventing terrorist recruitment"

The first video in my OP covers this at about 16:30.

A private entity deciding their own terms of use is not the same thing as the government telling them what they can and can't do. His quote is exactly what I'm talking about, he and most other politicians think computers are magical. It implies he'll do either nothing or far too much.
"The first video in my OP covers this at about 16:30."
I respect your own views, but I can't listen to more than a minute of Molyneux without wanting to punch a hole in my screen.

no counter-argument though?
So then should or shouldn't we let the ISIS militant have free reign to promote their propaganda and recruit US citizens?

No, but this shouldn't be prevented by censoring citizens, which is literally impossible to achieve domestically. It should be prevented by hunting down and putting bullets in the propagandists.

instead of being bought by oligarchs he is himself an oligarch.

besides that he has no experience in politics other than buying politicians.

does that work?

YES IT DOES.

I think we both can agree that Trump is primarily fueled by ego. Do you think his ego would allow him to do a ****** job as president? I really don't think he is in it for personal gain, besides in the ego department.

Politicians are one of the most mistrusted, hated, and criticized groups of people on the planet. Are you saying you would rather have a worthless career politicians instead of a wildly successful businessman who has created thousands of jobs and managed an global corporation?

i think he's primarily fueled by power. he's got billions and international deals and good public opinion from the apprentice and all the being in the public eye.

that being said he's looking for more power and the only thing he doesnt have is political power. being president more than sets you up. sure the pay is negligable (250k/year) but having the power of the military, rights to veto bills, set a political agenda and complete it, to be able to write a budget regardless of whether or not it has to be approved by congress.

basically he's looking for political gains people like you and i couldnt imagine. the kind of set up and power you get from that is beyond dollars or polls or any of that

Protectionist trade tariffs will make consumer products really expensive; bad for the economy etc.

Is it really "protectionist" to match trade tariffs? i.e. China charges the US 10% on Intel CPUs so we charge them 10% on Chinese computer parts? From what I understand Trump wants to increase our tariffs to match those of our trading partners.

>re-militarizing Germany

I think he just won my vote tho

Remember though that it's not the Chinese who are going to be paying for the tariffs; the US consumers would be the ones who are impacted most in the end.

His plan to build the wall and make Mexico pay for it will double their deficit likely leading to even more problems with Mexico's strained government spending that they use to barely keep control of cartels (with our help).

This destabilization could cause even more illegal immigration from Mexico as people get the hell out of the sinking boat and go to America. So either we pay for it ourselves (which would be a big expenditure) or we invest even more in helping the Mexican government fight the war against the cartels after we get them to cut their budgets. This is not assisted by the fact that the most recent government budget has already cut law enforcement spending.

Bottom line, the Mexican government will have to cut so much funding it will pretty much be useless across the board as the systems they have in place aren't exactly golden to being with. The only way a government will willingly double a deficit is if it gets strong armed into it, which I doubt people will enjoy strong arming our neighbor into ruin over a wall. The wall it a terrible idea and will cause more problems than it solves.

I don't want anymore illegal immigration but looking at the finances of the wall meant to stop illegal immigration it will most likely increase it by a **** ton. No amount of his memes will allow me to overlook this blatantly terrible idea.

sources:

www.tradingeconomics.com/mexico/government-budget

this is in pesos just google "mexican government budget" for it in USD

www.cnbc.com/2015/10/09/this-is-what-trumps-border-wall-could-cost-us.html

15-25 billion, so it will either increase current Mexican deficit by about half or pretty much double it

www.businessinsider.com/mexico-2016-national-budget-security-cuts-2015-9

Mexico's law enforcement budget cut

If Mexicans want to escape, they can go to OTHER SPANISH-SPEAKING NATIONS.

We have to stop playing nice with countries that can't sort their **** out. We need to roll it all back and rebuild.

Dude we're close and we're stable, it's not that they want to **** us over it's that if we were to do this we would be the only near piece of dry land for the drowning nation. The could easily just use what little they have left to pay for the Cartels to sneak them across. The fallout from creating the wall would most likely lead to an increase in cartel power and subsequently illegal immigration. Our problem is our stability and economy, we may have our qualms but we are an amazing feat for other countries and they come here to get a piece of the american dream, if you want to blame something our advertising of freedom might be able to take a good part of it.

What they need to do is fix their own country.

I agree but they can't if they are forced to give us billions of dollars.

I guess either way, it fixes itself.

You make an interesting point but I disagree with your conclusion.

The National Journal( www.nationaljournal.com/s/70020/this-is-how-much-donald-trumps-immigration-plan-would-cost-america-if-mexico-doesnt-pick-up-tab ) has a much lower estimate for the cost of fencing the US border, coming in at $6.4 billion. But whether is it $6.4 billion or $25 billion is irrelevant because Mexico will pay for the wall, one way or another.

We have a yuuge trade imbalance with Mexico to the tune of $55(ish) billion dollars. If we place an additional tariff of 10% on Mexican goods we will recover the price of the wall within 5 years. I know that this doesn't factor in decreased trade due to the tariff, but I'm sure the final rate can be negotiated so that we get the money for the wall without completely devastating the Mexican economy.

Trump has signaled a noninterventionist (our at least non-"boots on the ground") policy towards the Middle East which will free our troops to man and patrol the wall.

Something needs to be done about illegal immigration and immigration in general or we will face demographic annihilation. sounds super racist and edgy, I know

www.globalsecurity.org/security/systems/mexico-wall.htm
An interesting read, and I would like to point out that a lot of pockets are going to get fat if we do build the wall because we're talking about billions. So on top of the money we have spent we will be spending an additional 6 billion at least.

I suspect people will start building tunnels like the cartels do and it's going to get worse. Why don't we reform the immigration laws to allow people to come to the US legally without having to wait years and years, or maybe we would get rid of the cartels by not snorting so much coke. Or we could aid mexico more instead of giving billions of dollars to israel. Or we could use those 6 billion to improve education on the US, since right now most high school students can't even do basic algebra.

Building a wall is just a stupid idea and basically a ban aid to a bigger problem. If we fix mexico's problem with the cartels, Mexico's standard of living will increase and illegals will stop coming.

And to finish up, I think forcing mexico to pay for a wall would be a gigantic dick move and would basically be a free pass for Putin to come rolling with money (he is already making deals with south america and is creeping north). And i don't think Mexico having mexico get real friendly with the Russians can be good at all.

Basically building a wall is just a stupid idea that common people understand, but in reality the issue and consequences are more complex. Obviously candidates like to bring up a wall because even a kid can come up with that one, but as soon as you tell americans about fixing immigration laws then they don't know what the hell those laws are.

No, NAFTA makes too much money for both American companies and Mexico for tariffs to be taken seriously, don't get me wrong NAFTA has its problems, it displaces Mexican farmers and can both cost and create jobs for Americans depending on how its handled. But the businesses that has been built between Canada, America, and Mexico using NAFTA have become essential in many parts of life due to their ability to keep prices down. I don't see Trump who, no matter how seriously you take him, is considered a joke to most corporations that don't share his interests being able to go against major lobbying like that. Plus it would require renegotiating NAFTA, and if that isn't a Pandora's box in itself you're telling me he want's to renegotiate it in our favor? Not likely.

Regardless 6.4 is still over a fifth of their deficit, still a humongous increase in spending and no matter how much you force Mexico they won't pay it because the budget cuts that would result from that is still enough to destroy what little balance there is in Mexico. And even if Trump is able to force them to take what he makes into the lesser of two evils, either maybe being destroyed by tariffs or by expenditure that doesn't go anywhere near befitting their own people, it would make America actually and unabashedly be considered the biggest pieces of **** in the international theater for forcing them to make that choice which will not assist relations with other countries. yeah maybe you don't care but imagine other countries starting to shy away from trading with the US after seeing us spin it around so forcefully and twist someone's arm for money using trade agreements, people would think twice because they wouldn't want that to happen to them whether or not we would actually do it and we could miss out on serious markets

Over 10% of Mexico's population lives within our borders, costing our government billions of dollars a year. How is that not being the biggest piece of **** in the international theater? Many of your positions seem to be arguing from the perspective that Mexico is a great neighbor and any sort of push back against their policy of allowing their citizens to trespass into the US is the ultimate dick move.

Mexico is taking advantage of the US. A little bit of hardball would not be uncalled for.

Regardless, do you notice how the only thing we are really arguing about is who is going to pay for the wall? Not if the wall should be built, how it would be built, or what effect it would have, just how to pay for it. Scott Adam of Dilbert fame has a great blog post on how Trump gets people to "think beyond the sale". I think that most people have severly underestimated Trump's capabilities. blog.dilbert.com/post/126589300371/clown-genius

I think you just went full retard and just showed your true colors. I thought you wanted to have a serious discussion, but you bring weak points. Just because there are mexicans who have established in the US doesn't mean that the US spoonfeeds them and basically sends them a check in the mail.

I will tell you that illegals do pay taxes and i will prove it to you. Most illegals pay taxes using an ITIN number given by the IRS. One of the first things an illegal does when he gets to the US is get an ITIN number

www.irs.gov/Individuals/Individual-Taxpayer-Identification-Number-ITIN
"An Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) is a tax processing number issued by the Internal Revenue Service. It is a nine-digit number that always begins with the number 9 and has a range of 70-88 in the fourth and fifth digit. Effective April 12, 2011, the range was extended to include 900-70-0000 through 999-88-9999, 900-90-0000 through 999-92-9999 and 900-94-0000 through 999-99-9999. IRS issues ITINs to individuals who are required to have a U.S. taxpayer identification number but who do not have, and are not eligible to obtain a Social Security Number (SSN) from the Social Security Administration (SSA).

ITINs are issued regardless of immigration status because both resident and nonresident aliens may have a U.S. filing or reporting requirement under the Internal Revenue Code."

Just in 2011 the IRS collected around 11. 2 billion dollars in taxes from illegals. Now I will tell you that many illegals own businesses which contribute to the economy etc etc. The whole "ILLEGALS DON'T PAY TAXES' is just a half truth. Obviously some don't pay taxes, but so do a lot of american citizens.

People make Trump as some sort of genius, but he is just a bored rich kid with a big ego while sweet talking the south with casual racism.

Underrated post.

Well Mexico doesn't let them, they choose to. And the sale is extremely important when we are considering building one of the biggest man made structures on the face of the earth. I do not understand why you wouldn't be concerned with how we are going to pay for that or whether or not it could literally destroy a country, I'm not saying that it is the best country in the world or that it's great that they have no control over their populace leaving to a country that isn't as **** but I'm not going to cap the country right next to us in the knee, you know why? Because that would cause a massive influx of legal and illegal immigration as people leave a financially ruined country and come to the US which is what we're trying to avoid. The coyotes are already a massive and complex organization, imagine how powerful they will become when a huge influx of immigrants want to leave the country due to the instability brought on by an increased deficit where the money went to another country. The whole plan is a recipe for disaster.

He's got a ****** hair style.

got a laugh out of this.

People posting entire essays on how much they hate Trump... and then there's this ****** guy. "his hairstyle sucks"

Hey, I couldn't give a damn about the elections thus far. The only candidate I only sorta like is Sanders, cus free school and I doubt he could do that anyways, so whatever. All the candidates can go right to hell, whether they're wrong or not.

Bruh I feel you. I don't even vote and personally think everything will still be the same amount of ****** no matter who gets elected. You just got me laughing because your argument is the simplest form of rejection. And laughing still from all the butthurt trump supporters because you insulted his hair-do. Shows you the integrity of these extremist trump supporting morons lmfao

So does Sanders

Hey man I'm already voting for Trump. Not because I think "he's gunna keep these turrurists out of 'merica!" But because I think he's smarter than anyone gives him credit for and can effectively manage the social politics of today. That and he won't try to remove the first Amendment like Cuck Sanders inevitably will.

"That and he won't try to remove the first Amendment like Cuck Sanders inevitably will."

Do you have any evidence of this, or are you just retarded?

We already know Sanders caves to, and sides with SJWs. That debacle at his rally in which he let two screeching banshees take over his speech. The latter is attested to by the fact that he believes in a wage gap. He sympathizes with SJWs. When they push for censorship, so will he.

Sander's voter-base is literally ******* Reddit. Have you SEEN the people who attend his speeches?

So, what, he doesn't handle things belligerently, whether or not he handles them properly? The day after the Seattle incident both the left and right media basically lynched the two women, and it later turned out that they weren't even BLM reps, they were two random cunts that were headhunted for their sheer aggressive attitudes. It was basically a ploy by the Clinton administration, same with that Deport Racism crap.

"Sanders = SJW" is no different from "Trump = fascist". It's slander, plain and simple. You're lying about him supporting censorship.

I'm not lying. About anything. I'm passing to people the conclusions I've drawn from seeing what he supports. But since you seem to want to accuse me of slander I'll give you something: you're a dumb bitch.

Then you really are stupid enough to believe what you say? It sounds like the rambling of someone who has no experience with the real world outside of your computer and thinks under age 25 = Tumblr user.

Have you seen some of the stuff Scott Adams (Dilbert) has been writing on Trump?

blog.dilbert.com/post/128474925371/how-to-spot-a-wizard

It's an interesting take on his campaign persona.

and oddly relevant to your username.