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#30 - mynameiswyatt (07/15/2013) [-]
i have no idea what all the stuff about zimmerman is
User avatar #44 to #30 - Deeticky (07/15/2013) [-]
The other guy is lying. Here's the real story.
>Neighborhood experiences string of robberies.

>George Zimmerman patrols as neighborhood watch to try and catch the criminal.

>Trayvon martin is walking home.

>George Zimmerman sees him as suspicious, most likely because Trayvon was high on pot at the time

>George Zimmerman calls 911 and follows Trayvon.
>Trayvon and Zimmerman have a confrontation. It is not clear who started it.

>A witness hears screaming and gunshots, reports that to police.
> The police arrive and find Travon martin dead of a single gunshot would to the chest.

>Zimmerman is beaten bllody and has grass stains on the back of his shirt. According to the responding officer, this along with witness testimony showed that Zimmerman was on his back being beaten by Trayvon.
>In the state of Florida, you may respond to an attacker with deadly force regardless of whether they are armed or not.

>The police release Zimmerman.
>the media takes up this story and uses doctored and biased pictures and a doctored copy of the 911 call in order in order to bill this as a "hate crime" so they can drum up ratings.
> no one was ever able to identify who was screaming on the tape. A forensic pathologist is someone who performs autopsies, not someone who listens to tapes. So the other guy obviously doesn't know what he is talking about.
>People protest and demand Zimmerman be given a trial.
>Zimmerman is given a trial and found not guilty.

#57 to #44 - anonymous (07/15/2013) [-]
Now I'm not a stoner and will probably never smoke weed, but is there evidence to prove he was high? or are you just being a little bit racist?
User avatar #59 to #57 - Deeticky (07/15/2013) [-]
I love how you think I may be racist before you even give me a chance to give evidence.

Trayvon had pot in his system on the night he died, according to the toxicology report.

Here's a source: www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trayvon-martin-marijuana-system-night-gunned-article-1.1080182
#60 to #59 - anonymous (07/15/2013) [-]
What do you mean, before I give you a chance? I just gave you a chance by asking you and not assuming. Thanks for the source anyway.
User avatar #71 to #60 - Deeticky (07/15/2013) [-]
Apologies if you weren't assuming. I felt like you were. Sometimes having only text on a website like this makes things sound different than they were intended to sound.
User avatar #51 to #44 - georgiohill (07/15/2013) [-]
"most likely because Trayvon was high on pot at the time" oh dear that sounds stupid and insignificant as a detail
User avatar #58 to #51 - Deeticky (07/15/2013) [-]
It is significant because it could've altered his behavior. (As the Medical examiner stated) and his erratic behavior may be why Zimmerman decided to pursue him.
User avatar #64 to #58 - georgiohill (07/15/2013) [-]
to be honest i think smoking pot would not cause violent behaviour, whereas Zimmerman's prescribed drugs had side effects such as increased paranoia and anxiety, which seems to be far more related to the crime
User avatar #70 to #64 - Deeticky (07/15/2013) [-]
That's your opinion, and you have a right to it, but pot has been shown to cause different behaviors in different individuals. It calms some people, it makes others more aggressive. The medical examiner stated that this could have been the case with Trayvon.
#54 to #51 - anonymous (07/15/2013) [-]
**** off stoner.
User avatar #56 to #54 - georgiohill (07/15/2013) [-]
not even a stoner it was just put stupidly
#32 to #30 - sparkieemae (07/15/2013) [-]
Unarmed 17 year old kid walking home from store with skittles talking to girlfriend on phone while committing crime of having excess melanin   
   
George Zimmerman, self appointed neighborhood watch captain paroling with a gun.   
Zimmerman calls 911 for back up   
   
Makes statement 'These assholes always get away'   
   
911 tells Zimmerman not to initiate confrontation.   
   
Ignores and goes on to stalk and initiate confrontation and shoots the kid to death.   
   
Zimmerman claims 'Stand your Ground' law as defense, saying that this unarmed 10 stone 17 year old made this 16 stone 30 year old man with a gun feel threatened which authorized him to use deadly force.   
   
A recording of the incident you can hear a man screaming for help, Zimmerman claimed it was him, but after undergoing a voice analysis by multiple forensic pathologists it was determined that he's actually a lying piece of 						****					 but what a shock looking at the rest of the details of the case.
Unarmed 17 year old kid walking home from store with skittles talking to girlfriend on phone while committing crime of having excess melanin

George Zimmerman, self appointed neighborhood watch captain paroling with a gun.
Zimmerman calls 911 for back up

Makes statement 'These assholes always get away'

911 tells Zimmerman not to initiate confrontation.

Ignores and goes on to stalk and initiate confrontation and shoots the kid to death.

Zimmerman claims 'Stand your Ground' law as defense, saying that this unarmed 10 stone 17 year old made this 16 stone 30 year old man with a gun feel threatened which authorized him to use deadly force.

A recording of the incident you can hear a man screaming for help, Zimmerman claimed it was him, but after undergoing a voice analysis by multiple forensic pathologists it was determined that he's actually a lying piece of **** but what a shock looking at the rest of the details of the case.
User avatar #50 to #32 - SgtObvious (07/15/2013) [-]
You left out the parts that Zimmerman was hurt and bloody, had grass stains on his shirt, trayvon was considered a "bad" kid (he fought a lot and was suspended from school at the time of his death), Trayvon was noticeably taller and a lot more athletic than Zimmerman, a fighting expert who had seen them both fight said Zimmerman would be absolutely no match for Trayvon, a forensics expert said that the angle and markings of the shot proved that Trayvon was leaning over Zimmerman, and a neighbor said that they saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman hitting him and bashing his head into the curb. Stop giving your biased and incomplete ******* story and let him form a non-ignorant opinon.
#65 to #50 - sparkieemae (07/15/2013) [-]
Go **** yourself cunt. If a goddamned adult was stalking me and following the **** out of me I would attack back if they attacked me first and that is not something that should be punished by death. Martin's ******* right to be alive did not surpass the right of Zimmerman's right to be a ******* wanna be cop. Martin wouldn't have done **** to the ****** if he had left him the **** alone like he was ******* told by the authorities to do.
User avatar #66 to #65 - SgtObvious (07/15/2013) [-]
1. All I said was that you left out information, giving a very biased view of the story to the person who didn't know about it which isn't fair to him
2. He could have called the cops, he could have ran away, he could have calmly told him that he was just going home, etc. But no, he chose to attack him. Zimmerman reacted to what he felt was a very hostile situation by shooting him. He 100% had the right to do it legally and morally.

Put yourself in Zimmerman's situation. If some hoodrat punk (don't say he's not because he'd gotten into a lot of fights and was suspended from school at the time of his death) that's taller, stronger, more athletic, and a much better fighter is on top of you beating you up and you had a gun, would you just let him keep going or would you take measures to stop it?
#68 to #66 - sparkieemae (07/15/2013) [-]
If I saw some 'asshole' who's 'looks like he's on drugs or something' I wouldn't disobey 911 and go confront them with a gun.

Was this punk hoodrat kid even up to anything? With his ******* tea and slittles was he posing a bodily threat to the murderous ******** ? Did Zimmerman magically know that once the kid had committed the crime of wearing gold teeth? Maybe had smoked pot god for **** bid. And had, (holy **** ) fought with other kids at his school? Nope. He was a ******** LOOKING FOR TROUBLE AND FOUND IT.

However he found it in the form of an innocent person who didn't deserve bodily harm inflicted on them. Martin he wasn't up to **** you stupid **** that kid was 17 do you have any idea how much it sucks to have a 17 year old die? Goddamn it when I was 17 I was so excited for my ******* senior year and to turn 18 and I did and it was ******* awesome. My best friend wasn't murdered like this guy but she didn't make it to 18 and it sucked a year and a half later it still sucks when I learn something cool or new or interesting I still sometimes pick up my phone, excited to text her and my heart still feels like it gets ripped out every time. Her brothers all have to grow up knowing they had a sister. But they don't now. Her children are never going to be born. She's not going to walk down the isle with that boy she was in love with. She's not going to walk across a stage receive a diploma for the 11 years of school she only had the chance to finish. She's never going to work anywhere but Dairy Queen and that's the legacy she gets. Someone who's not here.
User avatar #69 to #68 - SgtObvious (07/15/2013) [-]
Ok, relax with the logical fallacies. Stop trying to make me feel bad by writing a long flowery monologue about how your friend died totally unrelated to the topic.

Yeah, it's sucks Trayvon died for a stupid reason. Yeah, Zimmerman shouldn't have been following him. Zimmerman probably did profile him, but all that amounted to was him following Trayvon to make sure he didn't do anything. Trayvon then confronted him and committed a violent crime that would've landed him in maximum security prison had he not been killed. Zimmerman did something sketchy and frowned upon but not illegal, while Trayvon blatently broke the law out of anger in a terrible way. Trayvon had no reason to defend himself in that way against Zimmerman because there were no physical actions taken by Zimmerman. Trayvon got mad, and instead of dealing with the situation like a sane and normal person, he attacked Zimmerman like a maniac. Zimmerman had every right to take action against a violent person who was seriously hurting him, per Florida law. The fact that Trayvon was 17 and Zimmerman was an adult literally means nothing. If the situation were flipped and Trayvon killed Zimmerman, there wouldn't have been a trial and the media wouldn't have picked up the story. But because Trayvon was a black minor and Zimmerman was a white-looking adult with a white name, they did. Once again, if you notice I didn't try to personally insult or anything, I stayed on topic with the case. Notice how I also didn't bring in a random, unrelated story that holds no ground in this discussion and that has no other purpose than to try to make people feel bad. Since you don't care about the actual facts of the case or the background behind it, I'm done with this argument.
User avatar #67 to #66 - SgtObvious (07/15/2013) [-]
Btw notice how I stayed civil and didn't insult you in my reply.
#46 to #32 - anonymous (07/15/2013) [-]
well this is a very one sided misrepresentation of what most of the evidence presented in court suggested...
User avatar #35 to #32 - morbidbreath (07/15/2013) [-]
damn, you should speak up.
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