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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
User avatar #71 - Sinless
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"7 Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. 8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." - 1 John 4

I think they need to read their book a little more
User avatar #98 to #71 - ninjamyles **User deleted account**
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Leviticus 18:22
"'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."
i think we have a slight problem here
User avatar #126 to #98 - Sinless
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The original verse uses the word "abomination."

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination." - Leviticus 18:22 (KJV)

In the English language abomination is used to describe something that is evil, hateful, loathsome, wicked, vile etc. But in the Bible it is translated from the Hebrew word "shiqquwts" and is, in definition, closer to the word taboo than it is to abomination. Taboo is used to describe something that is forbidden, prohibited, disallowed, and does not offer the same moral grievances that the word abomination does.

In short. While the Bible disallows homosexuality (in the Old Testament at least, where there are so few accounts compared to the New), it does not in any way condone the hatred that people say it does.

Huh, guess I did learn **** in college. Who knew.
#221 to #126 - anon id: 7edac092
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Except for the part where it tells people to put gays to death 2 chapters later (Lev 20: 13). Admittedly, Christians aren't supposed to kill sinners now, but the Bible puts homosexuality on par with incest and bestiality; Jesus didn't speak much about any of those, but his apostles and the Old Testament clearly condemned them.
User avatar #243 to #221 - Sinless
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You also realize that putting people to death was the go-to punishment for most crime back then right? They were only starting to move away from the "do something wrong, you die" form of justice into the "eye for an eye" form of justice.

Most sexual crimes were punished by death. By your logic homosexuality was also on par with falsely claiming you were a virgin, sleeping with a free woman, having sex with a Canaanite, cursing your parents, adultery.

And though Jesus didn't speak directly about those crimes, but he clearly didn't condone severe punishment of sin. Also, most of his apostles in their final stages of belief didn't condemn anyone.
#248 to #243 - anon id: 7edac092
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Well, we should at least discourage those, with the obvious exception of the Canaanite part. But homosexuality, incest, and bestiality were all lumped together in the same chapter.
User avatar #116 to #98 - autumnfire
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User avatar #115 to #98 - arstya
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Is Leviticus old testament? And is John new?

I don't know. I haven't read much else besides that quote from Leviticus.