England Invented America

We have BEAR ARMS! Jeeze don't you know the bill of rights.

Everything in the damn country in made in china. My brother works at a international shipping warehouse and one day he got a box of knifes that were issued for the marines one fell out so he took it, the damn thing was made in china.

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>Stephen hawking has no arms
>Invented science

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if the USA isn't called America for short, than we might as well call China "the people's republic of" and spain "The Kingdom of",

The United States is a prepositional phrase. You want to bitch about how it's wrong, go back 300 years and do it to the founding fathers.

That logic is backwards.

United States of America
People's Republic of China

Saying America == Saying China
Saying United States Of == Saying People's Republic Of

We say either USA, United States, or America. They usually just say China.

... that is exactly what I am saying...

Oh you said "IF usa isn't called america"

I thoght you just said "The USA isn't called America"

you're correct. and i don't know why people thumbed you down. no one invented america but the colonists

B-But the colonists were English

English people that no longer wanted to be English.

But to not be English they had to "invent" America.

*sillydance*

They didn't even invent it, they founded it, you can't just make a several million year old continent.

America is a country.

Unless you're the kind of person that thinks "America" isn't an acceptable name for the USA in which case fuck off, it's called colloquial.

America... refers to the continents of North, Central and South America... all of which can be called America. The United States OF America was founded by the colonists, not invented, and the Americas were founded by the 17th century explorers.

www.google.ca/search?q=America&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a [LINK]

dem top two results (are equally reasonable)

I will concede that it is the official definition, but we all know what we're talking about and the context of America is clear in this thread.

I mean it is 4chan... so I suppose it should be an acceptable mistake.

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The American Navy was invented by a Scottish immigrant.

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I GET THIS. THANK YOU SCHOOL.

He said something you use on a daily basis

Paper. Gunpowder. Horse saddles. Agriculture.

Television, electricity

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I find that a lot of people mean a full democracy when they say America invented it. Athens did not allow women or foreigners the right to participete. Although I think Finland was the first country to allow women to vote in the democracy....

If memory serves me correct, the first country to have women's suffrage was New Zealand in the late 1800's.

Ah, it's been a while since we've learned about that. Thank you. I think Finland was 1915 or somewhere around there.

There's no such thing as "free" healthcare, unless doctors and nurses work for no pay, materials and tools are provided to the hospitals free of charge, and pharmaceutical companies provide drugs at no cost. If it's free for you, someone else is paying for it for you against their will.

it's subsidized by the government. Comes out of the same pool of money that builds roads, etc

ROADS ARE NOT FREE EITHER. None of that is "free". "Free" is when I give you a product or a service and get no compensation for it. When I give you a service and then force someone else to pay for it, it is not "free".

No, it's not free, it's payed for by my taxes. Taxes which amount to a considerable deal less than the health care would cost if I had to shoulder it myself, or the insurance. I say "free" because I don't pay a dime when I go to the doctor's office.

Yeah, because other people make up the difference. Government subsidies don't just make healthcare costs vanish magically. You're getting the service on someone else's dime. It's only as "free" as the flat screen TV I stole from my neighbors was free.

That money comes from somewhere, and that somewhere is people. There's nothing "free" about it, and it's childish to think otherwise.

of course it does. The taxes are affordable though. We could have an economy where the healthy have a higher standard of living and the unhealthy lose their homes etc, or we could have an economy where everyone has a slightly lower, but affordable standard of living.

FYI, when your health care system isn't for-profit, you only really pay for the utilities needed to perform the operation. How much does an ultrasound cost in America? I just looked that shit up, and it's $100 - $1000 depending on what type you get. How much does it cost here? $150 (which ISN'T subsidized btw).

I'm not interested in a debate about your healthcare versus mine. My point is that it's not FREE, which you JUST confirmed by pricing an ultrasound as something other than $0.

yes, it's not free by the literal definition of the word, being "without cost", but by the metaphorical sense as in "It doesn't bankrupt me" or "being healthy and without sickness is within my financial grasp" it may as well be free by comparison.

That's an incredibly self-centered view of the word "free" then, and inventing "free healthcare" under that definition is just another way of saying inventing a way to force others to pay for your shit, which is hardly an invention worth bragging about.

Forcing? Fuck no, bro. Just because you don't live in a society where people reach out and help eachother, where your neighbour's well-being and happiness MEAN something doesn't mean you should assume the rest of the world is as selfish as you.

Taxation is taking by force. If you didn't need force it would be done voluntarily, not through taxing. Thinking otherwise is just naive. And between me, who wants to keep what I earn and live my own life, and you, who is the one having other people pay for your healthcare, I'm the selfish one? Lol.

I think the people in my country understand the connection between the taxes they pay and the services they receive, like untolled highways that are well maintained. Streetlights that are repaired when they break, roads that are salted and plowed in the snow, and many other things that make our lives better. I pay my government to take care of me and the country I live in, and I see no problem with that, if it's the cost of living here, so be it. If I didn't want to pay the taxes, I could move to africa or somewhere where no govenment could tax me. But then I wouldn't have all the fine things I've gotten used to here.

when philio fansworth invented the tv he said "yeah but there is never anything good on "

False Benz in germany invented a car before that and it was very much a car what Ford really invented was the assembly belt. get your facts straight and stay in school.

actually italy

*That is what this joke here is implying.

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Just pretend what I said was captioned on the le joke face picture.

Okay, I mean I know it's from Italy.

Hurray for National Socialism!

Airplane... The Wright Brothers.

You use hot air balloons, submarines, and dildos on a daily basis?

So....what you're saying is that if England hadn't been dick-nuggets, then no one would have wanted to revolt or break away and go off and create their own country...meaning that if it hadn't been for England, America wouldn't exist? Got it. Thanks.

technically...

right, just like technically england invented america when really america is a conglomerate of many different races and ethnicities formed throughout history. I would hardly say that England invented America. A better way to put something like that would be Isreal was "invented" by the Zionist States in Europe along with some participants in the UN when they literally took the land from Yemen to make Israel a country. The US was formed throughout history, not spontaneously invented like that.

dude its /b/, "America" technically originated from English colonists.