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I' m working a partytime job right now for extra
gun money (and also to lose weight because I' m
a fat **** ) and I work with a bunch of
uneducated ******* .
They all love Trump.
she got balls
mat ***** go hard as ****
she gun kill dem isis ******
wwho fuk want an old white bitch as
president?
witch couldn' t control her husband, how she gun
control country?
And one black chick on Jeb;
mmy clit is bigger than his dick
it if it if
it it it it
it if it if
it 80881 if
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#1 - funpunk (01/07/2016) [-]
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User avatar #3 - advice ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
I've experienced this myself, out of all the pastey white people getting headlines right now, they like trump's flair much more than hillary's ******** . Trump knows style, and they love style.
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#61 to #3 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
adviceeeeee
accept tarabostes proposal already and get married
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#72 to #3 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
"Trump knows style"

Wat

The guy with the world's most ridiculous combover? Style?
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#78 to #72 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
ridiculous? no, trump is the master of the comb over.

and what is he supposed to do anyway, go bald?
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User avatar #97 to #78 - waacson (01/07/2016) [-]
Implants.
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#128 to #97 - ledneustadt (01/07/2016) [-]
We all remember how that turned out
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#207 to #78 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
Yes. Once you get to that point you go full bald.
Anything else is just inability to face reality.
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#155 to #78 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
that picture is photoshopped if anyone cares
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User avatar #183 to #72 - advice ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
style is more than a combover, it's your clothes and how you present yourself/yell at people about how stylish you are.
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User avatar #17 to #3 - platinumaltaria ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Also Hillary will say and do anything as long as people vote for her...
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User avatar #42 to #17 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Would she go transgender? ;)
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User avatar #59 to #42 - asotil (01/07/2016) [-]
Honestly I wouldn't doubt it. Except it would be in the Bruce Jenner way of "I have no intention of getting surgery of any kind or taking any transitional medication, I'm just going to become a crossdresser and hope you're all dumb enough not to notice"
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User avatar #41 to #3 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
And I love you
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User avatar #171 to #41 - advice ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
i love you too citizen
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User avatar #172 to #171 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm a sovereign citizen
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User avatar #210 to #172 - drtrousersnake (01/07/2016) [-]
So if you are a sovereign citizen of the internet can you go on any site and ******** porn and not get banned?
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User avatar #211 to #210 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
I-I should , but A.M.A.B.
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User avatar #141 to #3 - Ajracer (01/07/2016) [-]
Despite you and this anon's anecdotal evidence, this is literally the opposite of true. In a gallup pole a few months back, Hillary had a 68% net favorability rating percentage who say they approve of a candidate minus percentage who say they disapprove among black voters, which is miles ahead of any other candidate in the field (Sanders was next with 23%). Trump came in dead last with -48%.

Source: www.gallup.com/poll/184547/clinton-favorability-strong-among-black-americans.aspx?utm_source=Politics&utm_medium=newsfeed&utm_campaign=tiles
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User avatar #167 to #141 - advice ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
>few months back
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User avatar #204 to #167 - Ajracer (01/07/2016) [-]
Yes a few months back, do you really think black people have collectively pulled a complete 180 and begun to support Trump since August? While his national favorability may have fluctuated a bit, the poll showed a spread of over 100 between Clinton and Trump. She has Obama-like numbers. It's inconceivable that this has meaningfully changed in a matter of months, seeing as there hasn't been any sort of major scandal.
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User avatar #205 to #204 - advice ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
there have been a few debates, more of her Email issues have been discovered, and I've seen a large number of my democrat friends (some black) get pissed at her and the rest of the party for practically covering up sanders with little coverage, something trump has a lot of.
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#212 to #205 - Ajracer (01/07/2016) [-]
More anecdotal evidence. This is Trump's overall national favorability over time I know FJ hates HuffPost, but this is an aggregate of 80 polls by 17 different pollsters, not their own data . Not only has it not changed drastically, but you can see that even at it's lowest point way back in May, Trump's overall favorability was still higher than his favorability with black voters in the gallup poll. To reiterate my original comment: well respected national polling data shows that black people not only dislike Trump, but they REALLY dislike Trump - in fact, proportionally more so than the rest of the rest of America (which also REALLY dislikes Trump). I'd be happy to post some Clinton polls as well if you're interested - her numbers actually began to improve when the debates started.
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#60 - asotil (01/07/2016) [-]
GIF
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#91 - irishjohnny (01/07/2016) [-]
"My clit is bigger than his dick."
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#35 - DrollHumor (01/07/2016) [-]
Voting for a candidate because he's edgy.


It's coming.
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#149 to #35 - skebaba ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
That's democracy in a nutshell.
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#101 to #35 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
>leadership is edgy

Trump is the only natural leader out of all republican and democrat candidates.
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#218 to #35 - infinitereaper (01/07/2016) [-]
It sure is,

you're a shining example, in fact.
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#45 to #35 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Inside your ass
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#150 to #35 - yourinvisiblegf (01/07/2016) [-]
Voting for a candidate because she's a woman.

let me use a pic to subtly call names on my opponent
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User avatar #39 to #35 - bluerangermartin (01/07/2016) [-]
Not edgy, more just says the **** everyone's thinking but doesn't have the guts to say
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#74 to #39 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
> Says a lot of stupid racist and bigoted **** .

> Stupid racists and bigots: "He's saying what everyone else is afraid to say! YAAAYYYY!!!"
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#80 to #74 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
>says something not racist
>liberal media twists it into being racist as per usual

He even said directly after the rapist thing that obviously some are good people. But you don't see that part on any left leaning site because that would completely invalidate their "NOT ALL MEXICANS" ************ .
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#196 to #80 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
"Americans are gun totin' school killing maniacs!"
"Some of them are good though."
Yeah, sounds real positive when you put it like that.
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#161 to #80 - mormagil (01/07/2016) [-]
GIF
How much tweaking does it take to make "I will certainly implement a Muslim database" racist?
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#168 to #161 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
yeah, we should make a database of their victims instead.
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User avatar #123 to #80 - zacoren (01/07/2016) [-]
Some of them are good, implies that few arethats pretty biggoted to say that most of an entire country are rapist drug lords.
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User avatar #84 to #74 - bluerangermartin (01/07/2016) [-]
Do you always use so many buzzwords?
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User avatar #154 to #74 - durkadurka (01/07/2016) [-]
>muslims are a race
>mexicans are a race

Congrats, you're the racist.
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User avatar #66 to #39 - gigaidan (01/07/2016) [-]
That doesn't make him a good leader.... or a good president, for that matter...
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#81 to #66 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
And Clinton would? Can't wait for 67 "Don't worry about those things I deleted" addresses throughout those long four years.
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User avatar #87 to #81 - gigaidan (01/07/2016) [-]
Let me tell you something. "I don't approve Trump" =/= "Go Hilary".... or any of the others. One of the most important things in democracy that we should NEVER forget, is that no candidate is perfect, there are no sacred cows, and all of them can and SHOULD be criticized for all of their faults. Every. Single. One. Of. Them. Hilary being a cunt doesn't make Trump a good candidate. Trump being a piece of **** doesn't make Bernie a good option. Me saying that I don't like the idea of Trump president doesn't make me your or anyone's enemy.

A politician should have a real plan. Something that really shows that he/she has something behind his/her claim. With a team of really prepared people with realistic goals. A person that is able to say what must be said without being offensive. A person that knows what is wrong, and has a clear idea of what it must be done to solve it. After you filter Trump's white noise, screams, and offenses, does he sound like that kind of person? No. Does that mean that Hilary, Bernie or Bush are? Neither. What shall be done about it. That's the real question here.

I am not your enemy. But I am not going to support a person just because "the others are worst". To put it simple: I ain't voting for Kim Jong Un, just because the other candidates are Hitler, Stalin, and Mao Tse Tung.

Peace.
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User avatar #221 to #87 - thejusticar (01/07/2016) [-]
>Not voting for gloryus leader Kim Jong Un anyways.
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User avatar #160 to #39 - enlightednatzie (01/07/2016) [-]
Im not a cuck (because that requires a significant other who has someone ramming her while i masturbate and watch by the bedside) but saying things like that all mexicans are drug addicts and weed smokers (i am not so good at american politics so i might be wrong) is bad mmkay. He could just be factual and say that america needs to tighten the border control to stop the illegal immigration and not going all out say just dumb things. Sure, most people dont have the guts to say because quite frankly, its kinda retarded.

He just seem to be very un-profesional when he says things like that.
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User avatar #169 to #160 - bluerangermartin (01/07/2016) [-]
when did he say that?
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#57 to #35 - rmoran (01/07/2016) [-]
Trump / Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho '16
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User avatar #5 - tittylovin (01/07/2016) [-]
******* hell, someone needs to call the cia, that roasting is an act of terrorism.
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#146 to #38 - bakagaijin (01/07/2016) [-]
Wait.... I thought we loved bernie sanders?
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User avatar #200 to #146 - gggeee ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
FJ isn't one person.
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#148 to #146 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
Bernie is pathetic and submissive, aka the opposite of what this country needs right now.
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User avatar #158 to #148 - enlightednatzie (01/07/2016) [-]
Usa need Putin or Kim Jong Un onviusly.
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User avatar #217 to #146 - thejusticar (01/07/2016) [-]
We are pretty 50/50 on it. half hate half love
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#214 to #38 - mutespitta (01/07/2016) [-]
I don't support Sanders, but this is the kind of garbage my uncle would repost to Facebook
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#10 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
God help you people if you get Donald OR hillary..Hell, or Jeb.
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User avatar #220 to #10 - infinitereaper (01/07/2016) [-]
>literally anybody
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User avatar #222 to #220 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Cept bernie...Bernies probably the most healthy thing for the U.S
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User avatar #223 to #222 - infinitereaper (01/07/2016) [-]
No, Ron Paul was literally the most healthy and hopeful thing for America
But the suppression campaign and general ignorance led to ******* Obama
two terms of ******* nothing, samey same, minus one or two policies, cost more than benefit

This country is so ******* lost.
Trump is at least a Wild card.

That's why the liberal media is so afraid of him.
Because a president that might actually change anything is a threat.

They could stop Ron, but Trump is a different story.
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User avatar #226 to #223 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Yeah he could change things

I mean the water may hurt to drink, and maybe there might be a faint smell of radiation in the air.

But its a change? I mean **** the education system, **** taxes to help the average man. As long as we got a scary billionaire making NO relations with any other country. I honestly havn't heard anything on Ron Paul, But nearly anything Bernie has said its agreeable, Taxing the 1%, a Better, and cheaper Education system, Cutting funds for things the U.S no longer needs.

Sure- he can't implement these changes, but at least he is focused on it?
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#232 to #226 - infinitereaper (01/07/2016) [-]
Bernie says **** that's agreeable but it's literally not economically sound or feasible
Even my little brother understands this, and he doesn't understand ****
Bernie has no clue about economics and all his empty promises will cost this country money

his heart is in the right place but the **** he talks about is stupid

Trump at least knows money, building a wall for example,

Actual benefits:
Provide jobs
economic stimulus
lower influx of cheap labor from illegals, helping the economy
lower crime rates due to less illegals
etc.

Bernie sanders is the classic example of cost benifit disaster.
He wants to give people free **** but has no way to pay for it.
money has to come from somewhere, usually means higher taxes, more deficiet, etc.

Social Welfare ruined this country.
Instead of social security and medicaid we should have free education and free healthcare, under the capitlistic, **** ... well its an artificial monopoly controlled by the government to reduce costs to the people of your country.

But noooooooooooooooooo
lets keep unsustainable programs and grossly overpriced **** services
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User avatar #240 to #232 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
>Literally not economically sound or feasible
You mean like what every other country is doing? Proposing a tax on the rich, billion dollar people who: Do not make any jobs n such for the average person, and get all these benefits to come out with as much money as possible? taxing them so that the U.S Can afford some form of education that doesn't bankrupt the average student?

The **** he talks is True though, Just because you don't understand what he is talking about, doesn't mean its stupid, Just listen to his plans and think about it, All people whine about is about how they will be taxed for his plans, When no one is even close to being taxed in his plan unless you're bloody rich.
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User avatar #245 to #240 - infinitereaper (01/07/2016) [-]
Don't be so naive, I won't argue that this country doesn't need solutions, but his are subpar at best. You're ****** m8. we're ******

no matter who wins at this point
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User avatar #246 to #245 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (01/08/2016) [-]
His solutions atm are the best options for the U.S at this moment though..I don't understand why you won't let him have a chance?
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#247 to #246 - infinitereaper (01/08/2016) [-]
Because people said the same thing, for the same reasons, about Obama.
Maybe you'll learn eventually.
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#248 to #247 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (01/08/2016) [-]
You mean how he fixed an economy the last president Practically ruined?..

Are you well?
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User avatar #18 to #10 - platinumaltaria ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Bern is love
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User avatar #50 to #10 - frozo (01/07/2016) [-]
Or Bernie.

Jesus, I never thought I'd say this but I would rather have Hillary than Bernie. At least she won't **** up the economy.

All the politicians complained about Pfizer leaving the country to set up their headquarters in Ireland for a fraction of the taxes (US has the highest corporation tax rate at something like 35%), calling it despicable and the like. Bernie still claims that Wall Street will foot the bill for whatever he is promising instead of just moving HQ even though multiple companies have in the past.

Oh, and he actually believes in the BLM movement. He actively shares pictures on his FB page about how "black men are incarcerated 6 times as much as white men". But I wonder, why? Maybe it's because, I don't know, commit more crime?

He imitates Europe without understanding that Europe doesn't have as high of a population or as high of a population on welfare. They also don't really have a minority that commits an obscene amount of crime. I've read stats somewhere that if you cut out black crimes the crime rate in the US would fall to Belgium tier or the like.

Or rather, they didn't. That's beginning to change if you follow the news about the "refugee" crisis.
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User avatar #56 to #50 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
As i said below, Bernie actually knows what he's talking about, He is trying to fix the country, not "praise jesus" "Feminism" "Bush Trilogy" "Your fired."
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User avatar #53 to #50 - bigstick (01/07/2016) [-]
bernie has approximately 5% of winning, his entire following is libbie teens on the internet. rreally no one but people with legitimate disorders follow him, look up pictures of berns gatherings, or dont if you dont want to cringe.
Then again same could be said for trumps followers, hes the other extreme but trump is an actual ******* buisnessman who knows how to run an economy, and right now thats legitimately the most needed trait in todays politics.
And before you go on about "muh million dollar loan"
He turned one million dollars into 9 billion, and is funding his own campaign for president
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User avatar #73 to #53 - gigaidan (01/07/2016) [-]
Check Trump's personal history. He has filled for bankruptcy several times, he has ruined several companies, in several occasions the clients refused to buy unless Trump stopped being the CEO. He has defaulted millions of dollars in loans from several banks. He has entered several business using his name alone as insurance, and then left, leaving projects and investors almost ruined, but every time they tried to get something back, Trump threatened with suing them. They backed away because it was cheaper to take the losses than getting involved in all that **** .
See:
Trump vs Deutsche Bank
Trumps Taj Mahaj Casino (Bankrupt)
Trump's Plaza Hotel (Bankrupt)
Trump Entertainment Resorts (filled Ch. 11)
Trump International Tower (defaulted 40 million loan)
Trump Eastern Air Lines (defaulted 380 million loan)
Trump Ocean Resort Baja (stole 32 million from investors)
etc etc etc....

Trump is nothing but a toupee with a big mouth, a bully, and a liar. Maybe he can weasel his way in the money World, but so does a con artist, and none of them should get to the presidential chair. Just listen to his "plans" for ***** sake. "He says what it needs to be said" So?, I'm only 27 years old, but I understand that there is a HUGE difference between SAYING what must be said, and DOING what must be done. Political sensitivity aside, does it sound like he really has a plan to "make America great again"? really? filter the insults, the offenses, and all the white noise. What is left?

Oh, and if he is planning to run USA economy as he runs his... "business" *snort*, then I hope you have some savings under your bed.
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#124 to #73 - ascartes (01/07/2016) [-]
You are literally proving the point that Trump has already made.

He himself has said that he used the legal system of defaulting and declaring bankruptcy to save himself money, rather than paying it himself.

Part of his platform is that the system is horrible and flawed, and he wants to fix it.

Basically, all you say is that without racism and insults, he is nothing, but IMO if you only see racism then you have become part of the problem and are unable to actually see the reasoning behind some of his plans. Getting offended that easily doesn't lend to credibility.

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User avatar #253 to #124 - gigaidan (01/08/2016) [-]
I am not getting offended by Trump claims. What I'm saying is that he has nothing behind them. Check again every question they ask him about what is he planning to do, and really analyse his answers. He has absolutely no clue how to fix current problems, and the few ideas he gives are down right ridiculous. He may say many things on point, yes I won't deny that. But, has he really given any idea of HOW is he going to fix them? Real, concrete, serious, REALISTIC ideas?. "The American dream is dying, I tell ya", "Ok, fair enough. What ya gonna do 'bout it?", "I mean is not dead not yet, but almost. We can fix it, ok? I promise. Because we can do it. Ok. The American Dream, what a dream...." I'm not joking with this one... he actually said something like that.... and something about a red hat....

What is it worth that he can say what is wrong, when he has absolutely no idea how to fix it? and sorry for this, I am really not offended by Trump's words, but he saying " **** is wrong and Imma fix it, promise", just really doesn't do it for me.

P.S. And with this I'm not saying that Bernie, Clinton or Bush are better options, just in case you wanted to ask me if any of them would be any better.
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#254 to #253 - ascartes (01/08/2016) [-]
Well, the easiest example is the immigration issues.

Problem:
Islamic Terrorists are coming into the problem

Solution:
Cut off immigration from Islamic countries until we find a way to ensure that they aren't terrorists.
Build a wall on our Southern border to protect America. Just yesterday someone was arrested down in Texas for supporting ISIS.

Not to mention illegal immigration as an economic issue, the security is more important to me.

Though your issue about "The American Dream"
A: It is an ideal and in order to stay that way, it can't be something concrete that we give everyone a small loan of a million dollars to fix. But getting things rolling in the right no pun intended direction would be a start to fixing it, as more people would have opportunities to succeed, and taking those chances and coming out on top is the American dream to me.

I don't think any of those you listed are better options either at the moment, because I look at candidates as individuals, then when it comes to voting week, I'll pick one for sure, but I give them all a fair chance.
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User avatar #255 to #254 - gigaidan (01/08/2016) [-]
"Cut off immigration from Islamic countries until we find a way to ensure that they aren't terrorists." really? Some of the attacks in Europe were from people from inside the countries. "Well, we will forbid the entrance of any muslim" faking papers to get fake: nationality, religion, name, is not that hard and people does it all the time. "Well, **** it. No one can come inside" Problem solved

"Build a wall on our Southern border to protect America" from.... what? mexicans? are mexicans a great menace to America now? And c'mon. I said REALISTIC solutions. Is it really a 2000 mile wall a realistic solution to you? Who's going to pay for that **** ?. Oh, no, never mind. I remember... the mexicans. He is going to make the mexicans pay for it. God forbid they say "No". That will be really awkward.

"...illegal immigration as an economic issue" aha. Good point. Again... How?

Look, the problem is NOT that he doesn't see the problem. The problem is not that he is not verbal about it. The problem is, and I repeat it. He. Has. NO. Effing. Idea. How. To. Solve. Dude, no. Sorry. Those are terrible ideas. Completely impractical and nonsensical

As for your answer for the American dream. That sounds like a reasonable answer. How is it that you can come with something like that in an Internet forum, and he just started to spit nonsensical BS? Was he nervous? was he? what? the guy who ask everyone call him "The Donald" got the spookies?

I'm not going to convince you for whom to vote. Your mind is already set, and I don't think I'm gonna change it in any way and I don't want to . But Trump is not the savior America needs. He is not a Messiah. He isn't, by any means, the best option available. And I don't think he will change anything for the best. Why? well. because he has not given ME any reason to believe he will. That's all.
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#256 to #255 - ascartes (01/08/2016) [-]
Well I never went as far to say cut off immigration completely. What attacks in Europe were from people who weren't influenced by ISIS?
Yes fake documents is a large issue, but that is not quite something the US president can do something about, if other countries support producing fake papers (as they do in Syria)

Did you not read that I just said someone in Texas (I think Houston) was arrested for ties to ISIS, and he came through the Southern border. There are more and more arrests in Mexico of Middle-Eastern men who support ISIS and have said that they will use our Southern border to get in. I know the intent of terrorism is to scare people into doing stupid **** , but I don't exactly want the people here anyway.

So here goes the illegal immigrants and wall part. The more I type the more biased I sound, but it is what it is.

So, I think that building a wall would create a healthy amount of jobs for people for at least half a year, if not more. It would (assuming you only hire legal workers) allow previously unemployed people to get off of the welfare that they are on, and then pay their fair share of taxes to put money back into the system that they had been drawing on for so long.

As far as illegals being an economic issue of themselves, I will try to use the simplest example, but feel free if you want another.

Think of the public school system, that at least in the Southern areas, is filled with Illegals/Anchor babies as a result of the American welfare magnet. The cost of educating an ever growing population that doesn't 100% contribute to the system, gets free lunch because they get the other welfare services, and then fills the classrooms even more. My home town had to build two new schools (though the ones replaced are only 17 years old) because of the huge increase in population growth of the Hispanic group locally. So, the costs of building newer schools (which I won't say is 100% bad), hiring more teachers to handle the more students, and having to deal with more crowded classrooms than before, thus lowering overall quality of education which leads to graduates being even less ready for the college/professional world than they possibly would have been.

For the record, I don't think Trump is the savior for America, and I'm not even leaning to voting for him at the moment, but I think some of the points he makes are valid in this case, though I have not and will not said that I agree with everything he says.
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User avatar #257 to #256 - gigaidan (01/08/2016) [-]
Yes. Trump sometimes hits the nail on the head. Not gonna deny that.

Ok. Illegal immigrants may be a problem. It shouldn't be a thing. America has the sovereign right to deny the entry of any individual that it sees fit as long as the basic human rights are respected, I have no problems with the repatriation of illegal immigrants

But well. Are you positive that the increase of Hispanic in your town is, by majority, illegal? one of my mexicans friends said that a common practice in the mexican border, is that if a girl is going to give birth soon, they travel as turists, give birth in america, and then go back. The child is a legal american citizen by birth right. He has an american niece this way . Illegal? no. sneaky? yes. What I say is that they aren't necessarily all illegal. There are 55 millions of legal Hispanics in US, vs an estimate of 6.5 million who aren't. Statistically, it's impossible for that increment in your town to be 100% illegal.

Building a wall is really not going to solve the problem. Really. Use that money and man power to build more and better schools for the people. It is not going to solve the terrorist problem, but is going to solve so many others, and in a better way.

I understand your security concern. I really do. I am a hot blooded human being, and I'm scared and worried too. But I can't back up a dumb idea just because we can't think about something else for the moment. We are smarter than that.

And c'mon. If invading US's south was such an easy thing, there will be A) more illegal immigrants, and B) way more terrorist entering since very long ago. Just because they say they are gonna do it, doesn't mean they can. That guy in Texas? possibly another lonely jackass trying to get some attention. I try not to close my eyes to obvious threats, but I can't let the fear rule my common sense either.
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#258 to #257 - ascartes (01/08/2016) [-]
Well, to answer your point about giving birth across the border I will quote myself
"Think of the public school system, that at least in the Southern areas, is filled with Illegals/Anchor babies as a result of the American welfare magnet"

That is what Anchor babies are.

I know from personal acquaintance in high school, that I would say at least a third of the Hispanics I knew were either illegal themselves, or had at least one parent that is. Now, as with any culture, some of those people were my friends, and were even among the smartest people in my class, but as nice as they were, illegal immigration is a problem.

If we had the wall, we wouldn't need schools that had capacity for 5,000, but instead maybe 3,000, though the ratio here is honestly more Hispanic than that. (Yes I know every Hispanic isn't illegal, but to me, descendants of illegals, while technically are legal if they were born here, I'm not a fan of birthright citizenship because that should only apply to already American people, I think.)
Anyways, we could build more, smaller schools, which would allow for specializations of schools. Imagine if your high school district when you were still in it (if you aren't) had a different high school if you wanted to learn more about medicine, or basic engineering, things like that. I think those are better than a single school with a million classrooms anyway.

The terrorist problem is my main concern, and since American people like to pride themselves on "Freedom/Privacy" then the wall would allow for increased security without the need of increased invasion.

You said yourself the immigrant number is an estimate, so perhaps there are more illegals, and we also know that every state has current ISIS investigations going on, so maybe there are more terrorists too.

But, in attempt to sound like a racist (apparently) I know that illegals commit a lot of crime and are not adequately punished for it. I think the Bill of Rights/Constitution should only apply to CITIZENS as the thing says multiple times, so those here illegally are not entitled to the same privacy/rights we are. No, don't just go around killing people, but then again, that is what they are doing.

Appreciate the conversation.
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User avatar #259 to #258 - gigaidan (01/08/2016) [-]
I appreciate as well that there is an actual conversation and not a competition of insults.

See ya around.
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#181 to #73 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
[Citation Needed]

source or it didn't happen, pal

el prez doesn't run the economy, people make economic decisions on their own.
economic policy by fiat is why we are in this mess in the first place.

and DON'T ******* PUT YOUR MONEY UNDER YOUR MATTRESS LIKE SOME DUMB YOKEL **** INFLATION WILL EAT YOU ALIVE AND SPIT OUT YOUR BONES

buy things that keep value, land, stocks and bonds, precious metals or better yet guns.
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User avatar #262 to #73 - frozo (01/11/2016) [-]
Filing for bankruptcy was the right decision to do, and he manipulated and played the system like any smart business owner would do. Because he did it, he can see the flaws in our economy.

Trump may be a bully, but he understands the threat of illegal immigration. I myself am an immigrant, but I didn't hop the border and make an anchor baby. If people want to immigrate into our country, I am completely fine with it. But they should pay taxes and be registered as citizens.

It's what they teach you in ECON 101. If there are ANY free riders in the system, it grows less efficient and more wasteful. Undocumented and illegal immigrants are free riders of the roads and highways. That itself is a problem.

And wait until you see Bernie Panders' story. "Let's make Wall Street pay for it!". Pfizer just recently moved their headquarters to Ireland because of the US tax rate. Everyone called it despicable. And Bernie thinks a 90% tax rate is fine? Once every major corporation moves to tax havens, the US is screwed.

You need some basic economic knowledge if you actually believe Sanders' story about socialism. Or, hell, a history book.

I read this one good post about the election. "Bernie panders to the young and stupid. Trump panders to the old and stupid. Clinton panders to the stupid and stupid".

Overall, I don't think you or a good half of FJ understands how the economy works. You hear "FREE COLLEGE AND MONEY!!! THE RICH WILL PAY FOR IT ALL!!!!!!" and think it's true.

I would rather have Rand Paul get the presidency, but it's very unlikely
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User avatar #264 to #262 - gigaidan (10 hours ago) [-]
You may know a lot of economy. But I'll tell you what you have not. Reading comprehension. Since my whole point went completely over your head, let's try this again:

"you actually believe Sanders' story about socialism"

Exactly how did you came to that conclusion from what I said? I don't support socialism or communism or any of that BS. I may not understand much of economy, but I really fail to see how criticizing Trump (apparently the embodiment of capitalism according to you) immediately puts a "socialist" tag on my neck.

"You hear "FREE COLLEGE AND MONEY!!! THE RICH WILL PAY FOR IT ALL!!!!!!" and think it's true."

Again, please tell me. Where did you got that from my commentary? I never said such a thing, nor was I even close to it. I don't believe in the "Robin Hood" tales, and absolutely nothing I said leads to that conclusion.

What is it with you people that feel that if someone doesn't particularly likes or trusts one individual then immediately believe that that someone must also be against everything they represent? "You don't like Trump, you are a socialist and you only want free money from the riches" wtf kind of ****** conclusion is that, honestly?
"You don't agree with what Trump says you are a Bernie/Clinton/Bush lover", no. As a matter of fact, I don't like any of those ******* .... how is that for you?

My point with Trump has always been that his solutions are ridiculous beyond believe. "We have a illegal immigration problem. Let's build a 2000 mile wall". "ISIS may be a problem. All Muslims banned".... I have always admitted that Trump makes several valid points. But that he gives solutions that would make a 5 year old roll his eyes.

Are the others better?. **** no. That's the whole point. They are all awful, and I am in my right to criticize them.

Do I have better solutions? No. But I am not running for ******* president.

Conclusion: Trump makes valid points. His solutions are **** . Trump made several decisions in the past that caused millions in loses. They way he worked around them to still get gains doesn't mean he is going to fix the economy. From what I read, he may just keep it the way it is. Why change something that made him rich in the first place?

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User avatar #238 to #50 - shrinkzz (01/07/2016) [-]
Maybe they do more crime because you're not gonna go steal **** when you're doing fine. You think it's "in their blood" or some /pol/ **** like that?
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User avatar #261 to #238 - frozo (01/11/2016) [-]
I don't think anything like that. I think there's no point in trying to apologize for them. If they do crime, they should pay for the consenquences.

If you think they need a free pass to rob or steal or murder, then you're part of the problem.

If a white man goes and kills a man, he gets arrested or shot. If a black man does the same, he gets arrested or shot. And then black people start rioting and say that he was a good boy and didn't do nuthin.

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User avatar #263 to #261 - shrinkzz (01/11/2016) [-]
Oh come on, let's not pretend that everytime someone gets shot by the cops, it's completely called for, white or black. Some of them are outright murderers. The fact is police are way more eager to pull the trigger on a black person than on a white person, and that's a problem. There is a valid reason BLM exists. Many of them are incredible hypocrites, but the movement is necessary if you want to end/reduce racism in the police dept.

And what the **** are you even talking about when you say "free pass"? I don't think Bernie denies that black people do more crime, the message is that black people generally have less possibilities in life and therefore are more likely to resort to crime, as well as the fact that judges are more likely to send black people to jail than whites. He's not saying that black people shouldn't go to jail for doing crime. I thought that was was pretty damn obvious, but you seem to be missing the point completely.

TL/DR: Bernie wants to improve black lives and end institutionalized racism, not give black people a "free pass" when they commit a crime. which was incredibly obvious, tbh.
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User avatar #12 to #10 - thechosentroll (01/07/2016) [-]
Or Bernie. The guy knows about as much about economics and management as the other 3.

Frankly, the US is kind of screwed either way.
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User avatar #13 to #12 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Bernie..actually knows what he's talking about tho...
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User avatar #14 to #13 - thechosentroll (01/07/2016) [-]
No, he THINKS he knows what he's talking about and his little cult believe it without ever questioning a single word he says. Basically, the same **** Trump does, except people don't hate him.
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User avatar #15 to #14 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
You mean suggesting what other countries are ALREADY doing?..
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User avatar #16 to #15 - thechosentroll (01/07/2016) [-]
Yes, countries that are not the US. Countries with functioning educational and welfare systems. Countries where burger flippers don't demand 15$ an hour. Countries where "I went to public school" doesn't mean "I am illiterate". Countries where people get ****** in the ass with massive taxes and are OK with it, because it's been that way for ages. Countries whos' pseudo-socialism has lead to major kebab infestations.

You can't just take a country and change it overnight. The US is veeeeeeeery right-wing. It's practically a police state in the eyes of some people. You can't just take that and turn it into a liberal Utopia. The economy isn't built to support that. People don't want to support that. They will ******* riot if you tried to implement half the **** Bernie Panders is promising, because it'd mean absurdly high taxes.
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User avatar #20 to #16 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
...When i worked in fast food i earned 22-5$ an hour.. and i'm in Australia..

He is suggesting taxes that will BENEFIT your country. Instead of listening to what ever you have been, actually READ his proposals.
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User avatar #23 to #20 - thechosentroll (01/07/2016) [-]
Yes, but you don't seem to understand. People are ******* idiots. The lot of them. They are just so goddamn stupid you wouldn't believe. Yes, the taxes will benefit the country. Pretty much all taxes benefit the country in some way. However, people don't give a **** about that. All they care about is their own money. And in their eyes, everything that makes them pay money and doesn't give them something in return within 30 seconds is evil.
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User avatar #25 to #23 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Its because america really needs a government reset, all these Parties all picking on each other and **** , news channels DEVOTED to slandering people without even doing checks.

hell, There's the whole "Omg if you tax the 1%, Everyones taxes will go up! and you don't want to pay more taxes do you?"

And yeah, The americans are too stupid to notice they are no where near the 1%, the 1% being Million / Billionaires.

So that's why i'm hoping bernie because he can actually HELP your ( i am assuming) Country out before you hit a ******* massive money drop and the US dollar is worth **** .
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#85 to #25 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
I think in reality people who are genuinely voting for trump are either stupid or want to just outright show that the political system is such garbage that it should be completely trashed and redone.
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User avatar #27 to #25 - thechosentroll (01/07/2016) [-]
No, I'm not from the US. I'm east european, so I have a LOT of experience with **** politicians. And Bernie won't do jack **** . Why? Because the president has no real power. All the bills and laws and **** , which get passed are made, approved and pushed by congressmen and lobbyists, not the president. The same congressmen and lobbyists that have been around since ******* Bush. Because the ****** US system never made a rule to kick those ******* out after a while and bring in some new ones. When you've got a congress full of mini Trumps and Hillaries, you can bet your left testicle Bernie won't be able to do jack **** . It's gonna be Obama all over again - absolutely everything remained the exact ******* same. Which is funny for a guy whos' campaign slogan was "Change".
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User avatar #28 to #27 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Which is why i said the Government needs a "Reset"
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User avatar #29 to #28 - thechosentroll (01/07/2016) [-]
In my country we have a saying "It takes 60 years to change.", because that's how long it takes for all the old supporters of the system to die. So, unless your idea of a "reset" is to murder everyone and replace them ye olde government overthrowing style, it's probably not gonna do much. If you make a new system, full of the same people as the old one, it's going to turn out the exact ******* same.
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User avatar #30 to #29 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
What i am suggestion is simple- KICK THE ******* OUT OF THE GOVERNMENT?

its not like they are BORN into the seats of the government. Its not like they are ENTITLED to it. its a JOB. They can BE FIRED by the CITIZENS. All it takes it a revolt. I mean that is why they have a Constitution, but they seem more focused on "Lemme 'ave me gun" Rather than, a functioning government.
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User avatar #31 to #30 - thechosentroll (01/07/2016) [-]
No, they can't, actually. They made laws against that.
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User avatar #32 to #31 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
No, there actually isn't if..ALL of the citizens- Or a vast majority, Demand a reform of their government... I mean i can point to a few dictator ***** turned republics for evidence of that.
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User avatar #58 to #32 - asotil (01/07/2016) [-]
Our country is so ignorant we would rather hear about Justin Bieber's DUI and Star Wars instead of our politicians involvement in multiple illegal businesses or about the Education budget getting even more cuts while we increase Israel "Defense" funds by Xbillion dollars per year

In what ******* universe do you ever see Americans actually making a change happen in any way that isn't bitching on Twitter? Because as much as this country needs a revolution as long as people can have access to the internet and a steady supply of food and diabetes medication **** is not going to change. The election doesn't even matter in reality, the next president is always whoever is going to make Congress and Senators the most money through the war industry. Why else would we never stop being at war in the Middle East? Why else would, whenever we're about to finally bring back troops from some ******** , some new terror threat just happens to pop up that "We need to defeat so the world can be safe" when it's ******* dirt farmers with a beat up Toyota pickup and the town AK?
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#215 to #58 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
Don't sell your people short, most of the general public in every country is pretty stupid.
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User avatar #206 to #58 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
I think it will happen sometime within my life time, Am i saying within the next...Decade? Probably not. But i would like to think, Our generation or at least the next will see how ****** things are getting, see they are paying for **** they hardly need anymore and change the world.

Its just the idea of hope that A generation will wake up.
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User avatar #249 to #206 - asotil (01/08/2016) [-]
This generation would let you **** them raw while stabbing their mother so long as they had wifi

America is ****** within the next 40 years with PC to blame
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User avatar #33 to #32 - thechosentroll (01/07/2016) [-]
Which isn't going to happen in a country with 700 million people living in it.
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#36 to #33 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
America doesn't have 700 million people, *******
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User avatar #37 to #36 - thechosentroll (01/07/2016) [-]
Wait. **** . I mixed it up with Europe. The US has more like 300 milion. Still a whole lot of ******* people. It's hard to get most of them to agree on something.
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User avatar #34 to #33 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Neither is them having a regulated militia...and yet..
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User avatar #79 to #25 - congthea (01/07/2016) [-]
maybe if i CAPITALISE random words now and THEN i'll seem SMARTER
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User avatar #19 to #12 - platinumaltaria ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Except he actually does know **** .
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User avatar #21 to #19 - thechosentroll (01/07/2016) [-]
Yes, he knows a lot. Mostly, he's been learning from european politicians and has mastered the art of "tell them exactly what they want to hear until you get elected". Same **** Obama did, except Panders is being a bit more specific.
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User avatar #22 to #21 - platinumaltaria ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
No that's hillary. Boy are you confused.
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User avatar #24 to #22 - thechosentroll (01/07/2016) [-]
No, it's pretty much all the candidates. Trump panders to the old and stupid. Bernie panders to the young and stupid. Hillary panders to the stupid and stupid. The main difference between the three is that it's working as intended for Sanders, while the other two are getting hated for it. Mostly by Sanders followers.
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User avatar #26 to #24 - platinumaltaria ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Trump is old and stupid... so not so much pandering as speaking his mind, which most of his fangirls like.
Bernie has been saying the same things for 20 years, because they're his opinions, that's why he's going to be against trump in the election.
Hillary is just a typical politician: she says what she thinks will get her the most votes, and gets paid off by companies in exchange for press coverage.
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#51 to #26 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
Bernie has been saying the same things for 20 years
>backs pro-gun legislation before election
>backs gun-control legislation like the awb after his seat is safe
>"all lives matter"
>two weeks later "black lives matter"

Yeah, nah, **** your shill
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User avatar #52 to #51 - platinumaltaria ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Except that's just rhetoric and not actually true, he's a staunch advocate of liberal ideas, which means "black lives matter" is his enemy.
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#54 to #52 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
****** , he voted in the biggest piece of pro gun legislation of the century and then, voted for one of the biggest anti gun pieces. That is not rhetoric, that is shilling.

And in regards to BLM, supporting dumb **** for an underlying agenda doesn't make you any less of a supporter of dumb **** .
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User avatar #55 to #54 - platinumaltaria ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
People are allowed to change their minds...

It's a good thing he doesn't support it then...
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#83 to #55 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
Yes, people are allowed to change their minds. But that isn't "saying the same thing"
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User avatar #43 to #26 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
keep dreaming , that old cuck isn't going to give you more money for your mental illness platinumaltaria
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User avatar #44 to #43 - platinumaltaria ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
you're so thirsty for attention.
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User avatar #46 to #44 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Thirsty for your tiddies
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User avatar #47 to #46 - platinumaltaria ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
I DON'T HAVE BREASTS YOU RETARD
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User avatar #48 to #47 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Lemme suckle ;******
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#82 to #48 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
Just wanna thank you for the first genuine laugh I've had in the comments for a good while.
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User avatar #90 to #82 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
you didn't have to go anon platinumaltaria
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User avatar #229 to #21 - shrinkzz (01/07/2016) [-]
Except he's been talking about the same issues for three decades. He's without a doubt the most honest of all the contestants.
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User avatar #230 to #229 - thechosentroll (01/07/2016) [-]
An honest incompetent person is still incompetent.
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User avatar #231 to #230 - shrinkzz (01/07/2016) [-]
Incompetent my ass. He never lost an election as far as I know, I could be wrong in his life, and was voted one of the best mayors in America at one point. You may disagree with some stuff he says, but he's pretty far from incompetent.
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#63 to #10 - firesky (01/07/2016) [-]
This election will unfortunately end up in a dick vs. cunt stand-off.
Alltough the other candidates seem to not be any better either
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#40 to #10 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
what does it matter who gets elected, all possible candidates will do exactly **** all, either cuz they are just helping out their rich buddies or cuz the opposition will block ANY good they try to do.
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User avatar #152 - elcreepo (01/07/2016) [-]
Why do black people like trump

He's literally the epithet of "I'M RICH, MALE AND WHITE AND ******* LOVING IT"

Yeah he hasn't said **** about black people but that's because even Trump recognizes the ********** of that decision

Never criticize a minority that riots at the slightest hint of racism
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User avatar #209 to #152 - thinemother (01/07/2016) [-]
Well not all black people are obsessed with race and ****
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User avatar #234 to #209 - elcreepo (01/07/2016) [-]
The ones in the content are.

They call hilary a white old bitch.

Trump isn't exactly brown.
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User avatar #236 to #234 - thinemother (01/07/2016) [-]
fair point
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User avatar #235 to #234 - elcreepo (01/07/2016) [-]
Or young*
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User avatar #241 to #152 - friendlyanonymous (01/07/2016) [-]
Probably because Trump supports affirmative action.
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User avatar #243 to #241 - elcreepo (01/07/2016) [-]
*Says* he supports affirmative action

With the way he treats literally anyone besides himself I have to question if he thinks that's true
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User avatar #244 to #243 - elcreepo (01/07/2016) [-]
good* not true
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User avatar #216 to #152 - nanako ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
he has said some things.
why can't blacks like a white guy? That assumption is racist :3
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User avatar #233 to #216 - elcreepo (01/07/2016) [-]
Trump has said some racist/sexist things to other groups in the past.

They can like a white guy, but they criticize Hilary for being a white old bitch. Why is trump any better?
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User avatar #2 - ravepen (01/07/2016) [-]
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#68 - gedoushinken (01/07/2016) [-]
GIF
Remember when everyone here supported Bernie and now changed their minds, I mean what happened?
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User avatar #71 to #68 - superanonymouspers (01/07/2016) [-]
I think the majority of people here like him ironically. Like, they don't actually like him. They just like the meme and hype around him.
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User avatar #75 to #71 - gedoushinken (01/07/2016) [-]
Ohh, just like Hitler meme.
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User avatar #76 to #75 - superanonymouspers (01/07/2016) [-]
Yeah probably.
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User avatar #114 to #76 - heartlessrobot (01/07/2016) [-]
Well, I wouldn't compare Sanders to Hitler. At least Hitler did good for the economy.
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#125 to #114 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
The Nazi party completely destroyed Germany's recovering economy... Everything went to military and most people under the regime essentially lived in abject poverty. Many people died both in and out of war, leaving Germany's workforce trashed. Agricultural production fell by almost half, and many people had to quit more productive jobs in order to actually feed their families.

Germans work hard now for a reason. Because for about 100 years they had to work their asses off just to get by. It's instilled in their culture now, so I guess that's something positive you can say about Hitler if anything.
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User avatar #127 to #125 - heartlessrobot (01/07/2016) [-]
Still, it pulled the entire country out of their greatest depression yet. Same as it did for America.
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#137 to #127 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
That's a complete fallacy on the way economics works.

People lived on rationed food and had no excess. You can't eat bombs, tanks, or bullets, yet this is what was being produced.

The US would not have even had a Great Depression were it not for Government policy at the time. There was an even greater drop in the Stock Market years before Black Tuesday but the market corrected the recession without bailouts and jobs programs. Then come bailouts, jobs programs, bank regulations, and the works and suddenly the market peters out into a Depression that didn't end until AFTER the war when the US got the experienced workforce back to producing things other than military weaponry.

Same exact thing happened in Germany on an even greater scale. What you learn in public school is highly subject to rational criticism.
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User avatar #219 to #125 - nanako ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
that is complete ******** . Germany didn't HAVE a recovering economy. It had hyperinflation to the point where a wheelbarrow full of cash was required to buy a loaf of bread.

The ********** of the weimar republic, and the crushing versailles treaty, drove germany's economy in the ground, and it stayed that way until hitler took power
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#250 to #219 - anon (01/08/2016) [-]
Obviously you've done the research, so show me the numbers. Because that's not the way I read it.

GDP grew under Hitler's regime, but GDP does not equal economic growth despite what some economists would like you to think. Tanks and bullets that are expended for the purpose of war have a no impact to the standard of living at best, but they count towards the GDP.
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User avatar #88 to #71 - fatsigurd (01/07/2016) [-]
are you talking about Trump or Sanders?
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#86 to #68 - jdizzleoffthehizzl (01/07/2016) [-]
He's got my vote because of his view on public colleges alone. While I don't agree with him on everything like the wage gap, I believe in equality of marriage, pro-choice, and really alot of left-wing ideas. And his stance on Gun control (NOT CONFISCATION) is in line with my right wing views as well
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#116 to #86 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
>College is now "free"
>Stock market takes massive hit due to high taxes on speculators
>Web based businesses like Amazon take massive hits on income
>Another massive round of layoffs from big companies
>But it's okay because colleges are now even more impacted and college administrators can now get paid even more

Meanwhile the public school system already keeps kids for 12 years and can't even get that right. Like another 4 is going to help.

Can we get some ACTUAL solutions and not just another Politician buying votes with "free" **** paid for by other people?
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#144 to #116 - jdizzleoffthehizzl (01/07/2016) [-]
I would rather my tax dollars go towards a worthwhile thing instead of a bomb being dropped onto a third-world country
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User avatar #227 to #144 - heartlessrobot (01/07/2016) [-]
I'd rather drop a bomb on people beheading women and children for fun than pay for 100,000 women's history majors.
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#252 to #227 - jdizzleoffthehizzl (01/08/2016) [-]
They can behead them all they want sadly, because it's NOT OUR FIGHT. It isn't our land that's under attack as much as the media and politicians portray it to be
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#4 - earljhickey (01/07/2016) [-]
A lot of things change, but one thing a man could always count on was copious use of the *********** in a 4chan story.

After chuckling to myself and thumbing up the post, I remembered #49 on my list: "Banned someone who didn't deserve it".

See, back when Admin was still hungry for site traffic and ad money, he was also hiring mods out the ass. After all, more people coming through the site means more potential for rule-breaking.

So I made an alternate account with no ban history on in, and put in a request to be a mod. Sure enough, they made me one. And by the end of the day I had all the bonafied authority of a moderator.

I didn't intend to actually take it seriously though, and at the end of a 6-pack of beer I was ready to ban anything that moved. One user had been unlucky enough to get into an argument with me, and things got more than a little heated; he ended up copy-pasting a wall of text with nothing but the word " ****** " on it.

And just like that, I had given out my first, and last, perma-ban.

Not sure how I was gonna make up for this one, but something told me Admin kept a log of all the perma-bans dealt out, so it made sense to start there.
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User avatar #8 to #4 - youngneil (01/07/2016) [-]
I like you, you may stay.
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User avatar #6 to #4 - tittylovin (01/07/2016) [-]
That's a weak reason to ban someone you double ******
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#11 to #6 - norkasthethird (01/07/2016) [-]
a gift from me to you
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#64 to #4 - mewtastic (01/07/2016) [-]
My Name is Earl was fantastic. Take some green pinkies from me from now on.
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#201 to #159 - clownsplosion (01/07/2016) [-]
Attacking an unarmed opponent. Isn't that what a sith would do?
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User avatar #228 to #201 - flnonymousseven ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
and why the **** would you cut of his tail? if your gonna kill him, then kill him, but don't be a ******* sadist bernie, jesus...
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User avatar #126 - pizzaweed (01/07/2016) [-]
So far, I prefer Carson or Rubio.




Haven't seen most of their stances on the issues, but at least they both seem to not be ******* insane.



Watched the GOP Debate, and Trump was making comments about Muslims that were reminiscent to Japanese-American Internment camps
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User avatar #142 to #126 - krasnogvardiech (01/07/2016) [-]
Why the **** do you put so many linebreaks in your comments?
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User avatar #151 to #142 - trollmobile (01/07/2016) [-]
linebreakers for emphasis.
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User avatar #153 to #126 - elcreepo (01/07/2016) [-]
Jeb's pretty sane. He's also distanced himself pretty far from his father and brother. You can cry puppet all you want but he's been governor of florida for awhile and actually did some pretty good things.

Sure, he's conservative, but I think the country needs a break from liberals for awhile. At least until a liberal gains the balls to stand up for what they believe in.

I get some pretty bad vibes from Trump though... he's a manipulator. I don't think he's quite as bad at working with others as he seems, but I think he wants to use that as an excuse to seriously **** some **** up.

But that's just me.
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User avatar #129 to #126 - sketchE (01/07/2016) [-]
biggest issue with carson is he is strangely more full of **** than trump. hes a doctor and thinks vaccines cause autism. he claimed westpoint offered him a scholarship. westpoint doesnt offer scholarships. if you get in its free.
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User avatar #130 to #129 - pizzaweed (01/07/2016) [-]
Now, the autism thing I hadn't heard. I heard the issue with Westpoint was him misspeaking, but I don't believe it.


The only real reason I put his name up there with Rubio is because of his voice. It's oddly soothing, and it makes him likable, to me at least. If it came down to it, I'd vote for Rubio over him.
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User avatar #133 to #130 - sketchE (01/07/2016) [-]
i have no intention of voting for any of the current candidates right now. carson dropped significantly and cruz is number 2 right now. i dont like when people vote on personality. obamas a cool guy but not a good president
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User avatar #140 to #133 - pizzaweed (01/07/2016) [-]
Exactly. which is why I would choose Rubio over Carson. Personality is great and all, but it doesn't make a great president
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User avatar #134 to #126 - Spavaloo (01/07/2016) [-]
I... I'm not sure you've been paying attention.

Trump is crazy, but almost all of it is calculated to garner him more attention. Carson is literally detached from reality and possibly a little mentally disturbed.
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User avatar #138 to #134 - pizzaweed (01/07/2016) [-]
For the most part, I haven't.



All I've caught is the GOP debate. It's why I'm still up in the air, but for right now, I favor Rubio as my GOP candidate.



I still need to look into everyone's stances on major issues before I make a decision.


Should've made that clearer in my last comment, my bad
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User avatar #89 - doctorprofessornv (01/07/2016) [-]
Honestly I kind of want Trump to win, because let's face it no president can signlehandedly destroy the nation in 4 years no matter how much they suck. I have a pretty good idea of what will happen under Bernie or Hillary (more stagnation and ******** career politicians doing nothing of value), but Trump is the wildcard and I want to see what happens.

This is what happens when the political establishment continuously ***** on and ignores the people, a borderline looney and I really don't think he's as crazy or dumb as people make him out to be, you don't stay filthy rich for as long as he has without some amount of common sense and social acumen ends up looking like a better presidential candidate than the other options.
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User avatar #106 to #89 - ronyx (01/07/2016) [-]
The man has an ego like Assad does. It's not the first time Trump has ran for president, last time he did most of fj wasn't even born.
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#70 - superanonymouspers (01/07/2016) [-]
for christmas and new years I went home for break and found out my father is a trump supporter.

It was not a good thing to find out. Basically his entire reason for supporting him is (He's gonna kick out the illegals an refugee's) and so on. I always knew my dad was prejudice, but he's never let it get to the point where he straight up judges people because of it. I never thought he was like that, so it was kind of a crushing thing to realize.
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User avatar #237 to #70 - alekksandar (01/07/2016) [-]
>likes weeb cartoons
>hates trump
>wants to blanda upp
>probably supports fag marriage too

I feel sorry for your dad.
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#239 to #237 - superanonymouspers (01/07/2016) [-]
Get better bait friend.
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#93 to #70 - tealcanaan (01/07/2016) [-]
Your father has a pathetic cuck for a son, my condolences to him
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#100 to #70 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
"Multiculturalism is important for a functional society!"

Meanwhile hundreds of people are raped and mugged in Germany by refugees on New Year's Day alone.

Say what you want about not judging people because of where they come from, but your upbringing says everything about you as a person, and these are not people who are raised with Western values. They can't live peacefully in a place that is antithetical to their own culture, and we can't live peacefully if we let in thousands of people who have an antithetical culture that we then support with welfare, jobs programs, public housing, etc.

The world isn't sunshine and rainbows like Sanders and other left-wing candidates want you to think. Stop pretending that everybody is the same. People like that are killing what's left of civilized society. These aren't peaceful people looking for a place to fit in. These are people coming from places with Medieval levels of civility, who can't stand to see things different from what they grew up with.

There is a time and place for acceptance and openness, and there is a time and place to say enough is enough. It's long past due that we said enough and stop feeding this ridiculous fad of political correctness.
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#107 to #100 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
"hundreds of rapes" topkek, why stop at hundreds and not say thousands? It'll make it more true
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User avatar #147 to #110 - scorcho (01/07/2016) [-]
there was only one reported case of rape.
what happened there was absolutely appalling, but there is no need to twist facts just to make your story more dramatic.
that's what the sensationalist media is for.
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#185 to #147 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
[Citation Needed]

hold on a sec are you tryin' to culturally enrich us?
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User avatar #213 to #185 - scorcho (01/07/2016) [-]
>>#110, you imbecile
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#242 to #100 - superanonymouspers (01/07/2016) [-]
I talk about myself a little bit and you think you know everything about my upbringing? You think I'm mr. "everyone is the same, can't we all just get along?"

While I completely understand everyone's feelings towards the refugee's, myself included. It's retarded to judge someone based entirely on their appearance. However I realize that a lot of the people fleeing from the country are also people who simply want to live without fear of getting their faces kicked in or worse.

But the people we DO let in are subjected to INTENSE screening and are under constant surveillance and are most likely consistently suspected to be a terrorist unless proven otherwise. After what happened in paris, every country that has even considered letting in Ref's do this to them, we are no exception.

I agree that letting in thousands of Ref's would be a big cluster **** , but what kind of people could we call ourselves if we just turned a blind eye to people who need help?

I've seen the videos, I've read the articles so on and so forth. I've seen plenty of ****** refs who are only looking out for themselves. I've seen how crazy and violent some of them can be and honestly it scares me to that some of these people want to get into the US. But I've also seen the ones who simply want to get away from the violence and hatred of their home country.

No one is born equal and people are not equal, much to SJW's and whoever the **** else's dismay. But we need to reach some freaking common ground and figure out what the **** to do. Because turning away people who need help is not what the US is, or at least it's not what we should be. Should we help every joe who asks for help? Obviously not, we need to prioritize ourselves too. But this is a pretty serious crisis and not helping them would be like betraying ourselves.

Lastly, political correctness can go **** itself with a cactus.
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#117 - cackrel (01/07/2016) [-]
I like Bernie Sanders and he's probably the most fit candidate for the presidency.
Like, there are a lot of strange things about the US healthcare system as an example.

1.The US is one of the biggest spender of healthcare and it's privatized.. which means that hospitals can hold your health hostage.

2.What's up with your education system?

3. Don't give me the large nation ******** , you could literally have states provide the healthcare with some federal funding, it's doable, it's just that in the US you have to own money to be actually free.
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User avatar #120 to #117 - lolollo (01/07/2016) [-]
It's because we're still working to clear the echoes of the generations before us, where angrily shouting "HOW COULD YOU LIKE *CANDIDATE*, YOU MUST BE AN IDIOT!" was a viable, logical argument for why you would vote for someone.
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User avatar #143 to #117 - ronyx (01/07/2016) [-]
Education in the US is **** , look at no child left behind. It's a known truth that Americans can't do math.
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User avatar #162 to #117 - durkadurka (01/07/2016) [-]
1. As opposed to the government holding your health hostage? Do you think it's more likely that a hospital will deny itself your money and potentially ruin its reputation or that government bureaucrats will use control over health care to reward political allies and punish political opponents?
2. What's up is that guaranteed federal loans plus a false cultural narrative that everyone has to go to college has inflated its cost. It's a bubble. The quality of our colleges, minus the progressive nonsense, is just fine.

3. Central planning does not scale well. Also, health concerns are going to be different for people in Maine versus people in Florida, or Arizona, etc. One size fits all is an asinine notion especially in a nation that's supposed to value individualism and liberty
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User avatar #177 to #162 - cackrel (01/07/2016) [-]
Well Mr.Durkadurka, what about France then and the rest of the civilized world?
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#187 to #177 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
mass rapes=civilized?

college needs to have a cost. if its free, you get too many raceturbators with liberal sharts degrees calling for your extinction because you were born.
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User avatar #188 to #187 - cackrel (01/07/2016) [-]
There seems to be plenty of those in the US where education costs a ********* .
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User avatar #184 to #177 - durkadurka (01/07/2016) [-]
"Because other people do it" is not really an argument for or against anything.
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User avatar #186 to #184 - cackrel (01/07/2016) [-]
Notable examples and looking at systems that are successful however is.
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User avatar #189 to #186 - durkadurka (01/07/2016) [-]
Sure, but we must be careful not to do things simply because that is the way they are done.
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#122 to #117 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
1. Healthcare is far from private. There are books upon books of legislation and many MANY Government departments that deal with every aspect of Healthcare from medical practices to insurance.

2. The education system is also far from private. Education is compulsory and teacher's unions have a huge influence on legislators. The Education system in the US is about the teachers and administrators, not about the kids. This even rings true for higher education. Universities receive exorbitant subsidies that for the most part go to administrators, faculty, or pet projects like Stadiums, Gyms, Food Courts, etc. all of which are then utilized as further streams of income from students.

3. The states are currently providing healthcare with some federal funding. That's literally the current situation. It's just that taxpayers have to pay for the bureaucracy, federal, and state subsidies while also paying for insurance. What happened was the Healthcare system was so inexpensive that doctors felt they couldn't make enough money due to competition. So they lobbied for medical licencing. That wasn't enough so they lobbied for more and more, and while doctors started making more taxpayers decided that healthcare was getting too expensive, so the taxpayers then lobbied for the Government to do something about it in the way of programs. So now you have the Healthcare industry growing on the private and public sides, which is why American healthcare is so outrageously expensive.

The real solution is to stop initiating force against everybody and let peaceful people be peaceful people, but apparently that's just crazy talk.
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#94 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
Little known fact is that black people absolutely ******* abhor Mexicans. Even aside from gang relations. Try talking to somebody in a poor neighborhood about immigration and 9 times out of 10 they will be supportive of border control so strong that North Korea would object.
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#104 to #94 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
Probably because people would rather hire Mexicans than lazy *******
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#65 - tealcanaan (01/07/2016) [-]
repost because **** you
Real Reasons I Like Trump
>Wants to raise tariffs to bring parity to international trade this is especially relevant in the entirety of asia moh manufacturing jobs *****
>Wants to actually stop the flow of uneducated workers from down south,keeping with the status quo only benefits the wealthy service industry leaders, for the common man it create an ever growing underclass and completely stagnates social mobility
>Wants to limit H1-B/H2-B visas, this is particularly of interest to me as an engineer these visas result in the stagnation and undercutting of professional level workers, further devaluing out colleges degrees, as well as again, promoting the stagnation of social mobility, and furthering the degradation of the middle class.
>His tax plan won't encourage capital flight, along with his tariff proposal, will result in more wealth distributed down to workers from jobs created

seriously look at the US import taxes, they are ridiculously low compared to the nation we export to, I believe in fair trade, but when we have supper high taxes against us and nothing comparatively, we are not on fair ground

**** , I don't even have to get into the cultural factors as to why I want to vote for him and I like him already.
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User avatar #92 to #65 - ronyx (01/07/2016) [-]
Everyone enjoys cheap labor. You start hiring Americans to flip burgers and they start demanding 15 dollars per hour. You start hiring Americans to pick fruit and they demand higher wages which in turn increase the price of basic produce. I know this is a strange topic for you because probably your mom buys the groceries.
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User avatar #95 to #92 - tealcanaan (01/07/2016) [-]
Again, I'm employed as an engineer lmao. But w/e, what will happen is what always happen, either wages will rise, or increased cost will force industrials to innovate with technology to minimize cost. Also, are you just going to ignore the rest of my statement, regarding social mobility, underclass, import taxation, etc? Buddy, all mass immigration does is continue the slow decline into the polarized society we see on the horizon.
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User avatar #98 to #95 - ronyx (01/07/2016) [-]
>implying being an engineer makes you any less of a dumb **** who knows literally nothing about basic consequences of certain actions like increasing exponentially wages.
I'm sorry if I don't waste my time with the rest of your blabber.
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User avatar #99 to #98 - tealcanaan (01/07/2016) [-]
lmao, so you have no point?
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#191 to #98 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
cry more needledick
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User avatar #195 to #191 - ronyx (01/07/2016) [-]
kek
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User avatar #115 to #92 - heartlessrobot (01/07/2016) [-]
Tell them to **** off and keep flipping burgers. They protest, fire them and hire another round of highschoolers. Minimum wage isn't supposed to be livable, you shouldn't be using it to support a family.
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User avatar #224 to #115 - Ruspanic ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
And yet people are. What should someone do if they can't get a higher-paying job?
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User avatar #225 to #224 - heartlessrobot (01/07/2016) [-]
Send their family off to live with relatives or starve to death?
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User avatar #251 to #225 - Ruspanic ONLINE (01/08/2016) [-]
that hardly seems like a realistic or humane expectation. Would you prefer that poor people live off welfare rather than a minimum wage job?
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User avatar #260 to #251 - heartlessrobot (01/08/2016) [-]
I'd prefer they live off of double minimum wage working a factory job, construction, or as a farmhand.
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User avatar #157 to #92 - durkadurka (01/07/2016) [-]
The issue is that we're bringing in this influx of low skill workers and the same people who support this tend to also be in favor of artificially raising the price of those workers.

It makes no ******* sense and ultimately screws over our own low skill workers.
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User avatar #165 to #157 - ronyx (01/07/2016) [-]
Our own low skill workers are demanding 15 for flipping burgers. **** that.
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User avatar #166 to #165 - durkadurka (01/07/2016) [-]
Point is, we can't have it both ways.
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User avatar #170 to #166 - ronyx (01/07/2016) [-]
People are going to lose their **** whether price of the basic basket starts going up. Much so because those affected will be low and middle classes, the largest classes in America.. We have become too dependent I'm cheap labor, manufacturing and outsourced labor that going back is next to impossible. Obviously the issue is far more complex than raising wages and hope for the best.
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User avatar #173 to #170 - durkadurka (01/07/2016) [-]
This is all pretty much true. If we didn't have an artificial floor on their wages, they would be lower than they are today. To try and raise them just makes absolutely no sense.
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User avatar #175 to #173 - ronyx (01/07/2016) [-]
Indeed, but one of the things that makes America great is that stuff is cheap which allows poor people to be able to afford washing machines or ac on their homes. Compared to the poor in other countries, the poor in the US have it well.
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User avatar #182 to #175 - durkadurka (01/07/2016) [-]
It really is crazy how good the poor have it compared to the rest of the world or even just a short while ago. Poor used to describe someone who could barely feed themselves and now we're describing someone who can't afford newer phones and TVs and whatnot.

I used to have this picture of the results of a study which showed that most of our poorest had tvs, vehicles, your typical appliances, etc. It's truly amazing.
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User avatar #190 to #182 - ronyx (01/07/2016) [-]
Indeed
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#163 to #65 - durkadurka (01/07/2016) [-]
GIF
Ever since I learned about it, the H1-B thing has worried me too.
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User avatar #174 to #163 - tealcanaan (01/07/2016) [-]
**** ya man, thousands of Indians and other assorted Asians willing to work for half the wage coming over for to years at a time with no real commitment from the companies worries me too, completely devalues entry level professional workers. they do trash work anyway
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User avatar #176 to #174 - tealcanaan (01/07/2016) [-]
two*
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#7 - hotpiss (01/07/2016) [-]
Can't trump the stump.
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#49 to #7 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
damn you're hawt
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User avatar #102 to #49 - thegreentornado (01/07/2016) [-]
-piss
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User avatar #109 to #108 - thegreentornado (01/07/2016) [-]
Scrub
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User avatar #111 to #109 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
did you make out with your dyke friends?
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