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WWII Weapons part 2

Kyushu J7W 'Shinden'

High altitude interceptor.

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An aircraft with one mission, to destroy B-29 raids over japan. The J7W1 'Shinden' (magnificent lightning) was another last-ditch effort by Japan to stop the unending bombing campaigns on the Japanese mainland.

The Boeing B-29 Superfortress was the United State's most advanced bomber at the time, being pressurized, it could achieve an altitude of up to 32,000 ft. While most bombers at the time operated under 25,000 ft.

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The Shinden was specifically designed to destroy high level bombers. Two 20 mm nose mounted cannons were the armament for this aircraft. It hat a very high rate of climb, and could ascend to 4500 ft in one minute (1400 meters) The rear mounted engine gave this aircraft an incredible top speed of 470 mph. (750 kph) also making it one of the fastest all wood aircraft in history.

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It's unique canard wing layout gave it the rank as one of the most maneuverable aircraft of the war. Although it came at a disadvantage, with it's weight primarily centered at the rear of the aircraft, low speed flight was dangerous, and was prone to stalling while landing, and flipping over when preforming high speed maneuvers.

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Only two prototypes were built, one in 1943, and the second in 1945. This aircraft never saw combat. Put togather both aircraft only had a combined flight time of 45 minutes. The second prototype was flying even while the terms of surrender were being discussed

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(sorry for double upload) Both survived the war, and some even were built afterwards to be used as a light scout aircraft for other countries such as Korea and China. Even then, none of them have been known to have been used in combat. One now remains and is in storage in the Paul E. Garber facility at the Smithsonian, it is currently being restored to flying condition.

Tags: Japan | experimental | Weapons | wwII

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#1 - thecraftedmine [OP](10/11/2015) [+] (20 replies)

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#4 - yips ONLINE (10/11/2015) [-]

WWII prototype anything is always cool to read about

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#27 - anon (10/12/2015) [-]

And yet in War Thunder it turns like a brick...

#52 to #27 - childpls (10/12/2015) [-]

working as intended comrade )))

#45 to #27 - seeingred (10/12/2015) [-]

War Thunder's engine does not know how to fly the conard wing configuration, so it's pretty inefficient and needs some extreme tweaking on the Russian developer's part. Of course, I'm not sure if that will happen in the next... Several...YEARS...

#2 - anonymoussarcasm (10/11/2015) [-]

Do panzers

#21 to #2 - pkpg (10/12/2015) [-]

Muh panzeruz

#20 to #2 - dankmemepepe (10/12/2015) [-]

#3 to #2 - thecraftedmine [OP](10/11/2015) [-]

jawohl

#23 - petresko (10/12/2015) [-]

Dang,I remember seeing this plane in Strikers 1945 and thought it was some fictional abomination.

#25 - krasnogvardiech (10/12/2015) [-]

**** Yeah, Bloodhawks.

#33 to #25 - Konigsteiger (10/12/2015) [-]

I recall that plane being more akin to the Henschel Hs P.75 than the Shinden.

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#26 - tittylovin (10/12/2015) [-]

>propeller on back of plane
That's not how planes work. That's not how planes work at all.

#43 to #26 - anon (10/12/2015) [-]

Have you, perchance, heard of the Wright brothers? :7

#42 to #26 - thesovereigngrave (10/12/2015) [-]

There have been plenty of designs like that.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pusher_configuration

#32 - madb (10/12/2015) [-]

why the **** is it called weapons instead of aircrafts. i exptected a bunch of guns, not airplanes.

#34 to #32 - thecraftedmine [OP](10/12/2015) [-]

because i haven't gotten to guns yet

#38 to #34 - madb (10/12/2015) [-]

but why does it all have to be under the same comp anyways? you could make individual comps from ww2 and not have a false title.because these arent weapons, they are vehicles. vehicles used for war purpouses but a vehicle none the less.

a car with a gun mounted on it isnt a weapon. its still a car.

#53 to #38 - KEpToK (10/12/2015) [-]

An aircraft designed for the express purpose of flying through the air so that it can place it's many bullets inside of you is considered a "weapon". It is a weapon of war.

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#55 to #53 - madb (10/12/2015) [-]

take close look at this wikipedia page. notice how aircrafts and weapons are catagorised differently. do research before you make statements. you can tape a glock to a toaster. but at the end of the dead the toaster isnt a weapon, its just a toaster with a gun taped to it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_World_War_II_military_equipment

#56 to #55 - KEpToK (10/12/2015) [-]

Ok Smarty McSmartpants, you win. Your 1 Wikipedia has opened my eyes to the ways of believing simply because a page was laid out categorically instead of lumping everything into one WEAPONS article. Despite the existence of actual military documents located in London's Imperial War Museum and Fort Ruckers U.S Army Aviation Museum, you are 100% correct bud.

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#16 - thesovereigngrave (10/12/2015) [-]

Hey, you should mention the Dornier Do 335 in one of these. Silly looking, but fast as **** .

#22 to #16 - pkpg (10/12/2015) [-]

Can I into Spatz? :>

#48 to #22 - anon (10/12/2015) [-]

thats a pic from the air space museum in ottawa

#15 - anon (10/12/2015) [-]

Actually had more than just two 20mm cannon, can't remember if war thunder's version having 30mm cannon is accurate or not but it is very clearly 4 cannons mounted in the nose of the Shinden in those pictures. :>

#17 to #15 - pkpg (10/12/2015) [-]

Same person now, just made an account. Definitely had four 30mm cannon.

#24 to #17 - thecraftedmine [OP](10/12/2015) [-]

just checked. the original prototype had 2 20's, the later had four 30's

#41 to #24 - cptsweatpants (10/12/2015) [-]

Where in the world did you ever see that. Twin 20mm was never even considered an option on this plane, it was to be armed with 4x30mm ever since the beggining of the design. Only armament deviation the prototype had was a single 7.7mm machine gun, supposedly to allow the pilot to better trace his shots. Nevertheless this weapon was later removed.

#29 - leraar (10/12/2015) [-]

Could only think of the Sanka B

For the wonderers: www.imdb.com/title/tt1056437/

#54 - KEpToK (10/12/2015) [-]

hey OP, have you heard about the FV3805 restoration project? This tank is apparently one of a kind and it's being restored as we speak with the support of a few youtubers.

#50 - darksideofthebeast (10/12/2015) [-]

P-38, for if you wanna **** up your enemy while going insanely fast.

#40 - cptsweatpants (10/12/2015) [-]

Where the hell are you getting this info from man, half of it is wrong. It was to be armed with 4x30mm cannons, it was an all metal plane same as anything else of that era, where the **** did you hear it was wooden, it's top speed was ESTIMATED at around 750kph but at an altitude of nearly 8000m but never tested, same as for the rest of your supposed flight charasteristics. The aircraft did fly but only a couple slow speed, low risk test flights around the airfield due to never resolved problems with the propeller drive shaft. Another fun fact to note is that rear position of the engine was due to the fact that it was to be fitted with a gas turbine or later on a jet engine, both of which were not yet sufficiently developed by Japan. Hence the the propeller driven version was put forward as a stopgap measure.

What you wrote up there is mostly complete ******** , check your facts.

#57 to #40 - kraussbrs (10/13/2015) [-]

Not all ww2 planes were all metal,for example the la-5 ot the dehaviland mosquito

#58 to #57 - cptsweatpants (10/13/2015) [-]

And I never said all were, what I said that an all metal fuselage was the standard design for the end of the war planes. By 45 even the Mosquitos were deemed obsolete as jet technology took to the skies and for their succesors the option of wooden construcions was never even considered. Same as the japs never even considered it for the J7W1.

#59 to #58 - kraussbrs (10/13/2015) [-]

Well the horten 229 was a wooden jet

#60 to #59 - cptsweatpants (10/13/2015) [-]

Oh they'd very much like to make it out of metal, but they ran out.

#61 to #60 - kraussbrs (10/13/2015) [-]

yeah,also sorry if i said stupid crap,but you were right abut it being of metal and having 30 mm cannons
also there was a jet version planned,but was it ever made?

#62 to #61 - cptsweatpants (10/13/2015) [-]

Nope, only in concepts. They never managed to finish the engine they needed. Only one they had access to was the one they were putting on the Kikka and that didn't have enough power.