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theoldfritz (11/25/2015) [-] become a deserter
you dont go to the army
and the army is also thankful becouse a fag like you inst wasting supplies
you dont go to the army
and the army is also thankful becouse a fag like you inst wasting supplies
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theoldfritz (11/25/2015) [-] you know what
scrap >>#83,
you should go to the army
learn to be responcible, learn to make you bed, get a haircut, be of some use
Cadet get collegue education, for free in most countries, but you gotta pay if you fail or quit
also, you wouldnt get drafted, no experience and underaged, unless you are in turkey
scrap >>#83,
you should go to the army
learn to be responcible, learn to make you bed, get a haircut, be of some use
Cadet get collegue education, for free in most countries, but you gotta pay if you fail or quit
also, you wouldnt get drafted, no experience and underaged, unless you are in turkey
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theoldfritz (11/25/2015) [-] i dont really care about peoples profile pics
if i would, than 50% would be weaboos and i a 60y old man
i just tought that you are afraid of going to the army, thinking that you would go to war
if i would, than 50% would be weaboos and i a 60y old man
i just tought that you are afraid of going to the army, thinking that you would go to war
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courageexplains (11/25/2015) [-] nuclear apocalypse, all because a jet is shot down. I love you all. goodbye.
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supersixfourr (11/25/2015) [-] How do you think WWI started?
June 28, 1914 - Gavrilo Princip assassinates Franz Ferdinand. July 28, 1914 - Austria-Hungary declares war on Serbia. August 2, 1914 - Ottoman Empire (Turkey) and Germany sign a secret treaty of alliance. August 3, 1914 - Germany declares war on France.Nov 5, 2014
June 28, 1914 - Gavrilo Princip assassinates Franz Ferdinand. July 28, 1914 - Austria-Hungary declares war on Serbia. August 2, 1914 - Ottoman Empire (Turkey) and Germany sign a secret treaty of alliance. August 3, 1914 - Germany declares war on France.Nov 5, 2014
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hawaiianpizza (11/25/2015) [-] I feel it to man, not sure when it will happen. But something is gonna happen. I just hope that it aint anything major but if it is, well, lets just hope were still standing at the end of it.
Peace out man.
Peace out man.
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trojanmannn ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-] this is going to sound terrible but if my stress gets to me sometimes i hope for a large stalemate between larger powers or something of that sort, something to keep peoples attention for a very long time so that everything stressful in my life can be thrown away. Never really told anyone that but, there you go
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hawaiianpizza (11/25/2015) [-] **hawaiianpizza used "*roll picture*"**
**hawaiianpizza rolled image**
Not gonna lie my friend but I also feel that way sometimes. Like if there was a sudden conflict or something then all my stress and worries would be blown away and to be honest. It would be kinda relaxing at first.
So you are not alone mate
**hawaiianpizza rolled image**
Not gonna lie my friend but I also feel that way sometimes. Like if there was a sudden conflict or something then all my stress and worries would be blown away and to be honest. It would be kinda relaxing at first.
So you are not alone mate
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cingletwo (11/25/2015) [-] The way it's looking, ******** murrica will back Turkey though... wtf is wrong with my country
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anon (11/25/2015) [-]
i guarantee you that if we do agree to back turkey, the US government will not be in power much longer. "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security"
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komandantmirkoo (11/25/2015) [-] nah son. obama is just the latest president to continue this work.
the US has been destabilizing the middle east by funding radicals for like 20-30 years now.
it's kinda unfair to the american people though. people hate your guts around the globe because your government does this **** all the ******* time.
kinda feel bad for you guise
the US has been destabilizing the middle east by funding radicals for like 20-30 years now.
it's kinda unfair to the american people though. people hate your guts around the globe because your government does this **** all the ******* time.
kinda feel bad for you guise
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aranthusick (11/25/2015) [-]
Why do you think that is though?
Is it just defending Israel? Because stable and strong arab nations would be a big problem for it. Or is there another reason. You would think that a stable middle east would be beneficial for all, you know, less people dying to terrorist attacks and so on.
Is it just defending Israel? Because stable and strong arab nations would be a big problem for it. Or is there another reason. You would think that a stable middle east would be beneficial for all, you know, less people dying to terrorist attacks and so on.
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cyberviking ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-] Honestly, I think Obama isn't as bad. It could have been MUCH worse. He didn't really change much but certainly didn't **** us over as much as other presidents. After all, aren't all politicians just great liars whom' were put in powerful positions.
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travishein (11/25/2015) [-] The US won't be "backing" Turkey. They are trying to squash this thing before it turns into the **** storm we all know it will become. If Russia decides to trounce Turkey, the US won't intervene. We are playing damage control right now.
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anon (11/25/2015) [-] Video by russia today
How the **** do you know If it's right or wrong??
I'm with neither side, but really you can't say this vid is 100% accurate, after all this is how the media nowadays work
How the **** do you know If it's right or wrong??
I'm with neither side, but really you can't say this vid is 100% accurate, after all this is how the media nowadays work
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drpenguinz (11/25/2015) [-] the map on which you can see the pilot crossed turkish borders was released by turkey.
on the very same map you can see that they cant have been longer in turkey than 10-15 seconds (according to a german pilot).
turkey obvioulsly lied there. how did they give 10 warnings in these 10 seconds?
it propably happened that way:
they werent really sure whether he crossed the border or not, so they gave warnings
at some point they shot
after shooting him down they looked at the route he flew
they realized "oh he actually crossed the border, better feed that **** to the news before anyone can say anythin"
they didnt realize how obvious it was that they are lying.
according to a german news site, the pilot was shot while in syrian territory either way 10 secs is way less time than you need to realize he crossed the borders and shoot
i personally dislike putin and russias politics in general. but turkey is some evil ******** . in this case im definitely on russias side.
on the very same map you can see that they cant have been longer in turkey than 10-15 seconds (according to a german pilot).
turkey obvioulsly lied there. how did they give 10 warnings in these 10 seconds?
it propably happened that way:
they werent really sure whether he crossed the border or not, so they gave warnings
at some point they shot
after shooting him down they looked at the route he flew
they realized "oh he actually crossed the border, better feed that **** to the news before anyone can say anythin"
they didnt realize how obvious it was that they are lying.
according to a german news site, the pilot was shot while in syrian territory either way 10 secs is way less time than you need to realize he crossed the borders and shoot
i personally dislike putin and russias politics in general. but turkey is some evil ******** . in this case im definitely on russias side.
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CrucifiedPuppy (11/25/2015) [-] This video just used a clip of a video from Russia Today, this video is not from the Russia Today YouTube channel, but rather from an (what appears to be) an independent critic.
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bloodyjackson (11/25/2015) [-] But I also can't trust the Russian media, or the American media. Can't trust anything, just have to watch everything and decide for yourself nowadays.
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adrenalinbbq (11/25/2015) [-]
It's amazing how willingly sheeple will believe any video on youtube if it uses strong language and news footage.
Here's an easy question: If Turkey armed the rebels fighting against Assad, and is partnered with Isil, then why are those two fighting?
Here's another: If Russia is targeting Isil, why would they be so close to the border instead of futher south where the line of battle between Assad and Isil is?
Here's another: If Russia is actively targeting Isil almost exclusively (an enemy of the rebels), why did the rebels immediately shoot the pilot as he parachuted down?
Here's a question I don't know the answer to: Who and where the **** is it said that Turkey warned Russia to stop bombing Isil?!
And just a last tidbit. Russia has ALWAYS pushed boarders with their planes since the cold war to test response times. They're getting more aggressive with it, and apparently they didn't think Turkey would actually respond sensibly from a (FIFTH!!!!!!!) airspace incursion from an unknown Russian HPA.
Here's an easy question: If Turkey armed the rebels fighting against Assad, and is partnered with Isil, then why are those two fighting?
Here's another: If Russia is targeting Isil, why would they be so close to the border instead of futher south where the line of battle between Assad and Isil is?
Here's another: If Russia is actively targeting Isil almost exclusively (an enemy of the rebels), why did the rebels immediately shoot the pilot as he parachuted down?
Here's a question I don't know the answer to: Who and where the **** is it said that Turkey warned Russia to stop bombing Isil?!
And just a last tidbit. Russia has ALWAYS pushed boarders with their planes since the cold war to test response times. They're getting more aggressive with it, and apparently they didn't think Turkey would actually respond sensibly from a (FIFTH!!!!!!!) airspace incursion from an unknown Russian HPA.
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selongb (11/25/2015) [-] Okay, ISIS deserves to get ****** by a million dragon dildos, but Assad is in no way a good guy in this. He gassed his own damn people.
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wilhelmwhiskey (11/25/2015) [-]
that`s not correct, it was never proven that it was him. investigations found that it could have been anyone doing this
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alimais (11/25/2015) [-] Not only did the UN investigation blame the so called rebels but even a former Belgian hostage said that it was them.
A rebel affiliate group was also caught with 2kg Sarin gas in Turkey, Adana
en.lmgtfy.com/?q=syria+rebels+sarin+gas
en.lmgtfy.com/?q=syria+rebels+christian+massacre
A rebel affiliate group was also caught with 2kg Sarin gas in Turkey, Adana
en.lmgtfy.com/?q=syria+rebels+sarin+gas
en.lmgtfy.com/?q=syria+rebels+christian+massacre
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nanglo ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-] No. No. Wrong. Turkey has little to no advantage whatsoever to support ISIS. Turkey just doesn't side with El-Assad's forces unlike Russia does.
HOWEVER, the thing is that currently in Syria, there are about a dozen of different factions fighting each others, and behind those, various powers supporting them:
ISIS probably supported by an emirate or two , Assad's forces supported by Putin , Syrian moderate rebels and the Syrian Islamic Front NATO and neighbouring countries like Egypt or Jordan definitely supported either of these groups , Yezidi militias, Kurds & Turkmens Turkophonic minority in Syria, supported by Turkey fighting each other while both under the menace of ISIS etc...
The problem is, Putin is allied to Assad, so Russia just sticks to bombing whoever's not representing Syria's legitimate troops. Including the turkmen milishias. And THAT'S where Ankara is pouting against Moscow since the beginning of Russia's open involvement in the war. Because weakening the turkmens rhymes with giving the Kurds an advantage, and the Kurd minority claims independence of the Kurdistan, which includes a decent part of Turkey, and Ankara sure doesn't want that.
Now, official Turkish reports claim that the plain was roaming inside of Turkish territory and that they gave multiple warnings to the Russian aircraft before striking it down, which Russia denies entirely.
We'll never get the clear end of the story, but either cases. Don't blindly side with Putin because eh is a pretty cool guy, kills ISIS and doesnt afraid of anything. The political back story is way more complicated than that.
HOWEVER, the thing is that currently in Syria, there are about a dozen of different factions fighting each others, and behind those, various powers supporting them:
ISIS probably supported by an emirate or two , Assad's forces supported by Putin , Syrian moderate rebels and the Syrian Islamic Front NATO and neighbouring countries like Egypt or Jordan definitely supported either of these groups , Yezidi militias, Kurds & Turkmens Turkophonic minority in Syria, supported by Turkey fighting each other while both under the menace of ISIS etc...
The problem is, Putin is allied to Assad, so Russia just sticks to bombing whoever's not representing Syria's legitimate troops. Including the turkmen milishias. And THAT'S where Ankara is pouting against Moscow since the beginning of Russia's open involvement in the war. Because weakening the turkmens rhymes with giving the Kurds an advantage, and the Kurd minority claims independence of the Kurdistan, which includes a decent part of Turkey, and Ankara sure doesn't want that.
Now, official Turkish reports claim that the plain was roaming inside of Turkish territory and that they gave multiple warnings to the Russian aircraft before striking it down, which Russia denies entirely.
We'll never get the clear end of the story, but either cases. Don't blindly side with Putin because eh is a pretty cool guy, kills ISIS and doesnt afraid of anything. The political back story is way more complicated than that.
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upunkpunk (11/25/2015) [-] >Turkey has little to no advantage whatsoever to support ISIS.
Get the **** outta here.
1. Turkey gets cheap oil from ISIS and in fact Edogan's son-in-law was just appointed Minister of Energy and Natural Resources. This involves oil.
2. ISIS attacks Kurds>PKK attacks Turkey for supporting them>PKK conflict reignited>Erdogan says he is fighting terrorism (PKK) and gets more votes. Which is exactly what we saw before the snap elections in November.
3 ISIS destabilizes Syria so Sultan Erdogan can get his "safe zone" (annexation) off the Euphrates to Aleppo. He is now saying Euphrates to the Mediterranean actually.
>ISIS probably supported by an emirate or two
ISIS is supported mainly by Turkey, Saudi Arabia (who spreads this Wahhabism), and Qatar. They also support the "moderate" rebels
>Assad's forces supported by Putin
Assad is supported by Putin only these past few months, he's survived 4 years without Russian help. If people were truly against him he would not have lasted this long.
>Yezidi militias, Kurds & Turkmens, Turkophonic minority in Syria, supported by Turkey fighting each other while both under the menace of ISIS etc...
The Turkmen are not moderates and work alongside the likes of Al-Nusra (Al-Queda) and Ahrar ash-Sham which are Islamic extremists and exert a lot of control over the other rebel groups. Including the Turkmen militias.
Turkmen and Kurds are not fighting each other. They are not even located in the same locations in large groups.
Plenty of Turkmen have joined ISIS and are mostly not even located where ISIS is.
Yezidis are Kurds and Kurds are the ones "under the menace of ISIS."
>Because weakening the turkmens rhymes with giving the Kurds an advantage, and the Kurd minority claims independence of the Kurdistan, which includes a decent part of Turkey, and Ankara sure doesn't want that.
No. Turkmen and Kurds aren't even fighting and are located at different locations. Kurds are not claiming an independent Kurdistan. Be it in Iraq, Syria, Iran, or Turkey...they are calling for greater autonomy within these nations not calling for their own country.
Stop spreading misinformation.
Get the **** outta here.
1. Turkey gets cheap oil from ISIS and in fact Edogan's son-in-law was just appointed Minister of Energy and Natural Resources. This involves oil.
2. ISIS attacks Kurds>PKK attacks Turkey for supporting them>PKK conflict reignited>Erdogan says he is fighting terrorism (PKK) and gets more votes. Which is exactly what we saw before the snap elections in November.
3 ISIS destabilizes Syria so Sultan Erdogan can get his "safe zone" (annexation) off the Euphrates to Aleppo. He is now saying Euphrates to the Mediterranean actually.
>ISIS probably supported by an emirate or two
ISIS is supported mainly by Turkey, Saudi Arabia (who spreads this Wahhabism), and Qatar. They also support the "moderate" rebels
>Assad's forces supported by Putin
Assad is supported by Putin only these past few months, he's survived 4 years without Russian help. If people were truly against him he would not have lasted this long.
>Yezidi militias, Kurds & Turkmens, Turkophonic minority in Syria, supported by Turkey fighting each other while both under the menace of ISIS etc...
The Turkmen are not moderates and work alongside the likes of Al-Nusra (Al-Queda) and Ahrar ash-Sham which are Islamic extremists and exert a lot of control over the other rebel groups. Including the Turkmen militias.
Turkmen and Kurds are not fighting each other. They are not even located in the same locations in large groups.
Plenty of Turkmen have joined ISIS and are mostly not even located where ISIS is.
Yezidis are Kurds and Kurds are the ones "under the menace of ISIS."
>Because weakening the turkmens rhymes with giving the Kurds an advantage, and the Kurd minority claims independence of the Kurdistan, which includes a decent part of Turkey, and Ankara sure doesn't want that.
No. Turkmen and Kurds aren't even fighting and are located at different locations. Kurds are not claiming an independent Kurdistan. Be it in Iraq, Syria, Iran, or Turkey...they are calling for greater autonomy within these nations not calling for their own country.
Stop spreading misinformation.
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goobyman (11/25/2015) [-] ah yes, Russia today, a quality trustworthy news source when it comes to news about russia.
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greyhoundfd (11/25/2015) [-] >Biased
"Oh, he disagrees with me! This goy is so biased!"
"Oh, he disagrees with me! This goy is so biased!"
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garymuthafuknoak (11/25/2015) [-] Just because it is "Russian media" doesn't make it any less reputable as American media. Speaking of which, you have no idea what you are talking about when this guy has nothing to do with RT.
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loopzoop (11/25/2015) [-] I live in Turkey right now
If anything happens I'm getting the **** out of here asap, i don't even like it here.
If anything happens I'm getting the **** out of here asap, i don't even like it here.
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theoldfritz (11/25/2015) [-] >WW3
France declares war on turky
Muslims start a ********* in europe
Germany stays a cuck
bavaria declares independance
East germany starts a *********
merkel gets removed
ukraine and russians stop fighting
We remove kebab in europe
we remoce kebab in kebabia
greece gets istanbul, gets out of dept crisis
form cilicia, form kurdistan
cyprus united again
Nato falls apart
UN looses its influence
EU falls apart
Homeland defended
France declares war on turky
Muslims start a ********* in europe
Germany stays a cuck
bavaria declares independance
East germany starts a *********
merkel gets removed
ukraine and russians stop fighting
We remove kebab in europe
we remoce kebab in kebabia
greece gets istanbul, gets out of dept crisis
form cilicia, form kurdistan
cyprus united again
Nato falls apart
UN looses its influence
EU falls apart
Homeland defended
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barakakaka ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-] This brought a tear to my eye. Thanks random stranger on the internet. May we remove Kebab together someday.
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banehunter (11/25/2015) [-] As far I understand it while officially the turkish government says it shot down the jet for violating airspace, the jet was coming back after a bombing raid on ethnically turkish Syrian rebels (read Russian separatists in Ukraine, except turkish separatists in Syria), now this bombing run resulted in 30 turkish civilian injuries and 8 deaths. So I think it can suffice to say that turkey shot down the jet in retaliation. Which understandably was a bad ******* idea. So now we wait and see how putin reacts and whether turkey will continue to support the separatists. Pic unrelated
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Ripper (11/25/2015) [-] Turkey said stop bomming because they werent bomming ISIS but rebels. at that place there is no Isis. this is really not the correct information.
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TurkDragon (11/25/2015) [-] Turkey is atempting to border and secure its citizens from outside threat.. i.e. Kurds.
Not saying the system is perfect
everyone here knows its currupt as **** ...
but youd have to be an ignorant asshole to not want to see why a goverment tries so hard to protect its people...
no one knew the Kurds until this whole ISIS **** started happening...
Coincidence?
ISIS wasn't arround until after Iraq incidents...
Coincidence?
America bombed these contries for "justice" or oil
Coincidence?
for ***** sake don't be sheep... if your going to debate look at all the facts...
also times change and at the moment the "rebels" as potrayed in American news isnt just ******* Kurds... its a mix of citizens from the area including turks and syrians...
as an American born in NYC and raised in NJ, I spent years studying my herritage I never got to live. Now Im in Turkey and I finally see why so many people around the world idolize America...
**** , You dense ************ ...
I spent 14 years learning The Political Stance of Turkey, The Social Culture of Turkey, The Peoples Perspectives on Politics... now because of an insident that took place and American Media potraying to benefit their pockets from their redneck asshole and ignit portion of citizens, unthoughtful herd of idiots think they know what the **** is going on...
**** it ... rant done
> awaiting ********* ...
Not saying the system is perfect
everyone here knows its currupt as **** ...
but youd have to be an ignorant asshole to not want to see why a goverment tries so hard to protect its people...
no one knew the Kurds until this whole ISIS **** started happening...
Coincidence?
ISIS wasn't arround until after Iraq incidents...
Coincidence?
America bombed these contries for "justice" or oil
Coincidence?
for ***** sake don't be sheep... if your going to debate look at all the facts...
also times change and at the moment the "rebels" as potrayed in American news isnt just ******* Kurds... its a mix of citizens from the area including turks and syrians...
as an American born in NYC and raised in NJ, I spent years studying my herritage I never got to live. Now Im in Turkey and I finally see why so many people around the world idolize America...
**** , You dense ************ ...
I spent 14 years learning The Political Stance of Turkey, The Social Culture of Turkey, The Peoples Perspectives on Politics... now because of an insident that took place and American Media potraying to benefit their pockets from their redneck asshole and ignit portion of citizens, unthoughtful herd of idiots think they know what the **** is going on...
**** it ... rant done
> awaiting ********* ...
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hurzg (11/25/2015) [-] Turkey doesn't support ISIS but the rebels. ISIS soldiers trained in Turkey? Like really? Really? ****** hell...
In early October, Turkey and NATO protested against what they saw as Russia's deliberate violations of Turkish airspace. From October 3–15, five discussions between senior ranking officials from Turkey and Russia occurred concerning Turkish rules of engagement and Russian violations of Turkish airspace.
Why does everyone pick one side and defend it like they are the best thing that happened to world or something? Russia is backing Assad which is not good. So they also bombed kind of ethnic Turks in Syria who are not ISIS while violating air space. I'm not saying it is justified to shoot down the plane but I understand.
And the guy is so ******* biased It's ridiculous. But it's fine as long as the guy says what you wanted to hear.
In early October, Turkey and NATO protested against what they saw as Russia's deliberate violations of Turkish airspace. From October 3–15, five discussions between senior ranking officials from Turkey and Russia occurred concerning Turkish rules of engagement and Russian violations of Turkish airspace.
Why does everyone pick one side and defend it like they are the best thing that happened to world or something? Russia is backing Assad which is not good. So they also bombed kind of ethnic Turks in Syria who are not ISIS while violating air space. I'm not saying it is justified to shoot down the plane but I understand.
And the guy is so ******* biased It's ridiculous. But it's fine as long as the guy says what you wanted to hear.
