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sniffythebird (12/20/2015) [-] 
All these little special snowflakes thinking they're above the law...
Is it so goddamn hard to give show the cop your drivers licence and insurance papers?
Is it so goddamn hard to give show the cop your drivers licence and insurance papers?
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deepterror ONLINE (12/21/2015) [-]
It is a violation of the constitution to force compliance of an illegal command onto a citizen. If rights are never exercised, you lose them. These officers are willingly violating their oath to the law.
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sniffythebird (12/21/2015) [-] >Asking for license and proof of insurance when they got pulled over for speeding
>Illegal comman
>Illegal comman
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deepterror ONLINE (12/21/2015) [-] Re-read my comment.
Asking for those documents when pulling someone over for speeding is a legal command.
Asking for those documents at a spot check are illegal 90% of the time because spot checks themselves are illegal 90% of the time.
There are very specific rules as to how, where, when, and why a spot check can be done, and they are almost never done even close to protocol.
The police can simply not be allowed to pull over or stop any person and demand identification and compliance whenever and wherever they want. Unless they have reasonable suspicion of a crime, they have no lawful authority to stop and force identification.
The supreme court has ruled that non-compliance when no reasonable suspicion exists does not itself give warrant for reasonable suspicion.
It is a basic question. If you would like certain rights, you have to exercise them because there are always going to be people who want to take them away
Asking for those documents when pulling someone over for speeding is a legal command.
Asking for those documents at a spot check are illegal 90% of the time because spot checks themselves are illegal 90% of the time.
There are very specific rules as to how, where, when, and why a spot check can be done, and they are almost never done even close to protocol.
The police can simply not be allowed to pull over or stop any person and demand identification and compliance whenever and wherever they want. Unless they have reasonable suspicion of a crime, they have no lawful authority to stop and force identification.
The supreme court has ruled that non-compliance when no reasonable suspicion exists does not itself give warrant for reasonable suspicion.
It is a basic question. If you would like certain rights, you have to exercise them because there are always going to be people who want to take them away
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chitownbrownie (12/21/2015) [-] you give the cop what they ask for and they will go lighter on you
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sniffythebird (12/21/2015) [-] Several of these clips had the cop say the pulled them over for speeding, so in that case there's no need for a warrant.
But then we have the dude saying speeding isn't a crime.
But then we have the dude saying speeding isn't a crime.
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anon (12/21/2015) [-]
No its not a crime for him because he renounced his citizenship thinking that it would mean he wouldn't have to pay taxes and make him immune to the laws of the land. Seriously we should just deport these people's asses to international waters if they "not citizens of any country"
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ionlywhisper (12/21/2015) [-] Even here in liberal Canada, if a cop sees a bottle on your seat, he has all the rightful and lawful reason to search your vehicle. If you have weapon in your seat, he has all the rightful and lawful reason to search your vehicle.
