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Why I always put points in stealth

 

This is also why I've trained myself to never move until it says "Caution". If I'm hidden I'm safe. Period. Oh and I stream sometimes

@EDIT: By the gods, thanks for the thumbs, favorites and follows. I tend to twitch once a week but can easily change that to 5 times. I usually sit and talk to myself when I play regardless of who's watching, so if someone is bored enough to message me. I'll gladly stream for them!

www.twitch.tv/dndstone

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User avatar #152 - dstone [OP](11/25/2015) [+] (1 reply)
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This is what happened shortly thereafter!
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User avatar #206 - dstone [OP](11/26/2015) [-]
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#50 - xoyv (11/25/2015) [-]
>goes into vas
>head head head head head
"i'm gonna...."
>backspace backspace backspace
"nope"
#222 to #50 - grubsnerad (12/06/2015) [-]
The vulnerable spot on Deathclaws is the belly.
User avatar #143 to #50 - neokun (11/25/2015) [-]
I do that sometimes just to gauge whether its worth it or not.
User avatar #15 - thegreatpapyrus ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
OTHER THAN DOGMEAT, ARE THE OTHER COMPANIONS UNKILLABLE?
User avatar #160 to #15 - thegreenbutton (11/25/2015) [-]
I think they're immortal until their quest is complete because essential is removed.
User avatar #16 to #15 - Doomonyou ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
All companions in FO4 are immortal.
User avatar #18 to #16 - Berzerkerwar (11/25/2015) [-]
Except Hancock if he is't with you. I found out the hard way he's only immortal while your companion. While he's in a settlement he can be killed
User avatar #36 to #18 - mikli ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
All companions are mortal if they aren't your companion
#128 to #36 - instalation (11/25/2015) [-]
This isn't true. I tried killing this lying piece of **** , but she didn't die. She just kind of looked at me and kept shooting.
#220 to #128 - anon (12/01/2015) [-]
I don't fully understand it but Piper is supposed to be immortal but has a death dialogue, "Blue..."
User avatar #221 to #220 - instalation (12/01/2015) [-]
"Blue..."

"You really ****** up this time."
#212 to #128 - anon (11/26/2015) [-]
Why is she a lying piece of **** ?
User avatar #43 to #36 - protomanrulezz ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
Nah, Nick, Cait and Curie went down when the Synths attacked the castle and they were all K
User avatar #187 to #18 - wanicochil (11/25/2015) [-]
According to the wiki, Hancock is the only companion that isn't essential
#34 to #16 - gloriousthighs (11/25/2015) [-]
It can be annoying when immortal people go aggro. Like when I stole that key from the mayor's secretary and the entirety of Diamond city came at me for blood. Especially Nick inside Kellogg's house so I could not progress in the story. Had to just leave the city and come back later on when they had calmed down.
User avatar #158 to #16 - Deavas (11/25/2015) [-]
thats really ******
User avatar #169 to #158 - Doomonyou ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
Can always turn it off via console m8.
User avatar #201 to #169 - Deavas (11/26/2015) [-]
cant if on a console
User avatar #202 to #201 - Doomonyou ONLINE (11/26/2015) [-]
sucks to suck then
User avatar #23 to #16 - suursaadik (11/25/2015) [-]
Or it you do story based missions where you have to kill 1 of the factions, e.g. danse from brotherhood, deacon from railroad, x6-88 from institute.
User avatar #65 to #23 - lenytunes (11/25/2015) [-]
******* spoil alert that **** damnit...
User avatar #207 to #65 - suursaadik (11/26/2015) [-]
so in your mind you thought that if you go with the institute and kill everyone from brotherhood and danse wont be one of the ppl u have to kill? Or if you go with BoS you magically can leave x6-88 and deacon alive, like they will just stand there watching while you murder their friends. GL with that. Youll have to kill danse anyway if u go with BoS cause hes a synth, or u can keep him if you have high enough charisma, but he will be kicked out of BoS anyway
User avatar #79 to #23 - derpwolf ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
Deacon showed up at Sanctuary pretty early in my game, hostile, and started to attack me. I put him down because I had no idea who he was, and his body proceeded to warp into terrifying shapes for the rest of the game. He was also too heavy to move.
User avatar #145 to #79 - duthar ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
I don't recall what exactly you have to do, but he can be sent to assassinate you, possibly if the Railroad believes you're a threat. If it was super early in the game, it could have been a bug, that or you got up to evil pretty damn fast.
User avatar #146 to #145 - derpwolf ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
I think it was that he might have been a synth of Deacon, because I later found the real Deacon inside the Railroad.
User avatar #130 to #23 - nikkadawgg (11/25/2015) [-]
Gee, ******* thanks. Now i ******* know that i have to choose. You ******* cunt.
#66 to #23 - anon (11/25/2015) [-]
wait, there is someone named danse in BoS?
User avatar #19 - cronos ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
Some advice to anyone making a stealth build.
Night vision is **** . The perk isn't worth it. Stealth gameplay suffered greatly because of it. Everything is bright as **** .

Mistakes were made.
User avatar #126 to #19 - hairysmellyanus (11/25/2015) [-]
turn brightness up, duh
User avatar #181 to #19 - charizarddad (11/25/2015) [-]
night vision has always been useless in bethesda games iirc
User avatar #189 to #181 - cronos ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
Bruh...I was caught in the hype.
User avatar #57 to #19 - Thunderrr (11/25/2015) [-]
Someone will eventually make a mod, where the night vision from the perk is better.
User avatar #132 to #57 - envinite (11/25/2015) [-]
I hate it when third parties are required to fix the ********** of the original game.
#137 to #132 - anon (11/25/2015) [-]
But I love that they can.
User avatar #198 to #132 - yudodat ONLINE (11/26/2015) [-]
The perk itself is not that bad. I picked it up just so it wouldn't be so dark. For a stealth play though, it doesn't work.
User avatar #28 - zomaru ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
Jesus, I wish companions weren't essential because, **** , no one deserves to live after being wrekt that hard.
User avatar #30 to #28 - gittons (11/25/2015) [-]
how are companions essential?
you can go alone and there is a perk that increases armor, dmg and carry weight when alone.
User avatar #31 to #30 - zomaru ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
As in, they have the essential tag, meaning they can't die.
User avatar #32 to #31 - gittons (11/25/2015) [-]
ah
User avatar #117 to #28 - huntergriff ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
mods.
#118 - huntergriff ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
>be me
>playing fallout 4
>Power armor needs to be repaired
>had it dropped off at the pyrdwen while I go out looking for **** to repair it with
>Go to the town with the sinkhole
>checking out the place kill a couple of ghouls in the sinkhole cave itself
>come out of the cave and see a ******* alpha deathclaw roaming about
>pop a smoke flare on the ground for a vertibird
> ****** hears it and starts running at me
>I start running away
>mfw the bastard picks me up
#71 to #35 - scandalouszander (11/25/2015) [-]
love that pic
User avatar #87 to #71 - goddamnwizard ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
Does anyone know why they named him REO Speedwagon? Was it for a joke or was there an actual purpose? I mean, I know Tompetty was a joke, but why name your characters after American bands? I don't understand
#96 to #87 - anon (11/25/2015) [-]
Almost everyone in JJBA, besides the Joestars are named after famous (usually American or British) bands, musicians, or songs. It's a running and entirely intentional thing. Have you seriously not realized this?
User avatar #107 to #96 - goddamnwizard ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
Dio, Dire and Straizo, Esidisi, Santana... Methinks I should have caught on sooner.
#209 to #107 - anon (11/26/2015) [-]
Don't forget Wam, Abdul, Kakyoin, Polnareffe, Suzie Q, Lisa Lisa, Cars...
#104 to #87 - scandalouszander (11/25/2015) [-]
see once they get out of part 3 and into 4 which is whats is coming out next, EVERYTHING is bands.
jojo.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Stands
just scroll down
User avatar #210 to #104 - metacobalion (11/26/2015) [-]
**** they don't even try to hide it.
#61 - duskmane ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
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MFW Piper is kill.
User avatar #108 to #61 - dstone [OP](11/25/2015) [-]
lol yes
#138 to #61 - anon (11/25/2015) [-]
Pepsiman Gameplay and Commentary that mascot has his own game in japan
#1 - alfrsa (11/25/2015) [-]
Your play style seems fun. Where can I watch your streams?
User avatar #2 to #1 - dstone [OP](11/25/2015) [-]
Thanks! I twitch whenever I have someone who wants to watch. www.twitch.tv/dndstone
User avatar #75 to #2 - teratorn (11/25/2015) [-]
I followed,but how occasionally do you stream?
User avatar #58 to #2 - trollzoll ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
At first I thought you were Unknown Archive.
#7 to #2 - alfrsa (11/25/2015) [-]
Thanks! I've been a bit busy lately but I'll stop by your twitch tomorrow
User avatar #9 to #7 - dstone [OP](11/25/2015) [-]
Sweet, just let message me and I'll pop on (I have no life like that)
Jk, I'm on vacation.
User avatar #56 to #9 - ihaspotato (11/25/2015) [-]
You doing anything now? I'm bored to tears trying to get my computer up and running so i'd appreciate some entertainment
User avatar #91 to #56 - dstone [OP](11/25/2015) [-]
I'll start streaming in about an hour. It's 11:05 where I am
I'll start at 12:05
User avatar #92 to #91 - ihaspotato (11/25/2015) [-]
Fallout 4?
User avatar #93 to #92 - dstone [OP](11/25/2015) [-]
Fallout, Bloodborne, Soma, The last of us. Take your pick
User avatar #95 to #93 - ihaspotato (11/25/2015) [-]
I'd prefer Fallout 4
User avatar #98 to #95 - dstone [OP](11/25/2015) [-]
I'll get it set up
#10 to #9 - alfrsa (11/25/2015) [-]
Cool! What's your timezone? GMT here. Followed you on twitch, I'm bricksock
User avatar #11 to #10 - dstone [OP](11/25/2015) [-]
CST, thanks for following!
#3 to #2 - lollypopalopicus ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
Neat. I might check you out.

Stealth and persuasion. Some of my favourite go to's.
User avatar #4 to #3 - dstone [OP](11/25/2015) [-]
I steal but certainly not persuasion lol. I typically play stealth, lock pick, pistol, melee. As Cha, and Luk are my dump stats...I kinda regret that now as it means piper won't sex me.
User avatar #5 to #4 - dstone [OP](11/25/2015) [-]
*stealth....not steal...I'm black you see and my autocorrect knows this
#6 to #4 - lollypopalopicus ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
So, I haven't had the chance to get FO4 yet. Can you use unarmed effectively? What about duel wielding (gun or melee)?
#47 to #6 - sesshii (11/25/2015) [-]
You can ambush deathclaws for... much damage.
Let's say your Deathclaw Gauntlet does 100 damage.
With the ninja perk on lv. 3 you can deal 10 times the normal damage on melee weapons/unarmed on sneak attack.
If you have "better crits" perk on max, crits deals x3.5 times damage instead of the regular 2.0 modifier.
Your Sneak attack of 100 now becomes 100x10x3.5.
100 damage becomes at least 3500 damage.
And deathclaw gauntlet with all related perks will do more than 100 damage.
Insta-kill legendary deathclaws become a very real thing.
Only bad thing about unarmed is that you cannot use it while in Power armor, one of the reasons i went Melee instead of Unarmed.
#185 to #47 - lollypopalopicus ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
Hmmm... I'll look into that then when I get the game then. Thanks.

Hopefully mods will let me used unarmed in power armour eventually.
#208 to #185 - sesshii (11/26/2015) [-]
I just one-shotted a savage deathclaw with my super-sledge without the crit modifier after making that comment lol
User avatar #8 to #6 - dstone [OP](11/25/2015) [-]
I haven't seen any duel wielding, dunno if it's because I'm not that far or if it's because it doesn't exist. More likely that it doesn't exist as I'm almost certain Bethesda would've put that on the main serving try of hype right next to jetpack power armor.

You can unarmed effectively, you just have to stat and perk correctly. (As always) There are some great STR and END ways to ensure you can tank and quickly punish. Couple that with VATS and perks like reapers sprint and boom. WIth a single punch you hit every enemy in front of you (As long as their in range and yes even while in vats), You then use Vats to TP to another target, hit everyone with a single hit again (Also each hit can disarm your opponents so be prepared to snatch their **** )... I'm starting to ramble...

TL;DR Yes Unarmed is good, you just have to play smart. No duel wielding though, sorry mate
#13 to #8 - lollypopalopicus ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
Ah well. I wander if Bethesda will ever let unarmed be as godly as maxed unarmed in oblivion ever again.

Also you mentioning dump stats and rambling with Fallout reminded me of "lets rant or ramble over Fall Out New Vegas". Might not be interested, but it is a fairly long lets play of New Vegas, that actually had them roleplay as the character for comedy, with occasional breaks of the fourth wall. I think they dump-stated everything except intelligence and charisma and a bit of endurance. They couldn't fight for **** so the had to use explosives and use companions as body guards, up until they reached a high enough level to actually be useful in a fight.

Oddly enough, it had a good sense of character progression, going from and a terrified incompetent, to a numbed fighter in the wasteland, though done comically. It also had some interesting facts and thoughts about different things in the game. Like "why is it after centuries, almost no one has bothered to do any form of cleaning up even in populated areas, or even started just using indoor lighting in the mohave?". If I remember correctly, they briefly joined someone, just because they were the first people smart enough to turn the lights and the fans on.
User avatar #14 to #13 - dstone [OP](11/25/2015) [-]
That's kinda what I do. I like "being" my characters. Kinda why I talk to my companions and every now again I chat at who ever's watching, thus my whole, "Bethesda worked real hard to make this **** scary" line.
User avatar #24 to #14 - supahsayin (11/25/2015) [-]
Hey, someone who hasnt bought the game yet, do you think an explosives class is viable in FO4? In 3, I'd play on Very Hard and try to use speech, hacking terminals/sentries, and abusing traps to solve my problems before I went into combat. However, once **** hit the fan, I'd have 100 EXPL and four points into explosive damage to back me up. However, without minefield in place, I don't know if I'd want to pull it off.
User avatar #97 to #24 - dstone [OP](11/25/2015) [-]
I'm constantly selling various grenades, and mines due to non use. I think if you employed a decent amount of stealth that build would be excellent
#55 - dooddood (11/25/2015) [-]
I was just here and that deathclaw ripped off my character's arm and leg. I was perma-crippled, can't bandage, can't heal from doctors. I had to reload an older save. Feels bad man.
User avatar #62 to #55 - ramerez (11/25/2015) [-]
wait that can happen?
User avatar #63 to #62 - dooddood (11/25/2015) [-]
Pretty sure I got a glitch. I stimpaked before the deathclaw grabbed me. That might be the cause.
User avatar #214 to #63 - ramerez (11/26/2015) [-]
Ah right, cool.
User avatar #83 to #62 - fuzzyballs (11/25/2015) [-]
don't be an idiot
User avatar #215 to #83 - ramerez (11/26/2015) [-]
Wow okay rood.
User avatar #33 - warioteam (11/25/2015) [-]
alien isolation 2 is looking swell
#133 - newall ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
>Savage Deathclaw.

Oh how hard that must've been for you.
#171 - lolollo (11/25/2015) [-]
I remember that place.   
   
"Alright lets see, oh good a holotape."   
"Oh God, where is it? *growling on tape*"   
"Finally an interesting side miss-"   
*loud thump from upstairs*
I remember that place.

"Alright lets see, oh good a holotape."
"Oh God, where is it? *growling on tape*"
"Finally an interesting side miss-"
*loud thump from upstairs*
User avatar #168 - rageshaman ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
Well thats one way to make piper shut her face hole
#167 - outlandertom (11/25/2015) [-]
Zoinks, Piper! You're retarded!
User avatar #148 to #136 - arziben (11/25/2015) [-]
Kneecapper automatic makes survival almost too easy !
#74 - beroty ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
>using companions
User avatar #139 to #74 - lapsushominum ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
>Using Dogmeat and getting extra carry weight and damage reduction and he can carry stuff too
User avatar #166 to #74 - hitlerislord ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
>never doing companion missions
User avatar #192 to #166 - KBD (11/25/2015) [-]
>95% perma headshot in vats thanks to Macready
>A little bit of bonus exp per explore/charisma win thanks to Piperwaifu (A little useless in surv tbh)

can't wait to max out everyone and become mega wastelander with my pet dog
User avatar #81 to #74 - fuzzyballs (11/25/2015) [-]
>carrying your own crap
User avatar #88 to #81 - beroty ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
>being a lazy ******
User avatar #110 to #88 - fuzzyballs (11/25/2015) [-]
what
are you calling me lazy for picking up more than I can carry, and giving a portion to my companion?
well then I guess you're stupid for missing that extra 5 adhesive
User avatar #94 to #88 - darkdesu ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
>not bring based waifu with you and hearing her sweet irish brogue behind you.
#101 to #94 - beroty ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
HATE NEWSPAPERS
User avatar #113 to #94 - fruitsponchisg (11/25/2015) [-]
>not having Curie following you instead
User avatar #115 to #113 - floopdawhoop ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-]
This guy gets it
User avatar #149 - introduction (11/25/2015) [-]
I was about to go watch your stream and it buffers and loads and i hear you say "...dstone out" and it went offline, i dont remember a time where i was this disappointed, i feel like my parents.
User avatar #150 to #149 - dstone [OP](11/25/2015) [-]
>"I feel like my parents"
top kek.
Lol I'll be streaming again tomorrow for a much longer period of time!
User avatar #153 to #150 - testaburger (11/25/2015) [-]
pls mention when stream
User avatar #151 to #150 - introduction (11/25/2015) [-]
awesome ill be there
User avatar #22 - recoveryone (11/25/2015) [-]
Tried that stealth **** with dogmeat, realized I was in above my head, ****** off back to Pryrden, came back with Power Armor and Paladin Danse and massacred that giant mutated lizard. I've still lost quite a few sets of Power Armor frames to dumb **** though.
User avatar #48 to #22 - missoracle (11/25/2015) [-]
I glitched the deathclaw by running into the bathroom around the corner. For some reason he couldn't get in to attack me, so I just stayed in there and opened fire on the asshole while he tore MacCready apart since he was out in the open.
#73 - anon (11/25/2015) [-]
Since deathclaws cant go through doors you can easily cheese that one.
User avatar #109 to #73 - hydren (11/25/2015) [-]
The deathclaw can move through the big ass holes in the walls
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