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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#6 - bothemastaofall
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I can't... the beard commands me
#1 - alanflindt
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#5 to #1 - underporches
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Father Ted comment posted, swell with a nice cup of tea.
Father Ted comment posted, swell with a nice cup of tea.
#9 - raideoactivepilot
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Am i the only one here siding with Israel? They're like the only country in the region that's not a ass backwards ********. Rather there be only jews in that region than kebabs that just go around killing people and hating progress of any kind
User avatar #21 to #9 - commontroll
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Not alone. Honestly, people act like it's the Palestinian homeland and blah blah blah. But people didn't use the term Palestinian until the 60s. Until then the refugees in the area called themselves Jordanians, Egyptians, Syrians, etc.

I find it strange that the Jews can't have their ancestral home that has been the land of their people and religion for thousands of years, and that Muslims just have to have a piece of land the size of New Jersey even though they have more than a billion members of their faith and the entire Middle East along with places like Indonesia.

Hamas is seriously an evil group, and the "Palestinians" don't do anything to actually get rid of Hamas. Until then, they will continue to be caught in the crossfire of IDF and Hamas.
#33 to #21 - letrollface
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I was born in Palestine, my father was, my grand father was, his father was, his father was... this goes up to about a thousand and a half years ago. It's an occupation, and we have the right to resist. That is why Hamas is big here - it's all about resistance, they are our Brave Hearts. You know what they say, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
User avatar #39 to #33 - commontroll
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Yeah, I'm not going to take anybody who supports Hamas seriously. If you've publicly declared "We love death like Israel loves life" then you aren't good guys. Terrorism is using terror tactics to demoralize an enemy that you simply cannot defeat in actual war.

And look it up. Palestine is an invention. They call themselves Palestinians now because the Roman emperor who destroyed Israel renamed it Syria Paelestania, because that's how you spell Philistines in Latin, the arch enemies of Israel in history. But you aren't of Philistine heritage, they're from Crete. "Palestinians" today are Arab refugees who lived in what is now Israel, before though they were Jordanians, Egyptians, Syrians and Iranians. Your heritage is Arabic, not Crete. People only called themselves that in the 60's onward to paint themselves the image of a struggling nation being destroyed by Jews.

And for those who are from the West who think Israel is a big bad wolf trying to eradicate the Palestinians, they obviously don't know all the horrific things Hamas does in the Palestinian controlled territories.

Is IDF perfect? No, are they justified in their actions? Absolutely. Israel has been attacked time and time again, and every time they repel their attackers, and guess what, they gain more territory. It's a war. That's what happens in war when you lose. But Israel has tried time and time again to bring peace by giving back captured lands outside of Israel borders, only to be attacked again.

You say it's your home? Who built Jerusalem? Who created the walls of the city? Who came back and improved farming methods and water usage, brought industrial growth to the lands?

The Palestinian population is growing since Israel became a Jewish state. You can call it an occupation all you want, but it's part of war. If you want to say it's an occupation, the Israelis can say the same thing. You talk about 1500 years of history there, they've had 5000.
#30 to #21 - elaxx
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>inb4 dat nickname

I find it strange that so many people try to justify the land right of one group or another through history. You can't really use history for that in my opinion, since the world map through these thousands of years has been constantly changing, and wars are probably the biggest factor in all that. There were Jews on that piece of land millennia ago and, like you said, remained there for a very long time. Then wars and conquering and other different factors changed that, Muslims became the new dominance within the area. Then again, wars came, Britain overtook it and basically gave it to Israel. Then wars and wars again but Israel managed to remain as it is. So my point is, history is in my opinion irrelevant in this particular situation.

I agree with you, Hamas is technically an authoritative (terrorist in the past) organization and doesn't prove to be good for "Palestinians". Saying that Israel is "the good guy" is a generalization but plainly saying that they are the evil guys that keep terrorizing Palestinians is a generalization as well. I mean, come on. It's definitely not that simple. Every incident there is complicated. There were cases when Israel used excessive force, there were cases when the innocent deaths were mere incidents, there were cases when Hamas purposely used civilians and there were cases when civilians themselves purposely gathered within the area of anticipated missile strike (yes, even that happened). Saying that either those or these are "just" something is... just silly. It is considered to be most complicated conflict in the world, a political nightmare. At this point the best possible outcome would probably be if both sides tried to cooperate and reach some compromises even though it seems to be impossible. The two-state solution is still possible.
User avatar #40 to #30 - commontroll
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I'm glad you didn't discredit me because of my name. If only I could change it.

I agree. I only use the history part to point because Arabs love to say they've been there for thousands of years. But they were constantly fighting each other over it too, they didn't just claim the land for Allah and then say they were Palestinians.

It's war and Israel captured lands, and then gave away some of those lands in hope for peace. But people forget that Israel was formed because the Jews were almost eradicated in Europe. They needed their own homeland. So the way I look at it, of course they're going to defend the land that's supposed to be their only bastion.

The way I look at it, is how would things end if one side simply refused to fight any more. If Palestine laid down arms, they'd be pushed out of Israel and taken into the surrounding Arab nations. If Israel did it though, all the Arab nations around them and the Palestinians would kill every Jew they could while the Jews would have to scatter.

But yeah, unfortunately people can't even agree that Hamas is an evil organization these days thanks to their propaganda. It is a horribly complex situation, because both sides see the other as an occupying force they have to overcome. It doesn't help with the religious extremism of Hamas either.
User avatar #28 to #21 - indonesia
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even they're not alone, we can't help more than giving some medicine, donation, and pray.
User avatar #43 to #28 - commontroll
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Who's not alone? Sorry about the mention by the way.
User avatar #45 to #43 - indonesia
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**** I read it wrong.
don't worry, I was never here.
User avatar #11 to #9 - nywrestler
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No you are not.
#12 to #9 - anon id: 61dfb66c
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Is hating both not an option?
User avatar #14 to #9 - killerlily
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You must be American
#20 to #9 - letrollface
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I'm a Palestinian. I'm an independent middleware programmer; I create software tools (mainly Maya plug-ins) used by game development studios as well as independent artists. Some of my tools are used by Ready At Dawn, Arkane Studios, Naughty Dog, Microsoft, and Certain Affinity. While I do like kebab, I'd like to think I'm not retarded. This morning I woke up on news about tens of civilians bombarded by israeli planes, and the footage of mutilated children and women and men makes me really angry at people such as yourself who will unconditionally remain pro-israel regardless of what they do, because "they are defending themselves from muslim goat *******". I hope you will have the courage to view some of the footage, see the damage, the brutality, the injustice... and just so that I fully express myself, I have to say this: **** YOU!
User avatar #22 to #9 - tazze
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good goy, you keep thinking that
schnizel economic
User avatar #38 to #22 - schnizel
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lel
#36 to #9 - widar
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The thing is, Israel also has a huge problem with (religious) fundamentalism. Women are attacked (verbally or otherwise) if they don't adhere to the Jewish dresscode in cities where there are a lot of orthodox Jews. I can also sort of understand where the Palestinians are coming from. No, I don't think it's right that they're firing rockets at Israel that will likely hit civilians rather than military targets, but I understand the anger at the country that is oppressing them and retaliates with 100 times the force everytime something happens while also allowing and even encouraging settlers (who do that for religious reasons, since they want all of the "Holy Land") to de-facto annex more Palestinian territory and then defends those illegal settlements with military force.
#18 to #9 - inquisition
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>only country in the middle east not "a ass backwards ********"
>what is Saudi Arabia
>what is UAE
>what is Qatar
>what is Bahrain

Muslim hate seems to have convinced everyone that it's a good idea to put a group of white European Jews in the middle of an Islamic Arab region then give them unwavering US support and billions in military funding for "protection".

Some retarded snackbar who doesn't represent Palestine launches his firework-grade missiles at Tel Aviv then Israel, a state with a military as advanced as the US disproportionately responds and justifies it with "muh self defence".
User avatar #41 to #18 - commontroll
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That green is disappearing because Hamas and the surrounding nations keep attacking the Jewish territories and losing. The Jewish government isn't interested in the lands outside their ancestral land, and has time and time again given away land they capture when they go on the offense and drive back invaders.
#24 to #18 - anon id: 739d2b46
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Oh of course, Saudi, UAE and Qatar aren't corrupt and rife with political, religious and racial tension
User avatar #26 to #24 - inquisition
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>literally every country ever
#37 to #26 - anon id: 1980a4fb
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Not to such a degree. For an instance, religious and racial discrimination in Saudi Arabia is not just legal, it's institutionalized.
User avatar #23 to #9 - willindor
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There are days when I want to travel to Israel and put a chair on the border with Gaza and watch missiles fly like a tennis official.
User avatar #13 to #9 - theladystrangler
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I don't care about ********* either, but the U.S. shouldn't be shelling out money to Jews in a place they don't belong. Not only that but Jews need to stop acting like the victims and stop crying about "muh holocaust", when Netanyahu openly refers to Palestinians as sub-humans. The only reason Jews get support from the U.S. is because they control the media and lobby elections, other than that I don't give a ****/
User avatar #42 to #13 - commontroll
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Only reason they complain about the holocaust is because that's the only thing that can get them support. They were given that land because they were almost wiped out in Europe because they had no homeland any more. And unlike Gypsies, they wanted one.
User avatar #44 to #42 - theladystrangler
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True, but Jews pulled strings before the Holocaust to acquire Israel, in fact, Hitler main quarrel with Jews was that he believed that German-Jews had supported Germany's enemies because Britain had agreed to create Israel, a promise that would only be kept if Britain had won.
#46 to #42 - anon id: e612fc50
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No, they don't ever need to stop crying about the Holocaust or acting like victims because they historically are victims. Few ethnic groups have as valid as legitimate of a fear to act be on the defensive and to act towards self-determination. Your method of describing Jews is tinged with ire as though you resent them for being a stain in western historiography. It's dangerously Trumpian.


That said, land does not adapt to the people who once inhabited it and then bond with them. You may be able to drive by your ancestral home after it was foreclosed on or you opted to move out of it, but that doesn't give you a legal claim to it. The Israeli's have been showing a disturbing nationalist expansionist yearning that is out of the bounds of the terms of the charter which bestowed the parts of Israel to them that they acquired and is inimical to the objectives of moderate Zionism. Calling the Palestinian resistance of illegal occupation a fair war is demonstrably false and probably not motivated by sincere, dispassionate interest.
User avatar #47 to #46 - commontroll
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I feel like maybe that first paragraph is to someone else. That's what I was getting at as well. Jews have had a very hard life ever since they first lost Israel. As for the second one, a lot of that is due to needing to have Israel a certain size for security reasons due to modern technology. There's definitely a lot of nationalism and the religious aspect definitely makes it more complicated on both sides due to zealotry, but ultimately Israel is dealing with an expanding population and expanding threats, one of the best defenses against missiles and attacks is space.
User avatar #15 to #9 - snowshark
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Hamas missiles are highly inaccurate, are basically useless against Israeli defences, and could blow up a car at best. Israeli missiles are US made, are bigger than you, and are capable of blowing up entire houses, if not streets.

Israeli missile strikes have had a civilian fatality ration of 77%. They recently bombed a hospital, killing only civilians as there were no Hamas present. They opened fire on children playing on the beach. Israelis gather on the hills along the border of the Gaza strip and cheer and jest as the missiles rain down on palestine. They go around kiling people and though they aren't anti-progress they sure ain't progressives.

Israel have occupied palestinian territory now for 48 years and kill indiscriminately. You may not be the only one siding with Israel but I tell you what I don't think I'll find myself agreeing with you any time soon.
User avatar #16 to #15 - wellimnotsure
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are you implying muslims are people?
User avatar #17 to #9 - wthree
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>Israel
>Not an assbackwards ********.

kek
User avatar #7 - robinwilliamson
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But according to the media we're not supposed to criticize Israel
#27 - dehumanizer
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Daily reminder!
#32 to #27 - anon id: 86d8be2c
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muh capitalist
muh freedom
#31 to #27 - beerterror
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Well, that's true.
User avatar #35 - niggernazi
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>jews and ************ killing eachother

gee, its almost like a should care the slightest
#34 - anon id: 4994a812
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**anonymous rolled image** yes this pleases the slave driver
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