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#1 - pussypunchpiss (07/21/2014) [-]
"Bart sells his soul"   
Season 7 episode 4
"Bart sells his soul"
Season 7 episode 4

User avatar #3 to #1 - hkd (07/21/2014) [-]
Second time I've seen someone do this today now. This **** is kind of creepy
User avatar #60 to #3 - maxismahname (07/21/2014) [-]
This happens on every simpsons content, ya silly goose
User avatar #6 to #1 - Sacrifice (07/21/2014) [-]
Where's Underporches gone?
#7 to #6 - John Cena (07/21/2014) [-]
transcended this mortal plane, friend. But fear not. While the body is gone, underporches has become a movement, an ideal that lives in us all. It matters not who provides the sauce and gif. Just know that his work is being done all the same.
#8 to #7 - John Cena (07/21/2014) [-]
I still miss underporches.
User avatar #196 to #8 - pussypunchpiss (07/21/2014) [-]
Underporches is in all of us. He just happened to have taken control of my body and made me give up the source of the episode
User avatar #352 to #351 - pussypunchpiss (07/22/2014) [-]
give me back my body
#128 to #6 - John Cena (07/21/2014) [-]
He's still around, it's just that people have taken his job from him. He no longer has an identity. He has simply become an idea. So we'll forget him. Because he can take it. Because he's not a hero. He's a silent encyclopedia, a watchful episode guide. A Sauce Knight.
#37 to #1 - pointblankhits (07/21/2014) [-]
Why the **** did you make that your name?
User avatar #191 to #37 - pussypunchpiss (07/21/2014) [-]
I get that a lot and i'll answer it the same way as I did a thousand times

It's the three first words that came to mind that starts with a P
took me 3 seconds
User avatar #337 to #191 - pointblankhits (07/22/2014) [-]
Your therapist has a lot to answer for
User avatar #338 to #337 - pussypunchpiss (07/22/2014) [-]
My therapist committed suicide after talking to me for 15 minutes
#339 to #338 - pointblankhits (07/22/2014) [-]
You poor thing
#340 to #339 - pussypunchpiss (07/22/2014) [-]
haha im only joking, he didnt commit suicide

I killed him
#341 to #340 - pointblankhits (07/22/2014) [-]
Why'd you go do a thang like that?
User avatar #342 to #341 - pussypunchpiss (07/22/2014) [-]
because he was talking to me
User avatar #343 to #342 - pointblankhits (07/22/2014) [-]
Probably because the first thing that pop's into your head is punching pissing pussy's
User avatar #119 to #37 - siriusfakk (07/21/2014) [-]
Because hes a little kid just like 90 percent of FJ including you with your name too .
User avatar #336 to #119 - pointblankhits (07/22/2014) [-]
Name off my MMA gym in Ireland, look it up
User avatar #192 to #119 - pussypunchpiss (07/21/2014) [-]
nuh uh im seventeen years old
User avatar #194 to #192 - siriusfakk (07/21/2014) [-]
Eh.
#64 - arkanios (07/21/2014) [-]
MFW the comments are discussing religion
MFW the comments are discussing religion
#313 to #64 - thenightmarechild (07/21/2014) [-]
And all this time I thought it was a glitch
And all this time I thought it was a glitch
User avatar #298 to #64 - negerslaktarn (07/21/2014) [-]
man the new zelda for the wii u looks awsome
#94 - newvein (07/21/2014) [-]
I don't believe the existence of a traditional God/Goddess in the sense that this being is omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient. Perhaps there are powerful, evolved beings that are godlike in comparison to us. But who knows. I'm just sitting here, masturbating.
User avatar #96 to #94 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
"Only a sith deals in absolutes" is an absolute.
Obi-Wan was a sith all along.
User avatar #97 to #96 - newvein (07/21/2014) [-]
Absolutely it is!
User avatar #45 - soule (07/21/2014) [-]
Pretty sure I exist...
User avatar #52 to #45 - sociocat (07/21/2014) [-]
but if eyes arnt real how can mirrors be real?
User avatar #139 to #45 - xgrandmoffx (07/21/2014) [-]
I think therefore I am.
I know therefore other things are.
User avatar #149 to #45 - grandlordchicken (07/21/2014) [-]
Nope, your a figment of my diseased mind, sorry about that.
#319 to #45 - John Cena (07/21/2014) [-]
matter with consciousness
#46 to #45 - John Cena (07/21/2014) [-]
And therefore you do.
#48 to #46 - soule (07/21/2014) [-]
[existential awareness intensifies]
User avatar #240 to #46 - gonzoen (07/21/2014) [-]
Masterful explanation of the concept of "cogito ergo sum", my dear anon.
*Points with pipe*
#110 to #43 - grandlordchicken (07/21/2014) [-]
Politics inevitable gets brought up too.
#158 to #110 - grandlordchicken (07/21/2014) [-]
Then fandoms get brought up.
#162 to #158 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
Conservative Jesus is best savior.
Conservative Jesus is best savior.
#177 to #162 - grandlordchicken (07/21/2014) [-]
Neo liberal dragon ball Anarcho Quetzalcoatl is the only true savior
#179 to #177 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
I yield.
He truly is
#209 to #179 - grandlordchicken (07/21/2014) [-]
Welcome to the church of anti anarchy fascist neo libertarian guacamole super Mario Protestant Armstrong neo cyclone jet conservative witnesses of retraditional neo cyclone green vermin supreme liberal Scientology Muslim anabaptismist freedom elect socialist independant justice modern reform Sikhism workers.
#214 to #209 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
Praise him
#211 - haeckal (07/21/2014) [-]
You do know that most of the founders of the church lived lives of poverty and chose to be tortured to death rather than renounce their beliefs, right? That's some dedication to a get-rich-quick scam (sarcasm).

Although some religions, such as Scientology, probably were created as scams, it's foolish to say that holds true for all of them.
User avatar #238 to #211 - feelythefeel (07/21/2014) [-]
It isn't talking about founders of a religion as much as managers of religions that are already well established.
User avatar #241 to #211 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
The black priests in america who have megachurches, sell bottled "blessed water" and various DVDs of them blessing someone. Also having these "healing meetings" where they "cure cancer" and **** on stage, then asking people to donate money.

You know, the obvious scammers.
User avatar #326 to #241 - nigeltheoutlaw (07/21/2014) [-]
**** ****** , they're far from all black.
#324 to #211 - tealcanaan (07/21/2014) [-]
St. Peter was based.
#316 - baitdoesnttalkback (07/21/2014) [-]
except later in the episode it was proven the souls were real. checkmate atheists. your attempts at trolling fail
User avatar #321 to #316 - womo (07/21/2014) [-]
I'm an Atheist but I believe in souls.
#322 to #321 - baitdoesnttalkback (07/21/2014) [-]
you're agnostic
#345 to #322 - testaburger (07/22/2014) [-]
Souls =/= god
#347 to #345 - baitdoesnttalkback (07/22/2014) [-]
never said it did
User avatar #349 to #347 - testaburger (07/22/2014) [-]
So why did you call the man agnostic?
User avatar #323 to #322 - womo (07/21/2014) [-]
I don't think that a God can be proven.
#332 to #323 - Orc (07/21/2014) [-]
He can't be proven or unproven.
User avatar #350 to #332 - testaburger (07/22/2014) [-]
If he, by definition, cannot be proven to exist, then he has no noticeable effect on our world, and as such, is utterly irrelevant.
#346 to #332 - baitdoesnttalkback (07/22/2014) [-]
yes he can. if god was like what up yall here i am you'd believe in him
#161 - trickytrickster (07/21/2014) [-]
Well everyone seems intent on letting everyone know their religious beliefs in the comments. I believe in God and I'm Catholic!
User avatar #164 to #161 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
Do you believe non-believers go to hell?
#170 to #164 - trickytrickster (07/21/2014) [-]
There is no salvation outside of the Church(Catholic church). But that doesn't mean that an atheist cannot pull from the church without knowing it. The Catholic church beliefs that it has the best way of getting to heaven( I mean otherwise why would you follow that religion). So an atheist can theoretically get to heaven, it just would be a lot harder than it would be for a Catholic. The Catholic church unlike a lot of churches, does not preach a knowledge of who is in hell, that is for God to decide. They don't even take an official stance on if Judas is in hell or not, and he straight up helped get Jesus killed and then killed himself.
User avatar #185 to #170 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
Again with the unusual answer....

WELP, alright.
Thanks for answering
#215 to #185 - trickytrickster (07/21/2014) [-]
That's not the unusual answer man, that's the correct answer. Whatever you have been fed/lied to about, that is the official church belief. We don't think baptists or lutherens or muslims or jews or hindus or whatever are automatically going to hell. No way, that would be stupid. You can reject God due to your own misunderstandings etc. It's still possible to get to heaven. If you fully understand God and everything he is and does and still reject him, then ya you will go to hell.

www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/what-no-salvation-outside-the-church-means
User avatar #218 to #215 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
I mean unusual as far as the christians I've talked to.
#224 to #218 - trickytrickster (07/21/2014) [-]
Gotcha. Well, not to knock on other Christians, but their religion is just a bastardization of Catholicism.
#183 to #164 - trickytrickster (07/21/2014) [-]
And it's a lot harder for an atheist because Catholics get the benefit of going to mass, being closer to God, receiving communion, getting their sins forgiven in reconcilliation. To understand that view, you have to look at it from the opinion that God is real. Getting into heaven isn't just about being a good person.
User avatar #169 to #161 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
What do you believe hell consists of? Eternal torture?

Do you believe god is omnipotent?

Do you believe god is omniscient?
#307 to #169 - John Cena (07/21/2014) [-]
nowhere in the bible is hell mentioned. The only thing that could possibly have sparked that origin was the place in the bible where the fiery Gehenna was mentioned, but the bible states that the serpent (Satan, devil) will be thrown into Gehenna for a thousand years
#309 to #307 - John Cena (07/21/2014) [-]
The bible says that the dead are conscious of nothing
#311 to #309 - John Cena (07/21/2014) [-]
which basically gets rid of the factor of hell since if you die your conscious of absolutely nothing
#174 to #169 - trickytrickster (07/21/2014) [-]
I cannot describe what hell is, nobody knows really. I would imagine that knowing you are seperated from God and knowing that it is 100% your fault would be bad enough as it is. Hell is an interesting thought. When I was younger and tossing around questions, I was thinking about what if reincarnation was real as well as Catholicism, and that every time you died and weren't good enough for heaven you got sent down to hell aka earth.

Of course I believe that God is omnipotent and omniscient, now get on with your could he make a stone so heavy not even he could lift it argument or wherever you are going with this. haha.
User avatar #182 to #174 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
Not quite the answer I was looking for.
Is hell an eternal punishment? (according to your beliefs)

I am going somewhere, but not there. Answer correctly, and you'll get to see
#184 to #182 - trickytrickster (07/21/2014) [-]
Yes it is eternal. Now get on with it. Haha. I have a feeling where this is going.
User avatar #195 to #184 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
Well I guess I can make the point regardless.

So!
We agree that our life on this planet determines how our afterlife turns out, yes?
#217 to #195 - trickytrickster (07/21/2014) [-]
Yes our life is the deciding factor.
User avatar #219 to #217 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
So, you can receive an infinite punishment for a finite crime, yes?
User avatar #228 to #222 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
I contend that an infinite punishment for a finite crime is immoral (and wrong).
Agree or disagree?


Also, what I was originally going for: Say hell is eternal torture, and all atheists go there, I would ask you if you think I deserved to be tortured for all eternity because I don't believe. The natural response would be no, but every christian I've asked this has refused to answer the question, because it means they think what their god is doing is wrong, and they disagree with it being right. They always dodge the hell out of the question, and I'm trying to see if it's a general thing.
#233 to #228 - trickytrickster (07/21/2014) [-]
Disagree. Which you obviously knew lol. Get to the point so whoever made this content doesn't murder both of us lol.
User avatar #235 to #233 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
That was my point. I don't think you could ever do something finite that deserves an infinite punishment.
An infinite punishment is (strangely enough) infinitely worse than a finite punishment, and the only thing that could make you deserve an infinite punishment, would be an infinite crime.

BUT, read the spoiler to see where I was originally going with this.
#246 to #235 - trickytrickster (07/21/2014) [-]
I read it don't worry. God is fully just and fully kind. So whatever judgement he decides is the right one. He did create the universe and all that. The think is, we teach that we choose hell, God does not. It is our own actions, or own decisions that bring us to hell. We turn to God and say no, I don't want to be a part of you, or belong to you. It's a difficult concept to agree with, and honestly I haven't read up enough on it to warrent the response you are looking for. When I try to read up on it, it's mainly just atheist blogs/forums spousing off the same thing. I try not to make comments on things I don't understand. When in doubt, I trust the Church. Also, the church doesn't claim to be 100% right. They could be wrong on some stuff. We do not know the fullness of truth, we are only human. I think too often people focus on these types of things, these smaller details, than focusing on the bigger picture. Like if the concept of hell is the major reason you don't believe in God, I think that is silly. There are a billion more reasons to believe in God, in my opinion, than the few things that get pounded over and over again and have for the last 2000 years.
User avatar #251 to #246 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
"So whatever judgement he decides is the right one."
Here's something I can work with
So, say god decides rape is a-okay from now on. Would that make it right?

" Like if the concept of hell is the major reason you don't believe in God"
Agreed. The proper reason to not believe in god is the lack of evidence.

"Ps You are chill. I like talking with you about this."
youtoo.png.
It's not often I get to casually talk to people about these things.
#258 to #251 - trickytrickster (07/21/2014) [-]
Your statement cannot be answered because God would never do that. God is all just and all right and all moral. He would not justify rape. It's just not possible. And don't go pulling that, but he is all powerful so he could technically do it thing, because that has been hashed out so many times you could easily find the answer for why that's wrong on the internet, and I could easily post the answers as well haha.

Eh I've found evidence throughout my life. I find evidence in the work I do in genetics/bacteria, I find evidence at mass and through the reason based things I read. I have lots of my own evidence for God. Of course nobody will ever have physical evidence of God aka look at this chart, here is God, because that's impossible. Also it would destroy the point of faith and the test of life if we knew for a fact God was there. Even religious people have dry spells in their faith.
User avatar #265 to #258 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
Humor me. Say he did, hypothetically.

" I find evidence in the work I do in genetics/bacteria"
Would you elaborate?

"it would destroy the point of faith and the test of life if we knew for a fact God was there."
But in "biblical times", god did all kinds of stuff that, today, would be indicative of a higher power. Magical plagues, killing of firstborns, creation of stone tablets, talking from a burning bush, etc. He proved his existence a bunch of times.
So why is it not okay now, but was back then?

Also, doesn't the Pope supposedly talk to god (or something like that. I'm not much into Catholicism). Isn't that effectively god proving himself to the Pope?
User avatar #314 to #265 - goldenglimmer (07/21/2014) [-]
In Biblical times, in other words "pre-Jesus" and before the fulfillment of the old prophecies described in the Scriptures, God is said to have intervened a lot more in the physical world. However, it is already established that the Bible is full of symbolism and anecdotal stories designed to help one create and maintain a moral framework, so one explanation is that these instances of interventionism are exactly that.

Although, it could also be argued that God's actions in the ancient world occurred in order to verify the life and teachings of Jesus, who fulfilled the prophecies and white-washed every human soul by dying on the cross, and rendering the effects of Original Sin null. See, the main job of Jesus was to create a bridge between God and mankind. No imperfect being and exist in a perfect world, so mankind is technically unable to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, because we are all contaminated by sin. However, God 's love for us (Greek philosophy: agape - God's eternal love) was so strong and unconditional that He gave a part of Himself (Jesus) and established the Holy Trinity, so that all those who desire life can come to Him, regardless of the severity of their sins.
Considering this, all of God's previous actions have led up to the Crucifixion and the first Easter, and so the only thing separating us from Him now is a matter of faith, and making our own decision to follow Him (I believe one can "follow" Jesus in many ways - not just through the teachings of the Church).

Regarding the Pope, I don't think it's said that God directly "talks" to him. Perhaps in some ways, but it's more of a sense, or calling, that he is given. The same thing happens to priests - they receive a calling to serve (if they're legitimate).
#289 to #265 - trickytrickster (07/21/2014) [-]
But he can't. I can't answer that hypothetical question because it is a nonsense question. I'm not dodging the question, it's just how it is. God wouldn't be God anymore if that happened. It would be agains this nature, his being. Sorry if that isn't the answer you are looking for.

This is of course my opinion only. As a Catholic who believes in evolution and genetics and the big bang(all approved by the Church/created by priests), just learning about something as complex as polymerase, or the process of transcription, or just how it all got started, for that to happen randomly by chance, I don't think enough time in the world has passed. I mean first off some form of transcription or some form of replication or some form of energy production would have to occur somehow first before these things could even happen, also by chance. It's just sooooo ridiculously complex. And that's just at the molecular level. I am a person who believes in a God-guided evolution, and I think the level of complexity of life validates that idea more than it just happening by mutation, etc.

He proved his existance to select people yes, but never in a mass produced widespread thing. Even with the plagues, etc, did the Egyptians all become Jews? Nope. Even when faced with obvious evidence, people reject it.

Also God doesn't talk to anyone more or less than anyone else. The Pope is simply the head of the church. He can speak with infallibility, which has only happened like 2 times ever, one of which was Mary being a virgin, and it is only on faith based things. God proves himself to people all the time, but it's on a personal basis, not a widespread basis. I mean God came down from heaven and lived life as a man for crying out loud lol. He obviously proved himself doing miracles(which he still ended up getting killed). I simply meant there will always be people who question evidence and so on.
User avatar #296 to #289 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
That seems to me (as an atheist) as dodging the question, but fair enough.

So it's one big argument from incredulity (I can't imagine how this could have happened without god).

What's the difference between proving himself to 2 people versus proving himself to 200000 people?
Is it not equally "destroying" the test of life?

But you realize that the kind of evidence that scientists consider valid, is not the kind of evidence religious people can provide?
We can prove the existence of whales, for example, but we can't seem to get the same kind of evidence from god.
Hell, even black holes, which we can't observe directly, we can still prove the existence of.
The lack of evidence is genuine. (evidence being the kind that science would accept)
#302 to #296 - trickytrickster (07/21/2014) [-]
Sorry it feels like dodging. It's just not an answerable question. It's like but what if 2+2=5 instead? It can't, 2 is a set thing. Sure you could redefine 2 as 2.5, but then 2 is no longer 2, it is something totally different.

Oh I know that type of evidence is lacking. It will always be lacking. That's what I meant I guess. You will never get that evidence. You will never get to look at something and be like there, that is God, look at this chart. Even if you did, it would probably get explained away.
User avatar #303 to #302 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
I get it, and yet I don't get it. You get what I'm saying?
I don't get it, but I'll accept your answer.

And that lack of definitive evidence is why people such as myself are atheists.


Can we continue this some other time? It's late and I got math from 8am tomorrow, so I need sleep.
Got other stuff I wanna talk about.
#305 to #303 - trickytrickster (07/21/2014) [-]
Ha you must be in a timezone close to me. I got work at 9am anyway. I will friend you or something.

I understand why someone who wants evidence would be atheist, but to me there is more to it than just evidence.
User avatar #236 to #235 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
Forgot: (In my opinion) on the first paragraph.
#247 to #236 - trickytrickster (07/21/2014) [-]
Ps You are chill. I like talking with you about this.
User avatar #188 to #184 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
Out of curiosity, where do you think this is going?
#220 to #188 - trickytrickster (07/21/2014) [-]
Btw I apologize for anything spelling errors. I'm spending the summer in Italy and their computers use italian spell check so my comments are just covered in red underlines and none of it is correct.

I figure you going somewhere around the lines of if God knows what is going to happen, why does he create people who are going to go to hell, or something like that.
User avatar #223 to #220 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
No problem.

Nah nah, you'll be surprised
#186 to #184 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
I can't get to my point because you don't believe atheist = going to hell.
User avatar #178 to #161 - cubanwhiteman ONLINE (07/21/2014) [-]
Im totally fine with that. Im not sure where I stand really on religion, But ignore the assholes who tell you otherwise though.
User avatar #53 - ribbedandstudded (07/21/2014) [-]
I'm Agnostic. I'm inclined to believe there is no God due to lack of scientific evidence as well as a few other factors I won't get into.

However, if there is a God, I do not believe He would punish me over something petty like not believing in him. If I'm a genuinely good person, that should be enough. If it isn't, that's no god I want to be associated with.
User avatar #256 to #53 - thepandaking (07/21/2014) [-]
This right here is a huge part of why I'm an atheist. That's exactly how I've always explained my standing when asked
#310 - yisumad (07/21/2014) [-]
Our one true savior
Our one true savior
#266 - durkadurka ONLINE (07/21/2014) [-]
#225 - thempc ONLINE (07/21/2014) [-]
#72 - riayl (07/21/2014) [-]
>These comments.
User avatar #44 to #10 - shadownigga (07/21/2014) [-]
******* like this is what gives us a bad name.
#47 to #44 - dehumanizer (07/21/2014) [-]
>atheism
>a good thing

pick one
User avatar #49 to #47 - shadownigga (07/21/2014) [-]
>being atheist and not shaming people for being religious and saying that because I'm atheist I'm automatically more intelligent than a religious person:
Good

>saying that I'm infinitely more intelligent that a religious person because I'm atheist and bashing religion with no cause or reason:
Bad


And it goes with religion too

> saying atheists are all neckbeard fedora wearing beta because of ********* like this and bashing the actually good atheists for no reason other than not believing what I do:
Bad

>accepting that said person is atheist and allowing them to believe what they want and not get into a debate unless provoked: Good

tl;dr: love thy neighbor
#243 to #57 - garymotherfingoak (07/21/2014) [-]
>anime fedora   
>using based tyrone when you're wrong   
>being this drek
>anime fedora
>using based tyrone when you're wrong
>being this drek
User avatar #58 to #57 - shadownigga (07/21/2014) [-]
So we cool?
User avatar #61 to #47 - sociocat (07/21/2014) [-]
religion is following a book that almost completely makes sense with history
if millions of people belived in a book that made almost complete sense just for a scientist to come and say a couple small things wrong with it would you leave it?

thats why i belive the bible was made by humans metaphoricly to give good morals and to teach people to be nice
it made so much sense to people and they all started beliving it and threw away the fact that it wasnt meant to be taken seriously
User avatar #12 to #10 - kokkoderrisch (07/21/2014) [-]
As soon as you take to ad hominem your opinion is invalid.
#13 to #12 - dehumanizer (07/21/2014) [-]
this low level bait doesent desreve a proper responce, get shrekt fedora
this low level bait doesent desreve a proper responce, get shrekt fedora
User avatar #14 to #13 - kokkoderrisch (07/21/2014) [-]
As soon as you take to ad hominem your opinion is invalid.
#15 to #14 - dehumanizer (07/21/2014) [-]
Oy vey 6000 gazilion jews died in the holocaust, hitler smells!

Holocasut is now invalid.
User avatar #16 to #15 - kokkoderrisch (07/21/2014) [-]
As soon as you take to ad hominem your opinion is invalid.
#19 to #16 - dehumanizer (07/21/2014) [-]
>implying the OP wasnt ad hominem
User avatar #21 to #19 - kokkoderrisch (07/21/2014) [-]
Including the OP.
User avatar #20 to #19 - kokkoderrisch (07/21/2014) [-]
As soon as you take to ad hominem your opinion is invalid.
#22 to #20 - dehumanizer (07/21/2014) [-]
Just because you say something is invalid, that doesent mean your opinion is valid.
User avatar #24 to #22 - kokkoderrisch (07/21/2014) [-]
I've never stated my opinion on this subject.
User avatar #23 to #22 - kokkoderrisch (07/21/2014) [-]
As soon as you take to ad hominem your opinion is invalid.
User avatar #26 to #12 - lorddarkskull (07/21/2014) [-]
The fallacy fallacy: Labeling your opponent's argument as completely without merit due to committing a fallacy.
User avatar #79 - Kairyuka (07/21/2014) [-]
But "soul" doesn't necessarily entail a religious or superstitious belief, does it? To me, souls are rather an idea of the individual value of a living creature.
User avatar #81 to #79 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
>connotation
User avatar #82 to #81 - Kairyuka (07/21/2014) [-]
>Necessarily
User avatar #84 to #82 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
>usually
User avatar #85 to #84 - Kairyuka (07/21/2014) [-]
I never claimed otherwise
#88 to #86 - Kairyuka (07/21/2014) [-]
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#90 to #89 - Kairyuka (07/21/2014) [-]
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#93 - envinite (07/21/2014) [-]
******* Jews and their Sheaningans
#242 - John Cena (07/21/2014) [-]
I'll leave this here for the athiests
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckfrn5-86xU
#248 to #242 - John Cena (07/21/2014) [-]
*Assuming your are evolutionists*
User avatar #250 to #248 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
Nvm the second part of my comment
User avatar #249 to #242 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
listverse.com/2011/11/19/8-examples-of-evolution-in-action/

What does evolution have to do with atheism?
#261 to #249 - John Cena (07/21/2014) [-]
if you watched the whole video you would know that darwins theory was based on a change of kinds not adaptaion
User avatar #269 to #261 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
"a change of kinds"
Define "kind" for me, will ya?

#281 to #269 - John Cena (07/21/2014) [-]
From bacteria all the way up to humans
User avatar #285 to #281 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
So kind is "from bacteria all the way up to humans"?
#293 to #285 - John Cena (07/21/2014) [-]
a change of kind is changing from one thing to another say a grass hopper to a praying mantis
User avatar #295 to #293 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
"kind" is a not a scientific classification.
"Species" is.
#263 to #261 - John Cena (07/21/2014) [-]
all those examples show an adaptation the moth went from a white specaled coloring to a straight black coloring
#264 to #263 - John Cena (07/21/2014) [-]
but they were still moths right?
#276 to #264 - John Cena (07/21/2014) [-]
and ill skip to the E. Coli since it was listed as number 1, it said 50k genertions had been and passed but was it a different type of bacteria? cause the article still said it was E. Coli.
User avatar #270 to #264 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
What we call them is irrelevant.
Are you referring to speciation?
User avatar #272 to #270 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
www.talkorigins.org/faqs/speciation.html
Examples of speciation in our time.
#279 to #272 - John Cena (07/21/2014) [-]
example 3. its till a mouse though right?
#280 to #279 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
If we decide to call elephants mice, are they then the same "kind" as mice?
#282 to #280 - John Cena (07/21/2014) [-]
Elephants don't come from mice -_-
User avatar #288 to #282 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
No **** .
It's utterly irrelevant what we call them.

If two animals are of a different species, they cannot breed.
Speciation is when two groups of species A evolve differently and become species B and C (or one becomes species C and the other group remains species A)

We start our with one species, now we have two species.
Speciation.
#284 to #282 - John Cena (07/21/2014) [-]
as humans don't come from a type of bacteria or crustation
User avatar #203 - Lintutu (07/21/2014) [-]
i like the idea of reincarnation
User avatar #135 - PVTDickStryker ONLINE (07/21/2014) [-]
I've found that people with 100% certainty that divinity is purely fictional are just as obnoxious and ignorant as most with 100% certainty that their faiths are the absolute truths.
User avatar #153 to #135 - testaburger (07/21/2014) [-]
And both are idiots, because neither side have met their burden of proof, and are also not omniscient, so 100% certainty is not achievable.
User avatar #155 to #153 - PVTDickStryker ONLINE (07/21/2014) [-]
Someone finally gets it.
#132 - benderisgreat (07/21/2014) [-]
Life force!
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