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WutsAtroll (01/11/2016) [-] Rape culture is a term that was coined by feminists in the United States in the 1970's. It was designed to show the ways in which society blamed victims of sexual assault and normalized male sexual violence.
So if there was a Western country, like Germany for example, where authorities blamed victims of sexual assault by saying they should have been an arm length away from the Muslim horde, and should have not dressed that way, it could be a sign of a rape culture. And if said Muslim horde was for the most part unpunished and not demonized for committing mass sexual assault because they were expected to do so, it would be a sign of a rape culture.
But of course Western feminists would never say that. Rape culture to them just means a white guy making a joke or something
So if there was a Western country, like Germany for example, where authorities blamed victims of sexual assault by saying they should have been an arm length away from the Muslim horde, and should have not dressed that way, it could be a sign of a rape culture. And if said Muslim horde was for the most part unpunished and not demonized for committing mass sexual assault because they were expected to do so, it would be a sign of a rape culture.
But of course Western feminists would never say that. Rape culture to them just means a white guy making a joke or something
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masterboll (01/12/2016) [-] muslim implies they are acting on islamic teachings. islamic teachings forbids this kind of sexual assault.
the entire point of referring to them as a "Muslim horde" is to demonise muslims, not the actual rapists.
the entire point of referring to them as a "Muslim horde" is to demonise muslims, not the actual rapists.
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platinumaltaria (01/12/2016) [-] No it really doesn't, Islam is rare in that it has one rule for other muslims and another for non-believers; IE: you can do whatever you want to non-muslims.
GG tho
GG tho
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WutsAtroll (01/12/2016) [-] no, Muslim implies that the people identify as Muslim. The Quran is heavily up for interpretation and while there are sections that forbid rape, there are also sections that encourage men to treat women as objects and use them as sex slaves or whatever. This leads to them thinking acts like this are permissible under Islam. They are also taught that women have no value
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html
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masterboll (01/12/2016) [-] >Muslim implies that the people identify as Muslim.
actually referring to them as muslims is an attempt to promote islamophobic attitudes towards muslims. if they identified as German, the said islamophobes would do everything in their power to disassociate the word "rapist" with German.
>there are also sections that encourage men to treat women as objects and use them as sex slaves or whatever
assuming youre not spewing out the misleading islamophobic propaganda crap that i suspect you are, can you give me an example of something which encourages muslim men to sexually asssault women in the way the rapists youre referring to have done?
>This leads to them thinking acts like this are permissible under Islam. They are also taught that women have no value.
no, theyre raping women because THEY believe women have no value. this kind of attitude is common even among non-muslim rapists, yet desperate attempts to isolate this kind of attitude as a "muslim" attitude is still being made by our internet propagandists
>dailymail
are you new to the world or something?
actually referring to them as muslims is an attempt to promote islamophobic attitudes towards muslims. if they identified as German, the said islamophobes would do everything in their power to disassociate the word "rapist" with German.
>there are also sections that encourage men to treat women as objects and use them as sex slaves or whatever
assuming youre not spewing out the misleading islamophobic propaganda crap that i suspect you are, can you give me an example of something which encourages muslim men to sexually asssault women in the way the rapists youre referring to have done?
>This leads to them thinking acts like this are permissible under Islam. They are also taught that women have no value.
no, theyre raping women because THEY believe women have no value. this kind of attitude is common even among non-muslim rapists, yet desperate attempts to isolate this kind of attitude as a "muslim" attitude is still being made by our internet propagandists
>dailymail
are you new to the world or something?
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WutsAtroll (01/12/2016) [-] 1) Don't care. Until Muslims actually perform serious introspection into their religion as to why it creates so many people like this, they deserve to have the bad people lumped in with them
2) Isn't this enough of an example? It's Muslim men who believe in the quran who committed this act. Now you can prove the quran doesn't teach that women are less valuable than men, and that men aren't encouraged to have sex with as many women as possible
3) They believe women have no value because that's what they are taught. I'm not talking about other rapists. You can't just say hey look over at these other rapists and forget about Muslim rapists. It doesn't work that way. Focus on the individuals at hand.
4) yeah it was the first source i found. the main stream media doesn't like reporting on that sort of thing
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2) Isn't this enough of an example? It's Muslim men who believe in the quran who committed this act. Now you can prove the quran doesn't teach that women are less valuable than men, and that men aren't encouraged to have sex with as many women as possible
3) They believe women have no value because that's what they are taught. I'm not talking about other rapists. You can't just say hey look over at these other rapists and forget about Muslim rapists. It doesn't work that way. Focus on the individuals at hand.
4) yeah it was the first source i found. the main stream media doesn't like reporting on that sort of thing
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masterboll (01/12/2016) [-] 1) islam isnt the single cause of people like this, if anything it has more to do with how these people were raised. rapists dont strike me as the type of people who thoroughly look for loopholes in Quranic verses. nobody good deserves to have bad people lumped with them. this is purely the mindset of a person who hates muslims regardless of whether they are good or bad.
2) if i remember correctly, some members of the "Muslim horde" in Germany was groping women. there is literally nothing in the Quran to suggest that this kind of behaviour is permissible in any circumstances. also, men arent encouraged to have sex with as many women as possible. sex outside of marriage is not only forbidden, men are limited to 4 wives because wars, widows and some men used to have more than that. you might want to be careful with where you get this information about muslim men and sex from. i can almost guarantee that its from a dodgy author.
3) many muslim cultures treat women of equal value as men and some even value women more than men. to simply suggest that all muslim men are taught to treat women with no value is just ******** to say the least. this kind of generalisation can only come from someone who doesnt interact with muslims of different culture much or sits in front of a computer watching propaganda videos about cherry picked oppressive cultures all day.
4) if anything, with islamophobia spreading like wildfire across the gullible and stupid, there is a lot of money to be made from headlines like these.
islamophobia is one hell of a drug when it doesnt affect you, eh?
2) if i remember correctly, some members of the "Muslim horde" in Germany was groping women. there is literally nothing in the Quran to suggest that this kind of behaviour is permissible in any circumstances. also, men arent encouraged to have sex with as many women as possible. sex outside of marriage is not only forbidden, men are limited to 4 wives because wars, widows and some men used to have more than that. you might want to be careful with where you get this information about muslim men and sex from. i can almost guarantee that its from a dodgy author.
3) many muslim cultures treat women of equal value as men and some even value women more than men. to simply suggest that all muslim men are taught to treat women with no value is just ******** to say the least. this kind of generalisation can only come from someone who doesnt interact with muslims of different culture much or sits in front of a computer watching propaganda videos about cherry picked oppressive cultures all day.
4) if anything, with islamophobia spreading like wildfire across the gullible and stupid, there is a lot of money to be made from headlines like these.
islamophobia is one hell of a drug when it doesnt affect you, eh?
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WutsAtroll (01/12/2016) [-] 1) I never said Islam is the cause, I just said the perpetrators believe in Islam. Which they do. Why do you also automatically assume a Muslim who just stands there after an incident trying to protect the good name of Islam is a good person?
2) Fair enough actually, I know that the quran does forbid rape and does look down upon sex outside of marriage
3) I have read sections of the quran that mention that a woman is worth less than that of a man. Just in case it was cherry picked, can you provide evidence to the contrary?
4) It is policy of the German government to keep crimes committed by Muslim immigrants secret from the public to prevent a rising right wing movement from gaining further ground
Honestly as bad as the incident is, my original comment was more critical of the response from the German government than anything. Blaming the victims rather than the perpetrator is really unacceptable
2) Fair enough actually, I know that the quran does forbid rape and does look down upon sex outside of marriage
3) I have read sections of the quran that mention that a woman is worth less than that of a man. Just in case it was cherry picked, can you provide evidence to the contrary?
4) It is policy of the German government to keep crimes committed by Muslim immigrants secret from the public to prevent a rising right wing movement from gaining further ground
Honestly as bad as the incident is, my original comment was more critical of the response from the German government than anything. Blaming the victims rather than the perpetrator is really unacceptable
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anon (01/12/2016) [-]
We are concerned with the actual state of affairs of the world, as nowadays you can't really guess if the girl you are dating is a psychotic liar and will **** your life over, or not.
And that is not normal. To be SO legally defensless just because you were born a man.
And that is not normal. To be SO legally defensless just because you were born a man.
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WutsAtroll (01/12/2016) [-] Obsessed with what? If you don't see a problem with people in positions of power siding with the group that just committed mass sexual assault over the victims then you are frankly an idiot and your apathy is not in any way a benefit. It's not helpful to you or to society so you might as well lose the attitude and take your head out of the sand
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thegundanhero (01/11/2016) [-] rape culture is w/e women want it to be and it, like everyother word, can be changed to fit their needs
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WutsAtroll (01/11/2016) [-] yeah lol. The best explanation I got was when a feminist told me off for going by the definition of patriarchy because "You can't use a dictionary definition to describe an abstract concept" lmao. According to her it can't be proven or substantiated in any way, but we should just listen and believe
