Welp. .. Obama isn't the problem. He isn't even part of congress, or the legislative branch. He isn't the centerpiece of the Democratic party. He's in his second term, a Government shutdown WTF freedums
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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#1 - anon id: 330a99c4
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(10/07/2013) [-]
Actually, its proof he is the problem.
Cutting deals with anti-American Islamofacists while trying to bankrupt America by forcing through a law (for purely political reasons) that 2/3 of American's never wanted and still don't then refusing to not only negotiate revisions to it but to even talk about the issues Americans have with it.
#2 to #1 - craigdavid
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show me the stats before you hate him cos hes black
User avatar #3 to #1 - odinshomeboy
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He doesnt have to negotiate because the Obamacare thing is ******* LAW. The supreme court deemed it CONSTITUTIONAL when they were trying to fight it months ago. Obama has literally done everything by the book, proved everything is completely legal and then they shut down the governement.

The Rublicans (Or whoever the **** they are) Are being little bitches because they ******* lost and this is their last resort.

The United States Government doesn't negotiate with Terrorists.
User avatar #15 to #3 - mistafishy
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(10/08/2013) [-]
>implying Republicans are terrorists

Wait, ****, they're doing more damage than AL Qaeda right now...
User avatar #8 to #3 - RageRambo
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You do realize that since it's passed. Obama has to break his own law of not raising the debt ceiling?
User avatar #13 to #8 - bakonforall
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we spend 36.6 thousand dollars an hour on cruise missiles, and you're complaining about the costs of making sick people well?

(nationalpriorities.org/cost-of/)
User avatar #21 to #13 - SteyrAUG
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My biggest problem with obamacare is how every single person that is a good buddy of obama has somehow managed to exempt themselves from it. No extra taxes, just doesn't apply to the people who are really chummy with the president.
User avatar #4 to #3 - heartlessrobot
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Do people not remember what used to happen when laws passed that people didn't like? They got a new government.
User avatar #9 to #4 - inyourmind
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not to start a major fight but the best way to look at the statistic is this. 35-45% approve of the law as it is. 10-15% believe it should go further (full socialized) and 30-40% thing it should be removed. The last two are usually lumped together in surveys resulting in a 40-55% opposing which the republicans prefer to use.

This would really imply an on average approval of the democrats stance on defending the law which meets up with the on average population blaming the republicans for the current issues occurring in congress.

also on average 10% do not have an opinion.
User avatar #5 to #4 - odinshomeboy
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He's out of office in like what? a year or something? The Republicans had a goddamn solid platform to run off, but now everyones going to be pissed at them for being idiots and the Democrats are going to win again.

Short term cocksuckery for long term defeat. They have clearly never played Chess.
User avatar #10 to #5 - justinsane
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solid platform? are you actually kidding me?
User avatar #6 to #5 - heartlessrobot
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You do know the people actually have zero say in who becomes president, right?
User avatar #7 to #6 - odinshomeboy
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I'm Canadian. I don't give a ****.

Sorry if that offends you.
User avatar #11 to #7 - bakonforall
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you guys have universal healthcare, right?
#16 to #11 - justapubbie
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Yes.

Con: Most people have to wait in the hospital room for a couple hours before the doctors will see them.
Pro: if it's important, you get to skip to the front of the 'line'.
Pro: people in critical condition don't have to wait.
I once had a bead stuck in my ear, apparently that's considered important so I only had to wait like 5 minutes.
User avatar #18 to #16 - LaBarata
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Yeah, maybe it's just me, but I'd prefer to wait an hour or two to be seen than, y'know, die horribly because I can't afford medical treatment.

But maybe that's just me.
#22 to #18 - justapubbie
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I think it helps with the Canadian stereotype, personally. Which is a good thing.

"Oh, you're in danger of losing your hearing? Well me and my broken arm are just in pain, but it's no big deal in the long run. You go on ahead eh, by tomorrow we'll both be okay." This conversation didn't actually happen They do have somebody look you over before adding you to the queue to assess your damage and prioritize your injuries. I think it's a good system too This is too many damn spoilers
User avatar #24 to #22 - LaBarata
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Oh, it's a great system. Again, the only issue is time. My dad has a saying. 'If you've got a problem that can be solved with time or money, you don't have a problem'. In this case, it's literally trading a few hours for hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I'm pretty ******* OK with that. The only problem I've found is that we tend to have even longer waits when there are fewer doctors, an issue we've been having further north.
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User avatar #14 to #3 - zombiexslayer
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Maybe you should learn to spell "Republican" before joining in on political debates.
User avatar #27 to #14 - odinshomeboy
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That was part of the joke of saying '(Or Whoever the **** they are)"
#17 - Silverseraph
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Obama isn't the problem. He isn't even part of congress, or the legislative branch. He isn't the centerpiece of the Democratic party. He's in his second term, and has no voting power in the current situation.

The problem right now is the children in Congress.
User avatar #19 to #17 - Ruspanic
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Well, Obama is the de facto leader of the Democratic Party, and he also has to sign the bills Congress passes.
#20 to #19 - Silverseraph
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He has nothing to sign though. I'm not saying that I'm a particular fan of the guy, but he can't sign a bill that's not yet on his desk.
User avatar #23 to #20 - Ruspanic
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Right, but he did say he'd veto any bill that makes any changes to Obamacare, should such a bill make it past the Senate. I'm not saying this is Obama's fault, but if he decided to compromise with the Republicans, his fellow Democrats would probably follow suit.
User avatar #26 - tomahawkit **User deleted account**
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regardless of your political views, this does not need to be in gif form.

I side with the umpalumpas in case you are wondering
User avatar #25 - philliyoMLB
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To be fair Obama isn't changing the deal with him like he did with the affordable health care act.