my mom's a nurse and she told me a story about this one old guy who was on the verge of death and almost missed his kids. he was at the hospital with his bitch of a wife. all she'd do is complain and yell at her husband. their kids live 8 hours away and were driving down to say their farewells when his heart finally gave out. nobody was going to resuscitate him but then his bitch wife yelled "you bastard you better not die before you see you're kids!" and the dude woke up and yelled back the " **** do you want woman!". she was no longer allowed in the room but he did get to see his kids.
See, this is where it starts to get complicated, because there are two intercoms. One mechanical one that consists of speakers and wire is for the Acolytes or "Residents" who cannot hear the second one. The second one is for the real doctors (your "Lichs", although they prefer "Human Puppetmaster, or MnD - Medical necro-Doctor), which can only be heard in the well sterilized Aether, this is where skeletons and spoop-monsters whom have had their proper medical backgrounds checked, float around and tell their white-enrobed masters where they are needed.
It is true. When your heart stops, you also stop breathing. You are clinically dead. Not dead dead. Just clinically, meaning there is a chance you can still be revived. (without someone performing CPR) You have 4min before their brain starts dying and have irreversible damage. At the 7min mark it's too late. Even with CPR you don't have very long before it's too late. If you manage to get their heart started again, it's possible for them to wake up welling you are doing CPR.
I'd like to point out that there is no clear cut mark where it is too late. There have been extreme cases of people being saved after being clinically dead for over 30 minutes.
There is brain damage, but they can live and they can recover.
I am referring specifically to cases where CPR was given near the time of death.
No... There isn't. It has more to do with circumstance of the death rather than the person. The average time is actually much more that considering that's less than the time of arrival for ambulances, in reference to your 7 minute number of being "too late". 4 minutes 'til their brain starts to incur damage is fine, but not the 7 minute mark you put for it being "too late".
and people tend to pass out in 1-2 seconds when their heart stops. It's not like in movies where they grab their heart, freeze in that position and fall over. You feel that last beat, vision just goes black and then you're on the floor. Don't have time to react.
Bro. Don't fight me on this. I am studying to become an EMT. The brain is useless without oxygen and your heart beating is the thing supplying your brain and every thing in the body with oxygen. Once your heart stops, you're ****** unless someone starts CPR.
And I'm a bio major, I know the basics of how the brain and heart interact. I also specifically said I was talking about the cases where CPR was used close to the time of death.
Being clinically dead is the only time to do CPR. If they are dead dead (I forgot the term), it's 110% pointless because that means their brain is dead and you can't revive or fix that.
Did you not notice in my comment I said with without CPR? Also by time of death, do you mean clinically dead or dead dead? Because if someone isn't clinically dead (meaning their heat hasn't stopped), why in hell are you doing CPR on them?
You really don't have too long to save someone with CPR alone. Yes, there are rare cases where people are revived after 10-30min. But it's rare. For average people, you will get brain damage after a few min with out CPR. And with CPR you have more time but not as long as anyone would like and it doesn't help that most people don't do CPR correctly and tend to stop if they break the ribs because they think they did something wrong.
It doesn't matter why your heart stopped either. If you were shocked, frozen, cardiac arrest. When your heart stopped. That's all that matters. Unless your heart was damaged (as in stabbed, exploded or something like that then it matters because CPR won't do **** at that point).
I did see that you said without CPR, I just wanted to make it clear that there isn't a guarantee of death at 7 minutes, even without it. The picture you posted says brain death is on average between 8 and 10 minutes (4-6 after the first 4 minutes when brain damage starts) so it isn't entirely absurd to try helping even after that 7 minutes are up.
In the previous comment I meant clinical death. The first time I used it in this comment I meant dead dead.
You really think CPR is useless when the heart is damaged? If you can hold them off long enough to get a machine hooked up, it should still help depending on the severity of the wound. The most important thing is just to keep feeding the brain with oxygen, hearts can be replaced and blood replenished.
I'll just refer to the two cases as clinical and brain death from now on, pretty sure those are clear enough terms to differentiate them.
Ah ok that was my mistake. I didn't mean don't help them I just meant there is a good chance they either won't wake up or will have extreme brain damage, by all means still do CPR.
As for the damaged heart I didn't say it's pointless to perform CPR. I meant that when the reason why the heart stopped matters, it complicates things. For example, being stabbed or shot in the heart, the knife/bullet could still be in there and if you start CPR, the responder could get hurt or you could just end up destroying the heart.
No it is when your brain dies that you are declared dead. That is why you have ten minutes to resuscitate someone. It is also why CPR rarely ever brings someone back. CPR is merely a way to make sure that the brain gets oxygen and gives paramedics and doctors enough time to get the man to a hospital where equipment can hopefully bring him back.
CLINICALLY dead is when your heart and breathing stops. There is a difference between CLINICALLY dead and dead where they are going to hae a funeral for you. CLINICALLY dead is what I've been talking about.
It's not a guarantee that they can be revived. With sudden cardiac arrest (your heart suddenly stops) it's a 7% survival rate without CPR. Like I said, heart stopping is clinically dead. You kinda stop existing for a bit. Your brain stops all functions. CPR is just to keep some oxygen going to your brain so your brain doesn't die off as fast. Depending on what happened, it's only a possibility that you can be revived.
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it's the start of their brand new life
we let people continue on with their previous information when they die and come back, so they don't have to start from scratch and lose their progress
like new game+