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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#1 - deezknuts
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>implying people benefit from communism
User avatar #9 to #1 - IamSofaKingdom
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Communism as it was created is basically a utopia. The problem is that it requires no centralized power, everything is shared equally, but to do so a centralized power would have to do it. People can't work well enough to apply it in it's true form.
#14 to #9 - anon id: 042d8f80
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Well...at least not on a large scale. Apparently Karl Marx came up with the idea from observing Native American community structures. However, even HE realized that it doesn't work on a large scale, as he once said:

"I know one thing: that I am not a Marxist."
#22 to #1 - astarothaufromage
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Well it works on a small scale.
#2 to #1 - chris chris
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implying people benefit from democracy
User avatar #3 to #2 - deezknuts
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Well I sure do.

no system is perfect but its better than communism
#4 to #3 - chris chris
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its actually not, in principal they both are equally valid, but in practice they opress people just the same because the people with power in both systems abuse it.

my examples for negative: old USSR, the U.S now
my examples for positive: all eventually gave us modern civilazation
User avatar #5 to #4 - deezknuts
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US now isn't even too bad.


I mean we got milkshakes and ****
#6 to #5 - chris chris
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i'v been waiting for a long time for any reason to use this reaction pic, thank you.
User avatar #10 to #6 - allamericandude
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You guys are comparing apples and oranges.

Democracy is a method of choosing political leaders.
Communism is a method of distributing resources more or less .

You can even have democratic communisms. It isn't very likely, and it would probably never work in practice--because communisms typically require a very strong central government like a dictatorship or oligarchy--but it's theoretically possible.
User avatar #32 to #10 - lovot
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What you are looking for is a direct democracy, right now the U.S. uses a representative democracy, the difference is in a direct democracy the people have direct and complete control of the government, in a representative democracy the people vote on government officials, and the officials run the country however the hell they want, regardless of what the people want or what they promised. The main issue with direct democracy is a fast and secure voting system must be in place to avoid any organization from taking over the government by manipulating the votes. Such a system would have to be electronic in nature, and be very resistant to hacking or cheating by making more accounts, as well as anonymous* and open source**. In short nearly impossible to do perfectly. The representative democracy method has the same problem, but the votes happen less frequently so they can take much more time, which allows much more control over the process and making it more tamper proof, however if someone manages to rig an election (which I can't prove, but I'm certain it happens all the time) it takes several years to fix, and the politicians elected regardless of tampering are highly unreliable and can be compromised easily because most of them don't really care about the rest of the country as long as they receive benefits from being controlled.

*If any organizations decided to take action against people who voted against their goals, then many people could quickly become too scared to vote.

**Closed source software can easily be manipulated by the coders, and it would take more time to repair security flaws and produce a better program. In addition to that the code can be scrutinized by anyone, and any persistent*** exploitable security holes could be used by everyone equally.

***Holes that could not be fixed in time for the next vote
User avatar #33 to #32 - lovot
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TLR A direct democracy has many more opportunities to rig a vote, but at the same time there are infinitely more opportunities to refine the system and make it more difficult to rig. A representative democracy has fewer votes to rig and the votes can be made more secure, but there are few opportunities to refine the system, and the representatives do not accurately represent the will of the people, and are difficult to remove until the next election.
#7 to #3 - biscuitsunited
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Damn right!
User avatar #16 to #2 - Ruspanic
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>implying democracy is the opposite of Communism
User avatar #12 to #2 - economic
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schnizel
Do you have that image about ******* + capitalism vs a nuke?
User avatar #17 to #12 - schnizel
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Nope, sorry bro.
User avatar #13 - infinitereaper
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I'm starting to think the system doesn't matter, people find a way to take advantage.
#15 to #13 - douthit
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Yup, that's why we can't have a "system". Anarcho-capitalism FTW!
User avatar #25 to #15 - pebar
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"A government which maintained law and order, defined property rights, served as a means whereby we could modify property rights and other rules of the economic game, adjudicated disputes about the interpretation of the rules, enforced contracts, promoted competition, provided a monetary framework, engaged in activities to counter technical monopolies and to overcome neighborhood effects widely regarded as sufficiently important to justify government intervention, and which supplemented private charity and the private family in protecting the irresponsible, whether madman or child -- such a government would clearly have important functions to perform. The consistent [libertarian] is not an anarchist."

--Milton Friedman, "Capitalism and Freedom," page 34
User avatar #21 to #13 - thebaseballexpert
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#23 to #13 - johndapro
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#11 - hueman
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Actually, wouldn't socialism be more fitting of that description rather than communism?
#18 to #11 - anon id: c2ba6f73
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"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
Winston Churchill
#19 to #18 - slias
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"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries." Winston Churchill.

Churchill knew his ****, every system has it's flaws.
User avatar #20 to #11 - thebaseballexpert
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Socialism- Wealth distributed by the aggregate community IN LIEU OF the government

Communism- Wealth is distributed to the aggregate community BY the government
User avatar #31 - lovot
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Communism only works on paper, unless CelestAI from Friendship is Optimal goes online IRL, and that would not end well. Seriously though, it would take something as insane and absurdly powerful as CelestAI to make communism work, I would not suggest trying it.
#30 - anoxz
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User avatar #26 - krizz
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>everyone benefits
#24 - pebar
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benefits...
#27 to #24 - satrenkotheone
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Capitalist propaganda.
#28 to #27 - pebar
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you know it
User avatar #29 to #28 - satrenkotheone
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That's the only flying tank picture I have.
#8 - include
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