We all know one. . i. pr' prayer we but ultimately futile? ... not trying to start anything religious or anti-religious but in the interest of objectivity, i propose this: an inseure person spends a night in prayer - for th We all know one i pr' prayer we but ultimately futile? not trying to start anything religious or anti-religious in the interest of objectivity propose this: an inseure person spends a night - for th
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#1 - AnonymousDonor
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(04/08/2014) [-]
not trying to start anything religious or anti-religious

but in the interest of objectivity, i propose this:



an inseure person spends a night in prayer - for this example, let's say they are asking for a job
being insecure betafag, they know from experience that, left to their own devices, they would get too nervous and fail the interview

their prayer to and belief in a higher power (whether existent or not) gives them the confidence to go out and present themselves to the best of their ability in the interview

and they get the job


is that ultimately futile?
discuss
User avatar #7 to #1 - kibbleking
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(04/09/2014) [-]
I think it would work the opposite; they'd become careless because they think that no matter how bad they did, they'd still get the job.

Also I think spending the whole night praying would make it hard to stay awake in the morning.
#8 to #1 - kiwirulestwo
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(04/09/2014) [-]
I liked this discussion   
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I liked this discussion
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User avatar #2 to #1 - redtooth
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(04/08/2014) [-]
While it is not ultimately futile, it is a placebo effect (of sorts, I guess).

So for an insecure person to pray, then get the job because of belief in a higher power, is a good thing. However it is not the intervention of a "higher power" of any kind.

IMO it'd be better if the person worked on his confidence and gained something of permanence rather than rely on a higher power as a crutch.
#3 to #2 - AnonymousDonor
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(04/08/2014) [-]
indeed

i was just hoping to point out the futility of arguing for or against a higher power

there is no argument that could prove or disprove their existence

because what if the higher power did exist and its solution was to give the person the same confidence they would have had if none existed?

and if the person had any introspection in their life, they might even realize this and gain something of permanence as well
#4 to #3 - redtooth
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User avatar #9 to #2 - sweetbutteryjesus
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(04/09/2014) [-]
There is actually an Aesop Fable of something like this:
A man whose cart is stuck prays to Hercules to give him strength to move it.
Hercules simply tells the man to push from another side.
Moral: Gods only help those who help themselves.
User avatar #5 - drakevil
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(04/08/2014) [-]
So, three people are discussing religion.
A atheist, a christian and a nordic.
The atheist start complaing that anyone who believes a god is stupid and how he is smart whille tipping his fedora.
The christian is screaming, saying that they are all going to burn in hell for not accept Christ and his love.
The nordic watches in silence, and wait.
And wait.
And wait.
Then both atheist and christian notice how silence his is and shut up a moment. They look to the Nordic. He stand up, look at the two, and then grabs his massive warhammer with nordic runes and smash both they heads. Then he sits, call his hot, blonde wife to bring his ale and proclaims how much the no-faith little man and the puny-god worshipper with a big mouth was no match for the glory of a true follower of the great odin.
#6 to #5 - anon id: 424c34a3
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(04/09/2014) [-]
Then the swedish kid wakes up.