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#11 - samoaspider (12/22/2015) [-]
sounds awfully like some 8th grader made up a fact for internet thumps
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#56 to #11 - ThatAnnoyingKid (12/22/2015) [-]
"homie, stop eating so many doughnuts and farting in the bed i hate u so much but the dick game ridiculous
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#148 to #56 - masterboll (12/22/2015) [-]
"Mom, stop referring to dad as "homie". You aint no straight balla', busta."
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User avatar #14 to #11 - doombunni (12/22/2015) [-]
I'm a teacher and this is partially true. Ya'lls ass is mine during the school day, but I can't force you to stay after due to legal reasons and that the only way some kids are able to get home is by the school bus. The Geneva bit is most likely ******** though.
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#25 to #14 - cactaur ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
I work at the school cafeteria and I can confirm. Teachers gotta release students when the bell rings (unless under instructions to do so otherwise.).

Had one teacher keep her kids in class until the whole room was silent when the lunch bell rang. Can't do that because students get a limited amount of time to eat.

Plus that **** is aggravating when students don't show up when they are suppose to. Cuts into our time to switch out pans and trays and students end up having to wait on us which just eats up their time as well. A Domino effect of sorts.
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User avatar #27 to #25 - doombunni (12/22/2015) [-]
I don't keep my kids from lunch, but I tell them if they can't stay quiet on the walk to the lunchroom (I have to escort my class to/from the lunch room and we pass classes that are still in session) I'll sure as hell make sure they're last to eat
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#48 to #27 - sacrilegious (12/22/2015) [-]
Jeez do you teach kindergartners or do you teach in a war zone?
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User avatar #53 to #48 - doombunni (12/22/2015) [-]
Middle Schoolers
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#58 to #53 - sacrilegious (12/22/2015) [-]
I'm so sorry.
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User avatar #62 to #58 - doombunni (12/22/2015) [-]
meh it was the only place that would hire a first-year teacher who hadn't even graduated yet at that time. Overall I love my little pipsqueaks and they're good a majority of the time, but I think I'm slowly being put off ever having children
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#165 to #62 - sacrilegious (12/22/2015) [-]
Nah, it's cool. My gf's teacher just moved to the high school from middle school so I totally respect you for that.
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#189 to #53 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
so a warzone and seriously kindergartners are ******* easy. they misbehave and you stare at thembfor five seconds and they correct their behaviour
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User avatar #23 to #14 - wertologist (12/22/2015) [-]
My teacher of the last class of the day in 8th grade liked to keep people a little after the bell so he could finish what he was saying. The 8th grade was on the 2nd floor and his room was closest to the stairs and my locker was all the way at the other end of the hall away from the stairs. I often missed my bus because he wanted to finish his speech.

Dude was awesome though. Huge LOTR and Star Wars fan. Still good friends with him.
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#19 to #14 - cookiedude (12/22/2015) [-]
At my school, the bus doesn't arrive for about 10 minutes, so I keep any of my ********* for at least 9 minutes whether they ride bus or not.

Also, my principal is old school, like 62 years old, old school, and has no problem having a kid write an apology letter 5 times after school to the teacher, class, parents, and God (Catholic school). Then, he actually enjoys calling parents and telling them that their child had to stay after school for reason X and they'll need to pick them up; or he'd be happy to drop them off on his own to the house/babysitter.

It's gonna suck when he retires.
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User avatar #21 to #19 - doombunni (12/22/2015) [-]
I work at a low income (title I) school where most parents work two jobs, don't have a car, or both, so I can't keep the kids unless there's permission from the parents. We usually keep them in the morning or during lunch if needs be.
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#29 to #21 - anon (12/22/2015) [-]
Right. if they worked two jobs they would have a car, and would probably not be low income.
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User avatar #31 to #29 - doombunni (12/22/2015) [-]
If you're a single mom with two jobs and three kids, your first priority might not be a car. You also don't know what those two jobs are, what their financial situation is, whether or not that parent is responsible, the list goes on. Yes, it is possible to have two jobs and no car, and still be considered low income
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#41 to #29 - anon (12/22/2015) [-]
The dumbest anon chimes in
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#70 to #29 - skebaba (12/22/2015) [-]
Not true. In big cities car is not needed AT ALL.
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#33 to #11 - vanledbelly (12/22/2015) [-]
Ah, yes. Internet thumps. The most valuable of all internet currency.
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#46 to #33 - anon (12/22/2015) [-]
**anonymous used "*roll picture*"**
**anonymous rolled image** *thump* *thump*
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User avatar #188 to #154 - personnameguy (12/24/2015) [-]
thx bby
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#144 to #46 - anon (12/22/2015) [-]
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User avatar #7 - yugiohkris ONLINE (12/21/2015) [-]
Yeah the Geneva Convention is not gonna do **** . One of the laws is no chemical warfare, So pepper spray should be outlawed.
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User avatar #118 to #7 - shadowkingdr (12/22/2015) [-]
it is
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User avatar #87 to #7 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
The geneva convention is only used to punish dictators of countries, anyway.

They say no forced convention and no chemical warfare, but anyone who isn't brutally running a small country doesn't need to worry about that.
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User avatar #9 to #7 - dndxplain ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
it has specific definitions on chemical warfare.
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User avatar #10 to #9 - yugiohkris ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
Looks banned to me, unless this is flase info. facingteargas.org/bp/35/chemical-weapons-convention
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#12 to #10 - mediocremartin (12/22/2015) [-]
"While tear gas and pepper spray, under international law, are banned as a 'method of warfare', there are no restrictions to their domestic use as a 'riot control agent.'"

Be honest now. Did you actually read the source you linked?
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User avatar #13 to #12 - yugiohkris ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
I just read this and thought it was ok "Riot control agents including tear gas and pepper spray are banned in international warfare under both the 1925 Geneva Protocol and the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC)" and Geneva Convention doesn't enforce it so they would'nt enforce the OP's post.
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#15 to #13 - mediocremartin (12/22/2015) [-]
Honest mistake. You're still right in the assumption that the US wouldn't give a **** about violating the Geneva Conventions. Just look at Guantanamo.
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#42 to #15 - anon (12/22/2015) [-]
Why would we care about something we didn't sign
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#1 - evilhomer (12/21/2015) [-]
And when the teachers in jail
"The judge doesn't dismiss you, I, Long Shlong Bubba, do"
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User avatar #40 to #1 - derpyhuman ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
who's the woman?
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#60 to #40 - anon (12/22/2015) [-]
Hillary Clinton, i think
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User avatar #153 to #40 - iqpwner (12/22/2015) [-]
Angela Merkel, I think.
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#18 - LarsGoes (12/22/2015) [-]
That only applies to POWs, so if you are at school because you were captured in an armed conflict that may apply to you.
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User avatar #151 to #18 - antedeluvian (12/22/2015) [-]
Youd don't actually have to be a POW, your school only needs to be in a war zone.
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#161 to #151 - anon (12/22/2015) [-]
And you're teacher be a combatant.
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User avatar #166 to #161 - antedeluvian (12/22/2015) [-]
No the geneva convention applies to civilians too.
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User avatar #159 to #18 - augustusxxiv (12/22/2015) [-]
Sooo detention from getting into a fist fight?
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#50 to #18 - tazze (12/22/2015) [-]
so SOME kids can use it after all!
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#16 - affix (12/22/2015) [-]
Collective punishment?
HAHHAHA.
What do you think is the meat and potatoes of Marine Corps doctrine?
I guess there is an armed services exception.
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User avatar #17 to #16 - grasman (12/22/2015) [-]
That's one of the reasons why you're a dumbass if you join the military.
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#34 to #17 - affix (12/22/2015) [-]
Suffering and difficulty are good for you.
Calm seas never made a skilled sailer.

I know you're a skilled couch warrior though, you're welcome for the freedom.
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User avatar #37 to #34 - selfdestructo (12/22/2015) [-]
That picture just hit me in the feels man.
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User avatar #35 to #34 - grasman (12/22/2015) [-]
You don't even think it's at least a little bit ****** up to make killing other people your job?
Btw. no, I'm not exclusively talking about the US Army, in case you thought that.
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#36 to #35 - affix (12/22/2015) [-]
It's incredibly ****** up to need to kill anything with today's society.
We have the power, technology, and energy to make the world a great place for everyone.

I don't know why it isn't like that. I choose this for an occupation the same way others pick their jobs. I wanted to.
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User avatar #38 to #36 - grasman (12/22/2015) [-]
Resources.
America needs ~40% of the worlds resources.
Europe and russia need ~40% of the worlds resources.
And probably in a few years asia needs ~40% of the worlds resources as well.
Then we have a problem.
We already have a problem.
Capitalism.
Sadly the people that could change it benefit the most from it and won't change it because they would lose the most.
So, they take the people that are just trying to live in the system and let them fight for their goals.
It's all connected and nobody is really the evil force.
Everybody fighting on this planet is really just reacting to actions of other parties, everyone in their own ways.
And everyone sees the other parties as the evil force.
All we have to do is stop it and think about a fair way to share what we can get out of the planet.
But it's more efficient to send soldiers into war and get more than to have piece and get less.
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#66 to #38 - anon (12/22/2015) [-]
****** he just said we dont lack the resources when HE SAID WE HAVE THE POWER ,TECH, and ENERGY needed to do the thing.
at least we currently have enough resources for the current amount of people today .
maybe in the future if the population grows too big then maybe there may not be enough resources but this planet hasnt reached that limit yet.

seems to me most people just LACK the MOTIVE to make the world a much better place for everyone. sure, there's plenty of people workin towards that, but its not the majority. most people from the rich to the poor, are more concerned about taking care of themselves and their family, and the very poor are usually occupied with survival.
but god bless those people that are making progress for the rest of us cuz lord knows i'm too busy with browsing these dank memes.
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User avatar #157 to #66 - grasman (12/22/2015) [-]
Cpitalism and the driving forces behind it dictate that there isn't such a thing as "enough".
Because if you have more you can get more out of it.
So, everyone wants as many resources as possible.
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User avatar #39 to #38 - grasman (12/22/2015) [-]
*peace
lol
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#59 to #17 - redbannerman ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
I can't hear you over my paid for college. Oh mercy, but it seems I'm a dumbass. Golly, I sure wish I was smart and just went to college and racked up debt that I'd be paying for for years to come. Golly gosh darn. I truly do have the egg on my face.

Wassat, Oh right, I'm also stupid for joining something that will turn me into a ripped ************ . Then again, ladies don't like ripped dudes in uniform, right? Oh, darn. I guess I ****** up hard didn't I?

Oh geez, and that job experience I'm going to get so I can actually get a job with that college degree, guess that's a foolish notion as well. If only I could be a brave couch warrior such as yourself and bash people who are better than me. Golly Gosh.
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User avatar #156 to #59 - grasman (12/22/2015) [-]
It's just logical that they make it as lucrative as possible.
Otherwise at some point they would run out of soldiers for their wars.
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#67 to #59 - anon (12/22/2015) [-]
oh go step on a landmine.
apparently suffering and difficulty is good for you.
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User avatar #68 to #67 - redbannerman ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
Suffering and difficulty ARE good for you, you ******* dumbass.
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#149 to #17 - anon (12/22/2015) [-]
these people are also the reason why you can sit behind a device and say that
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#162 to #17 - anon (12/22/2015) [-]
Recognizing that hardship can make you stronger makes you a dumbass? Interesting theory...
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User avatar #163 to #162 - grasman (12/22/2015) [-]
No, the fact that your job can get you killed easily makes you a dumbass.
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#71 - ciacheczko (12/22/2015) [-]
Yeah, we tried pulling some rulebook stuff in our favour in school. And not some asshole stuff. We, for example, tried to reduce the horrific amount of tests they were always giving us at the end of semester, because they were too lazy to spread them evenly throughout it. To them it's just end of semester test. To us it was an avalanche of exams flowing from the direction of every single school subject we had.

And, what a surprise, the teachers didn't give a single **** and some even insinuated that we shouldn't play smart with them because they know they can do whatever the **** they want.

I love my country's school system. They should burn the whole Ministry of Education here to the ground, as far as I'm concerned.
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User avatar #91 to #71 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
Um...

You do realize that you only need to take what, 5 tests? Your teachers need to individually grade 30. And that's a ******* of work if you're an english teacher.

And, how are you going to survive college if you can't even manage your high school's end of semester exams? Finals are ten times harder than any test you take in high school.

It's not 'horrific' that's pretty normal. As long as it's not on the same day, you're fine, and hell, I've had three midterms on the same day and been fine.
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#171 to #91 - ciacheczko (12/23/2015) [-]
I had to repost, because I accidentally a sentence. At least read the ******* whole thing, you bloody moron, and maybe realise that not everyone is 12 on this site. I'm an adult with a stabilised life, and what are you? A little cunt.

I'm talking about old time in my high school, dumnut. Where, because it was art school, we had not only the basic 18 subjects to learn, but also 5 additional artistic subjects that roughly added up to 16 additional lessons per week. It was ******* of work, especially with multiple projects we had to do and deadlines to meet. Not something an average lazy ass high schooler does. At least 2-3 days a week we spent almost 9 hours at school and it was only because they, by the overall agreement of students, reduced the time of our pauses by half to cut the time we had to spend there as much as possible.

Yes I know it was my choice, yes I am happy I made it, and no it doesn't change the fact that we had severely less time to spare than other teenagers, and at the same time in about one month we had at least two exams on each subject, sometimes even 6 a week, 4 of which were written down as small pop quizes so it legally would still be okay to do. Oh and don't mention that commercial campaign you had to design and a bunch of sketches of people you had to make meanwhile, and a mandatory field trip. It is NOT ******* fun. Five tests my ass.

As far as you're concerned, since you probably already have a pretty little convenient image of me in your peanut-sized brain, I actually did really well, had a good average and also handled college, because it somehow happens that I'm fast working and fast learning. I work, I live, I am fine. And I don't ask people if they want to have fries with that, dickhead. It still wasn't okay for us students to be treated this way, and if those teachers could do their bloody job right instead of slacking for majority of semester, we wouldn't have all this **** every so often.

The really horrific thing is that people who grow to be teachers suddenly become patronising assholes who think students have nothing better to do in their lives than to skip sleep and live like a zombie for years to learn about the magnificent wonders of basic subcjects, majority of which will be never useful for them in their lives. Most of us agree after all these years - work is far better, at least we do it and then go home free of couple of hours more work to do every evening. College is another thing, you at least choose your field, but this is another topic entirely so there's no reason to discuss it.

You are one of such patronising assholes. I already know that, soon, when I'm going to have children and send them to school, I will have do the same goddamn circus my parents did, which is to use the little amount of time I will have between cooking, working, housekeeping, and taking care of their own marriage, to sit though a ******* of housework my children will literally not be able to do alone effectively, no matter how talented they were. I was a talented child, I did major most of my work alone, and still sometimes required help. But my brother needed it noticably more often, and I tell you, this is not something you want to do non stop, especially when you have your own problems in life.

Oh, but what would such a mighty, superiorly educated individual know about that, right? I bet it's not you, it's the rest of the world, right?
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#190 to #171 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
you ever heard of the ibdp International Baccalaureate Diploma Programme ? 2 weeks 20 exams all hand written worst day was exams in three different subjects. not trying to outdo you by any means just sharing the pain. 80% of your grade was the exams.

now the dumbest one i had was for history higher level where we had been studying the americas and we were given a paper for europe and the middle east and we were told to do that. an hour later queen dragonbtich comes back with the right one and then we have to do that. 3½ hours of furious handwriting.

I have a callous on my finger from writing so much so fast
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User avatar #175 to #171 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
And finally, because I cannot stress this enough.

YOUR EXPERIENCES =/= GLOBAL EXPERIENCES.

Most teenagers DON'T get sent to snobby art schools where they're taught to demand everything from the world.
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User avatar #174 to #171 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
I'm also an adult, that doesn't matter. You're still bitching as if you're 12. If it talks like it's 12 on the internet...

You choose art school, as you said. So your petition was doubly retarded since it was voluntary to put yourself through testing hell with no free time.

As I said, as students your only JOB is to learn. I don't give a **** that you want to watch a TV show. You have other priorities in order to be more than a fast food monkey.

Maybe don't send your kids to a fancy private art school. Save the money and the time wasted on ****** artwork that won't get you a good job in life.

The teachers are teaching you for most of the semester. The work at the end is pretty ******* normal in higher education. And what is the teacher's job? To teach, not to give you tests. Your tests are supposed to prove you've learned, and frankly, they're your responsibility.

You're being a matyr and a whiny bitch.

The teachers don't owe you anything more than a lecture and coursework.
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User avatar #176 to #174 - ciacheczko (12/23/2015) [-]
I chose art as high school. You don't know what my college was, surprise, it was IT. Judging **** .

There's no reasoning with you, because you just have it stuck in your mind that you are better than others, although the last time someone honestly told you was probably your mom when you were 10. I know your kind, deep down you have a lot of self-loathing which you mask as being patronising, and taking it out on students who, just as I said in my first comment, know they can't do anything about it.

But they will move on and build new, gret lives, while you will still sit on your bitter ass, not ever moving an inch further, and bitch at others are always the problem, not you. And I take joy in it.

You are the a physical manisfestation of what's wrong with education system and for all I care you should burn along with it.
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User avatar #179 to #176 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
So go ahead. Keep bitching to me about how you "never had enough free time" as a teenager and keep expecting everyone else to care. You're a grown ass adult acting like the educational system ****** you over despite 1. having the advantage to CHOOSE where you went to high school and/or did and 2. went on to become just ******* fine in the world, and did better than most in the "lazy" public high schools.
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User avatar #178 to #176 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
Except that no, you have no idea what the educational system is outside your ****** art school.

I'm a strong advocate against essentialism, which actually is what's wrong with the educational system. But to tell me that hard work isn't beneficial? **** yourself, YOU are the reason it's ****** . Because students like you bitch, and then the quality of the education suffers.

I never said I was better than others. I said I'm not a stranger to hard ******* work, and I certainly don't waste my professor's time telling them it's "unfair" to give me so much for finals.

I will assign the single final exam as required by the SCHOOL SYSTEM. You don't know the slightest thing about how that works, do you? The SCHOOL determines whether your class' curriculum is fair and balanced or not.

I could assign thirty tests. My supervisor would look at me and ask if I've gone nuts and tell me to change it.

You seem to think that teachers just naturally hate kids. Nothing's farther than the truth. I'm becoming a teacher because I'm disgusted with how kids today act towards school. If I can make even ONE child value learning and hard work so much they become a billionaire, it will be worth dealing with snobby brats like you.

And as far as not moving anywhere as a teacher... teachers make more money the longer they work, and get tenure for it.

And you think I'M being patronizing? You don't know the slightest thing about how public education works.

For all I care kids like you can just not do the work and fail. It builds character, which you clearly lack.
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#97 to #91 - drizztrocks (12/22/2015) [-]
What if he just doesn't go to college?
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User avatar #99 to #97 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
Then he can forget about doing so well on his exams now and practice saying "would you like fries with that" or find a vocation that doesn't require the ability to retain knowledge of several different areas.

If you care about your education chances are you're going to college.
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#101 to #99 - drizztrocks (12/22/2015) [-]
That's a bit absurd, everyone who thinks to go straight to some ****** retail if you don't go to college is ******* retarded and has no concept of the real world. Honestly, how many blue collar workers do you think went to college to learn how to weld, do construction, amongst other things? People in entertainment rarely end up staying in college, even if they do go to it. All college does is help you get a piece of paper that says you can do a certain job for a metric **** ton of money. Most of the time it's fairly useless unless you want to go into a medical or law field. Bill Gates is the richest human being in existence currently, he's arguably one of the more intelligent people to walk the Earth, he dropped out of college. A lot of times college can hold you back. Honestly the format of putting together tests then handing them out in big chunks does absolutely nothing for your intelligence. Colleges need to find better ways to teach their students and educate them on the fields they choose, and actually try to make college a learning experience as opposed to a boss battle for people fresh out of high-school. Our education system is **** , most countries have a horrible education system. Networking can also get you just as far in business as a college degree.
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User avatar #104 to #101 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
Also college DOES educate you on the fields you choose, and a learning experience. I'm learning an incredible amount.

The problem that makes people like you think that it's some boss battle is that it's putting that knowledge in half the time it takes you to be educated through high school, meaning more work on your shoulders faster than high school.

FINALLY, don't be pointing to Bill Gates as a reason to drop out. Even he says that most college dropouts DO end up in a ****** retail job.

Plus you're forgetting that he quit school to work on something that he ALREADY came up with. Most people drop out and then expect to have some breakthrough idea.

College is plan a.

Everything else is plan b.
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#120 to #104 - drizztrocks (12/22/2015) [-]
You're ridiculous, I refuse to believe you learning anything from printed out paper tests, College can teach you a lot of things that I won't deny, but you can learn a lot of it without sinking yourself in crippling debt, and you can learn it in a better way. I'm not stating that Bill Gates is a reason to drop out, is your reading comprehension lacking today? I'm simply saying that college is not always the route to take, you can learn plenty by NOT going to college, and you can waste a **** ton of time by actually subduing yourself in that situation. You claim that we're getting knowledge twice as fast in college (as if it's that simple, in actuality you're getting completely different knowledge at relatively the same rate just at a more advanced level with more paper work) but that just proves my point further, it's just a harder difficulty of the ****** experience of paper tests in highschool. I'm learning next to ******* nothing in highschool, none of this information I'm receiving needs to be retained except for when I take the test and apparently for when I move on to college, but I can already tell that this useless information to me, this will do nothing for me but help me get further in college, then after years of grinding and spending a ******** of money and sinking myself in debt, I'll be able to get a ****** engineering degree THEN I get to start looking for a job? Laughable. I love education, I love learning things about multiple subjects, physics, history, literature and English, but I don't want a job as a Lawyer, Doctor, anything in the Medical field, I want to act. I highly refute the idea that "College" should be considered a plan a, that's ridiculous. Only about 35 percent of the jobs that exist require a degree, that means the jobs that DON'T are in the majority. There are more jobs that don't require a degree than jobs that do, you have ample opportunities WITHOUT a college degree. If you don't want a job that falls in that 35 percentile, your MUCH better off telling college to **** off.
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User avatar #124 to #120 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
This is not to say college is for everyone. But it is to say that most people do NEED a degree to have the jobs they currently hold. Meaning college is plan a.

Bill gates would never have dropped out if he didn't already have microsoft. In fact he stayed in school until he was sure he could make microsoft the next big thing in technology.

Why? Because it's ******* stupid to drop out of college or not go without any plans for the future. That's how you end up in a bottom tier job wishing you had the money to go to college.

Finally, vocational schools are how you GET a vocational job nowadays. Those also cost money, except now you don't have federal funding. MIT will put you in a buttload of debt, too.

You might say it's ridiculous that you need a piece of paper to do a job all you want, but it's true. You cannot be an engineer, a teacher, or even a businessman without it. The chances of a business you start without an economics degree succeeding are literally 10%.

I think I'll take even a 35% chance at a job over 10%.

Hate the system all you want, but college is plan A in it.
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User avatar #122 to #120 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
Also good luck finding any jobs without a degree in the science, business, English fields.

You pretty much can't.
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User avatar #121 to #120 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
Except that you DO learn from tests. Provided the teachers aren't just teaching the test, which they are with NCLB.

Now I'm one for hating essentialism as much as the next student, but don't say kids learn nothing from written tests. Especially if those tests are essay questions to be taken home and completed.

Except I can't learn to be a teacher a 'better way.' In fact, most things that are a profession and not a vocation can't be taught outside of college.

How the **** do you think I know what in loco parentis and essentialism even are? Most of what I learned in high school also came in handy through college. I wouldn't BE in college without high school even if they let me in without graduating.

Ah, I see, you're in high school. This explains your angst. You know NOTHING of the real world nor college. College gives you internships and opens doors.

You honestly think that none of the information you're learning in high school needs to be retained? Most of those classes are there to give you a liberal education which comes in handy BIG time in the real world. To be a teacher or a doctor you NEED to be a flexible thinker, able to both solve math problems and personal problems. They're two different kinds of thinking that are being taught in high school and only in a liberal arts program in college. (which is a waste of time and money) Get what you can, while you can.

College is a plan a for anyone who wants a profession, simple. You do NOT have the same knowledge of engineering as you would going to school for it, nor do you even have the opportunity to learn.

And, what job are you looking at that's in the 35%? Most jobs through college are 70% and higher.
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User avatar #102 to #101 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
Is your reading comprehension lacking today?

"or find a vocation that doesn't require the ability to retain knowledge of several different areas" what do you think construction, welding ect is.
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User avatar #169 to #168 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
Gonna stop you at "but we have more to do in our lives than just study!"

You're a kid. Your only JOB is to sleep.

Please **** off.
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User avatar #173 to #169 - ciacheczko (12/23/2015) [-]
I didn't even ******* wrote that, you disgusting excuse of a human being.
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User avatar #177 to #173 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
I paraphrased. Maybe you'd know that if you went to a real school.

Thanks for the insult, kid. Please cry some more about how the educational system your parents/you choose to attend ****** you over.

The rest of the world is dealing with standardized testing and teachers who can't teach more than what's on the test, that's a bit more of a legitimate argument.

In fact what you are demanding is for teachers to teach only the tests and not anything else, so that you don't have to be stuck with a ton of work at the end of the semester.

I wrote ten papers in two weeks, two research papers, did two projects and memorized a 30 line poem. And that was just for one final.

Most public high schools give you five classes for an entire year, not a semester. Five end of semester things to do. What a wonderful life, and yet kids STILL bitch that it's too much.

YOUR ONLY JOB IS TO LEARN AND GROW UP AS A CHILD.

Did I mention the 30 hour workweek I have while doing finals, in order to pay my rent?

**** off.
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User avatar #180 to #177 - ciacheczko (12/23/2015) [-]
I don't play pretend like some pretentious cunts I've met in my lofe. If someone is not worth warm words, they will not receive them. I grew tired of people who pretend they are more intelligent by forming their insults into nice sentences. They are not. And someone who can directly say "you are a cunt" is worth more respect, because at least he has the balls to say it. I'm too old to play such pathetic games, especially with your kind.

Your problem is that you are a broken record. You repeat the same thing over and over again, like it's gonna make you miraculously right. Yes I heard that "5 exams" ******** , already said it wasn't the case in my school. I don't give a **** about your "most", I'm talking about what I had. But you ignore it and can't address a point, because you are not the adult you pose as.

You wrote a bunch of papers, woo-hoo. Except that I have a feeling they were all in your field that you already have expertise in, not in 20+ different ones that you learn for the first time in your life. You are unable of objective approach.

This is only what you think. Not what is correct. It is clear that someone, when you were a child yourself, didn't see the importance of having an actual childhood, whichis why you are now such a sour jackass.

And here is another proof that I am right about you just being a jackass and taking it outron students because you didn't make it in life as high as you wanted: So mighty, so smart, so educated, so enlinghtened. You seem to know everything about how each child should go through their lives and education. And yet you still can barely afford your rent. Shows what you know. I rest my case.
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User avatar #181 to #180 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
YOU CHOOSE TO GO TO THAT SCHOOL YOUR RIGHT TO COMPLAIN IS THEREFORE REVOKED.

Jesus ******* christ, I never meant anyone as spoiled and immature as you.

Your original comment was bitching about how you took too many tests. You never specified your school, so I responded along the lines of "you do realize that five exams is nothing"

You came out with the insults, acting as if I had somehow bruised your delicate ego which honestly must have been formed from your belief in the 'trauma' your high school put you through.

Except that I had no more expertise than anyone else graduating from high school. I still had to write papers my first year, and second year, and third year, and so on.

And I also had to take liberal arts curriculum courses just to ENTER the teaching program. So no, your little theory about my having not taken 20 or more different ones is wrong. That's not how college works, especially for teachers. I had to take three math classes despite being an English major, a ******* of social and humanities classes, and more art classes than I can count.

Yeah, I had projects. SO. ******* . WHAT. It's called hard work, it never hurt anyone.

I preferred to read and do homework as a kid. Nobody pressured me, my brother's ****** up now because he wasn't told more often to do his work. And, you're implying I'm sour. No, I'm just sick and tired of the constant whines teens today are making towards school.

The ONLY thing you should whine about is standardized testing and the occasional teacher who never learned how to teach thanks to a teaching shortcut that let them get their license in half the time.

You wanna know how millionaires keep their millions? By ALWAYS. ******* . WORKING. My mother's boss, who runs a private school for behaviorally challenged children, has not taken a day off in FIVE YEARS.

Free time doesn't make big bucks.

And you did not just imply that teachers "don't make it in life as high as they wanted." That is pure ******** right there, and it's condescending as **** . Nothing pisses me off more than people who think that "those who can, do. Those who can't, teach." Teaching is a WHOLE SEPARATE PROFESSION that requires you to literally give far more than you will ever receive in life.

I haven't given much thought as to what I want to do beyond teaching, sorry.

I'm in college, of course I can't afford my rent jackass. My starting salary, however, will more than cover it. My mother raised a family of 3 on it, by herself, for ****** sake.

You know nothing about me, my profession, or education in general. What's really infuriating, though, is that you somehow think you DO and are some great authority on what children should go through in school.

You did not even come close to a normal education, so what do you know? Jack **** . And your teachers also probably wanted to teach you a good lesson that art requires 12+ hours a day just to scrape by.

It isn't laziness, either. They are trying to cram a lifetime's worth of knowledge into your heads. **** testing you every couple of weeks, you need to know how to paint a perfect circle.

And now some poor teacher is going to have to listen to your ******** when your kids go to school because they're too "precious" to handle hard work.

People like you make me sick.
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User avatar #182 to #181 - ciacheczko (12/23/2015) [-]
Wow you're mad. Good.
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User avatar #183 to #182 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
And you are acting like you're still in high school, which I highly suspect to be the case.

No adult who's graduated college is this butthurt over their high school experience.

Especially if they are successful in life and have managed to get into a good school and secure a good job.

Then again, if your parents spoiled you so much as to let you choose your high school and an ART curriculum, your behavior doesn't surprise me. Someone clearly was born with a silver spoon in their mouth. Go ahead, tell me a sob story about how that's not the case and still fail to realize how very fortunate you were to even have gotten your "horrible" art school experience.

I feel so ******* sorry for your kids and the teachers who have to deal with you later in life.
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User avatar #184 to #183 - ciacheczko (12/23/2015) [-]
And you still have the nerve of calling me butthurt. This quickly got from irritating to hilarious. You're the upset one now. You're only proving me that I hit the right note.

Keep making up that convenient image of me to make yourself feel better. I know that's all you can do in your life - demean others, because you have no way of improving yourself.

After all, if I wasn't that spoiled kid you want me to be, it would mean accepting that you have been blown the **** out. Blown the **** out by a grown up, and one more succesful than you, who doesn't take your ******* that your already crumbled pride cannot take.

It seems that after so many years of taking your problems out on kids who can't fend for themselves you've gotten really bad at actual arguing with other grown ups, who won't just stand there and take your **** , didn't you? How precious.

Oh well, it's time for me to actually do things before christmas eve, cookies won't bake themselves. Have a nice day, if you still can.
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User avatar #186 to #184 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
And before I drop this and move on with my life and let you move on with yours.

The only reason I'm upset is because you seem to think teachers are the lowest of the low, who never succeeded at anything they wanted to do.

Did it ever occur to you that most of them actually WANT to teach, for the benefit of society? Yeah there's a couple who think teaching is an easy job just being overglorified babysitters. Those are the ones who **** the system up.

I realize that I could be so much more than a teacher. I could write for the new yorker or harper's, I could swing in an entirely different direction and be a doctor.

I don't want to be any of that. A doctor can't change society, half of today's young people, my own generation especially, don't enjoy reading enough to even glance at the New Yorker or Harper's. Teachers are the only ones who can truly solve many of today's problems.

Goodnight and enjoy your cookies.
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User avatar #185 to #184 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
Except that I'm not imposing my views. You're literally behaving exactly as I've described.

"Teachers are bad huurrr too much work but wait I signed up for this and now I'm a successful adult but still need someone to blame for my ****** personality"

Have you even begun to read? I'm in college. And still irritated as hell by your presumptuous behavior. You're acting like you're 12, as I have kept saying. All your talk about being big and successful doesn't mean **** compared to your personality.

I haven't even begun to be blown. You haven't said a single thing that's accurate, or even in the ballpark of being correct.

You seem to be projecting, to be honest. You WANT me to be some vile, mean teacher who never got to be what they wanted more than I want you to be some spoiled bitch.

In fact, I could even say that your dangling "haha I'm more successful than you!" success is how you look at it. I feel I'll be a success if even one of my students becomes a millionaire, as I've said. you seem to want to prove your teachers who called you out on your whiny ******** wrong.

But that's just me.

Personally, I love my generation, but it's full of entitlement that I intend to one day fix.

Oh good point, cookies. This is pointless... Don't put off wrapping those presents, either.
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#187 to #185 - ciacheczko (12/23/2015) [-]
Wow, you're so full of **** xD

You spent significant amount of words on proving me that I'm still in high school because you WANT it to be true, which basically already disqualifies you as a respectable conversation partner. Ad hominem is not a way of holding a conversation.

And where did all of that come from? From my good old memory that teachers bombarded us with ridiculous amount of tests at the end of semester. You just went and assumed I'm projecting, bitching, lying, complaining, I'll fail college and end up at McDonalds. Everything you did was patronising and repeating some worthless slogans the entire conversation. Way to go. That's how it's done by adults!

And now all you have to fend for yourself is "no u" and more repeating. And pulling the "pity me" card with sob story about how hard your life as a teacher is, followed by lying to me - and above all, yourself - how you can actually feel fullfilled by it. Sure, whatever lets you sleep at night.

Definitely not all teachers are vile and lowest of low. If anything, I'd say that the harshest and most serious ones were the best, and even back then majority of my class appreciated them the most . You, however, are lowest of low, and you have proved that countless times already.
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User avatar #170 to #169 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
job is to learn* I'm tired.

You kids bitch and moan about the tests without having any consideration for the real world.
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User avatar #172 to #170 - ciacheczko (12/23/2015) [-]
Or are you just afraid to read it because it might turn out that you are not always right?

You'd think that someone who does so much incredible work by grading tests has the capability of reading a few more paragraphs.
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User avatar #167 to #71 - motorwaffle (12/23/2015) [-]
90% of those tests are mandated by the state. Your teacher gives no ***** because they have zero control.
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User avatar #28 - motorwaffle (12/22/2015) [-]
Too bad the U.S. didn't agree to the terms of the Geneva Convention, nor do they submit to the international council that decides on war crimes.
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#43 to #28 - anon (12/22/2015) [-]
Why are you getting red for just stating a fact?

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#65 - herbolifee (12/22/2015) [-]
In a lot of cases keeping the whole class is kinda like digging your own grave. The entire class WILL hate you and make the rest of the year miserable.
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User avatar #74 to #65 - cognosceteipsum (12/22/2015) [-]
if they're childish ***** . Not that any teaches actually do this **** anyway.
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#76 to #65 - volksworgen (12/22/2015) [-]
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#77 to #76 - volksworgen (12/22/2015) [-]
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**volksworgen rolled image** The roll gods frown down on me today.
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User avatar #93 to #65 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
Not really, if you're a half decent disciplinarian.

I had a teacher that made his students feel inadequate just by walking in the room. Most kids hated the **** out of him.

Best behaved class I ever was in. Kids knew that if they ****** up, the whole class was gonna feel the pain, on top of their own for ******* up.
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User avatar #152 - drtrousersnake ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
If that was true it would be illegal for valve to punish me for painful 50 minute dota game that was over when the mid or feed sf did both.
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#54 - kanyesfishsticks ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
Do you retarded faggots really think war crime laws are applicable in this situation?
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#69 to #54 - gigabowzer (12/22/2015) [-]
yes
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#49 - rumpelstiltskinkun (12/22/2015) [-]
GIF
>when ur dad is talking **** to you
LOL
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User avatar #47 - youahippocrate (12/22/2015) [-]
I knew this about 6 years ago in highschool, Had to go to the end of my school in 2 minutes (had an unfortunate schedule making me have to either A. leave immediately and walk quickly to my locker and then walk quickly to my class or B. carry 4 periods worth of books and **** with me at for the first half of the day) Teacher decided I was wrongly disobeying but I was not going to run to my next class so that this egghead could finish his extended unimportant lesson, which he then prolonged by exclusively telling me not to leave and having an ego clash while I weighed my options whether to just ignore the apparent jail warden and take my chances that he just shuts his mouth, or be late to the biggest dickmouths class who will not let you in the classroom if you are late. Even less than a minute late. Bell rang and you were donezo.

Long story short I got ISS which is basically solitary confinement. They put you in a room for a day or two and make you do menial worksheets until you learn your lesson about obedience. Ended up missing my next class that i tried so hard not to be late to because I got pulled out of it to receive my punishment. School or jail I wonder
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#61 to #47 - smudgiemuffins ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
That's... ******* horrifying. You give teachers and administration a little power over teenagers and the school ends up looking like an authoritarian government. I have to wonder how often school looks like this, because I'm fortunate enough to have missed it completely.
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User avatar #64 to #61 - huntergriff ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
it's...like this all the time.
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User avatar #138 - smokeyrp (12/22/2015) [-]
I actually used to carry a copy of the geneva convention at school because i was the only goody two shoes at school and sometimes got wrongfully detention.
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User avatar #130 - krizz (12/22/2015) [-]
its illegal to take phones too but who gives a **** they're kids
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User avatar #85 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
Except that under in loco parentis teachers are protected from anything that doesn't violate your human rights

They can't physically maim or otherwise harm you, nor can they starve you or humiliate you.

They can do pretty much anything else a parent with a reasonable mindset would do, even if it's not constitutionally protected. The schools CAN take urine and possibly blood samples. The teacher CAN hold you after the bell rings, though their supervisor might not agree with such an action. They can mentally **** you over, not a single educational malpractice suit has gone through. Pretty much as long as they don't violate the rule that says they must do everything in reasonable power to ensure you don't come to any physical harm (ie, if they leave the class and you break a leg, they're ****** , but if you trip on air they're fine) they can do as they wish.

Until you are 18, your teachers have the power to act as your parents during school hours. And there's nothing you little ******* can do about it.

Which is why I'm glad I'm in college. I pay to stay in class for exactly one and a half hours. And because I pay for it, I can leave whenever I want for whatever reason I want, and I only need to keep my grades in mind as a repercussion. College is great, except for the stress.
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User avatar #82 - gongthehawkeye (12/22/2015) [-]
I hate when teachers see that there's only like 4 minutes of class left and they start speeding through the rest of the notes and blasting you with all this info faster than you can retain it/write it down instead of finding a good place to stop for next time.
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User avatar #88 to #82 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
Audio recording tape. If it worked for college lectures in the 90s it'll work for high school kids in the 10s.
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User avatar #90 to #88 - gongthehawkeye (12/22/2015) [-]
Back in high school you weren't allowed to record the teacher or class in any way otherwise your device got taken away and you'd have to go through this whole legal ******** process with the local cops involved. At my campus it's up to the professor whether they're comfortable letting students record lectures or not (they'll put whether they're cool with it or not on their syllabus).
Most of them say no. Again, breaking this rule results in legal actions and **** .
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User avatar #95 to #90 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
Well that sucks. I can understand why, though. Kids would just skip school if they abused the privilege, and you know how schools are. Instead of making a rule that you needed to be there with your listening device, and actively tell the teacher you're using it, they just make it banned.

Eh, I'd be fine with it as long as I wasn't being secretly monitored. Although recently phone evidence has been used in cases against teachers who are actively being malicious towards students with no problem. It isn't really an illegal thing to do if the person is making a crime.
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User avatar #94 to #90 - gongthehawkeye (12/22/2015) [-]
And the reason it worked in the 90s is because there was no social media to post this **** to back then. But then comes the 2000s and people now have the potential to post pretty much anything online, so the schools usually enforce this policy for the teacher's benefit.
I remember back in high school that the teachers would get all antsy whenever the student had to take a picture of something in the classroom and would have to make sure they weren't in the frame at all. This carries on until you graduated and weren't considered a student anymore.
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User avatar #96 to #94 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
Pretty hard to post a cassette tape to the internet...

But a teacher makes sure they aren't in the frame probably to avoid their image being spread around with a rumor that gets them fired. Even tenured teachers have to fear it.

Though I still don't see what the big deal is.
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User avatar #98 to #96 - gongthehawkeye (12/22/2015) [-]
It's a mix of you can never be too careful and the whole not only are you losing your job, but your reputation is tarnished (and a reputation is much harder to rebuild than a job, just look at people who get accused of **** like rape and how they end up having to move even after being proven innocent).
Also when you say recording device, 90% of people are just going to default to their phones or whatever because of this age of convenience as opposed to getting a cassette tape and using that.
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User avatar #100 to #98 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
Which is why you ban phones in class.

Although at my high school phones were more of a concern in regards to texting. I don't remember any teachers making a big deal over being recorded or even being paranoid about it.
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#80 - dgurevich (12/22/2015) [-]
There are no rules in war
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User avatar #72 - fireskeleton (12/22/2015) [-]
I have a feeling that once they respected that, they would also stop the crap in Syria.

It all comes down to philosophy, like it or not.
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#45 - anon (12/22/2015) [-]
Geneva doesn't really apply. With the exception of Detroit I'm not sure schools typically qualify as war zones.
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User avatar #26 - nudybooty (12/22/2015) [-]
You know, technically speaking it actually is illegal. They can't physically stop you from walking out the door,
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