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Noobanon (09/25/2015) [-] 
A a conscript from a country right next to Russia, this scares me a bit.
But then again, they've tried and failed before.
Pic related, its me.
But then again, they've tried and failed before.
Pic related, its me.
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iqequalzero (10/01/2015) [-] "When you gotta do army stuff but philosophic musings is life."
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PlagueDoctor (09/26/2015) [-] Why does this scare you? It's the 9th of May Victory Day parade held for 70yrs in a row now
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postalmate (09/26/2015) [-] Oh don't worry, this time there is no Stalin to execute competent officers by the hundred in his "great purge" and the conscripts are not from the warm parts of the Union with no winter survival training.
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caseris (09/26/2015) [-] Not to get you riled up or ruin your joke, but there's a good reason Finland won the war against the soviets.
You see, Stalin wasn't too nice of a guy, and before that war decided to purge most high ranking officers to evade treason or an uprising (those with any skill or brain were thus eliminated) meaning the armies Finland fought were so disorganized, without supplies or proper command (such as no winter clothing), that it was no surprise Finland won.
Of course, Staling quickly realised this and learned from his mistake.
Right now, with wars fought by drones and airstrikes, i doubt Finland will stand any chance against Russia alone, but then again, i doubt the world is just going to stay and watch as Finland is being invaded.
You see, Stalin wasn't too nice of a guy, and before that war decided to purge most high ranking officers to evade treason or an uprising (those with any skill or brain were thus eliminated) meaning the armies Finland fought were so disorganized, without supplies or proper command (such as no winter clothing), that it was no surprise Finland won.
Of course, Staling quickly realised this and learned from his mistake.
Right now, with wars fought by drones and airstrikes, i doubt Finland will stand any chance against Russia alone, but then again, i doubt the world is just going to stay and watch as Finland is being invaded.
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sylaz (09/26/2015) [-]
Are you kidding me?
The Russian ground forces is in just as much dissray as it was during the purges.
Due to widespread corruption and hazing. Infact it's so bad that conscripts are being sold into sexual slavery while the senior staff is looking the other way, or in some cases orders it. Then you have a air force, which on paper looks good. But in reality, is rusting away, as they lack spare parts and simple maintaince.
Lastly you have alot of equipment, which is over 25 years old.
While it is still capable weaponry, it is widely outdated compared to the western standards.
The Russian ground forces is in just as much dissray as it was during the purges.
Due to widespread corruption and hazing. Infact it's so bad that conscripts are being sold into sexual slavery while the senior staff is looking the other way, or in some cases orders it. Then you have a air force, which on paper looks good. But in reality, is rusting away, as they lack spare parts and simple maintaince.
Lastly you have alot of equipment, which is over 25 years old.
While it is still capable weaponry, it is widely outdated compared to the western standards.
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caseris (09/26/2015) [-] Just so you know, i'm not Russian, which you seem to be implying, i'm Dutch.
to answer your retort, yes, i know the Russian military is far from as great as they look, but even putting all those factors in, Finland on it's own will succumb thanks to the amount of Russian manpower, this does not imply i'm predicting it as an easy war.
to answer your retort, yes, i know the Russian military is far from as great as they look, but even putting all those factors in, Finland on it's own will succumb thanks to the amount of Russian manpower, this does not imply i'm predicting it as an easy war.
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makethingsworse (09/26/2015) [-] Hey man, this might be out of the blue, but I hope you stay safe. I don't know you, but I truly hope you never have to use that rifle. Stay safe. Stay smart.
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theplanetearth (09/26/2015) [-] Don't worry NATO has your back. Unless you're in one of those ****** eastern European countries.
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ghostofnignaz (09/25/2015) [-] >tried and failed
lmao they kinda succeeded, the only finn that shoot some russians where simo häjä and without the tremendous help from sweden you'd speak russian today.
Daily reminder that Finland has been rightfully swedish clay for more than 500 years.
lmao they kinda succeeded, the only finn that shoot some russians where simo häjä and without the tremendous help from sweden you'd speak russian today.
Daily reminder that Finland has been rightfully swedish clay for more than 500 years.
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flyingsquid (09/26/2015) [-] I find if fun every time a Fin complain that Swedish people can't understand how it is losing terretory to Russia. Well i have just one awnser for that one. Offcorse we do. We lost Finland to Russia.
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forsakensaint (09/26/2015) [-] This is a huge troll, but.. You do mean, that thanks to the Nazi Germany, our allies at the time and their machinery, AA-weaponry they gave us and showed how to use? You Swedish ***** dont have anything anymore, except muslims.
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sphincterface (09/26/2015) [-] Lol, are you actually trying to say that Sweden actually fought in the war? Check your facts buddy, you guys bent over and got ****** in the ass like the pacifist faggots you are.
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noburt (09/25/2015) [-]
At least if would be a army filled with U.S.S.R. crap.
I did not see a single T-14 or T-15.
Quite a few U.S.S.R. air vehicles.
They have a large army, and a lot of money in it. But with how Russia is going right now. I don't see them as large of a threat to the world as many people say it is. The only thing I'd be worried about is nukes.
I did not see a single T-14 or T-15.
Quite a few U.S.S.R. air vehicles.
They have a large army, and a lot of money in it. But with how Russia is going right now. I don't see them as large of a threat to the world as many people say it is. The only thing I'd be worried about is nukes.
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thegamegestapo (09/25/2015) [-] "How odd, Sergei. That flock of birds is starting to look like the Russian Air Force!"
-Noobanon, June 4, 2017
-Noobanon, June 4, 2017
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EdwardNigma 
(09/25/2015) [-] Yeah its pretty easy to mistake military aircraft for birds.
One time I thought I saw a pelican. I never saw my mother again.
One time I thought I saw a pelican. I never saw my mother again.
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jettom (09/26/2015) [-] Finland was HIGHLY pro-Nazism and Pro-Germany prior to World War 1. Hadn't they been part of "Russian sphere of influence" during the treaty between Russia and Germany, they would have allied with Germany most certainly.
Stalin realized this was a threat to St. Petersburg which is ******* close to the Finnish border, so he decided to take the part of Finland close to St. Petersburg. It wasn't in order to take over Finland, at the time Finland didn't have a lot of valuable **** for Russia, though if they allied with Germany the Germans would suddenly have a huge landmass bordering Russia in the north, with their territories in Eastern Europe as well they could launch a blitzkrieg literally across all of the European-Russian border, which would have left Soviet destroyed, France-style.
Finland, having recently seceded from Russia (1917 I think, this is straight from my head and is most likely 100% wrong, but around that year) wasn't too keen on giving Russia back Finnish territories, as the Finns at the time had just gone through 500 years or so under Finland, and another 100 years or so under Russia.
Russia naturally knew what this would mean to their side. Finland was likely to ally with Germany, and Germany would get access to the Finnish-Russian border. Stalin realized that Finland or England was going to capture or impose some "Defended Neutrality" on Norway very soon, (which was the correct assessment as both Hitler and Churchill had definite plans on taking over Norway) and sent troops into Finland, attempting to copy the German blitzkrieg. Stalin failed, naturally, as the Soviet generals could only dream of having the experience, expertise and knowledge the Germans had (side effect of Stalin killing anyone with the mind of a tactician) and a bloody war ensued where the Finnish were winning on one front (the one front the Russians wanted to take) yet losing on all other. However with an influx of support from "Volunteers" from Scandinavia lead to new expertise and experience on the Finnish side, who then decided to use ski in their war against the Russians. The result was devastating and the Finns were pushing on all fronts. Yet they knew it was futile and decided to surrender conditionally and give Russia the territory they were after.
So no, Russia's goal wasn't all of Finland, it was to scare Finland into submission, which they succeeded in, and to keep them away from Germany, which they also succeeded with. (The Finns were certain the Germans would assist them in their war against the Soviet Union. Even if not officially, the Germans didn't, which quickly killed any pro-nazism Finland had.) So the Russians won a pyrrhic victory.
At the same time, the Finns won the war yet lost the battle. Russia was the laughing stock of the world, having failed so miserably in the winter war, despite securing victory. What was expected to last for 5 days ended up lasting 3 months.
Just a history bachelor sharing some insight on the whole thing.
Stalin realized this was a threat to St. Petersburg which is ******* close to the Finnish border, so he decided to take the part of Finland close to St. Petersburg. It wasn't in order to take over Finland, at the time Finland didn't have a lot of valuable **** for Russia, though if they allied with Germany the Germans would suddenly have a huge landmass bordering Russia in the north, with their territories in Eastern Europe as well they could launch a blitzkrieg literally across all of the European-Russian border, which would have left Soviet destroyed, France-style.
Finland, having recently seceded from Russia (1917 I think, this is straight from my head and is most likely 100% wrong, but around that year) wasn't too keen on giving Russia back Finnish territories, as the Finns at the time had just gone through 500 years or so under Finland, and another 100 years or so under Russia.
Russia naturally knew what this would mean to their side. Finland was likely to ally with Germany, and Germany would get access to the Finnish-Russian border. Stalin realized that Finland or England was going to capture or impose some "Defended Neutrality" on Norway very soon, (which was the correct assessment as both Hitler and Churchill had definite plans on taking over Norway) and sent troops into Finland, attempting to copy the German blitzkrieg. Stalin failed, naturally, as the Soviet generals could only dream of having the experience, expertise and knowledge the Germans had (side effect of Stalin killing anyone with the mind of a tactician) and a bloody war ensued where the Finnish were winning on one front (the one front the Russians wanted to take) yet losing on all other. However with an influx of support from "Volunteers" from Scandinavia lead to new expertise and experience on the Finnish side, who then decided to use ski in their war against the Russians. The result was devastating and the Finns were pushing on all fronts. Yet they knew it was futile and decided to surrender conditionally and give Russia the territory they were after.
So no, Russia's goal wasn't all of Finland, it was to scare Finland into submission, which they succeeded in, and to keep them away from Germany, which they also succeeded with. (The Finns were certain the Germans would assist them in their war against the Soviet Union. Even if not officially, the Germans didn't, which quickly killed any pro-nazism Finland had.) So the Russians won a pyrrhic victory.
At the same time, the Finns won the war yet lost the battle. Russia was the laughing stock of the world, having failed so miserably in the winter war, despite securing victory. What was expected to last for 5 days ended up lasting 3 months.
Just a history bachelor sharing some insight on the whole thing.
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anon (09/26/2015) [-]
Okay nice bit of info there. "But" that part of the Russians just trying to scare the Finns into submission and pushing the border, I don't buy it.
After all the historians and veterans I've talked to, it was Stalins goal to retake all of Finland to the Russian mainland, just like it was before the tsars fell.
Finland was a neutral country, a very smal army, they had nothing of interest of expanding their territory. All they asked for was peace and independence.
Hitler in the begging had nothing of interest in Finland either, it wasn't until after the winter war Hitler saw potential of having Finland as an allied in there assult on the Soviets.
If the Germans wanted Finland in their upcoming assault on the Soviets before the winter war, they would have aided the Finns already then.
After all the historians and veterans I've talked to, it was Stalins goal to retake all of Finland to the Russian mainland, just like it was before the tsars fell.
Finland was a neutral country, a very smal army, they had nothing of interest of expanding their territory. All they asked for was peace and independence.
Hitler in the begging had nothing of interest in Finland either, it wasn't until after the winter war Hitler saw potential of having Finland as an allied in there assult on the Soviets.
If the Germans wanted Finland in their upcoming assault on the Soviets before the winter war, they would have aided the Finns already then.
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jettom (09/26/2015) [-] Germany didn't add Finland to their arsenal due to the treaty they made with the Soviet Union where they "divided" Europe between themself. Russia was quite insistent on Finland being part of the Soviet sphere of influence. And because even if 60% of Finland was pro-nazism, they weren't pro "Let's succumb to Germany".
Look, War isn't video games. There's very, very few leaders in the past century that has had the "I must take over X in order to increase my borders!" mentality. Finland had literally nothing of value except a huge border towards Northern Russia.
Look, War isn't video games. There's very, very few leaders in the past century that has had the "I must take over X in order to increase my borders!" mentality. Finland had literally nothing of value except a huge border towards Northern Russia.
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widar (09/25/2015) [-]
"Finland ceded territory representing 11% of its land area and 30% of its economy to the Soviet Union.[44] Soviet losses were heavy, and the country's international reputation suffered.[45] While the Soviet Union did not conquer all Finland, Soviet gains somewhat exceeded their pre-war demands."
Just gonna quote this from Wikipedia. Yeah, the Soviets ****** up pretty hard, but they still won in the end. It just cost them much more than anticipated.
Just gonna quote this from Wikipedia. Yeah, the Soviets ****** up pretty hard, but they still won in the end. It just cost them much more than anticipated.
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dalarna (09/25/2015) [-] Are you saying the Soviets won, when Finland manage to fight of the aggressive invader, outnumbered 10 to 1 and keeping their independence as a democracy and a free nation?
Maybe on the "Paper" the soviets won...
But even if the Finns did lose soil, money and lives, they manage to go out as "Victors" by keeping independence and freedom against those odds. And against such an enemy, the victory is even greater.
Maybe on the "Paper" the soviets won...
But even if the Finns did lose soil, money and lives, they manage to go out as "Victors" by keeping independence and freedom against those odds. And against such an enemy, the victory is even greater.
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gerfox (09/26/2015) [-]
The numbers doesnt matter. The only thing that matters is what the terms of the peace were. And the terms of the peace was that the Soviets won and gained territory. Sure, they lost a ******* of troops - but so what? Soviet could replace the men they lost, and Finland needed every single one. That's what Soviet did against Germany. The Germans were killing heaps of them, but they kept on coming - and the Germans couldn't replace the men they lost and thus the Red Army swarmed into Germany like ants to sugar.
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barakakaka ONLINE (09/25/2015) [-] >Trigger Discipline
>Boots pretty well polished
>Uniform on point
>Pulling security even while taking a picture, watching for enemy snipers
-Not having black box on his eyes
Operator/10 would be battle buddies with.
>Boots pretty well polished
>Uniform on point
>Pulling security even while taking a picture, watching for enemy snipers
-Not having black box on his eyes
Operator/10 would be battle buddies with.
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capps (09/26/2015) [-] Sweden and Finland has a deal that if they were to join NATO they have to do it together. If I remember correctly Russia is Finland's biggest trading (or one of) partner and if Finland joins NATO Russia will sanction them. Sooo Sweden and Finland will not join NATO until they feel an immediate threat or Finland find trade elsewhere.
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communistutopia (09/26/2015) [-] Finland is already running out of money thanks to those Ukraine sanctions.
Russia doesn't allow imports of finnish goods atm.
Russia doesn't allow imports of finnish goods atm.
