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TU FORGIVE THE TERRORISTS IS UP Tll GUI).
BUT TO SEND THEM Til HIM IS UP TO ME
VLADIMIR PUTIN
BUT TO SEND THEM Til HIM IS UP TO ME
VLADIMIR PUTIN
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itsapirateslife [OP](11/19/2015) [+] (5 replies)
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As some people pointed out, he didn't actually say this. I didn't know at the time i posted this. Sorry guys, I wish it was true too
nation.foxnews.com/2015/11/17/putin-forgive-terrorists-god-send-them-him-me
www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/putin-on-terrorism-to-forgive-them-is-up-to-god-but-to-send-them-to-him-is-up-to-me
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/11/18/fox-news-fail-vladimir-putin-quote-russian_n_8592496.html
nation.foxnews.com/2015/11/17/putin-forgive-terrorists-god-send-them-him-me
www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/putin-on-terrorism-to-forgive-them-is-up-to-god-but-to-send-them-to-him-is-up-to-me
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/11/18/fox-news-fail-vladimir-putin-quote-russian_n_8592496.html
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mondominiman (11/19/2015) [-] Is that not normal? A gallon of water a day is good, right?
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anon (11/19/2015) [-]
Uhm no, i really suggest reading into what a caliphate is and how muslims ought to see it. IS announced the calpihate which means that any muslim that pleads allegiance to the caliphe, in this case Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, has to go to the calpihate and fight from there, the Paris attacks were carried out by frustrated lone wolves who were prohibited from traveling to the calpihate by Western authorities, they saw this as a way to indirectly help IS, IS encourages this but does not feel like this is their focus. Al-Qaida, where Is originated from, never declared a calpihate because they never actually had a state. what IS wants is (and yes this is true) to unite the muslim world under a calpihate which follows Sharia rule, destroy Istanbul (In the Qu'ran called constantinople" fight the army of Rome under command of the anti-christ on the planes around Aleppo untill the mujahadeen (IS in this case) only have 5000 warriors left, at that point Jesus will return as the second prophet and announce Allah's will in the apocalypse. There's a lot more to it but this is the essention. IS sees anyone who does not follow the Qor'an in their way as a defector, that is why so many have traveled to Syria. They value fighting in their holy land a lot more than bombing in the West. Think about it all you want but IS is a lot less dangerous to the west than, say, Al-Qaida.
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sakagamitomoyo (11/19/2015) [-] The idea is killed as soon as the last person carrying it dies.
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sakagamitomoyo (11/19/2015) [-] Carpet bombing combined with sending everyone looking even remotely foreign in exile.
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alphagex (11/19/2015) [-] When i said ''if only it was that easy my friend'' i did not meant on the way to get rid of them but to be able to kill an idea.Even if you manage to kill every single terrorist alive at the moment the idea will still be there new brainwashed lunatic will still take the reins of that crazed idea.
Unless you got a time machine and kill every single muslim related lore that made their religion there really isn't any way.
best we can do is be more vigilant and raise our security up
Unless you got a time machine and kill every single muslim related lore that made their religion there really isn't any way.
best we can do is be more vigilant and raise our security up
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sakagamitomoyo (11/19/2015) [-] Well I don't think that would work either to be hones. Someone said those who erase history is doomed to repeat it. If we just burn muslim texts the ideas would just take a new form, but if we supplement the old texts with more modern idealogies it might work
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shyyguy (11/19/2015) [-] Here, I guess www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pick+your+brain
I didn't intend for there to be one, just making a dumb joke.
I didn't intend for there to be one, just making a dumb joke.
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hanklecram (11/19/2015) [-] hopefully we can one day have the ideas fight over people rather than vice-versa
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herparderpington (11/19/2015) [-] terrorism has been around for centuries
What we need to do is kill the leaders. That way there will be inner fighting and the problem will solve itself
What we need to do is kill the leaders. That way there will be inner fighting and the problem will solve itself
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herparderpington (11/19/2015) [-] Do you honestly think bin laden was the only man they had as a leader?
Besides it worked for the US they killed sadam and those other dictators and now there is inner fighting all over their countries.
Why wouldn't it work agaisnt ISIS
Besides it worked for the US they killed sadam and those other dictators and now there is inner fighting all over their countries.
Why wouldn't it work agaisnt ISIS
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herparderpington (11/19/2015) [-] You have a point but still
If there's no strong men left to take the throne
the weaklings will fight for it and their interests
eventually if this happens isis will split
and then those parts will fight amongst themsleves
eventually the whole thing will be to weak to defend itself
all we need to do is cause a "civil war" inside their organization.
If there's no strong men left to take the throne
the weaklings will fight for it and their interests
eventually if this happens isis will split
and then those parts will fight amongst themsleves
eventually the whole thing will be to weak to defend itself
all we need to do is cause a "civil war" inside their organization.
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alphagex (11/19/2015) [-] You are talking as we are talking about descent normal human who defend their country from a war proper trained soldier.No ..those are crazed expendable brainwashed zealot cult like fanatic...leader or not any of them can be...best we can hope for is maximize our security and stay vigilant that it.
Remember those..things are not human they are ready to behead you for drawing their so called ''prohet'' Mohamed you can't apply proper human logic to them.
Remember those..things are not human they are ready to behead you for drawing their so called ''prohet'' Mohamed you can't apply proper human logic to them.
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herparderpington (11/19/2015) [-] Then we must brainwash them
By now the CIA must have a lot of techniques they even took some from the nazis after ww2
By now the CIA must have a lot of techniques they even took some from the nazis after ww2
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alphagex (11/19/2015) [-] we can't brainwash them lol.Since they are born they are ''forced'' to believe muslim faith sure the regular one are not so bad..but then some people take to extreme levels once they are into that state they are too far gone.
Unless we can go back in time and find a type of solution we are sealed with this faith. This is one of the very few intelligent and mature conversation i ever had on fj after years being on this site
Unless we can go back in time and find a type of solution we are sealed with this faith. This is one of the very few intelligent and mature conversation i ever had on fj after years being on this site
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herparderpington (11/19/2015) [-] It seems there's only one way then
Unfortunately we must be forced to kill everyone (maybe not the children who are too young to remember we can spare those).
I'm pretty sure there's a better solution but I cannot see it
Thank you same here you not only reveal your opinion but you also argument it with logic. The same cannot be said for a large portion of the internet.
Unfortunately we must be forced to kill everyone (maybe not the children who are too young to remember we can spare those).
I'm pretty sure there's a better solution but I cannot see it
Thank you same here you not only reveal your opinion but you also argument it with logic. The same cannot be said for a large portion of the internet.
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anon (11/19/2015) [-]
There's a really small chance that this will happen again in our lifetime, and IS isn't going to be around for long if the West uses a bit of sense. All Muslims both Sunni and Shia believe a calpihate is essential to their religion, the Qur'an says those who do not join the caliphate are "ignorant" and won't join Allah in the afterlife. This poses a big dilemaa for muslims, if IS does succeed and everything the Qur'an predicts is going to happen (the islamic book of revelations) those who did not join IS are on the wrong side of Islam, meaning they won't go to heaven. IS established the caliphate. The muslims that left for Syria/Iraq believe this caliphate is a legit one and go there in order to reach heaven, even if they die in the fighting they are not considered "ignorant".
The majority of the muslim world does not recognise IS as a caliphate because:
-IS uses violence to unite Islam
-A caliphate can only be established if the muslim world is united in peace
-the Qur'an allows violence against "crusaders" but not those who intend to do no harm, IS killed unarmed aid workers and journalists.
So in turn IS considers these people to be defectors from the Qur'an and thus Allah himself, unlike heathens who do not understand Islam they are considered people who turned their backs towards Allah, allowing them to kill and enslave.
The majority of the muslim world does not recognise IS as a caliphate because:
-IS uses violence to unite Islam
-A caliphate can only be established if the muslim world is united in peace
-the Qur'an allows violence against "crusaders" but not those who intend to do no harm, IS killed unarmed aid workers and journalists.
So in turn IS considers these people to be defectors from the Qur'an and thus Allah himself, unlike heathens who do not understand Islam they are considered people who turned their backs towards Allah, allowing them to kill and enslave.
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obviousxplains (11/18/2015) [-] when it was US vs Russia:
god damn, im terrified, obama is too much of a pussy and putin scares me.
when its US & Russia vs ISIS:
thank god putin is so awesome that he makes up for obama.
god damn, im terrified, obama is too much of a pussy and putin scares me.
when its US & Russia vs ISIS:
thank god putin is so awesome that he makes up for obama.
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heartlessrobot (11/18/2015) [-] Obabo might be a puss, but all he has to do is hide behind the military.
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pocketstooheavy (11/18/2015) [-] It's not that Obama is weak, it's just that his country is weak. If Obama does ANYTHING the entire country will be mad.
If he puts boots on the ground, all conservatives AND liberals will complain that he's war mongering or "BRING OUR TROOPS HOME HURRR".
He can't win. America as a country has been coddled too much. Russia hasn't therefore they look stronger and Putin is able to do these things.
If he puts boots on the ground, all conservatives AND liberals will complain that he's war mongering or "BRING OUR TROOPS HOME HURRR".
He can't win. America as a country has been coddled too much. Russia hasn't therefore they look stronger and Putin is able to do these things.
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ronyx (11/19/2015) [-] True, América is divided. Heavily divided. I remember when Bush was still president, people were screaming to "bring our troops home" now people are mad because Obama isn't doing much besides air support. People were blaming bush for being a war mongering asshole, but they also **** on Obama for practically keeping the country out of wars like Afghanistan.
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somuchfreedom (11/19/2015) [-] he hasn't kept us out of **** , we are still in afghanistan, we got involved in libya, we are involved in syria
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anon (11/19/2015) [-]
The problem America has is that it doesn't understand Islam, nor does it understand politics. After the invasion of Iraq Hussein was put out of power, his Sunni srmy was also disbanded, the army did not really support Hussein that much at all. Im sure that it doenst surprise you that unemployment made the ex soldiers really angry, they didn't get paid anymore and they didn't recieve any compensation because they fought for Hussein. (The turth is that they really didn't care for Hussein) a part of those soldiers joined Iraqi's Al-Qaida. The US fought them with the help of many Sunni tribes, who in turn were promised political power in the local and state government. The leader of Al-Qaida in Iraq was killed but in 2010 a Shia backed president was chosen and he didn't give sunni tribe leaders any substantial power, in fact he even inprisoned important Sunni leaders. So you have ex-soldiers with no income and no representation ruled by s government that in no way cares about you. What was left of Al-Qaida became IS, the ex-soldiers fueled with hate of the US and the Shia government joined them because Is cares sbout Sunnism. Conquering the Sunni part of Iraq was easy, the Iraqi army consisted of Shia's so they could not stop IS in any part of Iraq where Sunni's lived. The Sunni ex-soldiers had the experience from fighting either against or for Al-Qaida, making it a lot easier to succesfully conquer cities. The Iraqi army would flee easily.
I hope you can understand it, if not you can ask me and I could maybe clarify more of it.
I hope you can understand it, if not you can ask me and I could maybe clarify more of it.
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somuchfreedom (11/19/2015) [-] to say that the worlds biggest political power doesn't understand politics is disingenuous, to say it doesn't understand middle eastern regional politics is more accurate. And your statement about the Iraq army not supporting houssain isn't really true, there may havd been dissenters, but by and large they supported him because as any good dictator does, he made sure to put loyal men in key positions, and in a regime like his, the military always gets paid first, he was the one putting food on their families tables and shoes on their childrens feet. In a region with stong economic and employment issues, people are loyal to the ones that provide them a way of supporting themselves and their families, and for the army, that was saddam
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makethingsworse (11/19/2015) [-] I feel as though are missing a glaring difference between these two societies. No one gets to tell Putin no. People that tell Putin something Putin doesn't want to hear generally sto showing up around the neighborhood. While our Congress ***** everything up Putin is getting **** done simply because there really isn't anything to stop him.
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somuchfreedom (11/19/2015) [-] Our country is not weak. We respect decision over indecision, even if we don't like the path you choose, we respect you actually committing to something. If you think we are weak, look at how many people we have killed just being on the fence bitch.
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letting 
(11/19/2015) [-] So not wanting to spend billions of dollars, lose thousands of american soldiers, and send soliders BACK into the middle east after the war in Iraq is finally over is being a "pussy"?
People complain when America gets involved in everything, people complain when America doesn't get involved. We're already offering tons of support and bombing the **** out of ISIS. Why not let Russia, France, Syria, Iran, England, all all of those other countries use their military strength for once?
America is not the police for the world. If ISIS bombs us, I'm sure we would declare war the next day. But for right now, I think he's making the right decision. The decision that keeps the economy stable, and our men and women in the armed forces alive.
People complain when America gets involved in everything, people complain when America doesn't get involved. We're already offering tons of support and bombing the **** out of ISIS. Why not let Russia, France, Syria, Iran, England, all all of those other countries use their military strength for once?
America is not the police for the world. If ISIS bombs us, I'm sure we would declare war the next day. But for right now, I think he's making the right decision. The decision that keeps the economy stable, and our men and women in the armed forces alive.
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obviousxplains (11/19/2015) [-] Its almost like he's been a pussy in ways other than refusing to go to war.
Like not standing up to environmental activists.over the keystone pipline.
Not saying anything bad about the thugs and rioters in the blacklivesmatter movement.
Not calling out russia
Specifically saying isis is contained the day before the paris attacks.
He doesnt know what hes doing and hes a pussy
Like not standing up to environmental activists.over the keystone pipline.
Not saying anything bad about the thugs and rioters in the blacklivesmatter movement.
Not calling out russia
Specifically saying isis is contained the day before the paris attacks.
He doesnt know what hes doing and hes a pussy
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biater (11/18/2015) [-]
nation.foxnews.com/2015/11/17/putin-forgive-terrorists-god-send-them-him-me best I could find.
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stalecheerios (11/19/2015) [-]
It's from it's always sunny in phliadelphia
youtu.be/DQW3KwRtZj4
youtu.be/DQW3KwRtZj4
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gedoushinken (11/19/2015) [-] Sorry, I don't have the original video. But this is where I got it from:
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thepizzadevourer (11/18/2015) [-] Just remember, Putin's probably not fighting terrorists out of humanitarian love. He's gonna do it in a way that puts him in a position of power, just like Syria. Also remember that, though he seems like a nice reactionary figure to our hyper politically correct culture, really does endorse actual oppression of minorities and such.
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minibeep (11/19/2015) [-]
most syrians like assad. thate are actually demonstrations where they demonstrate their love for assad with pictures of assad smiling and stuff.
america only want to destroy assad to create an oil pipeline through syria that will allow america to have more influence over europe and russia to loose influence.
all this suffering have been leading to that.
and it will have been for nothing is russia saves syria.
america only want to destroy assad to create an oil pipeline through syria that will allow america to have more influence over europe and russia to loose influence.
all this suffering have been leading to that.
and it will have been for nothing is russia saves syria.
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ninjaspartan (11/19/2015) [-] In a world where acceptance leads to a burning capital and simply building a fence against bad neighbors is automatically discrimination, I think that's the last thing I'll bother considering anymore.
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ninjaspartan (11/19/2015) [-] No one in their right mind decides to wake up and blow innocent people up, either. What, are you implying we should "accept" ISIS? Like that's going to stop them from blowing cities up in the name of allah? A bit too little too late for that sentiment. Don't even try to make it sound like its our fault, that is unforgivable under any circumstance, period. Accepting the Syrian refugees is what allowed them to sneak into Paris and god knows where else in the first place. If we have to ditch PC ideals in order to keep that from happening anymore, I don't give a **** which little special snowflake it offends.
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makethingsworse (11/19/2015) [-] Yeah, everyone thinks Putin is so bad ass now... wait till he tries to take Syria. Just you ******* wait. Putin won't be nearly as cool once the draft starts.
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legitimately (11/19/2015) [-] Spoiler: I hope that's not Russia you're portraying Stannis's army as because they got ******* slaughtered
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Javapenguin (11/19/2015) [-] He was the guy telling us we need to stay out of Syria.
I honestly doubt he did.
I honestly doubt he did.
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winterconcerten (11/19/2015) [-] Putin never said this. Was big in the news that the reporter who said it made it up.
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elaxx (11/19/2015) [-]
Nah, she just took it from Facebook without checking.
twitter.com/RemiMaalouf/status/666972960406814721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
twitter.com/RemiMaalouf/status/666972960406814721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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winterconcerten (11/19/2015) [-] Made it up and took it from facebook without checking is kinda the same thing nowadays.
