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severian (12/24/2015) [+] (10 replies)
I spent longer than I'd like to admit typing out a serious response about my opinions on the movie before I took a closer look at the description and got the joke. I should go get some sleep.
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incrediblemrknew (12/25/2015) [-] Watched the movie yesterday, still respect the lone badass storm trooper more than anyone else in the film.
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nibbero (12/24/2015) [-] The originals made some references to Hitler, but this one uped the anti.
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bionicpanda (12/24/2015) [-] implying the original alvin and the chipmunks didn't make obscure references to Hitler and the 3rd Reich
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shieeetposter (12/24/2015) [-] Actual spoiler: I nearly burst out laughing during that First Order speech. That scene was straight out of Nazi propaganda.
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shieeetposter (12/24/2015) [-] I thought he was talking about Star Wars? That seems way more likely to make Hitler references than Andrew and the Squirrels.
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piratedangel (12/24/2015) [-] This was disappointing. I thought you were commenting on the Hungry Games.
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mynameisnotmike (12/25/2015) [-] i laughed audibly in the theater when they just "noped" away
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vacillantfall (12/24/2015) [-] if han and leia are white how did he come out a ****** ?
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flyingflufferflow ONLINE (12/24/2015) [-] They should have never even had him take his helmet off. Completely ruined his bad guy persona
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blobness (12/24/2015) [-]
No, seriously, it is the point. Kylo Ren's entire character is that he's an angsty, piece of **** teenager with dangerous powers and a pair of somewhat dysfunctional parents. I'm not going to argue that he's particularly well written, but you are supposed to look at his face and go "what the **** , THAT'S what people are afraid of?
Also I'm pretty sure his helmet has a set of speakers that just blares Crawling 24/7 or whatever the **** timescale they use in Star Wars land.
Also I'm pretty sure his helmet has a set of speakers that just blares Crawling 24/7 or whatever the **** timescale they use in Star Wars land.
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sudminator (12/25/2015) [-] Maul was cool, thats it. Kylo has "some" depth of character, the movie as a whole just introduced the main players, for the sequels to expand.
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sudminator (12/24/2015) [-] Same, but I like to think thats the point, he's just a ****** up kid. He takes the mask off after the girl taunts him, (a point many people disliked) thinking (in character) he can be intimidating without it, only to show what pussy he is without the mask to hide behind
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thebaconstripman (12/24/2015) [-] The first thing I thought when I saw his face was "Bitchy winey emo teen who hates their parents"
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sirmatthew (12/25/2015) [-] Thats what I thought was really cool about him. It seemed like he was trying to act wooden throughout the whole movie, then the occasional outbursts/ fatherly love . Honestly I thought he was a great actor.
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nanako (12/24/2015) [-] You've also got a black main character fighting against a white villain who wields a burning cross as a weapon.
You're kidding yourself if you think this was anything other than an exercise in propaganda
You're kidding yourself if you think this was anything other than an exercise in propaganda
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akkere (12/24/2015) [-] The thing I find funny about this post is how it's constantly posted in Star Wars threads to suggest this was the main idea, when the interview was actually regarding the TV show Undercovers.
www.earwolf.com/episode/j-j-abrams/ - Interview link before it 404'd
www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-7-racially-diverse/ - Article that transcribes the interview.
This post also ignores the fact that he followed up the statement with " Like not for sure, and if we can’t find the actors who are great, we shouldn’t,". He wasn't going to full-on Affirmative Action the show if he didn't think the actors would cut it, and the same attitude probably translated for Star Wars.
www.earwolf.com/episode/j-j-abrams/ - Interview link before it 404'd
www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-7-racially-diverse/ - Article that transcribes the interview.
This post also ignores the fact that he followed up the statement with " Like not for sure, and if we can’t find the actors who are great, we shouldn’t,". He wasn't going to full-on Affirmative Action the show if he didn't think the actors would cut it, and the same attitude probably translated for Star Wars.
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segwaynazi (12/24/2015) [-] **segwaynazi used "*roll picture*"**
**segwaynazi rolled image**Well ill be focked youre right!!!!!!!
**segwaynazi rolled image**Well ill be focked youre right!!!!!!!
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aizeinstein (12/24/2015) [-] Of course! This is why I love the original trilogy much more. They only had one black guy in the whole galaxy.
But seriously. Not everything has an ulterior motive.
But seriously. Not everything has an ulterior motive.
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buddywuggle (12/24/2015) [-] They aren't black, they are brown, have you ever even watched Alvin and the chipmunks before, thanks for the spoiler by the way.
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windlordvaati (12/24/2015) [-]
Or possibly, they cast Fin based on the fact he did the best "breathing hard" face. Secondly, Star Wars has always 1-upped themselves when it comes to lightsabers.
Ep 4-6 - Blue, Green, and Red Light-Saber
Ep 1 - Darth Maul's Double Blade
Ep 2 - Dooku's Curved-Hilt Dueling Lightsabers & Mace Windu's Purple lightsaber
Ep 7 - Kylo Ren's Broadsword Lightsaber
Not to mention, Vader lost his arm via a Parry and it was due to not having a guard, which Ren's saber prevents. Another justification is that he is using an unstable crystal (you can tell based on the consistency of the light emitted) and it has been purported that the guards are actually excess energy vents.
Ep 4-6 - Blue, Green, and Red Light-Saber
Ep 1 - Darth Maul's Double Blade
Ep 2 - Dooku's Curved-Hilt Dueling Lightsabers & Mace Windu's Purple lightsaber
Ep 7 - Kylo Ren's Broadsword Lightsaber
Not to mention, Vader lost his arm via a Parry and it was due to not having a guard, which Ren's saber prevents. Another justification is that he is using an unstable crystal (you can tell based on the consistency of the light emitted) and it has been purported that the guards are actually excess energy vents.
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windlordvaati (12/26/2015) [-]
I meant to include that. It has a functional benefit in that fact, and I'm really glad they showed it. Something they could've done better with is showing plasma popping off of the unstable saber (Kylo's) when it collided with Rei's. I'm almost positive that's a halmark of the unstable crystal, energy expulsion in that respect as well as the flaring white center of the blade.
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windlordvaati (12/26/2015) [-]
Don't know how I forgot about Grevious. To be fair, Obi-Wan totally pried his chest cavity open so he could shoot him in the chest, and his lungs literally set his face on fire.
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windlordvaati (12/26/2015) [-]
One of the better things they stole from the EU. I love unstable crystals.
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huntergriff ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-] nah, the flame troopers look like republic commandos. that's definitely a snow trooper.
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mytwocents (12/24/2015) [-] there are great things that deserve a sequel.
but how comes some well deserved ones do not get a single chance, while others get 6 more in a row?
but how comes some well deserved ones do not get a single chance, while others get 6 more in a row?
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artyomthebadass (12/24/2015) [-] Well Germany had their sequel and it had negative reviews both times
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anon (12/24/2015) [-]
Am I the only one who thought the new star wars movie wasn't good at all..?
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cactaur (12/25/2015) [-] >ignores the fact he to a wookie bolter shot, which have been shown to make people fly when they get hit.
>ignores the fact he got his sword hand wounded when fighting fin
>ignores the fact he was in an emotionally unstable state
>ignores the fact he didn't get a proper training to utilize the dark side
>implying he was at 100%
I mean, I can agree there are some deus ex machina moments and the female lead really came off mary sue-ish but don't be acting like this guy was in his prime.
>ignores the fact he got his sword hand wounded when fighting fin
>ignores the fact he was in an emotionally unstable state
>ignores the fact he didn't get a proper training to utilize the dark side
>implying he was at 100%
I mean, I can agree there are some deus ex machina moments and the female lead really came off mary sue-ish but don't be acting like this guy was in his prime.
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flowgo (12/24/2015) [-]
My gripe with the new starwars movie:
It took me a few days from seeing it to put together the words that make up my thoughts on the movie, so here goes.
MY fanboyness was willing and did forgive some glaring plot holes, but even then the story feels forced, even for force related/driven coincidences to make the movie work.
There's a scene where the antag+protag clash in trees. Antag should have destroyed protag since they'v had training. Connections were made but never explained, seemingly important characters were given little screen time and a very certain stormtrooper is clearly made to look important but given no time in hopes of tricking the fanbase into "boba fett'ing" her, by making her the big deal for people to cling to. personally riot TRAITOR trooper is ******* bad ass.
The whole movie felt like a low budget fanfic with a good camera man. The movie while gorgeous in its own right, lacked artistic flare and looked as though they didnt do any after effects on the film. The antag is just Aniken from the prequals again, emo mopey dickhead teenager with family issues. the chemistry between the first 2 primary combination characters (Escape tie) seems forced and over the top for such brief meeting. even kylo phoned it in a bit.
that being said... stormtroopers actually getting sent flying from lazer blasts is ******* awesome, fanboy trums holes, no jar jar beats jar jar.
solid 7/10 would see again
It took me a few days from seeing it to put together the words that make up my thoughts on the movie, so here goes.
MY fanboyness was willing and did forgive some glaring plot holes, but even then the story feels forced, even for force related/driven coincidences to make the movie work.
There's a scene where the antag+protag clash in trees. Antag should have destroyed protag since they'v had training. Connections were made but never explained, seemingly important characters were given little screen time and a very certain stormtrooper is clearly made to look important but given no time in hopes of tricking the fanbase into "boba fett'ing" her, by making her the big deal for people to cling to. personally riot TRAITOR trooper is ******* bad ass.
The whole movie felt like a low budget fanfic with a good camera man. The movie while gorgeous in its own right, lacked artistic flare and looked as though they didnt do any after effects on the film. The antag is just Aniken from the prequals again, emo mopey dickhead teenager with family issues. the chemistry between the first 2 primary combination characters (Escape tie) seems forced and over the top for such brief meeting. even kylo phoned it in a bit.
that being said... stormtroopers actually getting sent flying from lazer blasts is ******* awesome, fanboy trums holes, no jar jar beats jar jar.
solid 7/10 would see again
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minecraftlamer (12/25/2015) [-] people over estimate how much training kylo ren recieved from luke, luke being luke would run away crying if he noticed a 6 year old having anger issues, considering he knew the story of how anakin turned to the dark side from yoda/obi and seeing what it did to them mentally.
kylo ren clearly has a very limited knowledge of the force.
anakin had no idea what the force was until he was told, yet used it all the years before during pod-racing.
kylo ren clearly has a very limited knowledge of the force.
anakin had no idea what the force was until he was told, yet used it all the years before during pod-racing.
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udungoofedup (12/25/2015) [-] Limited knowledge? He stopped a blaster bolt in mid air and mind hacked information out of people like nothing. Pretty sure he has more knowledge than you're giving credit for.
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minecraftlamer (12/25/2015) [-] it seems to me that he loses his grip of the force when he becomes emotional. so he might be able to use the force quite well, but he hasnt mastered it.
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minecraftlamer (12/25/2015) [-] eg, i can drive a car past the speed limits,but i can't set racecar paced track times with a car. weird analogy but it should give some more explanation to my reasoning
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minecraftlamer (12/25/2015) [-] i dont think snoke is a sith, just an antagonist with knowledge of the force, just like maz has knowledge of the force but is far from a jedi.
i am guessing snoke is actually a smaller character and his hologram is just blown up to make him look influential.
also i believe kylo ren's lightsaber to be imperfect since his sabers beam has lightning around it. so he might not have perfectly known how to make one? just a theory
i am guessing snoke is actually a smaller character and his hologram is just blown up to make him look influential.
also i believe kylo ren's lightsaber to be imperfect since his sabers beam has lightning around it. so he might not have perfectly known how to make one? just a theory
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minecraftlamer (12/25/2015) [-] most i find are references to the game side of star wars, dont know if it should be regarded as canon
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frostbitcanadian (12/24/2015) [-] I didn't like the look of Ren. Like yeah his helmet kind of reminds me of Revan but with out his mask he looks like a teenager who's angry at his parents cause they didn't let him stay out past 7pm and ends up shooting up a school. Also I found Fin wanting to leave the First Order too sudden. Nothing really building up his conclusion just one fire fight and it's "I'm done" I wish Phasma had more screen time too.
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anon (12/25/2015) [-]
Kylo Ren is supposed to be an angsty teen. Also it was his first time in a battle. If he is going to leave the first order it would be during the first fight, because that's his first taste of what it's like, and he didn't like it.
I do agree with the phasma thing though.
I do agree with the phasma thing though.
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gmarrox ONLINE (12/24/2015) [-] That's Kylo Ren's driving character trait. He's just a 30 year old kid trying to become the next Darth Vader. He isn't meant to be the 'cool-headed, suave supervillain' but rather the furious, unstable, and manipulated kid who just wants to live up to his grandfather's legacy.
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magicpizza (12/28/2015) [-] When Lucas did the angsty **** like that with Anakin, he's lame.. but Abrams did it with Ren, OMG HE'S SO COOL. At least Anakin has better reason for power (to help his mother, free slaves, save his wife). Kylo is basically a fan-boy. Being a fan myself, I've been around enough Star Wars fans to tell what hypocrites most of them are.
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magicpizza (01/10/2016) [-] It's not much different than Kylo Ren one in this film neither, although Hayden's acting felt forced, Driver's one felt wooden, but then again, that's pretty subjective/relative... if you like Driver's acting then okay, good for you
Too me, I see justifications in anakin's awkwardness is because him being a slave all his childhood with not to many friends and a monk-ish jedi that can't date because of a code really shows that this guy can't talk to girls. Yes the way Hayden delivers his lines are terrible, but maybe that's his character, an awkward nerd who doesn't know how to talk to girls.
However in Kylo Ren's case, I don't dislike the actor, I just hated people for liking the character. They see him as someone badass and independent, but probably sheltered (spoiled) greatly by his family (Luke, Han, Leia) for having a great herritage. While then everyone negatively disregard Anakin as an angsty, teen with issues eventhough he sacrificed most of life (and his mother) to give everything for the people he loved, earning that herritage in the first place. This I hate.
But then again, it's still the first film. I don't really like it because it didn't bring anything new... and I guess that's my case.
Too me, I see justifications in anakin's awkwardness is because him being a slave all his childhood with not to many friends and a monk-ish jedi that can't date because of a code really shows that this guy can't talk to girls. Yes the way Hayden delivers his lines are terrible, but maybe that's his character, an awkward nerd who doesn't know how to talk to girls.
However in Kylo Ren's case, I don't dislike the actor, I just hated people for liking the character. They see him as someone badass and independent, but probably sheltered (spoiled) greatly by his family (Luke, Han, Leia) for having a great herritage. While then everyone negatively disregard Anakin as an angsty, teen with issues eventhough he sacrificed most of life (and his mother) to give everything for the people he loved, earning that herritage in the first place. This I hate.
But then again, it's still the first film. I don't really like it because it didn't bring anything new... and I guess that's my case.
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skeletorexplains ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-] isn't that the whole point of..every sith?...Ever?
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epicbanjoman (12/25/2015) [-] I would disagree. The most powerful sith are manipulative and power hungry. They are not immature, childish, or laughable. They are to be feared and not taken lightly. Take a look at Darth Sidious who had been pulling the strings for as long as he could. He hid within the ranks, slowly corrupting and dividing the Republic. Vader, what could have been the most powerful warrior in the galaxy had Sidious not hindered his ability with the suit. Count Dooku, Maul, or General Greivous, none of these warriors were childish, quick to anger like a spoiled child. Instead, these Sith Lords are never remembered for being a ******* pussy, except pre-vader anakin, and for getting their asses kicked by a untrained jedi warrior. General Grevious was defeated by Obi-Wan, master to Anakin, Dooku was defeated by Yoda and then a more trained Anakin. It took two Jedi and one devastated Obi-Wan to defeat him. Kylo Ren is not Sith, he is a child. The Sith are free from control of others by allowing their own emotion to control them, their thirst for power is unprecedented, and their actions strike fear and devastation into the ranks of their foes. Kylo Ren is a pathetic wannabe bitch who thinks he's a sith. Just because you have evil intention does not make you an elite warrior of the sith. These are just examples from the movies, take a look at the extended universe and discover other examples.
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anon (12/25/2015) [-]
Kylo Ren is basically anakin before he was trained, like he was in revenge of the sith.
Just like Anakin was a little bitch before he was fully trained, so is Kylo.
What I don't get is why luke doesn't just tell Kylo Ren about how Darth Vader tried to redeem himself in the end, considering all Kylo wants to do is to uphold his legacy.
Just like Anakin was a little bitch before he was fully trained, so is Kylo.
What I don't get is why luke doesn't just tell Kylo Ren about how Darth Vader tried to redeem himself in the end, considering all Kylo wants to do is to uphold his legacy.
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switchctiws ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-] Some ******* faggot on FunnyJunk spoiled the movie a few days before I watched it.
*SPOILER* Dude said that Han died. Completely ruined the awesome scene in the movie because I knew it was going to happen.
Thing is, I figured this would happen, so when the movie initially came out, I made the decision to not go on FJ, Reddit, 4chan, etc. until I had seen it.
Then on opening night I booted up my computer and thought to myself: Okay, I have to stay away from FJ.
5 seconds later: WELP, TIME TO GO ON FUNNYJUNK.
And then there it was on the front page in the comments. Some asshat spoiled it.
Whoever you are, I hope you ******* die.
I kind of just needed to vent.
*SPOILER* Dude said that Han died. Completely ruined the awesome scene in the movie because I knew it was going to happen.
Thing is, I figured this would happen, so when the movie initially came out, I made the decision to not go on FJ, Reddit, 4chan, etc. until I had seen it.
Then on opening night I booted up my computer and thought to myself: Okay, I have to stay away from FJ.
5 seconds later: WELP, TIME TO GO ON FUNNYJUNK.
And then there it was on the front page in the comments. Some asshat spoiled it.
Whoever you are, I hope you ******* die.
I kind of just needed to vent.
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mondominiman ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-] I've been on FJ so long i've forgotten pretty much every other website. I can see where you're coming from, even if you want to avoid it you don't know where else to go so your immediate thought is to go to FJ.
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switchctiws ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-] Yeah, exactly. It's like a reflex to go on my computer and immediately go on FJ.
I can't leave.
Now there is only pain and suffering.
I can't leave.
Now there is only pain and suffering.
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anon (12/24/2015) [-]
I unironically didn't like it. It wasn't bad but it was just an average action flick. It wasnt great.
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masdercheef (12/24/2015) [-] Okay, okay, one thing that bugs me about Phasma.... her blaster rifle. It has (what appears to be) an adjustable stock.... and a folding stock. It's supposedly an F-11D, according to the Star Wars wiki (haven't seen the movie yet but I'm not entirely sure that would be mentioned in the movie anyway) - not quite the E-11 but it is certainly derived from that design, and therefore can be traced back to the Sten. So did nobody involved in the design of this weapon realize that was meant to be, or...?
Regardless of what I'm going to assume is an oversight, the First Order's aesthetic is pretty nice. From what I've seen of their Stormtroopers, weaponry, and vehicles, they carried on Imperial tradition but with a certain modernized flair.
Regardless of what I'm going to assume is an oversight, the First Order's aesthetic is pretty nice. From what I've seen of their Stormtroopers, weaponry, and vehicles, they carried on Imperial tradition but with a certain modernized flair.
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masdercheef (12/24/2015) [-] Ah, but we've seen the E-11's stock deployed before. Perhaps it functions as a grip on the F-11D, but you'd think the part connecting it to the butt of the gun would be removed in the interest of saving weight, money, and materials used in manufacturing the weapon, and it would only attach to the barrel shroud / handguard.
