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bouya (12/06/2015) [-] 
Byzantine Empire? Right now you're mixing three different wars with tons of different ages. Are you talking about early middle ages? When Islam spread over the world by sword? And killed anyone in their way? Including modern Spain, Italy and balkans. Or are you talking about 11th Century? When Sallahudin al-Ayubi waged wars against Richard Lionheart? And eventually took Jerusalem back from him with superior strategic expertise? Sometimes when I scroll through these kind of subjects on FJ It's like the whole of Funnyjunk is against Muslims and Pro-Crusades.
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gerfox ONLINE (12/06/2015) [-]
Im talking crusades in general. The 1st crusade accomplished its primary objective, as the only of the crusades. The 3rd crusade was ultimately unsuccesful as they failed to achieve their primary objective. Jerusalem remained under Saladins control, and Richard the Lionheart, despite of all his successes, failed.
And the 4th crusade destroyed the last hope of christianity in eastern europe, and played everything into the hands of the Turk.
How did you interpret it such that I was for crusades? Most of FJ is a circlejerking bunch of teenagers with an irrational hive mind. Illustrated by their hate of migrants, feminism and a lot of other stuff. Also by their idolization of Hitler and Putin.
And the 4th crusade destroyed the last hope of christianity in eastern europe, and played everything into the hands of the Turk.
How did you interpret it such that I was for crusades? Most of FJ is a circlejerking bunch of teenagers with an irrational hive mind. Illustrated by their hate of migrants, feminism and a lot of other stuff. Also by their idolization of Hitler and Putin.
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gerfox ONLINE (12/06/2015) [-]
I didnt post a picture.. Guess you mistook me for the original poster. Yeah, its cringy if you ask me. People here hate others who have an irrational hate toward a group (such as the extreme feminists they seem to associate with most feminists), but theyre not really any better themselves. I find the crusader attitude a bit concerning, as Ive seen elsewhere too that the attitude has spread to more mainstream media (regular comment sections for instance. Theyre still cancer, but usually not so cancerous as many things here. Its playing right into the hands of the extremists if it continues.
But hey, I try to filter through it to get to the funny stuff.
But hey, I try to filter through it to get to the funny stuff.
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zmranger (12/04/2015) [-] ☐ Not REKT
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masterboll (12/04/2015) [-] kek
butthurt, xenophobic anon is trying to rumble jimboes.
"we" actually implied that he was a part of the group he was referring to. i explained to him that being overweight, sitting in a basement and posting memes doesnt automatically give him the same status as people who go outside and do things.
butthurt, xenophobic anon is trying to rumble jimboes.
"we" actually implied that he was a part of the group he was referring to. i explained to him that being overweight, sitting in a basement and posting memes doesnt automatically give him the same status as people who go outside and do things.
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masterboll (12/05/2015) [-] >implying i should give an overweight, basement dwelling memer any credit for what christians who leave the house have done
stay mad, butthurt anon
stay mad, butthurt anon
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orangesarenice (12/04/2015) [-]
They were there in Jerusalem where they butchered Muslims and . Not Saudi.
And Saudi ain't waging war in Europe, hence the Refugee scenario makes no sense.
But let's not let Logic get in the way of a good /pol ********
And Saudi ain't waging war in Europe, hence the Refugee scenario makes no sense.
But let's not let Logic get in the way of a good /pol ********
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geraltimore (12/04/2015) [-] I love how that anime has holy crusades and knights in it.
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sturmbeard (12/04/2015) [-] Why hello, I am here for the ark of the covenant, could you point me in the right direction?
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internetexplain (12/04/2015) [-] Yes , actually I can pin point it to the very city it is located in.
Go to egypt , travel up the Nile river until you find yourself a mystical land known as "South-Sudan" then make your way east to the home of the first Christians , the very embodiment of Christian Civilization , the Kingdom of Abyssinia , better known under it's westernized name " Ethiopia "
make your way north-east toward Addis-Abbeba , the Capital of this glorious Christian Nation.
From there on, travel east along the roads, to the Holy City of Axum, visit the churches and ask the local priests where to find the Arc of the Covenant, they will give you further directions.
Deus Vult, my Catholic friend, may the Arc's glory make you repent your heretical ways and realize that Orthodoxy is the only legitimate form of Christianity.
Go to egypt , travel up the Nile river until you find yourself a mystical land known as "South-Sudan" then make your way east to the home of the first Christians , the very embodiment of Christian Civilization , the Kingdom of Abyssinia , better known under it's westernized name " Ethiopia "
make your way north-east toward Addis-Abbeba , the Capital of this glorious Christian Nation.
From there on, travel east along the roads, to the Holy City of Axum, visit the churches and ask the local priests where to find the Arc of the Covenant, they will give you further directions.
Deus Vult, my Catholic friend, may the Arc's glory make you repent your heretical ways and realize that Orthodoxy is the only legitimate form of Christianity.
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raamageddon (12/05/2015) [-] Now let me stop you right there, mate. That there is not a claymore. People very mistakenly use the term claymore to refer to any big-ass sword they see, and that simply isn't right. That there is what we would call, generically, a greatsword in this day and age. However, even then, the term greatsword was not one of their time, but one that we came up with. Back then, a two-handed sword of that nature would simply be called a longsword.
A claymore is a very specific variant of the longsword. It's Scottish in origin, and features a cross-guard that angles forward towards the blade, creating a "V" shape, whether deep or shallow.
If that **** ain't got a V, that **** ain't a claymore.
A claymore is a very specific variant of the longsword. It's Scottish in origin, and features a cross-guard that angles forward towards the blade, creating a "V" shape, whether deep or shallow.
If that **** ain't got a V, that **** ain't a claymore.
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scooterdanny (12/04/2015) [-] Not all of them. See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Crusade ******* losers sacking the city of the world's desire.
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congorepublic (12/04/2015) [-] So why are you acting like the Crusaders were some badass warriors of justice.
The only thing the Crusaders were good for was pillaging defenseless villages. But when it came to actual combat between armies, the Crusaders got their asses kicked 90% of the time.
You can fabricate characters all you want, but that doesn't change historical fact.
The only thing the Crusaders were good for was pillaging defenseless villages. But when it came to actual combat between armies, the Crusaders got their asses kicked 90% of the time.
You can fabricate characters all you want, but that doesn't change historical fact.
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agnaraed ONLINE (12/04/2015) [-] because the images are entertaining. I posted these for entertainment because I found them amusing. Christianity's done some messed up crap. Pretty much all religions have. Like many things on this site. Things are said and done for the entertainment/ridiculous factor, not what is actually believed/true.
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congorepublic (12/04/2015) [-] Hm... well I guess I was mistaken. Though, I'm fairly certain that there are people (mainly fat basement dwellers) who take these images as historical fact.
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relvel (12/04/2015) [-] It's basically the same as the Brotherhood of Steel or those guys from Warhammer. I don't know what they're called, I don't play it. Pls spare me. Acting like violent zealots is fun. We know that some of the things they do are wrong or hypocritical, but it's okay because it's fun to call people heretics and commit genocide purge the world of evil in video games. We think it's funny.
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psychotayto (12/04/2015) [-] A lot of Christians(whites) do live(and work) in middle eastern countries.
**** some middle eastern countries even have(had) churches in them. Not trying to play devil's advocate here but not all middle eastern people hate Christians and wanna convert them.
But hey, That's just my opinion Rick
**** some middle eastern countries even have(had) churches in them. Not trying to play devil's advocate here but not all middle eastern people hate Christians and wanna convert them.
But hey, That's just my opinion Rick
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scooterdanny (12/04/2015) [-] Yup, in fact, christianity started in syria (large scale). It later migrated away, though not completely, the christian church in india and syria still exist to some extent to this day.
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anon (12/04/2015) [-]
Actaully alot of mid eastern countries have churches , i live in one of the mid east countries its called bahrain and it does have churches.
The reason that saudi arabia doesnt have churches is like the vatekan( sorry dont know how to spell it , its the place where th pope lives??).
Also , lebanon is an arabian country but its main religion is christianity soooo......
The reason that saudi arabia doesnt have churches is like the vatekan( sorry dont know how to spell it , its the place where th pope lives??).
Also , lebanon is an arabian country but its main religion is christianity soooo......
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thesovereigngrave (12/04/2015) [-] Saudi Arabia isn't like the Vatican. Iran would be a closer parallel, since they're both theocracies. Saudi Arabia has sharia law, but it is technically not a theocracy as it's ruled by a King and not Islamic clergy.
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thesovereigngrave (12/04/2015) [-] How exactly? The Saudi monarch doesn't have any religious authority; he's a hereditary absolute monarch. The Vatican is ruled by the Pope, who is the Head of the Catholic Church and essentially the highest-ranking member of the Catholic clergy. Iran is headed by the Supreme Leader, who has both religious and political authority and have both been Ayatollahs (high-ranking Shi'ite clerics).
And nothing is really comparable to the Vatican anyway. Since it's a state whose population consists entirely of Catholic clergy and Catholics who volunteer to guard them.
And nothing is really comparable to the Vatican anyway. Since it's a state whose population consists entirely of Catholic clergy and Catholics who volunteer to guard them.
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nanahara (12/04/2015) [-] you are right, the Saudi monarchy have no religious authority. But the highest ranking Sunni muslim officials do reside in Saudi-arabia. that along with mecca being the destination for pilgrimage, makes it the closest comparison to the St. peters church in the vatican (which also a destination for christen pilgrimage).
Iran might be more important for Shia muslims, but they are a minority in amongst muslims. and the iranian shia ayatollah has no authority over the majority of the worlds muslim population.
Iran might be more important for Shia muslims, but they are a minority in amongst muslims. and the iranian shia ayatollah has no authority over the majority of the worlds muslim population.
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thesovereigngrave (12/04/2015) [-] Well it's kind of difficult to compare, since it's not like Christianity where you have organized Churches. Top Sunni officials may reside in Saudi Arabia, but there's likely plenty of Sunnis who disagree with their interpretations and don't particularly care what they have to say.
And I was saying that Iran was comparable to the Vatican mostly in the way they were governed. Which is by actual clergy. Yeah, there are tons of differences. After all, I did say that nothing is really comparable to the Vatican really.
And I was saying that Iran was comparable to the Vatican mostly in the way they were governed. Which is by actual clergy. Yeah, there are tons of differences. After all, I did say that nothing is really comparable to the Vatican really.
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joikapoika (12/04/2015) [-] I would compare Iran and Saudi Arabia more to the likes of The Holy Roman Empire and Spain in europe in the 1500s. There is really no state or country even remotely close to what the vatican is, maybe with the exception of Tibet, but that isn't really going to well for those guys...
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donfailed (12/04/2015) [-]
I know there's good people over there, but at the same time, there's also a significantly sized group of asshats who go around doing **** like burning churches. And when I say significantly sized, I mean big enough for this to happen
www.wnd.com/2015/03/top-saudi-cleric-burn-all-the-churches/
www.wnd.com/2015/03/top-saudi-cleric-burn-all-the-churches/
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redreadread (12/04/2015) [-]
While that's true, they are highly skilled and employable. They are not deadweight, tolerated due to charity. The piece of **** refugee hordes now streaming into the free world can't be compared to them man.
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hoponthefeelstrain (12/04/2015) [-] how do you think they made a living before leaving?
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willisteal (12/04/2015) [-] We don't punish those who convert out of religions with death.
Sincerely,
-The West
Sincerely,
-The West
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toosexyforyou (12/04/2015) [-] That's not even what it's saying. Your point is irrelevant.
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pirateseatcarrots (12/04/2015) [-] >Saudi offical
>Al arabiya
I mean I doubt either of them will paint their government in a bad light.
>Al arabiya
I mean I doubt either of them will paint their government in a bad light.
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pirateseatcarrots (12/04/2015) [-] Dude chill. I'm just saying it's illogical that a pro-Saudi channel,and Saudi official would say something painting them in bad light. If you want to believe it fine whatever I'm just pointing it out...
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angelusprimus (12/04/2015) [-] And a month before that they were claiming they took 100.000.
Boy, those Syrians must be breeding like rabbits.
Boy, those Syrians must be breeding like rabbits.
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psychotayto (12/04/2015) [-] Yeah geez rick i said some middle eastern countries, you know?
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theruinedsage (12/04/2015) [-] And I'm pretty sure the refugees aren't from Saudi Arabia
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therealtjthemedic (12/04/2015) [-] So what you and the comic are literally saying that we should strive to be more like Saudi Arabia and the other Islamic countries?
Solid logic there, champ :^).
Solid logic there, champ :^).
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hexadecimated (12/04/2015) [-] No, I'm saying we should keep the ones trying to make our countries like their own out.
Especially since the ones coming here have ISIS sleeper agents among them.
Not accepting millions of potentially dangerous people that you cannot feed into your country doesn't make you ****** . It makes you realistic.
Especially since the ones coming here have ISIS sleeper agents among them.
Not accepting millions of potentially dangerous people that you cannot feed into your country doesn't make you ****** . It makes you realistic.
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captainprincess ONLINE (12/04/2015) [-] To be fair
being the better people IS hard and thankless work
being the better people IS hard and thankless work
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therealtjthemedic (12/04/2015) [-] No reason not to do it. You don't act like a decent human being because you think you'll be rewarded, you do it because it's right.
And these guys are pretty much saying that Europe should be more like the Islamic nations.
And these guys are pretty much saying that Europe should be more like the Islamic nations.
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captainprincess ONLINE (12/04/2015) [-] Problem is
noone said it's easy or without it's own problems
except people are acting like these problems arising are the end of the world, and if I didnt know any better I'd suspect they're acting like that because they're pissy that brown people are in more and more places and living comfortably
I'll bet that's not it but it sure looks that way sometimes
noone said it's easy or without it's own problems
except people are acting like these problems arising are the end of the world, and if I didnt know any better I'd suspect they're acting like that because they're pissy that brown people are in more and more places and living comfortably
I'll bet that's not it but it sure looks that way sometimes
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therealtjthemedic (12/04/2015) [-] Yeah, I'd say so too.
A lot of these people don't dislike Muslims, they dislike Arabs, or just brown people in general.
There may well be some actual issues but they get drowned out by the masses of people saying 'I don't want brown people to live in europe because they scare me'.
A lot of these people don't dislike Muslims, they dislike Arabs, or just brown people in general.
There may well be some actual issues but they get drowned out by the masses of people saying 'I don't want brown people to live in europe because they scare me'.
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captainprincess ONLINE (12/04/2015) [-] Gotta be fair though
there are some scary examples of the real nasty poisonous people using the brown tide to get an in
For all the paranoid reporting on the slow destruction of sweden, I can't find much to say any of it's faked
It really does seem to be buckling at the knees
But if anything it looks like it's a case of the current swedish government literally accepting the flow of **** with an open mouth and telling it's own people to suck it up
the nations whose governments aren't so sacrificially spineless seem to be fairing somewhat better
there are some scary examples of the real nasty poisonous people using the brown tide to get an in
For all the paranoid reporting on the slow destruction of sweden, I can't find much to say any of it's faked
It really does seem to be buckling at the knees
But if anything it looks like it's a case of the current swedish government literally accepting the flow of **** with an open mouth and telling it's own people to suck it up
the nations whose governments aren't so sacrificially spineless seem to be fairing somewhat better
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severepwner (12/04/2015) [-] Doing the "right thing" is what's letting these madmen pillage Europe. Us not letting millions of radical muslims come into our country for the sole purpose of pillaging it and sucking it dry, isn't us being "immoral" that's us protecting our country AND our countrymen.
Why does "doing the right thing" involve betraying your countrymen? Have you considered that our citizens need to be protected from these savages too? But no, only want these "refugees" want actually matters. The people who live here who expect to live their lives with their home not burned to the ground, all their property stolen, their women raped, and themselves assaulted or killed.
You heard it from him folks. Protecting your citizens and your country from these savages, is the WRONG thing to do. We should be doing the right thing, by letting them trample our countrymen and everything we stand for.
Why does "doing the right thing" involve betraying your countrymen? Have you considered that our citizens need to be protected from these savages too? But no, only want these "refugees" want actually matters. The people who live here who expect to live their lives with their home not burned to the ground, all their property stolen, their women raped, and themselves assaulted or killed.
You heard it from him folks. Protecting your citizens and your country from these savages, is the WRONG thing to do. We should be doing the right thing, by letting them trample our countrymen and everything we stand for.
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toosexyforyou (12/04/2015) [-] That's the type of thinking that ruins good things and also why you'll never be in charge of something important.
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anoxz (12/04/2015) [-] Well maybe not in Saudi Arabia today... But once, Christian and Jewish peoples enjoyed a reasonable standard of living within muslim controlled lands.
They had the right to practice their religion, build churches within the own communities and some extend of self-governance within the limits of muslim rule.
Some christians and jews even recieved high respectable ranks of office.
This was the case with muslim controlled areas like the Umayyad Caliphate and the Ottoman Empire.
They had the right to practice their religion, build churches within the own communities and some extend of self-governance within the limits of muslim rule.
Some christians and jews even recieved high respectable ranks of office.
This was the case with muslim controlled areas like the Umayyad Caliphate and the Ottoman Empire.
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anon (12/04/2015) [-]
Allow me to be the devil's advocate
They were also exempt from military service
Cause you know there were a lot of wars going on at the time
Some people would rather pay a bit more to avoid going to war
Also the Ottoman empire had people like Jews in high government positions while Spain was going full Inquisition on them
Depends really on the type of person in power
Gee just like modern times
They were also exempt from military service
Cause you know there were a lot of wars going on at the time
Some people would rather pay a bit more to avoid going to war
Also the Ottoman empire had people like Jews in high government positions while Spain was going full Inquisition on them
Depends really on the type of person in power
Gee just like modern times
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megakillerx (12/04/2015) [-] With exchange of heavy taxation and becoming second class citizens unless you convert.
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herparderpington (12/04/2015) [-] say what you want but it's still better than expelling or killing everyone
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gider (12/04/2015) [-] Just remember the Pact of Umar; You are allowed to be an infidel in a Muslim state, but you are inferior (you know, not allowed to repair churches, highest chruch has to be lower than the lowest mosque, a Muslim's opinion is worth more than a Christian's/Jew's)
Plus, Dhimmis (infidels) had to pay the Jizya, which caused a lot of peasants and poor people to convert so that they didn't have to pay it. Pretty clever way of spreading a religion without forcing them by the sword
Plus, Dhimmis (infidels) had to pay the Jizya, which caused a lot of peasants and poor people to convert so that they didn't have to pay it. Pretty clever way of spreading a religion without forcing them by the sword
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herparderpington (12/04/2015) [-] What were you expecting?
Wait...
NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION.
Wait...
NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION.
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failtolawl (12/04/2015) [-] You likewise cannot judge Islam on ISIS if you are going to invalidate the Inquisition representing Christianity.
If both religions followed their books to the teeth we would be in constant war because they are incompatible. The world needs to move beyond religion and see that ISIS and Al Qaeda are a irreligious power trips.
If both religions followed their books to the teeth we would be in constant war because they are incompatible. The world needs to move beyond religion and see that ISIS and Al Qaeda are a irreligious power trips.
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gider (12/04/2015) [-] Yea, I was sorta relunctant when using that argument. I should have fleshed my thoughts out a bit more, but I was sorta aiming at a more theological point of view, the Crusades and the Inquisition for example are not in any way what Jesus taught. ISIS and Al-Qaida (I'm not really sure about the things Al-Qaida is doing though ) are doing what Muhammad did. Funny, looking at the OP of this thread's picture, that's what Muhammad's companions, Ali, Umar, Uthman and Abu Bakr did after his death, they waged war upon the disbelievers as they had followed Muhammad all through his life. What ISIS is doing is literally what the early Caliphs did.
But yea, no one should follow their religion to the utmost, Christians, Muslims or anyone else. It just causes trouble for everyone
But yea, no one should follow their religion to the utmost, Christians, Muslims or anyone else. It just causes trouble for everyone
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anon (12/04/2015) [-]
The doctrine of ISIS is unquestionably based on the religion of Islam. But it's very important to note that the overwhelming majority of scholars in the Muslim world reject the extremist interpretation, and they do so in detail. For example, Muhammad Tahrir-ul-Qadri wrote a 600 page fatwa directly refuting terrorism and the ideology of al Qaeda and Taliban, addressing their arguments using the Qur'an and Sunnah point by point. ISIS may be nominally Islamic, but their faithfulness to the Qur'an and Sunnah is very much in dispute. I personally think people who make the argument "the religion of Islam is the problem" have a duty to refute the arguments made by people like Tahrir-ul-Qadri; otherwise, they're failing to truly engage the thing they're criticizing, which makes their criticisms weak.
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gider (12/04/2015) [-] Hm, I see your point. I'm afraid I haven't heard much about Muhammad Tahrir-ul-Qadri, but there was a bunch of Imams here in Norway some time ago that compiled a list of verses/ hadiths/ you name it, and said that Islam condemns war and terorrism. I looked at it, and they had cut out parts of verses, like in Sura 5:32, which applies to Jews, and made it look like it applied to everyone. I might take a look at this fellow you mentioned though, seems interesting.
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relvel (12/04/2015) [-] At least it shows that some, if not most, of them are willing to revise their teachings and scrap certain ideas that could be seen as harmful in an effort to put themselves on good terms with outsiders. As long as they possess a genuine desire to get along with others, I'm okay with them censoring anything that could potentially put them in a bad light.
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failtolawl (12/04/2015) [-] It's an interesting relationship between the prophet and the God in the bible and the quran.
For instance, in the bible, Jesus is a peace loving person that hates weapons etc.etc. But then God is a gigantic asshole who kills people, forces people to kill others. (considering old testement is incorporated into the bible)
The Quran, Mohammed is a warrior, whom defends his people from tyranny, then returns the favor, but then the God is a peace loving thing that is 'gentle' and what not
Problem is these books are written by so many people, they contradict themselves so many times. You can go on one website that gathers all the ****** things the books say, then find another that picks out all the good things they say.
I guess that's what happens when you get books that are thousands of years old and hundreds of reinterpretations. Even Paul wrote his own version that pretty much said "I'm writing this in my hand so you know it's real" because even that early there were forgeries.
Shame Atheism has a stigma with ******* fedora wearing SJWs or w/e we are hating now, people could learn a lot from going beyond what the books "say" to what the books "do".
For instance, in the bible, Jesus is a peace loving person that hates weapons etc.etc. But then God is a gigantic asshole who kills people, forces people to kill others. (considering old testement is incorporated into the bible)
The Quran, Mohammed is a warrior, whom defends his people from tyranny, then returns the favor, but then the God is a peace loving thing that is 'gentle' and what not
Problem is these books are written by so many people, they contradict themselves so many times. You can go on one website that gathers all the ****** things the books say, then find another that picks out all the good things they say.
I guess that's what happens when you get books that are thousands of years old and hundreds of reinterpretations. Even Paul wrote his own version that pretty much said "I'm writing this in my hand so you know it's real" because even that early there were forgeries.
Shame Atheism has a stigma with ******* fedora wearing SJWs or w/e we are hating now, people could learn a lot from going beyond what the books "say" to what the books "do".
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gider (12/04/2015) [-] I totally agree man. Doesn't really matter what kind of religion you follow, people will get zealous as hell and slaughter each other, even Buddhists, like those in Myanmar.
I just personally have a hard time with Islam in particular, for it is a religion where terror is so widespread. The fact that they view Muhammad as a perfect human being isn't exaclty helping either. And yea, I've noticed that Atheism is frowned upon, atleast here on fj. Would have been so much more better if we all just weren't that serious about religion :/
I just personally have a hard time with Islam in particular, for it is a religion where terror is so widespread. The fact that they view Muhammad as a perfect human being isn't exaclty helping either. And yea, I've noticed that Atheism is frowned upon, atleast here on fj. Would have been so much more better if we all just weren't that serious about religion :/
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gider (12/04/2015) [-] I never said that woman, children, old people, those unable to work and so on were forced to pay it. But it was a factor which caused mass conversions among the lower classes, as they would instead have to pay the zakat, which was usually less, at 2.5% annual income.
You're right about the curches though, my mistake there. No new churches, got it. Btw, houses of dhimmis had to be so low that they had to bend over to get in, so that they are reminded of their low status in the world.
You're right about the curches though, my mistake there. No new churches, got it. Btw, houses of dhimmis had to be so low that they had to bend over to get in, so that they are reminded of their low status in the world.
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ghustla ONLINE (12/04/2015) [-] so infidels of islamic belief can't be women or children or elderly? and when I say working males that mean the ones that have excess over living needs and was like one pound a year (I think it equals 10$ now) and if they don't jizia is not paid, and zakat was paid for the poor people not only poor muslims
and there is no such thing in islam about how other people build their homes, the houses was probably old houses buried by sand over the years
and there is no such thing in islam about how other people build their homes, the houses was probably old houses buried by sand over the years
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gider (12/04/2015) [-] I said Dhimmis, which basically means infidels, non-Muslims, disbelievers, whatever you name it. It is them who pay the Jizya, my point wasn't exaclty to write a detailed story regarding Islamic taxation, but to give a general picture of this Islamic tradition. But as I said, Jizya caused people from the lower classes, which neceserly doesn't mean beggers and the absolute bottom of society.
"Jizya and kharaj taxes were an economic burden for the non-Muslim peasants in a subsistence economy.[129][130][131] The hardship on rural people not only caused large scale conversions to Islam to escape the taxes on non-Muslims, but also triggered a mass flight of people from rural to urban areas.[129][132] Yet in some cases, such as the Byzantine region, these tax rates, states Lewis, reflected a lower burden than taxes before.[133]"
From the Wikipedia article regarding Jizya: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya#Rate_of_jizya_tax
Regarding housing, I'm not sure how to respond to that. You say it was "probably old houses buried by sand". That's not an argument, it's a statement. Society under the early Caliphate flourshied, like in Cordoba, Spain when compared to what they were before (excluding the Romans).
"Jizya and kharaj taxes were an economic burden for the non-Muslim peasants in a subsistence economy.[129][130][131] The hardship on rural people not only caused large scale conversions to Islam to escape the taxes on non-Muslims, but also triggered a mass flight of people from rural to urban areas.[129][132] Yet in some cases, such as the Byzantine region, these tax rates, states Lewis, reflected a lower burden than taxes before.[133]"
From the Wikipedia article regarding Jizya: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya#Rate_of_jizya_tax
Regarding housing, I'm not sure how to respond to that. You say it was "probably old houses buried by sand". That's not an argument, it's a statement. Society under the early Caliphate flourshied, like in Cordoba, Spain when compared to what they were before (excluding the Romans).
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ghustla ONLINE (12/04/2015) [-] as I said if working class can't pay they don't pay how's that a burden?
and how many centuries separate Cordoba's age from first caliphs? technology have advanced so did the way they built houses, and caliphate didn't start with Cordoba it started when the prophet passed away
and how many centuries separate Cordoba's age from first caliphs? technology have advanced so did the way they built houses, and caliphate didn't start with Cordoba it started when the prophet passed away
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gider (12/04/2015) [-] Cordoba was just an example, since it's pretty famous. Alexandria was settled after the Rashiduns came, and they constructed buildings there. Same with Mosul under Umar, who started to continue expanding the city. Midian was also resettled by Umar, who built plenty of new buildings there.
Forgive me, but I'm not sure if I understand what you're aiming at. Yea, people who weren't able to pay the Jizya because they had no money were exempt from it, and were even helped, but I wasn't referring to the absolute bottom. The main sources of income for the Caliphate was the Jizya, so that's gives a pretty solid view on how many were taxed.
Forgive me, but I'm not sure if I understand what you're aiming at. Yea, people who weren't able to pay the Jizya because they had no money were exempt from it, and were even helped, but I wasn't referring to the absolute bottom. The main sources of income for the Caliphate was the Jizya, so that's gives a pretty solid view on how many were taxed.
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gider (12/05/2015) [-] Uhm, I said that if they can't pay, as in, they literally have no money, then they don't have to pay. The poorest were instead given Zakat I believe. So I think we agree here.
Also, during Uthman, the income of Jizya was over 100 million dinhams. During the Ottomans and Umayyads, it was the largest source of income. I kept reading on the Wikipedia article, and apparently the income of Zakat was 'insignificant' compared to the Jizya.
Also, during Uthman, the income of Jizya was over 100 million dinhams. During the Ottomans and Umayyads, it was the largest source of income. I kept reading on the Wikipedia article, and apparently the income of Zakat was 'insignificant' compared to the Jizya.
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ghustla ONLINE (12/05/2015) [-] zakat was meant to be given to the poor not anything else period and sure hell Omar the man who's words were supported by quran god words it self wont take zakat for anything else, the man was known for his patched garment, he did even buy new cloths and gave most of his income to the muslim money house
and if someone whatever their status can't pay the jizya they are not obligated to pay
and if someone whatever their status can't pay the jizya they are not obligated to pay
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gider (12/05/2015) [-] They don't have to pay if they don't have the money, but if you did have money and didn't want to pay, well, that means imprisonment, in some cases your family was enslaved, and in some you were literally forced to convert (source is in the link i have you a few posts ago). It didn't matter if you didn't want to pay, if you had the money, you had to pay it.
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ghustla ONLINE (12/05/2015) [-] no one is forced in islam quran.com/2/256
jizya is a tax same as zakat for muslims tax evasion is punished no one is above the law
jizya is a tax same as zakat for muslims tax evasion is punished no one is above the law
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gider (12/05/2015) [-] Jesus Christ, I've cited sources that states Jizya was harsher than Zakat. Zakat was usually 2.5% of annual income, while Jizya could range frombeing a fixed amount based on your income to 50% of everything you produce. The article even states that Jizya was an economic burden which caused mass-conversions.
Yea, there shall be no compulsion, I get that, but doesn't mean Muslims didn't practice it. Even Muhammad said himself in Sahih Muslim that he was sent to fight until people testify the Shahada, the profession of faith in Islam. The Zoroastrians for example, persecuted and forcefully converted until they were almost wiped out.
Yea, there shall be no compulsion, I get that, but doesn't mean Muslims didn't practice it. Even Muhammad said himself in Sahih Muslim that he was sent to fight until people testify the Shahada, the profession of faith in Islam. The Zoroastrians for example, persecuted and forcefully converted until they were almost wiped out.
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ghustla ONLINE (12/05/2015) [-] "fight" doesn't always means physical war, it's not to give up on people no matter how they treat you, except when they hurt you physically like waging war
and seriously why do you think a man that is not learnt in the middle of the desert would make hundred upon thousands upon millions follow his teaching? because he was a war lord? a pedophile? go read the quran and his life by yourself and then judge, god gave you a brain us it
and seriously why do you think a man that is not learnt in the middle of the desert would make hundred upon thousands upon millions follow his teaching? because he was a war lord? a pedophile? go read the quran and his life by yourself and then judge, god gave you a brain us it
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gider (12/05/2015) [-] I've read the Quran, that's why I'm so negative to Islam. Read Ibn Kathirs tafsir on Sura 9:29, and then you'll se what Islam truly is. Wage war until everyone has been subjugated under Islam. That is what drove the Rashiduns to conquer all that vast territory, and those wars were real.
Muhammad's companions are what made Islam great. Islam grew because it was surrouded by weakened empires, Byzantium and Persia, who had been fighting each other for decades.
And I know of Muhammads life and all the **** he caused for people who was defiant.
Sahih Muslim (1:33) The Messenger of Allah said: "I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay zakat."
There's a ton more **** on Muhammad in Sahih Muslim and Sahih al-Bukhari
Muhammad's companions are what made Islam great. Islam grew because it was surrouded by weakened empires, Byzantium and Persia, who had been fighting each other for decades.
And I know of Muhammads life and all the **** he caused for people who was defiant.
Sahih Muslim (1:33) The Messenger of Allah said: "I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay zakat."
There's a ton more **** on Muhammad in Sahih Muslim and Sahih al-Bukhari
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ghustla ONLINE (12/06/2015) [-] islamnewsroom.com/news-we-need/329-yusuf-estes-correcting-quran-misquotes
Read this because the answer is too long
Read this because the answer is too long
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gider (12/06/2015) [-] Tell me, at the Battle of Tebouk, did the Byzantines ever engage in battle? No, they didn't, there were no Byzantines in the area and there is no Byzantine account of the 'battle'. Muhammad sent a small army to punish the tribes for killing one of his emissaries, yea, so "peaceful" of him. Even Ibn Kathir stated it was an offensive war against Byzantium. That's also what the Rightfully Guided Caliphs did, holy warring everyone to oblivion. That's why the Caliphate grew so large, not because Allah gave them the land or anything, but because of conquest through offensive wars. 9:29 is literally a way for Muslim to be allowed to subjugate non-Muslims, that's even one the places where Jizya is mentioned.
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ghustla ONLINE (12/07/2015) [-] nope it's was because the murder of Harith bin omeer (he was carrying a message for king mosra) on the hands of Sharhabeel bin Amr, then the prophet sent Zayed bin Haritha only to be intercepted by Byzantines, so no they were not innocent and if you know history killing messengers who were on the level of ambassador were considered an act of war
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ghustla ONLINE (12/08/2015) [-] uhh that's not what I meant, the word oppressor here is translated from "Thalim" "ظالم" which contain many meaning in english: unjust - unfair - oppressive - tyrannous - iniquitous - inequitable - exploiter, the point is god justice is above all and it's applied on all even if it was against family, tribe and/or country
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gider (12/07/2015) [-] I somehow can't reply to your later posts, dunno why.
The Byzantines defended an ally. It's just like Germany jumping in to help their ally Austria during WW1. Germany had done nothing against Serbia and was a compatant like everyone else, but still got completely ****** in the peace treaty.
If the Byzantines wanted war, then they would have attacked, which I have stated that they couldn't. The army and economy was in a terrible state, and it was literally defending against an offensive attack form the Muslims. I can recall 2 times when Byzantines had anything to do with Arabia, first was an expedition before Muhammad was born and the second was the battle with the Muslims.
The Byzantines defended an ally. It's just like Germany jumping in to help their ally Austria during WW1. Germany had done nothing against Serbia and was a compatant like everyone else, but still got completely ****** in the peace treaty.
If the Byzantines wanted war, then they would have attacked, which I have stated that they couldn't. The army and economy was in a terrible state, and it was literally defending against an offensive attack form the Muslims. I can recall 2 times when Byzantines had anything to do with Arabia, first was an expedition before Muhammad was born and the second was the battle with the Muslims.
Allah's Apostle said, "Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an oppressed one. People asked, "O Allah's Apostle! It is all right to help him if he is oppressed, but how should we help him if he is an oppressor?" The Prophet said, "By preventing him from oppressing others."
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gider (12/07/2015) [-] And did the Romans or Heraclius order the Ghassanid chief to execute Muhammads messenger? No, Muhammad launched an attack where the Romans had to help their allies and so they had to pay for it. This is even where Sura 9.29 comes from, "fight those who do not believe in Allah". Muhammad fills the criteria for a warlord by the looks of it.
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gider (12/07/2015) [-] He did send a small army to attack the Ghasainids because they had killed one of Muhammads emmisaries. The Romans were allied with the Ghassanids, and helped them when Muhammads small army attacked. Heraclius did not have any desire to conquer Arabia, nor was cabale at all after the decades of war against the Sassanids. Muhammads emmisary was supposed to send a message to Heraclius, why the hell would he kill an emmisary before reading the message? It makes no sense. It wasn't even at the orders of the Romans, but by the Ghassanid chief himself.
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vladi (12/04/2015) [-] Be the bigger man Europe, let Muslims build mosques in Europe, BUT keep Saudi Arabian ideology and influence out. That and economic sanctions on their oil 'n **** to really show that we don't take their crap. Or at least we shouldn't take it.
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infinitereaper (12/04/2015) [-] The book of Islam was written by a confirmed pedo who often preached war and violence. ISIS groups and other extremist groups are basically justified according to the holy text.
It's no wonder the ******* are insane.
Nobody ******* thinks about this **** .
All these ******* prophets and all these ******* religions
oh but "they could hear the voice of god"
You know medical science discovered schizophrenia right?
It's no wonder the ******* are insane.
Nobody ******* thinks about this **** .
All these ******* prophets and all these ******* religions
oh but "they could hear the voice of god"
You know medical science discovered schizophrenia right?
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failtolawl (12/04/2015) [-] Christianity sorted itself out only when a third (approx) of Europe died in the thirty years war. Let's hope that it won't take that much before a wakeup.
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gider (12/04/2015) [-] Jesus didn't really preach much about war though. And btw the Bible is not considered to be written by God, but by Christians after Jesus' death. The Quran is considered to be Gods literal words and made to be followed as closely as possible.
Muhammad was a tribal warlord that ****** a woman after killing her brothers, husband and father, burned down the homes of those that didn't come to the Mosque for prayer and tortured a man to find out where he hid his money. Not exactly a good role model, which Muslims consider to be the ideal man.
And infinitereaper, Muhammad couldn't read or write, it was written by his companions.
Muhammad was a tribal warlord that ****** a woman after killing her brothers, husband and father, burned down the homes of those that didn't come to the Mosque for prayer and tortured a man to find out where he hid his money. Not exactly a good role model, which Muslims consider to be the ideal man.
And infinitereaper, Muhammad couldn't read or write, it was written by his companions.
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therealtjthemedic (12/04/2015) [-] Where did he say anything about how they act? He only talked about how the book of Islam is dumb and stupid and i don't like it waah
but then you'd have to actually read the thing you're defending :^)
but then you'd have to actually read the thing you're defending :^)
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anon (12/04/2015) [-] lol then prove that their prophet wasnt a pedophile nor pedofilia is glorified in islam, otherwise your eventual further argument is lost
he said clearly in 1st sentence about pedo activity and about "extremist" groups in 2nd
yet people like you are talking **** about christianity and justifying islam bcuz this or that is written in a book in cartain way, not noticing how they are acting and behaving in real life
he said clearly in 1st sentence about pedo activity and about "extremist" groups in 2nd
yet people like you are talking **** about christianity and justifying islam bcuz this or that is written in a book in cartain way, not noticing how they are acting and behaving in real life
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therealtjthemedic (12/04/2015) [-] What the **** are you even talking about now?
I never said anything about Muhammad being a pedophile or not.
I said that Christianity is equally as stupid as Islam if you actually read the bible. Which I did.
I never said anything about Muhammad being a pedophile or not.
I said that Christianity is equally as stupid as Islam if you actually read the bible. Which I did.
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anon (12/04/2015) [-]
then what's your point of being a smartass and pointing what is written somewhere?
wonder what harm does christianity did to you, this religion teaches about not being a dick to each other, never heard of suicide bombing done by christian.
in short christianity at least creates people functioning in society no matter what is written in books, yet you are putting it on the same level as islam
wonder what harm does christianity did to you, this religion teaches about not being a dick to each other, never heard of suicide bombing done by christian.
in short christianity at least creates people functioning in society no matter what is written in books, yet you are putting it on the same level as islam
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lazypaul (12/04/2015) [-] Well my cousin just moved from scotland to saudi arabia so it's not like white christians or atheists are unwelcome there.
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zamka (12/04/2015) [-] ***** my teachers in college are Americans and British, and we're living in harmony. We don't care what religion you are; Just please don't talk **** about our religion. We don't stop anyone from performing their religion, but when you come to a strict Islamic country; you gotta expect that there are no churches there.
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mytwocents (12/04/2015) [-] When you go to a christian country, expect that there are no mosques, qurans and head scarfs allowed there.
Feeling insulted ? Too bad.
Feeling insulted ? Too bad.
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whatupbiatch ONLINE (12/04/2015) [-] America is a melting pot, not a christian country.
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herparderpington (12/04/2015) [-] You could just go to lebanon instead theres a good christian minority there
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herparderpington (12/04/2015) [-] This is why we need to know more global history in schools.
Remember the crimean war? It was fought over who would be the protector of the CHRISTIANS (mostly orthodox and some catholics especially in lebanon) residing in the middle east.
Remember the crimean war? It was fought over who would be the protector of the CHRISTIANS (mostly orthodox and some catholics especially in lebanon) residing in the middle east.
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kanali (12/04/2015) [-] **kanali used "*roll picture*"**
**kanali rolled image** Posts like these are so dumb. "The oppressive theocratic monarchy isn't tolerant, why should we be?"
How about because we're supposed to be better? How about because our system is built on pluralism, tolerance, justice and democracy, not xenophobia, oppression, and theocracy.
**kanali rolled image** Posts like these are so dumb. "The oppressive theocratic monarchy isn't tolerant, why should we be?"
How about because we're supposed to be better? How about because our system is built on pluralism, tolerance, justice and democracy, not xenophobia, oppression, and theocracy.
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rimbo (12/04/2015) [-] Hear hear! The fearless crusader and liberator of the white race Ben "one man Auschwitz" Garrison won't be silenced!
Those degenerate sand kikes will never willingly admit to their inferiority so in the name of Zyklon Ben we must march to their lands and bring them salvation by making them our pets and slaves. We are Gods chosen people and he is a furious god for he is the one who has send unto us the merciless cleansing machine by the name of Ben "putting the truth in the 6 million" Garrsion.
Rise up! Claim that what's rightfully ours and eradicate those who do not conform to Aryan superiority.
Those degenerate sand kikes will never willingly admit to their inferiority so in the name of Zyklon Ben we must march to their lands and bring them salvation by making them our pets and slaves. We are Gods chosen people and he is a furious god for he is the one who has send unto us the merciless cleansing machine by the name of Ben "putting the truth in the 6 million" Garrsion.
Rise up! Claim that what's rightfully ours and eradicate those who do not conform to Aryan superiority.
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Tyranitar (12/04/2015) [-] Saudi Arabia isn't taking Muslim refugees either. They even have empty tent cities that could house millions of them, but they refuse.
But this was probably made by somebody who thinks Saudi Arabia is the entire Middle-East.
But this was probably made by somebody who thinks Saudi Arabia is the entire Middle-East.
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severepwner (12/04/2015) [-] That still reflects badly on the million of refugees that bypassed this and went straight to pillaging Europe.
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jettom ONLINE (12/04/2015) [-] Historically and abiding by their holy book, which they seem to do to a great deal, they would actually let us in.
We'd be taxed as non-muslims and be treated like second-class citizens, the same treatment Palestinians gets from Israel, and we'd probably get our own areas to live in, and we'd have to work as slaves if we wanted to survive. But they'd let us in.
We'd be taxed as non-muslims and be treated like second-class citizens, the same treatment Palestinians gets from Israel, and we'd probably get our own areas to live in, and we'd have to work as slaves if we wanted to survive. But they'd let us in.
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dehumanizer (12/04/2015) [-] The picture in the oirginal post is photoshoped, here is the real, unedited version.
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dehumanizer (12/04/2015) [-] its so damn cringeworthy, considering how anti-christian jews are
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dehumanizer (12/04/2015) [-] must be the circumsicion screwing up their brain, but yeah its amusing how much of a bitch they are to Israel
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Sethorein (12/04/2015) [-] or maybe it's a symptom of political benefits to having a nice port in the middle east... Let's face it, Israel is the closest thing to a western country that the middle east can produce. Also, you're talking to one of the more notable FJ neo-nazis. If you find yourself agreeing with him, I consider that a far worse symptom of the current state of America.
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Sethorein (12/04/2015) [-] If zionists had the same mentality as ISIS then Israel would have conquered Egypt during the 6 day war instead of stopping at the Suez Canal.
Within Israel there is next to no violence (besides the occasional riot in the old city stirred up by mad arab-israeli youth/jihadi insurgents).
Compared to the rest of the middle east, in Israel you can be: gay, any religion you want, any ethnic group you want, and any race you want without any fear of prejudice.
Seriously, bruh. They're nationalist and have a conscription, but comparing them to ISIS is ridiculous.
Within Israel there is next to no violence (besides the occasional riot in the old city stirred up by mad arab-israeli youth/jihadi insurgents).
Compared to the rest of the middle east, in Israel you can be: gay, any religion you want, any ethnic group you want, and any race you want without any fear of prejudice.
Seriously, bruh. They're nationalist and have a conscription, but comparing them to ISIS is ridiculous.
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Sethorein (12/04/2015) [-] How is "no better than" an addendum to your previous claim "just as bad"? That's just rephrasing the same comment when I totally proved you wrong...
Israel is what happens when you inject a western democracy into the middle east. In order to protect itself it will engage in violent war. Its crimes are no worse than the crimes committed by the states in the Iraq war, and the US doesn't have to face the constant threat of annihilation to validate its excessive violence.
Israel is what happens when you inject a western democracy into the middle east. In order to protect itself it will engage in violent war. Its crimes are no worse than the crimes committed by the states in the Iraq war, and the US doesn't have to face the constant threat of annihilation to validate its excessive violence.
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Shiny ONLINE (12/04/2015) [-] Okay, here's a rebuttal: the Israeli state sponsors Jewish citizens illegally trespassing on Palestinian territory to "reclaim the homeland" and has been caught red handed violating human rights while the US keeps pumping money into them because blah blah Holocaust. It acts just like its Muslim neighbors and pretends to be a victim.
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Sethorein (12/04/2015) [-] citation needed.
violations of human rights are tough to avoid when your enemy uses humans as shields. storing rockets in highly populated areas, shooting rockets out of UN schools. What can be done, y'know? People say "ground war! Do a ground war!"
Firstly, what sane country would risk harm to their soldiers when it is avoidable? Secondly, ground invasions of Gaza for the sake of disassembling their terrorist infrastructure usually kills far more civilians than the other **** the Israelis do.
But yeah, **** the settlers.
violations of human rights are tough to avoid when your enemy uses humans as shields. storing rockets in highly populated areas, shooting rockets out of UN schools. What can be done, y'know? People say "ground war! Do a ground war!"
Firstly, what sane country would risk harm to their soldiers when it is avoidable? Secondly, ground invasions of Gaza for the sake of disassembling their terrorist infrastructure usually kills far more civilians than the other **** the Israelis do.
But yeah, **** the settlers.
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Sethorein (12/04/2015) [-] I mean... yeeeeeah... but you don't trust Hitler's opinion on Jews do you?
It's bad argumentation, but I don't wanna waste my time debunking all the anti-jew propaganda the FJ neo-nazis spew. I known I won't change their minds. It's just a waste of time y'know?
It's bad argumentation, but I don't wanna waste my time debunking all the anti-jew propaganda the FJ neo-nazis spew. I known I won't change their minds. It's just a waste of time y'know?
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Sethorein (12/04/2015) [-] Suffice it to say, America does benefit from its relationship with Israel. If it didn't, it'd fund a popular revolution that would install a pro-american dictator. It'll overlook the crimes Israel commits just like the rest of the world overlooks the crimes Russia, China, and hell... the entirety of Africa commits on a daily basis.
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congorepublic (12/04/2015) [-] Even if this comic had some truth in it... so what?
As the West, we should try to be the bigger 'person', so to speak. If we want to see progress, then let's make an example for others to follow.
But of course, there are already several Muslim-majority countries with Christian minorities that aren't facing persecution.
As a matter of fact, some of the oldest churches are in Muslim-majority countries, seeing how Christianity itself is not a European religion, but one that began in Palestine and then became popularized further within Syria.
Is Saudi Arabia big on human rights? Not really. As a matter of fact, Saudi Arabia is perhaps the most extremist country in the region. But that is in no way representative of all the other countries in the region; just Saudi Arabia.
As the West, we should try to be the bigger 'person', so to speak. If we want to see progress, then let's make an example for others to follow.
But of course, there are already several Muslim-majority countries with Christian minorities that aren't facing persecution.
As a matter of fact, some of the oldest churches are in Muslim-majority countries, seeing how Christianity itself is not a European religion, but one that began in Palestine and then became popularized further within Syria.
Is Saudi Arabia big on human rights? Not really. As a matter of fact, Saudi Arabia is perhaps the most extremist country in the region. But that is in no way representative of all the other countries in the region; just Saudi Arabia.
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congorepublic (12/04/2015) [-] Yes, I know that. My point was that the oldest Christian churches are from presently Muslim-ruled regions.
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congorepublic (12/06/2015) [-] The Muslims blowing up churches are also blowing up other Muslims as well.
Christians have lived under Muslim rule for over a thousand years, including when Muslims had the most powerful armies and empires in the world.
If you really think we seek to kill Christians then we wouldve done it a long time ago. If you're implying that recent political turmoil defines centuries of history, then you are mistaken, sir.
Christians have lived under Muslim rule for over a thousand years, including when Muslims had the most powerful armies and empires in the world.
If you really think we seek to kill Christians then we wouldve done it a long time ago. If you're implying that recent political turmoil defines centuries of history, then you are mistaken, sir.
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thempc (12/04/2015) [-] so wait what's going on with ben garrison? i heard something about people making /pol/ish edits of his comics
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thegreenbutton (12/04/2015) [-] How come its primarily white countries being forced to accept these refugees? Why not any country nearby or Russia, Japan, China, South Korea, The advanced race and civilization in technology that is near perfection known as the people of Africa.
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therealtjthemedic (12/04/2015) [-] ...Because Europe is the most developed area nearby?
If your house got blown up and *********** were invading your country would you rather to ******* AFRICA or Europe?
If your house got blown up and *********** were invading your country would you rather to ******* AFRICA or Europe?
