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My son is just fine without
vaccines. its my chaise to not put
harmful chemicals in his body!
vaccines. its my chaise to not put
harmful chemicals in his body!
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realitycheck (02/27/2015) [-]
"My kid is immunized, and perfectly safe from disease. Therefore your un-immunized child is a biohazard and a threat to his health..." Wait. What?
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padorak (02/28/2015) [-] 
Babies can't get immunized for measles until they are at least 1 1/2.
They are open t the disease while your sitting there like an infested sewer rat...not getting immunized while babies die.
You cannot argue with this. Some people can't get the vaccines due to age or what ever restrictions. You getting one is protecting other people, not just you mister "I like not being immune to deadly diseases".
They are open t the disease while your sitting there like an infested sewer rat...not getting immunized while babies die.
You cannot argue with this. Some people can't get the vaccines due to age or what ever restrictions. You getting one is protecting other people, not just you mister "I like not being immune to deadly diseases".
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armwulf (02/27/2015) [-] This is an often used fallacy that at first glance seems reasonable
1. Anyone with an autoimmune disease often cannot get vaccines for more dangerous conditions. In a population with greater than 90% immunity, they are effectively protected.
2. Vaccines protect from small infection potential, and can make a disease shorter and less dangerous. No matter how strong the vaccine, if you start licking measles you'll probably catch it. Herd immunity applies here as well. You'll notice nobody nowadays has polio, but we still vaccinate for it. The same USED to be true of measles. Now measles is going crazy. "Shouldn't people be immune?" it makes them HARDER to infect, not completely invulnerable.
3. Very small children cannot be immunized until they mature to a safer age, meaning they are extraordinarily vulnerable around any contagion. This is why you see measles spreading rapidly in daycare centers. They depend on herd immunity to shield them until they can be immunized.
1. Anyone with an autoimmune disease often cannot get vaccines for more dangerous conditions. In a population with greater than 90% immunity, they are effectively protected.
2. Vaccines protect from small infection potential, and can make a disease shorter and less dangerous. No matter how strong the vaccine, if you start licking measles you'll probably catch it. Herd immunity applies here as well. You'll notice nobody nowadays has polio, but we still vaccinate for it. The same USED to be true of measles. Now measles is going crazy. "Shouldn't people be immune?" it makes them HARDER to infect, not completely invulnerable.
3. Very small children cannot be immunized until they mature to a safer age, meaning they are extraordinarily vulnerable around any contagion. This is why you see measles spreading rapidly in daycare centers. They depend on herd immunity to shield them until they can be immunized.
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deathtobreakfast (02/27/2015) [-] Well the bacteria and viruses get a host to live and multiply in and become strong making them afterwards harder for other bodies to fend of even with vaccines. Measles and other illnesses that wear decimized to near extinction in first world countries **** up alot of not immunized people in second and third world countries. when more and more people refuse vaccines it will just make the virus have more and more place to live.
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Fgner (02/27/2015) [-] My mom is not vaccinated for measles because she is allergic to the vaccine. Old people have high mortality rates with measles. She relies on herd immunity to not die - herd immunity which is nullified if 99% aren't immune. So my mom should be at risk of death because some **** head doesn't want to keep his children safe?
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bioconstriculative (02/28/2015) [-]
Also, if the disease can continue to infect enough people, more new strains may evolve that are immune to the effects of the vaccines. So, indirectly, the person who didnt get vaccinated ende up dooming the lives of the people who did.
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raccoonwithfruit (02/28/2015) [-] If it weren't for vaccines, I would have rabies. and would spread it, and rabies is bad.
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raccoonwithfruit (02/28/2015) [-] biting or scratching people... raccoons tend to spread rabies that way.
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raccoonwithfruit (02/28/2015) [-] The person replying to my comment is enough of a fruit. But I'll leave you with a gif...
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somenerd (02/28/2015) [-] I understand all of your points of view and I will have my kids vaccinated when I have them, but it is the people's right to be stupid. If the government decides that you need to get vaccines because not doing so puts you at risk, who's to say that they will stop there? Next it will be something essential to freedom and will go downhill very quickly.
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anon (02/28/2015) [-] mfw wizards complain about non-immunization yet they'll never have kids
I don't think anyone's opinion should be taken seriously unless it concerns them. immunized? no children? then you're not going to contract the measles, chill out and let the adults do the thinking
I don't think anyone's opinion should be taken seriously unless it concerns them. immunized? no children? then you're not going to contract the measles, chill out and let the adults do the thinking
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somenerd (02/28/2015) [-] Yes it is. However, in law there is this thing known as legal precedence which is basically if there is already one legal decision and another needs to be made, the courts will typically just follow the rulings done before which leads to one thing after another. My second example would be Hitler in Austria which is discussed in this article
www.beliefnet.com/columnists/on_the_front_lines_of_the_culture_wars/2011/04/she-survived-hitler-and-wants-to-warn-america.html
www.beliefnet.com/columnists/on_the_front_lines_of_the_culture_wars/2011/04/she-survived-hitler-and-wants-to-warn-america.html
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fiahhawt (02/28/2015) [-] wat dis guy said, if the government is involved at all it's probably just because they normally bring awareness to public health issues: smoking is bad for you, don't drink while you're pregnant, you ************* not getting vaccinated is gonna give us all painful diarrhea
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psychedelegate ONLINE (02/28/2015) [-] >Rock and Roll Panda
This is one of the first pictures I ever saw on FunnyJunk, it actually might have been ebaumsworld, idk like 12 years ago give or take.
This is one of the first pictures I ever saw on FunnyJunk, it actually might have been ebaumsworld, idk like 12 years ago give or take.
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databutt (02/28/2015) [-]
It should be mentioned, we are not talking about the flu vac here. We are talking about **** like MMR.
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gigabowzer (03/04/2015) [-]
vaccines are vaccines. Just thought it was worth mentioning.
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gigabowzer (02/28/2015) [-] **gigabowzer used "*roll picture*"**
**gigabowzer rolled image** The only reason why I refuse the Flu vaccine is due to the fact that each time I got it, I kept getting pneuomonia, which is a pain in the ass. I don't know if it was administered incorrectly each time, if the batch was incorrectly developed, or my immune system sucks ass. I have had every other vaccine, but I avoid the flu vaccine.
**gigabowzer rolled image** The only reason why I refuse the Flu vaccine is due to the fact that each time I got it, I kept getting pneuomonia, which is a pain in the ass. I don't know if it was administered incorrectly each time, if the batch was incorrectly developed, or my immune system sucks ass. I have had every other vaccine, but I avoid the flu vaccine.
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gigabowzer (02/28/2015) [-]
I don't know why I got a thumb down. I didn't disagree that anti-Vaxxies are idiots.
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broswagonist (02/28/2015) [-] The only reason you should have the flu vaccine is if you're especially vulnerable like the elderly imo. It's too much of a hassle and most people can survive a bit of flu.
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theseustheminotaur (02/28/2015) [-]
Also if you work in a hospital, or around children.
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greyhoundfd (02/28/2015) [-] You know, you should probably ask your doctor about that, because the kinda stuff that causes Pneumonia is very different from the flu virus, so that could be a problem, or it might be an allergy and you just need a different version of the vaccine.
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gigabowzer (02/28/2015) [-]
I have actually thought about that. There might be something happening when I take the vaccine my immune system, for some reason, just dopes and whatever causes the pneumonia just gets free access to my body. I will contact them when I have the chance, though,
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greyhoundfd (02/28/2015) [-] Make a note of it in case it turns out to be a serious issue. Don't need a member of the FJ family keeling over one day.
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gigabowzer (02/28/2015) [-] **gigabowzer used "*roll picture*"**
**gigabowzer rolled image** I have survived a heart condition, I think I might be fine.
**gigabowzer rolled image** I have survived a heart condition, I think I might be fine.
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sanctusdominus ONLINE (02/28/2015) [-] i just want to get my **** together before i even try any kind of drugs
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lollar (02/28/2015) [-] **lollar used "*roll picture*"**
**lollar rolled image**Behold an new age when black death will be experienced again.
**lollar rolled image**Behold an new age when black death will be experienced again.
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verycoolcat (02/28/2015) [-]
I'm glad I had the measles vaccine... in some third world countries, the measles is still common and when those people migrate to first world nations, they bring with them the possibility of getting measles.
California has the highest occurrence of measles, and adults who were never vaccinated are getting it.
California has the highest occurrence of measles, and adults who were never vaccinated are getting it.
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schafenfreude (02/28/2015) [-]
That's exactly what happened in Berlin. 500 New cases of measles since the new year, 7 this week. Some immigrants brought it with them. One kid already died..
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anon (02/28/2015) [-]
A norwegian author and anti-vaxxer recently made a statement where she apologized to her kid for not vaccinating her earlier. She had done some actual research on the matter and learned that while single components like quicksilver are bad on their own, the miniscule amount and the way vaccines are made makes it not just harmless, but also benefical. And further recommended all parents to vaccinate their kids. +1 to her for using her head in the end.
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fistings (02/28/2015) [-] I actually missed about a week of high school because I didn't have a couple required immunizations.it was pretty sweet, I acted like I was contaminated or something once I got back to school
