it is the biggest piss of in the world it is so cheap because you just need to get one kill with other bowser or gannodorf then they can just auto win by pulling this ********* .
Nah Ganon and Cpn Falcon have a dash move where they grab the opponent and take them down to the nearest platform directly below them (off the map if there's nothing there), and since the enemy is lower it kills them first. So you were right.
But yeah, as drtrousersnake said Ganon's spikes are amazing so if you have good timing you can kill with his dair
Captain Falcon doesn't have a moving command grab attack like you describe. If you're thinking of the side b, Ganon's is a grab which does what you described while Captain does a uppercut punch (overhead punch in midair that can spike) but he doesn't grab.
Whoops, you're right. I was thinking of Cap's dair which is pretty similar to Ganon's. I play those two and Zero Suit Samus the most so I tend to get the two mixed up. Cheers!
You might be thinking of Kirby, his forward and back throw will kamikaze f he's close enough to the edge, at least he used to be able to, I'm not sure about the new smash bros.
Or DK, he can lift opponents and carry them around on his back, for a potential suicide KO
ROB, Kirby, Meta Knight, and Charizard can all do this with their up throw if they're on a moving platform.
They need to be on a moving platform that is over nothing, do the up throw, the platform must not be underneath them when they come back and they can do it.
It's harder with all of those people except ROB whose up throw moves a little slower than the others which gives the platform more time to move.
so ganon's side b in the air can do the same thing except that that need to be over a pit already for it to work. I'Falco's side b has the same effect. A good comparison would be kirby's grabs before they got nerfed.
It's incredibly easy to get out of Bowser's thing unless you have like 70% more damage than he does, and Ganon's is incredibly difficult to pull off and has a really high risk, so they're fair I think.
With browsers thingy, you die first so if he got a stock on you aswell it doesn't work. Also you can steer against it. So if he does that **** you can just hit the stage unless you are on really high percentage.
It's a TAS turbo mode thing, which means that any move can be immediately cancelled if you hit the other guy with it and the game is running at a very slow speed, so that when it it put back into normal speed it looks ******* insane like that
it's not the game running very slow, they game is being played frame by frame to make this fight scene, and the end is edited as both players cannot possibly tie in sudden death
That wasn't disrespect, it was the optimal move for victory. Disrespect is when you've won and go to unnecessary lengths usually spiking when the opponent already can't recover just to **** with them.
I'm referring to how the term is used in regards to Smash Bros mainly. It's been used so much in those specific scenarios that it's kind of got it's own specific definition within the Smash playerbase.
It seems you think they're the same thing when used in context of the game. You don't call someone who spiked you when you're already dead an ass, and you don't call someone taunting disrespect.
Or, you know, you're completely free to do that. Just don't do it when you're in a local tournament or something similar, because people might look at you oddly.
No it doesn't, that's you misinterpreting it and reading way to into it. I mean, unless you've been observing or made aware of my years of playing Smash and gathering information and tips through wikis, replays, tourney vids, streams etc, there's no way for you to deduce my experience or lack of based on that sentence.
Yes it did. Basically, you told me I don't know what disrespect means in it's relation to Smash because you thought >>#62 implied that I don't, which completely denies my experience with the Smash community in the first place. So I explained why and how you were wrong by telling you of my ventures with it.
I'm asking what the point of your very first comment "Being an ass is like the text book example of disrespect." was. My question is completely unrelated to your knowledge about Smash or my assumptions about it.
Whoosie I just pointed out why "being in ass" is basically the definition disrespect in Smash, which is to say that you go the extra mile to humiliate the person or give them a tough time just because you can. That Bowser knew he was way better than Ike and he wasn't afraid to show it by taunting him, which is basically saying "You ain't **** ," and then flawlessly defeating him in one of the most underhanded ways in the game.
Well, this became a pretty lengthy misunderstanding.
I can agree that disrespecting is an ass move to some degree, but that's more of when you have the right to be an ass and will leave the opponent thinking " **** , alright then". Taunting just makes the opponent annoyed, which I guess is the whole point of it, anyway. Or maybe that's just me; I can take a disrespect any day, but **** people who taunt after taking a stock the normal way.
I mean, no one's got the right to be an ass. That's what makes it such a stigma in the first place. Showing off just makes the other guy mad. Unless the guy taunts first as a sign or respect, I pretty much only taunt after scoring. Some guys have the gald to do it before or during a combo and that's just coky to the max. lol, the funniest disrespect fail is when they taunt but then you manage not to get knocked out only to knock them out. You ever do that before?
I mainly taunt in a friendly manner as you mentioned or against friends myself, but if I weren't so much of a coward when it came to going offstage, I'd disrespect whenever I'd get the opportunity. And yes, I try to smash someone as hard as possible when they taunt after I've died, but sometimes I can only manage to grab.
Not if it was a really cool KO. If I land a shoryuken with Mega Man you better gonna believe I'll taunt. Same with Lucas' PK Freeze -> PK Thunder 2 kill Setup. And I expect my opponents to do the same. I'm almost offended if someone kills me with a Falcon Punch and doesn't immediately down taunt.
smash 4 players in a nutshell
most of them dont understand simple ****** gameplay "Guidles" by guidelines i mean general **** not to and general **** to do.
no **** melee is a better game
but you said "you cant be bad in that game"
trust me. you can.
compare yourself to almost any semi-pro player and you are absolute trash.
honestly, everytime i see these ****** "Punish" Videos they piss me off
like the one that someone already put down with the DK against 3 other characters
its just retarded **** with one guy that "Sorta kinda" understands the game yet thinks hes awesome
and another guy that literally has no ******* clue whats going on because he cant follow simple gameplay.
hardly, it was a grab, shield grab, down air.
literally anyone could do it and if the fox had any clue how to play the game he wouldnt have gotten shield grabbed.
both players were stupid as ****
the bowser less so
who the **** instead of trying to recover while they are off the ledge WITHOUT A JUMP attacks their opponent, even if the opponent were not using the first he wouldnt have made it back to the ledge nor grabbed it due to the attack coming off
that last part was just ******* stupid.seriously.
That's not disrespect, that's the standard Bowser strategy if you take the first stock
You have a second stock and it's a guaranteed kill if you can get it since the human brain cannot react in the half frame window you have to Up+B out and let Bowser die first, and even then he still has a stock while you're confirmed dead
Idk man, Bowser has a new combo that can get you to 50 percent in 2-3 moves Down throw to up-Smash or 2 up-tilts Plus Bowser has move potential combos than Ike does imo Also Ike has like no out of shield options