Well intentioned college-age Social Justice Warriors head down to the Amazon to stop evil capitalists from ravaging the rainforest and its indigenous peoples, only to crash-land in the middle of a cannibalistic, torture-happy tribe. Sadistic torture porn ensues.
Which one of you ******* wrote this!? FORTY ******* KEKS!
Or killed. Some uncontacted tribes like the Sentinelese are uncontacted because they ******* murder anyone who tries to get in touch with them or even accidentally ends up on their island.
That's like the whole backstory for the 'Heart of Darkness'. The dude goes mad with power and starts mass beheading's and a bunch of cray **** goes down. I'd still do it though
the statement " we have to protect the land and keep out the invaders, thats the only way they will survive" hit home abit .... europe is headed down down down
I mean, look at those ******* guys, here we are, 2015 AD, there are people pondering technological marvels.
And those precious indians? Living in huts made of mud and straw.
What the **** do they got to offer, what do they have that's so bloody important? Why so much ******* worry about "preserving their way of life"? They live almost like bloody cave mens! Most indians communities that actually interact with people are aware of how sub-par their "way of life" is, so they try to make use of their culture as an income, so that they can get some good medicine, proper clothing, and food. **** their way of life, they know it's ****** .
This whole "preservation" feels a lot more like "Let's preserve their culture, and not let them see ours, lest they realize how ****** they have it, and decide to drop it in favor of ours".
yeah, i deleted my comment because i did not read your comment entirely. I apologize for doing so.
Here's my (personal) opinion: We should (respectfully) show them the ways of our culture, and, if they embrace it, we should let them live with us. If not, let them live upon the lands.
yeah, it is going to be harder and harder to let them be. World is running out of resources and sooner or later people is gonna want their land and resources. So it is either we try to diffuse the situation now and try to start getting them integrated and start diplomatic relations with the modern man or they are all dead within the next 100 years
My grand-grandparents, all 4 of them, from my father side, are german, they fled the war. My mother's side are portuguese, don't have data on the origin, but it was one of those powerful families, if I had to take a guess, probably one of the families that fled from napoleon, but they're all white as far as the eye can see, I know that my grandparents from that side lived with quite luxury, grandmother looks like a 50's model, and grandfather looks like an european gentlemen, can't find a picture of him without a suit. And I'm pale enough that I can't spend more than 30 minutes in the sun lest I get a sunburn, and nurses love using needles on me since it' so easy to spot my veins. Not that that has to do with this discussion.
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See this last bit of uncontacted humanity? lets just ruin that all villy nilly. I get your point, but rarities are valuable because they're rarities. this is possibly one the few scenarios of truly properly isolated humans, and im sure theres plenty of people in the humanitarian sciences would find this priceless beyond anything
If you went to meet them, they would most likely all die from disease you brung. American church missions are the leading cause of death among uncontacted peoples all over the world
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maybe if we get into contact with them, we may transmit diseases and wipe them all out. we're vaccinated so theres no harm for us but they aren't. we could be doing more harm than good by visiting them.
So my question is now this. Why do you get to decide who is significant and who isn't? Can any of us make that call? For example: I deem your way of life is uncivilized compared to mine as in you personally and me personally . You are now unimportant and I can send a wrecking crew to your home. What the **** you got to offer? What do you have that's so bloody important? Why should anyone worry about "preserving your way of life"? That's your line of thought. "I don't see you as important so it's ok to destroy you and/or your culture."
research into how humans got to where we are... these people are where we were over 4000 years ago, we could learn a lot by simply watching them at a distance
How would you feel if a bunch of super advanced aliens came to earth, and declared that the only reasons we don't hear more about life beyond our little planet is because there's a galatic federation that imposes rules that restrict interaction with races that have not reached a certain technological level?
They answer "Nah. You can't. You really don't wanna deal with the ******** we have to deal with."
**** that loss of innocence ******** . World marches on. And if it catches up with them, how can anybody have the right to try and keep them away from it, instead of trying to bring them in and making them more functioning members of the more advanced society we have estabilished.
Which, let's be honest, even with whatever ******** the modern society implies, it's very confortable with the avaiable food, medicine, and general technology avaiable.
No way for me to force those aliens down to give me some of that sweet tech,
And no way to communicate with them meaningfully.
I probably couldn't even trade them anything.
All I can do is give them our daughters and hope for a better future for our people
Comfortable for who ? The privileged upperclass who dont need to worry about bills or how their wages are barley enough to live off of ? This society is only "good" if you come from a background already invested into the local history and culture of the land. Otherwise you're just another minority or low income plebian who was to struggle that much more because of all the lackluster service this government generates.
While I agree about the romanticizing, we still shouldn't contact them and interact with them. I'm fairly certain that they'll die of disease if we were to meet them in person.
We're talking about people that live in the same jungle as them, ever heard of Manaus? not to mention the other smaller cities around it, which would probably be better for transition, since Manaus has some international transit.
Sure, they might catch a cold or something, but hurray for modern medicine. I concede I don't know all there is to know about diseases, but I'm pretty sure they ain't chatching anything too shocking for their bodies, or anything that can't be treated.
There's not just the common cold. There's other illnesses that ravaged people in the old world for hundreds of years that lay dormant, and don't effect us anymore. As a result we never figured out a cure to them, and as such modern medicine wouldn't do **** for them.
It's pretty big stuff for anthropologists. It's like when scientists take advantage of studying stuff such as mental illnesses from an unfortunate situation such as harshly abused children. They can't make the situation themselves, but since it showed up they might as well research it.
It answers how other people live without influence from the stuff we see so much of. If that lifestyle was gone then who knows what we missed out on. Maybe you don't think we'll miss anything, but there's always people who believe otherwise.
However, it is very true that their lifestyle is romanticized. It's just to create interest from other people, the indians themselves take their lifestyle for granted like we do with our own. (I think I remember hearing of a book or something called Nacirema?, describing a 'tribe' in North America, when it was really just describing the average american. Basically means that we can romanticize any culture and make it sound foreign and primitive, much more than it really is.)
Some tribes are completely aware of our advances but for the most part choose to live near the same lifestyle of hunting and gathering. This is usually due to their culture, religion and tradition, and they seem to live just fine in their book. They usually just sell their stuff to tourists or locals.
to add to my last paragraph, those tribes can live modernly, and maybe they do browse on their smart phones, but they'd still be heavy on their own traditions to make a quick buck. Otherwise it is just because they can and it's tradition (like any religious activity).
I'll answer anon, because he doesn't retort to ad hominem on the first chance he gets, so I can assume he's smarter than the other guy.
If it is immoral to create such situation. Wouldn't perpetuating it be just as immoral? You may not be putting people in that situation, but you are allowing people to be in it, instead of seeking ways to take them away from it.
I'm pretty familiar with "modern indians" their lifestyle is pretty much, just like ours, it's just that they have to live on those precarious conditions they may have some food, or medicine, scraped by with donations, or buying with the little money they can gather, I'll adress their income in a sec , and the fact that, the moment some "tourist" or someone who wants to learn more about their culture comes by, they change their clothes into something more "indigenous", and start practticing their "rituals" to entertain the guest, and then sell some trinkets to them trinkets that, if they are able, they'll travel to beaches, or cities to sell , those efforts awarding them a little money to get a bit more of food, or medicine, or clothes. It's not that rare to see village of indians living by the side of roads, they may catch someone's attention that may stop by, so they can play their part as indians or sell some trinkets.
All in all, that's what most cases feels like, indian people being used as entertainment to us, more civil folks. And yes. That's pisses me off.
Its amazing and all that they remain isolated to the modern world. That said they are human, just like all of us. They are not in some child state that we must preserve. They fight, they **** , they laugh at dicks, they do everything that makes us human on a base level.
We shouldn't treat these people like they are an endangered animal species when they are just like us, only they live in the dark.
Last time this was posted I went on a rampage researching this. Turns out there is heavy criticism of this video, as apparently these tribes have indeed been contacted multiple times, and often shoot footage for people "acting" like they have never seen white man before in exchange for goods.
They should decide if they want to make contact? Why? We have more information to make that decision than they do. Why leave it up to them? They don't know we have advanced medicine and abundant resources. Shouldn't that be something they're privy to when making that decision? Wouldn't telling them that require contact?
Really, the only reason people want to leave these tribes uncontacted is chauvinism, like "oh we're so much better than them, we should leave them alone so we don't overwhelm them. To those people I say **** you. We're all human, we and they have the same right to contact each other if we want to.
**catx used "*roll picture*"** **catx rolled image******* you dumb. You think you know what these people need? lol You can't speak for anyone but yourself. I suppose you would feel special if you came to give them your advanced knowledge and **** ! lol. The thing is.... people see how ****** up our world is. people aren't starving just because the world is a little harsh. It's because there is capital to be made in agriculture. These people could become part of an advanced civilization that doesn't give a single **** about them. But that would be great? Let em live in the woods and and be primal. I mean, look at the youth these days! Half of them are running off to learn and become a happy little cog in the clockwork of someone else profiting machine. The other half is running off into the woods and getting ****** up and dancing like tribals! And nobody even knows what it means to respect and cherishing the land is about anymore! Our great little world is ****** . lol. And you think you know something about what these people need?? lol Have we really advanced our civilization just with our medical science, or understanding of the universe? Or are people just another ******* commodity? These people are free, at least, from all the worlds ******** !
Director of Avatar and Titanic, the two highest grossing films of all time. Also incidentally two very ****** films. Here's my counter: Do you think what happened in that movie was real?
I'm not saying we should force them to do anything, I'm just saying we should contact them and let them know "hey bros, lifesaving medicine and not starving to death this way, if you're interested." If James Cameron made that point of view seem evil, then he's even more of a ******** than I thought.
**** son you have some serious beef with james cameron. I didn't know there was anti-mainstream eletists for films and **** .
They're not starving, didn't you see that they have sustainable farms? They don't have many disease as us either, and most tribes have basic medicine. Why not leave them to it, they enjoy that way of life and they're not harming anyone.
Yeah, because as soon as agriculture is developed, people stop starving! That's why nobody has starved since 6000BC, right? Seriously dude, it's more complicated than that. Weather patterns are fickle, rainforest soil is thin due to so many organisms competing for it. One bad rainy season and half those people are going to starve.
Who told you they don't have as many diseases as us? They live in the ******* rainforest, the single most competitive environment in the world. There are sure as **** hundreds of diseases there that we've never even heard of. Basic medicine won't stop, say, childhood leukemia. You saying we shouldn't even LET THEM KNOW their kid doesn't have to die of blood cancer? For what? Remember when I said " **** you" to people in general before? Well now I'm saying it to you specifically: **** you.
P.S. I don't hate mainstream movies, I hate James Cameron specifically.
>be tribe man
>ugabunga everyday with tribe girls
>suddently magic flying creature comes from sky
>man wearing colored clothes comes from its eyes
>he says something
>we dont understand
>yellow smoking creatures start attacking our huts
>jungle men with shooty spears capture our children
>they yell some wierd things to us
>"weeee watn tu halp u! weee breng cibilizaton! wee breng knolege"
>its clear that they want to destroy us
>fight for tribe and die because they have shooty spears
>gg flying man
Am I the only one who sees the obvious metal blade in the image? I don't think they'd be able to manage something like that if they were uncontaminated.
find enough rock to make a blade, grind up iron ore (somehow), get rock to 2000 plus degrees to melt it.
this takes more tech than you think man. especially the heating to melting.