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#156 - wobblewub (01/10/2016) [+] (2 replies)
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>Muslims go to Europe seeking refuge by their choice
>some places take them in with hospitality
>Many Muslims hate, berate, and do a variety of crimes because they think everything's ****** there
>try to justify it with their religion

How has a modern crusade not happened yet? Jesus it sounds like **** over there.
#6 - anon (01/09/2016) [-]
This has been a problem for decades. We got to many, and they just dont even integrate.

I meet immigrants who have lived in my country longer than i have been alive that don't speak a goddamn word of our language.
User avatar #142 to #6 - hasinvadedyou ONLINE (01/10/2016) [-]
Simple reason they dont integrate is Multiculturalism. Theres no reason to change from your origin nations beliefs and customs when you are told that people who dont embrace them are "racist, oppressors". Melting pot has worked better for us (atleast in us) we borrow/share what makes cultures good and hope the bad parts dissolve away. Now, im not naive enough to believe this is 100% true or it works all the time, but it works better than telling people not to even bother trying to assimilate because its "bad".Or that hey are being a traitor to their heritage because they dont keep up every tradition/give in to new ones.
User avatar #150 to #142 - muguwana (01/10/2016) [-]
That's odd. I have muslim friends who are better for this country than my white friends. They don't get rat arsed and run around harassing women and starting fights. I have Jamaican friends who have literally put their lives on the line for me. I don't date white girls because they're literally all dirty skanks. ******* all of them. As a white british male, as far removed from typical white british male culture as can be, I can tell you for sure, white british males are britains problem.
User avatar #155 to #150 - hasinvadedyou ONLINE (01/10/2016) [-]
i never said the individuals are the problem, i said the ideology of multiculturalism tells people they dont have to change if they dont want to which sounds great, like most ideologies but doesnt work as we are seeing now. Of course there will be people who arent assholes about it either way about it, but telling people they dont even need to try is ruining the places they go.. a lot of the middle eastern traditions conflict with everywhere elses. Like the story a couple weeks ago where 2 teens killed a man in sweeden after he offered them food and clothes because he was gay. They wrapped a snake around his neck and tried to say "idk how it got there im afraid of snakes" then after that failed tried "homosexuality is illegal where i came from i cant help it". Theres bad eggs in every region but the % of bad middleastern immigrants seems higher than other places. Im not anti immigration im anti having people act like they arent apart of a new society that they need to adapt to.
User avatar #35 to #6 - orkamungus (01/09/2016) [-]
I think that's a problem that stems form two sides: on the one hand the state, or politicians, have failed provide those folks opportunities to properly intigrate themselves, like language courses and **** like that. On the other hand those third generation turks and whatnot are often so far up their own ass that they won't even consider learning German on their own or adhearing to German laws and customs. Seriously, there are certain areas in some cities where you have to be very careful if you are not Turkish.
Regarding what the original post said: let them have their religion, after all we have the freedom of religion in Germany. I don't mind that they're Muslim. If they start creating sharia-law-zones however, or try to enforce their religion on other people, or act against valid German law, they should get a kick in the balls and be thrown out, end of the story.
User avatar #15 to #6 - siltz (01/09/2016) [-]
Same here in Estonia, only with russians.
User avatar #22 to #6 - bombadealar (01/09/2016) [-]
As much as I like to help them it is realy annoying. Look at first generation of turks in Germany. Nice always work speak german are just great people. Look at my generation of turks in germany. Insulting you as stupid german robbing your **** threatening you with a knife at knight. Its stupid something went wrong in the last 20 years
User avatar #81 to #6 - toosexyforyou (01/10/2016) [-]
Europeans need to look into who's arguing for more immigrants. Surely more immigrants means more crime and little benefit to the country except for certain groups of people. Look into who benefits from that **** even though they know everyone else will suffer.
User avatar #26 to #6 - funnyhard (01/09/2016) [-]
Yet there are idiots who want more of them here.
User avatar #111 to #26 - bigmanfifty (01/10/2016) [-]
Because those 'idiots' have compassion.
User avatar #192 to #111 - funnyhard (01/10/2016) [-]
Tell the hundreds of victims in Cologne about it.
User avatar #139 to #111 - reloadedhamster (01/10/2016) [-]
You cant speak of compassion on the internet, or anywhere for that matter because its now seen as a sign of weakness and stupidity.
User avatar #183 to #139 - toosexyforyou (01/10/2016) [-]
As it should be.
#61 to #6 - royalunicorn (01/09/2016) [-]
welcome to eastern Europe and say Hi to part of russians
User avatar #60 to #6 - bandoslootshare (01/09/2016) [-]
why won't they integrate, I have all these equations that I need integrating
#77 to #60 - anon (01/09/2016) [-]
Because they simply never had to. Immigrants don't integrate when there is no neccesity.

Of course they were offered courses to learn the language and customs, but it wasn't a mandatory education.

The second mistake was letting to many immigrate. The immigrants didn't spread out, they just clustered together and set up their "towns". Like chinatown, but morroco town. They can get everything you need speaking their own language, in the heart of the capitol city.

Money wasn't a problem, the husband spoke our language a bit better but still attrocious. They got simple jobs, didn't involve much communication skills or they collected social security money. Heck of a better live than they had back where they came from.

So that's why they didn't integrate. They were very complacent with their situation, they got enough money from low end jobs or as social security, they weren't held to any standard of responsibility, and they were with enough to form communities that shielded them from interaction and integration into the rest of the society.
User avatar #109 to #77 - bigmanfifty (01/10/2016) [-]
Barack Obama is literally the son of an immigrant... he speaks English ok.
User avatar #121 to #109 - cursedjester (01/10/2016) [-]
Barrack Obama's family integrated themselves into society and were willing to become part of the culture they now lived in. I bet if they had shut themselves off into tight little communities as anon explains and didn't bother, we wouldn't know who Obama was let alone see him become president.
#137 to #109 - mindyourownbusines (01/10/2016) [-]
Nobody was talking of the very specific case that was Barack Obama, but if we were there is a major distinction in that Obama was the son of an immigrant dad who left him in his youth and an all American mom. Plus he was largely raised by his all American grandparents. That's one anecdotal example that does nothing to disprove or counter the above arguments that immigrants will not often integrate into a community unless there are incentives for doing so.
#123 to #77 - zanntaggerung (01/10/2016) [-]
Good points, but...you missed the joke.
#32 - edgecutter (01/09/2016) [-]
I don't know about you, but the only muslims I've been hanging around with lately are the ones from the Engineering Faculty.
They've never brought up Islam or anything like that, unless it was on the morning train newspaper.
And when they do bring it up, it's all around reasonable remarks that they make.

I've had both bad and good experiences with muslims.
User avatar #128 to #32 - YllekNayr (01/10/2016) [-]
It's weird how there are both good and bad people, huh?
Honestly, I don't care for Islam, but I don't understand the hate for all Muslims.
#84 to #32 - anon (01/10/2016) [-]
Wow, it's almost like there is a bad and good side of every race.
User avatar #95 to #84 - wraithguard (01/10/2016) [-]
Well now that's just crazy talk.
User avatar #116 to #32 - hexadecimated (01/10/2016) [-]
Well yeah, if they're engineers, chances are, they're pretty smart dudes.
The problem is that they're less than one-in-a-million when it comes to their people.
User avatar #39 to #32 - orkamungus (01/09/2016) [-]
Are those people exchange students or are they natives?
User avatar #50 to #39 - edgecutter (01/09/2016) [-]
I do believe the overwhelming majority of them are either born here in Belgium, or have come here at a young age.
They generally speak fluent French and Dutch.

However, in the case of Belgium, saying that these people are born here is pretty much pointless, as many whom ARE born here act like foreigners.
As someone else once so eloquently put it
"Morrocans are in Belgium what ******* are in America."
You've got both the good and the bad mixed in there.
User avatar #65 to #50 - orkamungus (01/09/2016) [-]
I'll do something that's equally bold and stupid now and put out a theory here: the people who imigrate into Europe from the middle east usually come from a society where a lot of western values are not kno, which is why they for example bring up their religion at every opportunity, given that in the middle eats religion is a rather central aspect of life. Meanwhile people who have lived here in Europe for the larger part of their lives usually tend to live by western standards, which includes religion being a rather private aspect of life. You can have both good and people in both groups however, with immigrants being willing to intigrate themselves into our society and behaving like decent human beings, while people who have lived here all their lives can just as well be insufferable douchebags.
User avatar #91 to #65 - orkamungus (01/10/2016) [-]
And holy **** is my grammar messed up again....
#86 to #32 - Bloodgartham (01/10/2016) [-]
Are you implying they are despite media depictions rational individuals who have their own thoughts and arn't one giant hive mind planning world domination?
#101 to #86 - captainprincess ONLINE (01/10/2016) [-]
You cant do that
humanize them like that, that's illegal

How do you justify thirsting for their blood otherwise
User avatar #88 to #86 - edgecutter (01/10/2016) [-]
Well, yes.
My intention was to point out this seemingly obvious fact, which people seem to forget every now and then.
Or act like they forgot, if not actually forgotten.
#89 to #88 - Bloodgartham (01/10/2016) [-]
Huh. The more you know I suppose.
User avatar #162 to #86 - sudminator ONLINE (01/10/2016) [-]
No matter how good they may act in public, they're still muslims.....they're broken and rotten people, that's never gonna change on it's own.
#195 to #162 - Bloodgartham (01/10/2016) [-]
GIF
People are people. The only muslims I've met were all (except for a couple) ok people. Neither collectively brilliant nor horrible. Individuals. If someone does you harm it is that persons responsibility. And from your comment the only rotten and broken person I am witness to are the ones who wish harm or disregard others due to their own prejudices.
User avatar #199 to #195 - sudminator ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-]
Believe what you want, these people by their very nature hate and opress women, gays etc. etc. pretty much anyone but male muslims, and how they act in public (in the west) is far from what they really are, look at some videos of jews talking about what they really think of other people, it's like that just much, MUCH worse.
#200 to #199 - Bloodgartham (01/11/2016) [-]
Right. Do these 'inherently wicked by nature beings' exist outside the Middle East too? Like the Muslims in Turkey, Burma, Indonesia, India, Singapore, Azerbaijan and so on? Did you just emerge from the Spanish Inqusition?

And they hate women and gay people by nature? Are you one of the neo-fascist /pol/ migrants because that is probabl one of the, and excuse me for getting off topic, dumbest ******* things I have ever heard. I'm sorry but this is not worth time nor effort.
User avatar #208 to #200 - sudminator ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-]
Have a nice life then sir.
User avatar #201 to #200 - indonesia (01/11/2016) [-]
BEHOLD, I EMERGED FROM NATURE TO TELL GAYS WERE WRONG.

leave that guy alone bruh, he really doesn't know anything about Islam.
he's just complete asshole and stereotypes about Islam.
#202 to #201 - Bloodgartham (01/11/2016) [-]
I know hence I am moving on.

So is this part of your Indonesian Foreign Policy? Just ******* around online?
#203 to #202 - indonesia (01/11/2016) [-]
yes. I'm responsible for exporting and importing dank maymays
#204 to #203 - Bloodgartham (01/11/2016) [-]
Cool. Sounds good.
User avatar #118 to #86 - kiershar (01/10/2016) [-]
im gonna need sauce on that
#115 - akselrk (01/10/2016) [-]
- Be me yesterday
- 2 of my friends and i are driving around town 2pm
- On our way home from checking up on a friend who is sleeping outside Dominos for a year of free pizza (some deal **** if you are first in line)
- White van starts to follow us
- What the **** are they doing?
- Driving side by side with us and looks into our car
- Some muslim ******** driving with a bunch of others
- Driverfriend see who they are and he went to school with the driver for many years
- So we just keep going they are just idiots.
- We keep driving for about 5 minutes and they keep following
- Finally stop to see what they have to say
- ********** goes up to us and starts talking "why the **** you breaking so hard, bruh??? tryina play cool huh?? Since i know you i aint making no mess her get out my face.
- Driver friend and backseat friend are strongmen, both of them bench 130kg each. Could smack this sandmonkey back to dirtland, but we're not looking for trouble so we talk and just lay low.
- This skinny ************ keeps acting like a thug.
- Driverfriend keeps calm and chill.
- ********** starts smacking on the car and starts getting real ******* annoying.
- Step out the car and damn there are 7 muslims just pooring out the van
- Police car comes with sirenes and **** , we were too damn lucky
- Muslims get real ******* scared now
- 3 run away like crazy and gets away
- the other 4 just stands there and saying "We didnt do nothing, bruh you rasist"
- We explain what happend to the police
- **************** goes ******* get cuffed and goes crazy
- Policebro askes us to leave
- Gets in car. So sick of these ***** now.

They are really just driving around town. Every nigth they drive around looking for trouble. Its a familiy in my town, their older sibling has been thrown out of the country and the young ones are just skinny idiots who think they are though. Most muslims in my area are like that. Get them the **** out. I dont want that **** . They are really ******* up everything they get near. Not even ******* joking.




#134 to #115 - anon (01/10/2016) [-]
I've had fights over the years, but only 3 times can I claim that I was completely outnumbered and just plain battered on.

None of those three times involved people from a European ancestry.
#136 to #134 - akselrk (01/10/2016) [-]
Me and my friends could probably take 5 of these guys. I am a bit skinny. But still bigger that 3 of them. And my friends could have fliped their ******* van.
#48 - deadmanlopez (01/09/2016) [-]
who wants to bet this guy isn't even "European"?
#52 to #48 - anon (01/09/2016) [-]
OP is american if i remember correctly.
#107 to #48 - anon (01/10/2016) [-]
>implying only americans know how to use internet and make 99% of whole userbase
User avatar #56 to #48 - miia ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
considering all he does is repost content from imgur reddit etc im pretty sure he's a south african diamond miner
User avatar #62 to #48 - ninjabadger (01/09/2016) [-]
Not me, seems totally reasonable that some people aren't thrilled?

#63 to #62 - deadmanlopez (01/09/2016) [-]
I mean it's a reasonable opinion, I just hate how a lot of times you see "as a european" as if it makes them more credible than if they were american BTW its also weird how you never see "as someone from asia" it just feels so ******** somehow, especially when you know theyre lying. "as a european" is really vague, why not "as a german, Norwegian, irishman, scot ,etc? **** quit trying to justify your view by saying "Im euro, I know what Im talking about" as if it means anything
<------ me judging you, you polish ****
#106 to #63 - anon (01/10/2016) [-]
as an Estonian I'm pretty sure that guy is european because
a) everything we know about Trump is memes on this site and very minimal news on public TV. Average EU citizen doesn't know / care about candidates until someone has been elected.
b) everyone secretly hate immigrants. germans for example do not talk about the immigrants as an issue publicly in fear they get called nazis. even one bad word about them in facebook and they will get silenced. (I worked in germany last summer and the locals feared immigrants going on robbing sprees as a lot of them were sleeping on park benches)

The only countries in Europe who haven't been invaded by immigrants are Baltic countries, Poland and few more that I forgot about because they are too poor to give them fancy-schmancy living.

I'm guessing OP lives somewhere in western-europe with immigrant problems.
User avatar #71 to #63 - shatraken (01/09/2016) [-]
It might have to do something with being in center of events caused by the *********** ??
Having more knowledge, reading more about all things immigrants do ??
Do you want a doctor to hide his education when talking about medicine ?? ( ͡º ͜ʖ͡º)
User avatar #99 to #71 - deadmanlopez (01/10/2016) [-]
but thats the thing, he says hes a doctor but hes still vague as **** , what kinda doctor are you? like actually say german or swiss, not european. He could be some twat scot acting like he knows all about whats happening in paris.
#165 to #63 - vegasstoner (01/10/2016) [-]
he's saying he's european because he's has specific experiences in europe with immigration that make trumps harsh immigration laws seem appealing. he's not saying it to appear more credible or better than americans.
#96 to #63 - ninjabadger (01/10/2016) [-]
Eh most don't specify the country cause then they get targeting responses. Like if a German complained some idiot would bring up WWII or some **** because of association.

Also it's generally better to get opinions from those who have experience directly with something, and a European would certainly have experience in the European refugee crisis that's sweeping the continent.

I'm not Polish
User avatar #100 to #96 - deadmanlopez (01/10/2016) [-]
thats a fair point were all polish on the inside mang
User avatar #33 - Brass (01/09/2016) [-]
That happens when you rob native inhabitants of their identity. People who are born and raised in a country should take pride in their culture and history, which involves a wary eye to anything foreign. While this should not turn result in racism (which does happen) a certain degree of stigmatism is warranted to foreigners (as would be experienced if Europeans immigrated to the Middle East). The natural result is that the immigrants give up, but also blend, aspects of their culture; dropping what is seen as too extreme, but also introducing to their new home aspects both find agreeable. Likewise, over time, the host country drops its stigmatism as the immigrants accept aspects of the immigrants way of life into their culture. Sure their will always be jarring reactionary forces that want nothing to do with each other, but if the immigrants show a healthy degree of deference and the new host country shows an acceptable level of tolerance, then immigration would work out much better, but as it is the host country is showing over-tolerance and immigrants are taking advantage of it to push their own culture.
TLR - their needs to be compromise on both sides, but the immigrants should be the ones to put the most on the table.
User avatar #34 to #33 - Brass (01/09/2016) [-]
**** that smiley face, should have been : D
#13 - crofil ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
well, those guys pulling of a ton of **** in germany might be muslims, but they are mainly just assholes! there are a ton of christians ******* up the same way some of the muslims do and yet nobody says that there are too much christians and that they should not find shelter. and about integrating: if you don´t want to integrate, **** off back to your country, but you can´t say that it is only the muslims. all muslims i personally know are great people and not **** ups, remember kids, there are always assholes everywhere, but not all people are assholes
User avatar #14 to #13 - siltz (01/09/2016) [-]
Ever thought that the ones that emigrate to welfare countries are assholes? True men won't leave their country in ruins, they fight for it. The weak and asshole-y leave. Therefore you get an unproportional quantity of asshole arabs in destination countries and they **** **** up.
User avatar #49 to #14 - badgoodass (01/09/2016) [-]
Only an idiot would fight for a country that's ruled by oligarchs or in general people who try to get most of the money into their own pockets
User avatar #78 to #49 - siltz (01/10/2016) [-]
Hear me. They wouldn't fight FOR the regime, but against it. To make things better, you know. Overthrow the govt and begin anew. But this isn't happening...
User avatar #187 to #78 - badgoodass (01/10/2016) [-]
Sadly most of he time the people leading rebellions will do the same
Just look at how the ex-royalty in the African colonies overthrew their colonial masters and things got so bad the people wanted them back
Or right now in Ukraine, people overthrew a president that was working for Russia but started committing genocides on everyone that isn't a nationalist Ukranian
User avatar #122 to #78 - shrinkzz (01/10/2016) [-]
Yeah, it's not like the government, the rebel organisations with equally ****** agendas and the terrorist organisations have all the weapons... Wat are they supposed to do? Throw rocks?
#18 to #14 - crofil ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
did you ever think why they really leave their country? because thats the only hope for them to survive with their families. the families send the strongest kids and men who may survive the trip to europe over the sea and through the cold winter, and hope that someday they can have a job and their family can live legally in the new country. and not all of them emigrate because of the welfare, there are always the tards that do something like that, but most of them don't. and i don't believe that somebody who thinks like you can understand that those people are going through hell, by leaving their families.
#20 to #18 - siltz (01/09/2016) [-]
Yes. some are really in need of a safe haven. But you mustn't mix up the needers and the leechers, coming to Europe has become a business lately. We have always welcomed refugees, now there are many freeloaders paying a few k for a lifetime of leisure. If they are willing to integrate, that's great, but most of them won't and will be shut in their own communities. Again I must say, we absolutely welcome bright individuals, but we shouldn't allow just anyone in.
#46 to #20 - anon (01/09/2016) [-]
so do you plan on providing any solutions or is this just meaningless platitudes
#47 to #46 - siltz (01/09/2016) [-]
**siltz used "*roll picture*"**
**siltz rolled image** The simplest of solution being closing the borders? Wat you aimin for here...
#25 to #20 - crofil ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
i totally agree with you! thing is a lot of people don´t understand that and they see or hear of the negative examples, and they just think that all of them are that way!
if you integrate, thats the good thing to do, though the german paperwork makes it unnecessarily hard for the immigrants. if you don't want to immigrate, go back to where you belong. it´s the same when you visit another country: you have to integrate yourself, and show respect!
User avatar #23 to #18 - nimba (01/09/2016) [-]
Honestly, if there were an invasion on our soil I would fight to defend my country, it scares the **** out of me but I know it would be my duty for my country.
User avatar #124 to #23 - shrinkzz (01/10/2016) [-]
Spoken as a true retard who doesn't know the first thing about the conflict in Syria. Tell me, which of the villains would you fight for, and how would you let them know, if you love in an area controlled by another party?
User avatar #191 to #124 - nimba (01/10/2016) [-]
> #16
#29 to #18 - anon (01/09/2016) [-]
''Mah wife, children and rest of family might die. Imma leave them here and go get a free house and be paid to not work. I get new wife and make new kids in new country.''
That's more along the lines of it.

They go through several countries not at war to reach those with easy welfare systems. They are not 'fearing for their lives'.
User avatar #16 to #14 - nimba (01/09/2016) [-]
Would you stay to fight? For Syria? I'd stay and fight for the UK but... man, I'd gtfo of Syria the second I heard the word ISIS
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User avatar #68 to #14 - scorcho (01/09/2016) [-]
so who exactly are they supposed to fight for?
The Assad regime? ISIS? Or maybe rather the 'moderate' rebels.
Stop being a retard, them leaving the country is merely a symptom of a much bigger issue.
User avatar #55 to #14 - therealtjthemedic (01/09/2016) [-]
HAHAHAHA
If your country was a ****** dictatorship for your whole life, and it got invaded by ISIS, you wouldn't die for it like a 'true man'. You'd run. Like any sane person.
#40 - kittylactose (01/09/2016) [-]
The past holds the solutions for the future.

well...a bit violent for my tastes
User avatar #44 to #40 - silversea ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
DEUS VULT
#51 to #40 - sheepnut (01/09/2016) [-]
and this time we have MISSILES
User avatar #129 to #40 - MuahahaOfLore (01/10/2016) [-]
I dont think most people realized that the crusades happened after Muslims sacked 3 of 5 major Cristian cities in the span of 100 years. This includes the sacking of jeruslelem
Syria: 634-641
Egypt: 639–642
Mesopotamia and Persia: 633–651
Sindh: 711–714
Maghreb: 670–742
Constantinople in 717-718
Hispania and Septimania: 711–721
Transoxiana: 673–751

Yes raping yes pillaging yes the pope had enough
#83 - solarisofcelestia (01/10/2016) [-]
You're learning. That's good.
User avatar #146 - amen (01/10/2016) [-]
I am wondering, if I ever try to live in america..What do you people think about Europeans trying to live in your country? Consider normal young people, no family.
I want to try it once..To get a job as a senior programmer in NY or Cali once I get some experience here.
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#164 to #146 - Glitched (01/10/2016) [-]
Everything will be fine.
Unless you're Muslim.
Then you can expect the worst.
User avatar #166 to #146 - asotil (01/10/2016) [-]
Do not be a prick* depends on state and location actually
Get a job
Do not talk about "Well it worked in Europe!"
Do NOT call them "Crisps" or "Chips" or "Biscuits" unless you want to learn why you never see fat people in scooters and chameleons in the same room
Get a legal job
If you want to get your dick sucked any time of the day walk into any college bar, put on your thickest accent, and say "I am foreign"
Buy a gun or 6 so we know you're cool. The one they give you at the Immigration Office does not count
Learn to speak about either Baseball or Football even if you don't care about either. I'm a Full Time American and I don't watch or give 2 ***** about either, but "how about them Jets amirite oh what's that they're **** oh well what did you expect from the Jets this year?" works everytime
Do not drink the Bud Light
RIGHT. SIDE. OF. THE. ******* . ROAD
YOUR TURN SIGNAL. USE IT ************
Enjoy the complimentary titties and Race War, glad to have you with us
User avatar #177 to #166 - amen (01/10/2016) [-]
This is ridiculous how a man can get laid in foreign country. I heard that when you go to Russia, once the girl sees you are from the west, she ***** you immediately. Japan...you have to be white.. Here in Czech Republic girls love black cocks(man, foreign male students than happen to be black drowns in pussy here) because we dont have much colored people.
User avatar #178 to #177 - asotil (01/10/2016) [-]
Think of it like this

You can buy some apples
Or you can buy some orange apples
They're the exact same in taste probably
They cost about as much
But they're orange
User avatar #157 to #146 - mortolife ONLINE (01/10/2016) [-]
Actually, ignore that first comment. I can almost guarantee that you will be wholly welcomed with open arms regardless of which European country you come from. While you might get the expected stereotype jokes, they're all in good fun. People here in the US love to meet new people, and most of us have European roots so we feel a little more comfortable with you guys right off the bat. You'll get plenty of questions, dumb ones included, and people fawning over any accent you might have. I'm being completely honest with you too, people here really do love foreigners, despite anything you've experienced online. Personally, I've met Germans, Brits, Swedes, Russians, a lovely Belorusian girl, Japanese, Vietnamese, Somalians, Indians, Iranians, and probably some more I'm forgetting, and they were all awesome people who loved their time here in the States.

tl;dr Definitely go for it if you're ever given the chance to visit or stay for an extended amount of time.
User avatar #167 to #157 - amen (01/10/2016) [-]
I actually wanted to go this year, but maybe after my bachelor thesis for RedHat they will want me to work for them. And that is something i cant say no to. But california has always been my dream, because of the music there..all the bands i love come from California.. i wanted to open a recording studio there when I get older.
Born in the Czechoslovakia.
User avatar #174 to #167 - mortolife ONLINE (01/10/2016) [-]
Well good luck with everything then friend, and enjoy your stay.
User avatar #169 to #146 - ronyx (01/10/2016) [-]
As long as you aren't brown, you're good.
User avatar #172 to #169 - amen (01/10/2016) [-]
I cant even tan
User avatar #175 to #172 - ronyx (01/10/2016) [-]
Then you'll have 0 problems.
User avatar #132 - itskennyandjosh (01/10/2016) [-]
Every muslim i've met reminds me of a vegan, you know why?

They treat their religion as a ******* race and feel the need to tell everyone at all damn times
User avatar #94 - threeeighteen (01/10/2016) [-]
Not sure where Muslims get off debating western culture. I mean I'm not deluded, I know western culture has it's problems, but we're not like Muslim countries where women aren't even seen as human, or where non-Muslims are hunted down like witches.
#154 - godofhorizons (01/10/2016) [-]
Honestly you guys need to get away from the group think. 'Muslims' aren't good or bad. Muslims are Muslims. Good guys are good. Bad guys are bad.
Unacceptable: "Muslims are bad"
Acceptable: "Every Muslim i've met is bad"
Unacceptable: "Black people are thugs"
Acceptable: "Every black person i've met is a thug"
Unacceptable: "White people are racist"
Acceptable: "Every white person i've met is racist"
#163 to #154 - Glitched (01/10/2016) [-]
Unacceptable but true: The majority of blacks in America are worthless.
Unacceptable but true: Muslims believe in the Quran. The Quran teaches hate. All Muslims are bad because of this.

Just 3 out of hundreds of quotes.

2:65 Allah transforms disobedient Jews into apes

“And well you know there were those among you [Jews] that transgressed the Sabbath, and We said to them, ‘Be you apes, miserably slinking!’

2:89 Unbelievers, particularly Jews, are accursed

“When there came to them [Jews] a Book from Allah, confirming what was with them — and they aforetimes prayed for victory over the unbelievers — when there came to them that they recognized, they disbelieved in it; and the curse of Allah is on the unbelievers.

2:191-193 Fight and kill unbelievers until “religion is Allah’s,” i.e. Islamic law rules all societies

“And slay them wherever you come upon them, and expel them from where they expelled you; persecution is more grievous than slaying. But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, slay them — such is the recompense of unbelievers, but if they give over, surely Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate. Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s; then if they give over, there shall be no enmity save for evildoers.”
#180 to #163 - godofhorizons (01/10/2016) [-]
The first line of your comment is unbelievably ignorant so I won't even address that. As for the second line I can present random passages too.

The Golden Rule is implicitly expressed in some verses of the Quran, and is explicitly declared in the sayings of Muhammad. A common transliteration is: ِAheb li akheek ma tuhibu li nafsik. This can be translated as "Wish for your brother, what you wish for yourself" or "Love your brother as you love yourself".

From the Quran: the first verse recommends the positive form of the rule, and the subsequent verses condemn not abiding the negative form of the Golden Rule:

"...and you should forgive And overlook: Do you not like God to forgive you? And Allah is The Merciful Forgiving."

— Quran (Surah 24, "The Light", v. 22)
"Woe to those... who, when they have to receive by measure from men, they demand exact full measure, but when they have to give by measure or weight to men, give less than due"

— Quran (Surah 83, "The Dealers in Fraud", vv. 1–4)
"...orphans and the needy, give them something and speak kindly to them. And those who are concerned about the welfare of their own children after their death, should have fear of God [Treat other people's Orphans justly] and guide them properly."

— Quran (Surah 4, "The Women", vv. 8-9)
"O you who believe! Spend [benevolently] of the good things that you have earned... and do not even think of spending [in alms] worthless things that you yourselves would be reluctant to accept."

— Quran (Surah 2, "The Calf", v. 267)
From the hadith, the collected oral and written accounts of Muhammad and his teachings during his lifetime:

A Bedouin came to the prophet, grabbed the stirrup of his camel and said: O the messenger of God! Teach me something to go to heaven with it. Prophet said: "As you would have people do to you, do to them; and what you dislike to be done to you, don't do to them. Now let the stirrup go! [This maxim is enough for you; go and act in accordance with it!]"

— Kitab al-Kafi, vol. 2, p. 146
"None of you [truly] believes until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself."

— An-Nawawi's Forty Hadith 13 (p. 56)[33]
"Seek for mankind that of which you are desirous for yourself, that you may be a believer."

— Sukhanan-i-Muhammad (Teheran, 1938)[34]
"That which you want for yourself, seek for mankind."[34]

"The most righteous person is the one who consents for other people what he consents for himself, and who dislikes for them what he dislikes for himself."[34]

Ali ibn Abi Talib (4th Caliph in Sunni Islam, and first Imam in Shia Islam) says:

"O' my child, make yourself the measure (for dealings) between you and others. Thus, you should desire for others what you desire for yourself and hate for others what you hate for yourself. Do not oppress as you do not like to be oppressed. Do good to others as you would like good to be done to you. Regard bad for yourself whatever you regard bad for others. Accept that (treatment) from others which you would like others to accept from you... Do not say to others what you do not like to be said to you."

— Nahjul Balaghah, Letter 31 [35]
Other hadiths containing the golden rule are:

Anas related that Muhammad said: "None of you is truly a Muslim until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself". (Reported in Sahih Muslim and Sahih Bukhari).
Whoever wishes to be delivered from the fire and to enter paradise should treat other people as they wish to be treated themselves. (reported by Sahih Muslim).
Do unto all men as you would wish to have done unto you; and reject for others what you would reject for yourself. (Reported by Abu Dawud)
#181 to #180 - Glitched (01/10/2016) [-]
Speaking of ignorant.

Majority of blacks. 51%
They are worthless.

The Quran quotes i put up had to do with other religions.

Your Quran quotes have to do with other Muslims.

So everyone should convert so we don't have to worry about them anymore?
#198 to #181 - anon (01/10/2016) [-]
I don't know if you're a troll and should be ignored, willfully ignorant and should be berated, or you simply don't know any better and should be pitied.
#108 - hikakiller (01/10/2016) [-]
There's some quote floating around about how mass immigration doesn't mean that they integrate, it means that we change our society to fit them. America is messed up enough, we don't need to deal with possible isis members coming into the country. There are places closer to the countries they're fleeing from not accepting refugees, not to mention the ones that are accepting refugees and don't have a welfare system, so they don't receive any. Video related. The Truth About the Migrant Crisis
#90 - anon (01/10/2016) [-]
When trump gets elected we can finally make America great again by deporting all the illegals, with all the illegals gone we can finally gentrify the drug market and once again we can have white drug dealers who don't blatantly steal from you or pinch bags.

Hopefully trump will also stop muslims from being forced in our country so whats happening to Europe will never happen in America.

I'm not racist but I'm tired of the "white countries for everybody!" thing. Asia doesn't share, Africa is currently genocide their resident white people. And white Christians get beheaded all the time in the middle east, And for some reason I'm the racist for not wanting to share my country with outsiders.
User avatar #93 to #90 - skateboardingdog (01/10/2016) [-]
I keep forgetting to log in, This is my post and I accept responsibility for it and the opinions contained within.
#104 to #90 - xxminecraftproxx (01/10/2016) [-]
people thumb this down, but... you do actually have a good point.
User avatar #2 - distortedflare ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
Strange most Muslims I meet are quite reclusive around us. Though a few are complete cunts but then again that is true of every group in this country.
User avatar #3 to #2 - undeaddog ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
¨a few¨
User avatar #4 to #3 - distortedflare ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
Yeah a few. Scotland does not have that many Muslims well not around my area anyway and most I know are pleasant enough.
User avatar #8 to #4 - iloveburzum (01/09/2016) [-]
Where are you living? I'm in the most miserable ******* city in scotland, and it feels like about 1/10 people are muslims.

I get on really well with the ones i work with, but to be fair, they're ex muslims.
User avatar #30 to #8 - distortedflare ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
Dundee
User avatar #36 to #30 - iloveburzum (01/09/2016) [-]
No humans live in Dundee, that's why.
User avatar #182 to #36 - distortedflare ONLINE (01/10/2016) [-]
Get it right up you. Where do you live then.
User avatar #185 to #182 - iloveburzum (01/10/2016) [-]
Aberdeen, which i'll admit is equally **** .

But its **** and full of muslims.
User avatar #186 to #185 - distortedflare ONLINE (01/10/2016) [-]
So by default I win, woo. I have cousins in aberdeen not that bad a place they have some nice restaurants.
User avatar #197 to #186 - iloveburzum (01/10/2016) [-]
I guess you do haha.
#1 - zombieplayground (01/09/2016) [-]
I doubt he'll win No way the republicans give him the nomination. Too many hate him. So trumps gonna split the vote So you guys take him, elect him, and do what we cannot.
User avatar #10 to #1 - cdsams (01/09/2016) [-]
Are we forgetting here why Republicans and Democrats even exist? It's all money. All those super PACs and all those special interest groups, it's all done in the name of funds for the campaign. He is self funded. He wants to campaign using the brand "Republican" he very well can.
#27 to #10 - zombieplayground (01/09/2016) [-]
He can use the brand republican but the fact of the matter is if he doesn't get the nomination from the republican party and someone else does that will split the vote, basically giving the democrats a free win. My hope is both bernie and trump don't get the nomination and both parties split the vote. I just want to see the cluster **** .
User avatar #117 to #1 - hexadecimated (01/10/2016) [-]
>too many republicans hate him
>has the support of almost half the party, leaving the other candidates to fight over the rest
Yeah, they sure do hate him.
#149 to #117 - zombieplayground (01/10/2016) [-]
Should have rephrased it. Republicans in charge. Like the people in charge of the republican party don't like him. He's said it multiple times and if they did like him there wouldn't be any other candidates running on the republican side.
User avatar #9 to #1 - admiralen ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
Im pretty sure they hate the other parties candidate even more than they do Trump though
#28 to #9 - zombieplayground (01/09/2016) [-]
If trump wins and makes an ass of himself (let's be honest. He will.) the republican party is dead to rights for atleast the next two presidential cycles if not more. They don't want him to win.
User avatar #42 to #1 - thealmightyantler (01/09/2016) [-]
If he doesn't win there will be a revolution though
#43 to #42 - zombieplayground (01/09/2016) [-]
No there wont
User avatar #45 to #43 - thealmightyantler (01/09/2016) [-]
There are a lot of people who are ready to revolt. I personally know people like that
User avatar #69 to #45 - scorcho (01/09/2016) [-]
there is always some overly dramatic bitches when the election is about to start.
then, when the other guy wins, they realise that **** all is gonna change and calm down again.
User avatar #53 to #45 - trollmobile (01/09/2016) [-]
you're heavily delusional
going "i'm gonna revolt if trump doesn't win"
is a whole lot different from actually carrying out a revolt.

you'll be met with tear gas first
then bullets.
User avatar #54 to #53 - thealmightyantler (01/09/2016) [-]
I'm not saying I will, and I'm not delusional, people are actually planning **** like that.
User avatar #59 to #54 - trollmobile (01/09/2016) [-]
then they will be arrested or killed.
you POSSIBLY barely have enough people to support him getting elected.
how in the dick would you get enough people behind a revolt to do anything past occupy a single city block?
#147 to #45 - zombieplayground (01/10/2016) [-]
Congrats? You're retarded if you think an anarchist revolution will happen because trump wasn't elected.
#151 to #126 - zombieplayground (01/10/2016) [-]
That changes nothing if he splits the republican vote?
#70 - anon (01/09/2016) [-]
we are replacing our glorious christian heritage of tolerance and love for a religion of intolerance, hatred and savagery
we are poisoning our people's minds with political correctness and making them hate themselves for being white and civilized
we are ignoring the needs of our people to please the needs of foreign illegal immigrants / terrorists
we are poisoning our children's minds with homosexual / transsexual degeneracy approval / support
we are destroying europe from the inside
we are doing ISIS's work for them
User avatar #79 - fyaq (01/10/2016) [-]
bleeding heart liberal retards want them, not the smart ones.

Ironically, theyre also the ones who sneer at the homeless begging for money and tell them to "Get a job"
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