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sedativechunk (01/02/2016) [-] ... well you never really had to "care". But you are allowed to have your own preferences, just saying.
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captainkilljoy ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] You've had the fight beaten out of you then. That's the only way these people win. By you not being willing to stand up against it anymore.
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masdercheef (01/02/2016) [-] "Had the fight beaten out of you" "the only way these people win"
What the **** are you fighting? Nobody's saying you have to change. They just want to be able to call themselves what they want.
What the **** are you fighting? Nobody's saying you have to change. They just want to be able to call themselves what they want.
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captainkilljoy ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] The easiest way I can say it without coming off as massively arrogant is to say I'm fighting irrationality, wherever it presents itself.
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lapsushominum (01/02/2016) [-] People wanna believe they're fighting some big battle to make them feel important.
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captainkilljoy ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] I don't care about feeling important. My entire view on life means that I am among the least important people in the world, and if I were to die along with billions of others similar to me it would make no difference to the world. That being said, I will try and argue for what I believe is right and just while I am still here.
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dangerdaypancakes (01/02/2016) [-] it doesnt really matter what they want to call them selves or what they want to do. it doesnt really affect anybody.
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captainkilljoy ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] That sounds very reminiscent of "ignore the problem and it will go away". The problem hasn't gone away. It does effect people because it becomes more widespread and appeals more to these people who have delusions who otherwise might have mentally stabilized before it was too late.
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dangerdaypancakes (01/02/2016) [-] yeah but is it really a problem? that sort of stuff doesnt really seem like mental instability
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captainkilljoy ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] Yes, it is very much a problem.
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stefonknee-wolschtt-transgender-father-leaves-family-in-toronto-to-start-new-life-as-a-six-year-old-a6769051.html
This is what it does currently. It will only get worse if you keep pretending it isn't a problem.
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stefonknee-wolschtt-transgender-father-leaves-family-in-toronto-to-start-new-life-as-a-six-year-old-a6769051.html
This is what it does currently. It will only get worse if you keep pretending it isn't a problem.
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tylermcall (01/02/2016) [-] That is that guy's, and his family's, problem, not ours. Obviously that man has more problems than gender identity crisis, and he probably would've left his family regardless. It must be nice having so few problems that you have to go find some on the internet.
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captainkilljoy ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] Should we ignore every problem that is not directly ours? The problems like that guy has do not just effect the individual, they have much further reaching repercussions. Do you truly think that others will not look to that, and while most should say "That is insanity", others will say "That is empowering" and think to do the same themselves if the opportunity ever arises?
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tylermcall (01/02/2016) [-] There will always be a few nutjobs, and it's a waste of time to make a bigger issue than it is especially when the repercussion is so insignificant. People leave their families everyday for all sorts of reasons, so just because someone does it over a gender misidentification shouldn't be too outlandish when more people are getting divorced for all sorts of reasons. The most damage that situation will cause is the equivalent of how much damage a regular divorce does, which isn't a whole lot. Listen internet warrior, stop making big issues out of the small stuff, and don't act like people are giving up because they don't want to argue over nothing. People pick their battles, and ones like this just aren't worth it.
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captainkilljoy ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] The same damage as a regular divorce? Because in a regular divorce, 7 children no longer talk to their father because he's off pretending to be a 6 year old child that's been adopted by two dumb cunts. Okay.
Ever heard the saying "the straw that broke the camel's back"? These things add up and if you simply pick and choose things you dislike rather than standing by a set of principles, they will keep adding up until you are beyond ****** . Every one of these 'small things' that you let go are another victory that pushes these people even further.
Ever heard the saying "the straw that broke the camel's back"? These things add up and if you simply pick and choose things you dislike rather than standing by a set of principles, they will keep adding up until you are beyond ****** . Every one of these 'small things' that you let go are another victory that pushes these people even further.
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itsalwaysunny (01/02/2016) [-] That guy clearly has a much more bigger issue than Gender Dysphoria. Wanting to be a six year old girl even though he is a forty year old man, and even leaving his entire family because of it goes above and beyond simple transgenderism.
I guarantee you if transgenders never existed, that guy would still do what he's doing. There are always going to be ****** up people in society, and if they can give themselves an excuse to be ****** up they will use that excuse. He's just hitching a ride on the whole transgender thing as a means to rationalize his psychosis and make himself feel like what he's doing is perfectly fine.
It's completely unfair to use some ****** up guy who's only using the word 'transgender' to make himself feel righteous in his actions, to represent a group of people who are actually suffering from Gender Dysphoria.
I guarantee you if transgenders never existed, that guy would still do what he's doing. There are always going to be ****** up people in society, and if they can give themselves an excuse to be ****** up they will use that excuse. He's just hitching a ride on the whole transgender thing as a means to rationalize his psychosis and make himself feel like what he's doing is perfectly fine.
It's completely unfair to use some ****** up guy who's only using the word 'transgender' to make himself feel righteous in his actions, to represent a group of people who are actually suffering from Gender Dysphoria.
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captainkilljoy ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] That is not what the argument here is. This chain started as a response to someone saying "Whatever a person says they are, fine. I just don't ******* care anymore.". That line of thinking leads to this. It leads to people who think that article I just linked is acceptable. Eventually things like that will become commonplace and just considered an acceptable eccentricity if you give up caring about it, just like transgenderism has and being gay has. I'll repeat it again, the only way these people win is if there is nobody left to stand up against them anymore. We are past the point of expecting others to do it for you because of a lack of caring.
And a not on the gay and transgenderism examples I used. I am not saying that those two things are bad. I am saying at one point in history they were considered traits that made you an abomination, whereas now they are considered things you must accept or you are an -ism of one kind or another. History will repeat itself here.
And a not on the gay and transgenderism examples I used. I am not saying that those two things are bad. I am saying at one point in history they were considered traits that made you an abomination, whereas now they are considered things you must accept or you are an -ism of one kind or another. History will repeat itself here.
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vegasstoner (01/02/2016) [-]
i dont care that the guy thinks he's a six year old. it's leaving his family thats the problem.
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itsalwaysunny (01/02/2016) [-] Yep I see what you're saying now. My bad. I totally agree aswell.
But it's pretty hard to stop this from happening. Like i said before, ****** up people are going to use whatever they can as an excuse to make themselves feel normal. We can't do anything about it without hurting/punishing another group of people who didn't do anything wrong. Even if we do, the ****** up people are probably still going to do what they want to do.
It's unavoidable, and we'd be fighting a losing battle. I agree with the first chain post. There's literally nothing anyone can do at this point but ignore it or accept it.
But it's pretty hard to stop this from happening. Like i said before, ****** up people are going to use whatever they can as an excuse to make themselves feel normal. We can't do anything about it without hurting/punishing another group of people who didn't do anything wrong. Even if we do, the ****** up people are probably still going to do what they want to do.
It's unavoidable, and we'd be fighting a losing battle. I agree with the first chain post. There's literally nothing anyone can do at this point but ignore it or accept it.
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captainkilljoy ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] **** , made a typo. Meant to say "note", not "not".
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fragman (01/01/2016) [-]
This is where the whole trans acceptance ******** has lead us so far. Encouraging people with mental disorders to embrace them had to eventually lead to **** like people claiming to be "non-binary" or adult men to leave their wife and seven kids in order to be "adopted" as a 6 year old girl.
**** this society.
**** this society.
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anon (01/02/2016) [-]
Why do ******** keep bringing that up as if it's some sort of argument?
There are demented, twisted individuals from every section of society, and at the very least, what that guy's doing doesn't affect anybody else.
Bet I wouldn't need to search very hard to find people like you, whatever your race, sexual orientation, nationality, etc, who are rapists, serial killers, torturers, Nazis, pedophiles.
There are demented, twisted individuals from every section of society, and at the very least, what that guy's doing doesn't affect anybody else.
Bet I wouldn't need to search very hard to find people like you, whatever your race, sexual orientation, nationality, etc, who are rapists, serial killers, torturers, Nazis, pedophiles.
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hkkkkkk (01/02/2016) [-]
It's not a mental disorder. You and the whole circle-jerk here are just ignorantly stupid.
Sex and gender aren't the same thing. Sex is binary, and refers to the genitalia. Gender is simply, say, how feminine you are. It's a continuum.
Ever shave your beard? Congrats, you're not on the extreme masculine side of the gender spectrum. Nobody is. Really, it's not rocket science.
Sex and gender aren't the same thing. Sex is binary, and refers to the genitalia. Gender is simply, say, how feminine you are. It's a continuum.
Ever shave your beard? Congrats, you're not on the extreme masculine side of the gender spectrum. Nobody is. Really, it's not rocket science.
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anon (01/02/2016) [-]
Congratulations, you've made an argument against yourself.
If shaving your beard makes you a less masculine male, why are trannies not just "feminine males"
Oh wait, that's what they are. So when we say "he", we're actually right. Interesting.
Keep pretending you know better and everyone who disagrees with you is just some backwater hick.
You do so enjoy wishing you were superior and knew everything don't you?
Why don't you just identify as superior so that no one could tell you otherwise?
If shaving your beard makes you a less masculine male, why are trannies not just "feminine males"
Oh wait, that's what they are. So when we say "he", we're actually right. Interesting.
Keep pretending you know better and everyone who disagrees with you is just some backwater hick.
You do so enjoy wishing you were superior and knew everything don't you?
Why don't you just identify as superior so that no one could tell you otherwise?
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fedexman (01/02/2016) [-] Did feminine men forge the mighty United States? Did faggots push western expansion and manifest destiny? Did some pussy minded dick taking mentally diseased tranny form the mightiest navy in the world and display the full dominance of the US military to show we speak softly and carry a big stick? Hell no the mighty empire of Rome started it's decline because of the vulgarities and sexual misdirection that started in the capital causing its citizens to steadily care less about hard work and more about the pleasures of life hiring their military away to the foreigners, the barbarians and their original enemies. Poor leadership from emperors who indulged their unnatural lusts and couldn't are less about the mighty empire they were to govern. They forgot their origins, that they were created by the humble, hardworking man if we lose that... we will have lost everything and be sure to follow in Rome's footsteps.
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majestispaceduck (01/02/2016) [-] Technically, from the time i was 10, I've never been clean shaven, where does that put me?
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fragman (01/02/2016) [-]
Let's see what we refer to as "it" here... I am talking about transsexualism, transvestism and other gender identity disorders. I am not talking about a guy liking romcoms or shaving, where the **** did you get that idea?
Now that "it" is cleared up:
It's not a mental disorder according to you and some other PC ******** spewers.
It is however a mental disorder according to the WHO since transsexualism is classified in ICD-10 under F64. The SJW crowd >would< probably force the WHO to remove that except as long as it's on that list there's a chance to get public healthcare to cover nonsense like sex change operations.
Being trans doesn't devalue a person, but encouraging someone to endulge on that nonsense devalues the encouraging party. You wouldn't encourage an anorexic to go lose some weight because it's a ******* despicable thing to push people in the direction of their mental disorder.
Just because we've started redefining terms to better fit the narrative doesn't mean I have to accept that crap in any way, much less as long as the official definitions haven't been changed.
Now that "it" is cleared up:
It's not a mental disorder according to you and some other PC ******** spewers.
It is however a mental disorder according to the WHO since transsexualism is classified in ICD-10 under F64. The SJW crowd >would< probably force the WHO to remove that except as long as it's on that list there's a chance to get public healthcare to cover nonsense like sex change operations.
Being trans doesn't devalue a person, but encouraging someone to endulge on that nonsense devalues the encouraging party. You wouldn't encourage an anorexic to go lose some weight because it's a ******* despicable thing to push people in the direction of their mental disorder.
Just because we've started redefining terms to better fit the narrative doesn't mean I have to accept that crap in any way, much less as long as the official definitions haven't been changed.
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alucardhell ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] That is a combination of sex and gender. The brain development and sexual development happen at different times in vitro, if the chemical balance for the appropriate gender is off from what the sex is. A similar effect happens to cause gay/lesbian vs the standard straight. There is more to it than that, it is a very complicated bio-chemical system that requires 60 page PhD papers to explain fully.
