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platinumaltaria (01/01/2016) [-] >makes accurate statement
>downthumbs
It's ok man, let it happen.
>downthumbs
It's ok man, let it happen.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] No it actually doesn't. But that's ok, you can identify as being right.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] You mean to tell me you don't have a distinct personality? Because that is a hard sell.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] No, that's called fantasy. Did you learn english? Identity is what you are, fantasy is what you are not.
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tenaciouslee ONLINE (01/01/2016) [-] None of those are ******* real, you inbred ********* .
You've got men and women.
For men, it's he/him, for women, it's she/her.
If you're a man, you're a man, you don't "identify" as anything.
Same goes if you're a woman.
It's literally that simple.
But **** all these studies in biology, amirite? It's THE CURRENT YEAR.
You've got men and women.
For men, it's he/him, for women, it's she/her.
If you're a man, you're a man, you don't "identify" as anything.
Same goes if you're a woman.
It's literally that simple.
But **** all these studies in biology, amirite? It's THE CURRENT YEAR.
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dannyredwizard (01/02/2016) [-] I'm not normally one to agree with platinumaltaria, and I don't know what they are, but there is a medical condition where you can be born intersex.
It means you have some variation of both. It's rare, but someone who appears male could have ovaries instead of testicles, someone who appears to be a girl could have testicles where the ovaries should be. It could also be one of each, each of these cases is a very rare genetic defect.
I'm not going to get into the argument about identifying since I don't give two ***** about gender identification but hermaphrodites, while rare, are people with a serious medical condition that causes serious medical issues. Imagine spending your whole life thinking you're a boy, hitting puberty, and suddenly instead of growing manlier, you grow curvier, more like a girl than a boy, and worst of all, your ovaries, which you always thought were testicles release blood.
I don't think you're stupid for not knowing this though, this is pretty niche information because it's so god damn rare for it to happen.
It means you have some variation of both. It's rare, but someone who appears male could have ovaries instead of testicles, someone who appears to be a girl could have testicles where the ovaries should be. It could also be one of each, each of these cases is a very rare genetic defect.
I'm not going to get into the argument about identifying since I don't give two ***** about gender identification but hermaphrodites, while rare, are people with a serious medical condition that causes serious medical issues. Imagine spending your whole life thinking you're a boy, hitting puberty, and suddenly instead of growing manlier, you grow curvier, more like a girl than a boy, and worst of all, your ovaries, which you always thought were testicles release blood.
I don't think you're stupid for not knowing this though, this is pretty niche information because it's so god damn rare for it to happen.
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tenaciouslee ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] >>#86
I addressed his comment about intersex births.
And yeah, those happen, but common medical science states that dick'n'nuts equals a dude, whilst a virginmobile = woman.
I addressed his comment about intersex births.
And yeah, those happen, but common medical science states that dick'n'nuts equals a dude, whilst a virginmobile = woman.
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dannyredwizard (01/02/2016) [-]
But sometimes the dick is born without nuts, very rarely. I can understand common medical science referring to everyone as stated but if you are unlucky enough to be born both that's gotta suck.
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anon (01/02/2016) [-]
Must be sort of weird knowing you're this generation's homophobe, huh?
Not taking a side here either way, but it's funny. Grandkids will be all "Oh, yeah... Guess we gotta send Transphobic Grandpa Lee a Christmas card... or whatever... Ugh, you'd think he'd get over it sometime, but no, it's okay just because he's old..."
Not taking a side here either way, but it's funny. Grandkids will be all "Oh, yeah... Guess we gotta send Transphobic Grandpa Lee a Christmas card... or whatever... Ugh, you'd think he'd get over it sometime, but no, it's okay just because he's old..."
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anon (01/02/2016) [-]
"He doesn't believe us when we blatantly lie!"
"You're worse than Hitler!"
how about this, I'm gonna go out and buy a peice of **** beaten up old ******* car, and i'm gonna call it a ferrari, before then going out to sell it.
"That's not a ferrari"
"IT IDENTIFIES AS A FERRARI YOU ******* ******** , EITHER BUY IT AT FULL FERRARI PRICE OR LEAVE"
"You're worse than Hitler!"
how about this, I'm gonna go out and buy a peice of **** beaten up old ******* car, and i'm gonna call it a ferrari, before then going out to sell it.
"That's not a ferrari"
"IT IDENTIFIES AS A FERRARI YOU ******* ******** , EITHER BUY IT AT FULL FERRARI PRICE OR LEAVE"
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tenaciouslee ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] I don't give a **** .
I'm not going to change my beliefs because it's THE CURRENT YEAR.
Medical anomalies are not hard science. If you're trans? That's fine, cool, I don't give a **** , but don't come to me asking for acceptance.
I'm not going to have grandkids either, because generally, my politics are offensive and that won't get me laid, which, refer back to point A, no **** given.
I'm not going to change my beliefs because it's THE CURRENT YEAR.
Medical anomalies are not hard science. If you're trans? That's fine, cool, I don't give a **** , but don't come to me asking for acceptance.
I'm not going to have grandkids either, because generally, my politics are offensive and that won't get me laid, which, refer back to point A, no **** given.
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opticmonkey ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] Wtf are you talking about hard science, thats just a meaningless buzzword. Birth defects aren't some unproven medical hypothesis, they're conditions that are known to exist, and many of them have even been extensively studied.
And you can't get laid cuz of your politics? Thats the most pathetic excuse I've ever heard. Seriously I've seen trolls on this site that come off as less ignorant than you
And you can't get laid cuz of your politics? Thats the most pathetic excuse I've ever heard. Seriously I've seen trolls on this site that come off as less ignorant than you
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tenaciouslee ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] My politics are a mere factor in my not-getting-laid formula.
The other's being incredible ugliness and terrible social skills.
And what I meant by hard science are common occurrences in nature.
What I should've said are common occurrences.
The other's being incredible ugliness and terrible social skills.
And what I meant by hard science are common occurrences in nature.
What I should've said are common occurrences.
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dannyredwizard (01/02/2016) [-]
Well, fair enough then. I still think they should at least be called hermaphrodites since they are the most literal form of the word medically possible. Especially the ones born with one testicle AND one ovary.
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goodername (01/02/2016) [-]
While technically it is true that there are male, female, and intersex, I feel like the PC crowd are pushing this as if it were much more common place and that it is a prominent issue that intersex people are being overlooked. It would be like if people started getting upset if you said that humans have 2 arms because in some cases people are be born with a different amount of arms than 2.
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dannyredwizard (01/02/2016) [-]
I think it'd be more a case of people getting mad from losing limbs in disfiguring incidents if we said humans have 2 of each limb.
But I see your point.
I mean, intersex people ARE overlooked, but they're really rare anyway.
Though to be honest I'm now imagining someone going up to a guy who lost his arm somehow and telling him he's not people because people have 2 arms.
But I see your point.
I mean, intersex people ARE overlooked, but they're really rare anyway.
Though to be honest I'm now imagining someone going up to a guy who lost his arm somehow and telling him he's not people because people have 2 arms.
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goodername (01/02/2016) [-]
Everyone knows that people with less than 2 arms are subhuman and those with more that two arms are superior.
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dannyredwizard (01/02/2016) [-]
I strive to be accurate. And when I'm unsure I stay the **** back and study until I decide which side of an argument is accurate.
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tenaciouslee ONLINE (01/01/2016) [-] Congratulations, you've got your balls off, or whatever.
Good for you, you've turned yourself into a woman, therefore, you're gonna be called a she.
If you're trans, that's fine, but you've got to have the **** beneath the belt to back it up.
Good for you, you've turned yourself into a woman, therefore, you're gonna be called a she.
If you're trans, that's fine, but you've got to have the **** beneath the belt to back it up.
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platinumaltaria (01/01/2016) [-] No I actually don't. It's not my responsibility to give you a reason not to be an asshole. But what does it matter, I know what I am, I do not require your approval.
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tenaciouslee ONLINE (01/01/2016) [-] You're a man, or a woman.
If you're born a man, and cut your balls off to be a woman, congratulations, Caitlyn Jenner, you've made yourself a woman, but you've got to have the equipment to actually be a woman, otherwise you're a ****** up dude.
Same goes from woman turned man, gotta have a dick or you're still a chick.
But if you consider me an asshole, I can't help that.
If you're born a man, and cut your balls off to be a woman, congratulations, Caitlyn Jenner, you've made yourself a woman, but you've got to have the equipment to actually be a woman, otherwise you're a ****** up dude.
Same goes from woman turned man, gotta have a dick or you're still a chick.
But if you consider me an asshole, I can't help that.
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platinumaltaria (01/01/2016) [-] You're ignorance of the subject is not aiding your argument, I suggest you inform yourself before attempting to argue.
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tenaciouslee ONLINE (01/01/2016) [-] Alright, then, compadre.
Enlighten me, how exactly am I ignorant?
Enlighten me, how exactly am I ignorant?
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Well let's take a look at your previous comment, shall we? I'll break it down into manageable bites.
"You're a man, or a woman." - Right, so that's pretty much accurate, but doesn't account for the intersex population, who's chromosomes are not of the normal configuration.
"and cut your balls off to be a woman" - No. That's being silly. Honestly I've no idea where this predilection comes from; transpeople do not "become" anything, they are a thing, which just happens to not correspond with their biological sex.
Biological sex is a strong marker for gender, as it is the primary motivator for hormone production. However it's not the only factor, thus a small amount of the population are transgender.
"Caitlyn Jenner" is nothing more than a con, she's demonstrated on numerous occasions to be using the progressive media as a tool to gain popularity. But she's not trans.
"you've got to have the equipment" - My "equipment" is of no concern to you unless you're planning on having sex with me. So unless that is the case kindly **** off.
I don't consider you an asshole, you're just talking out of your ass.
"You're a man, or a woman." - Right, so that's pretty much accurate, but doesn't account for the intersex population, who's chromosomes are not of the normal configuration.
"and cut your balls off to be a woman" - No. That's being silly. Honestly I've no idea where this predilection comes from; transpeople do not "become" anything, they are a thing, which just happens to not correspond with their biological sex.
Biological sex is a strong marker for gender, as it is the primary motivator for hormone production. However it's not the only factor, thus a small amount of the population are transgender.
"Caitlyn Jenner" is nothing more than a con, she's demonstrated on numerous occasions to be using the progressive media as a tool to gain popularity. But she's not trans.
"you've got to have the equipment" - My "equipment" is of no concern to you unless you're planning on having sex with me. So unless that is the case kindly **** off.
I don't consider you an asshole, you're just talking out of your ass.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] I didn't thumb you down, I hardly ever thumb. You are not worthy xD
I made accurate statements based on scientific fact, I implore you to do the same.
I made accurate statements based on scientific fact, I implore you to do the same.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Well I didn't thumb anyone else down, if that helps...
I am what you call "a teenager with gender problems"
I am what you call "a teenager with gender problems"
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Well that's nice, though I would ask why you're undermining me?
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onerace (01/02/2016) [-] Because I hear this all the time about people with gender issues and I know it's a problem for them I actually had it. Listen and listen well there's no third, forth gender your born male or female and if you change don't forget about it cause even if you hate it that's what you are or we're so if your not going to change your gender or anything don't continue to **** the same thing for years this is the only time in human history where we have to make a fake gender for people's feelings. It's not a problem people are making it one.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Pls punctuation.
There are two factions of problem makers, the progressives who decided to take it upon themselves to campaign like retards, and the reactionaries who want to take it back to the 1800s slaves and all.
There are two factions of problem makers, the progressives who decided to take it upon themselves to campaign like retards, and the reactionaries who want to take it back to the 1800s slaves and all.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Oh, I was unaware of them, sorry. But mine are not a phase, nor are they really problems.
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onerace (01/02/2016) [-] How so I battled with trying to assert my gender in my mind for a long time till I met the girl i now love and now tho I'm still a bisexual male who's still attracted to others I know this is who i am as a human being. I'm myself I need no extra things attached nor token off.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Right... you're a guy who is attracted to both men and women, currently with a woman. You're still bi...
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Well then you were never actually bisexual, now were you?
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onerace (01/02/2016) [-] Just remember be glad your you and not some Adrian dude getting mauled or having his head blown off. theirs a lot more to worry about in life this is just another thing people do to procrastinate. Don't do it and your gender problems are a phase no need to worry about it it'll smooth out.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Well yeah, but that's probably going to make it easier to get rid of them.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Typically they're flag-shipped by the terms SJW and feminism, and /pol/.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Go away, I've already told you you're both dumb and wrong.
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ohemgeezus (01/02/2016) [-] Are you ******* retarded? You claimed you didn't thumb anyone down, I linked a comment that you thumbed down
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] That wasn't an argument that was a statement about my credibility.
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ohemgeezus (01/02/2016) [-] And? You claimed you didn't thumb anyone else did, but you did.
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tenaciouslee ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] I've got something to break to you, hombre.
Let's look at part 1: The weird chromosome configuration is a scientific fluke, people are born that way, sure, but it's not common.
Part 2: They do become a woman. Rules of nature say that dick + balls = man, and vagooblegoo = woman.
Part 3: I agree with you there.
Part 4: Refer to part 2.
Thems the rules of nature, ******* .
Let's look at part 1: The weird chromosome configuration is a scientific fluke, people are born that way, sure, but it's not common.
Part 2: They do become a woman. Rules of nature say that dick + balls = man, and vagooblegoo = woman.
Part 3: I agree with you there.
Part 4: Refer to part 2.
Thems the rules of nature, ******* .
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] 1) So the heck what if it's not common, it EXISTS.
2) There are no "rules of nature" jesus **** why has the world become this.
2) There are no "rules of nature" jesus **** why has the world become this.
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tenaciouslee ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] Yeah, it exists, sure, but it's not common science, but you win that point.
And yes, there are rules of nature, get used to it, the world or Nature itself will not change because of your anomaly/feelings.
And yes, there are rules of nature, get used to it, the world or Nature itself will not change because of your anomaly/feelings.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] I mean **** the category of "people who have been to space" is smaller than that.
You see it's funny because I can use the same argument; my existence is not predicated on your feelings either. I for one know I exist, therefore you are never going to persuade me otherwise.
You see it's funny because I can use the same argument; my existence is not predicated on your feelings either. I for one know I exist, therefore you are never going to persuade me otherwise.
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tenaciouslee ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] Congratulations, you exist and you know you do.
Do something with it other than convincing strangers on the internet that you matter.
Do something with it other than convincing strangers on the internet that you matter.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] I don't matter, I'm telling you that I exist so that you can no longer claim ignorance.
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tenaciouslee ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] Can I ask you something?
Is it scientifically impossible for you to say what the **** lurks in your trousers?
I was reading your most political talk with zourch and when he asked you just what the **** you were, you pulled a Carly Fiorina and so elegantly danced around the question in a fashion that would make the Black ******* Swan jealous.
What the hell are you, exactly?
Is it scientifically impossible for you to say what the **** lurks in your trousers?
I was reading your most political talk with zourch and when he asked you just what the **** you were, you pulled a Carly Fiorina and so elegantly danced around the question in a fashion that would make the Black ******* Swan jealous.
What the hell are you, exactly?
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] No, I just don't get why it's important. like jesus buy me a drink first!
I'm a people.
I'm a people.
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tenaciouslee ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] This isn't a tough question, jefe, all you have to do is say, "I'm a dude, I'm a chick, I'm a trans man to woman, a trans woman to man, or something else." Unless your gender is just totally incomprehensible to modern science, this should not be a hard question to answer.
The answer doesn't have to be lewd or anything, but **** , give us something to go on.
The answer doesn't have to be lewd or anything, but **** , give us something to go on.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] That autism also exists... Which proves my point.
Does it particularly matter? We're discussing gender, not sex.
Does it particularly matter? We're discussing gender, not sex.
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zourch (01/02/2016) [-] Oh look at that you didn't answer my question big surprise.
for the record every comment I've ever seen you post has been nothing but straight asswater. you sound so pretentious and ignorant. Talking higher above everyone
else just because you have a different opinion that's uncommon and unpopular.
and If anybody disagrees then we simply can't perceive it.
And you have such a condescending attitude.
you are either a long way from tumblr or the stealthiest troll on this website.
either way **** you.
for the record every comment I've ever seen you post has been nothing but straight asswater. you sound so pretentious and ignorant. Talking higher above everyone
else just because you have a different opinion that's uncommon and unpopular.
and If anybody disagrees then we simply can't perceive it.
And you have such a condescending attitude.
you are either a long way from tumblr or the stealthiest troll on this website.
either way **** you.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Guess what, that's ******* intimate information. But hey, how about I give you my address and credit card details whilst I'm at it.
I talk above some people because some people are ******* inferior; take the people I'm currently stamping through the ******* floor who think humans are multiple different species...
It is to be expected that to a person who's sex and gender correspond that the two seem inseparable, but they in fact are. So gg, no re.
And really, the old "back to tumblr"? You're the one here begging me to leave your safe space ;)
I talk above some people because some people are ******* inferior; take the people I'm currently stamping through the ******* floor who think humans are multiple different species...
It is to be expected that to a person who's sex and gender correspond that the two seem inseparable, but they in fact are. So gg, no re.
And really, the old "back to tumblr"? You're the one here begging me to leave your safe space ;)
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zourch (01/02/2016) [-] if you keep your gender as secretive as your "address and credit card details"
then you must have some ****** up insecure issues.
that's not intimate information its health regarding information like seriously what
did you do do your parts bruh
when the doctor needs to see yo dick what the ***** gonna be down there?
and yes I want you to go back to tumblr because you're giving me a headache
then you must have some ****** up insecure issues.
that's not intimate information its health regarding information like seriously what
did you do do your parts bruh
when the doctor needs to see yo dick what the ***** gonna be down there?
and yes I want you to go back to tumblr because you're giving me a headache
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zourch (01/02/2016) [-] but your not female though.
according to yourself you're a "transperson"
remember:
/Gender+inequality/funny-pictures/5750997/57
and you should be sorry. Funnyjunk is the only place where the comment
section is bearable and you're ruining it by being here.
according to yourself you're a "transperson"
remember:
/Gender+inequality/funny-pictures/5750997/57
and you should be sorry. Funnyjunk is the only place where the comment
section is bearable and you're ruining it by being here.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Ok that's cool but I still have a gender... Trans isn't a gender.
Did you just... you know normally people don't actually go full retard but wow, you have gone waaaay beyond. Did you genuinely just ask me to leave your safe space? Did that concept somehow escape your brain and get sent.
******* hell, the world is a mess. Even FJ has people complaining about other ideas.
Did you just... you know normally people don't actually go full retard but wow, you have gone waaaay beyond. Did you genuinely just ask me to leave your safe space? Did that concept somehow escape your brain and get sent.
******* hell, the world is a mess. Even FJ has people complaining about other ideas.
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zourch (01/02/2016) [-] you said you were a girl that's a claim, your gender says you're a female that's another claim. I really don't like talking to you. your logic is better understood as incoherent
ramblings of a retarded cancer patient.
and trying to have a conversation with you is as easy as trying to fold a bowling ball
ramblings of a retarded cancer patient.
and trying to have a conversation with you is as easy as trying to fold a bowling ball
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Well since I understand that gender and sex are distinct it's not too hard to see how being female and being a girl are not the same thing.
I genuinely don't understand what's hard about the concept, but more importantly I don't get why you're so voraciously trying to deny reality in favour of your more limited view, it makes no sense.
I genuinely don't understand what's hard about the concept, but more importantly I don't get why you're so voraciously trying to deny reality in favour of your more limited view, it makes no sense.
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zourch (01/02/2016) [-] you're really passing through the outer limits there johnny.
gather around class it seems as if this specimen perceives his
mentality higher above anyone else. Remember its platinumaltaria's world, we're
just living in it.
wake up and smell the coffee, that dick means you're male ergo not female
gather around class it seems as if this specimen perceives his
mentality higher above anyone else. Remember its platinumaltaria's world, we're
just living in it.
wake up and smell the coffee, that dick means you're male ergo not female
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] I never claimed to be female. You do understand that strawmen are a bad thing?
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Except I haven't, because I'm right, and so far all you've done is whine like a bitch that "is not like that mang". The only reason you think that is because that's your experience of reality, but you're personal experience doesn't mean **** when talking about humanity as a whole.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Yes. Sex and gender are distinct, but I deny neither.
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zourch (01/02/2016) [-] If its that hard of a question for you to answer then you are denser then we thought
its simple look down and type what you see. if that's too hard for you, if you spasm off to an unrelated matter and start sucking your own dick again then
you should be aware of your own autism by then
its simple look down and type what you see. if that's too hard for you, if you spasm off to an unrelated matter and start sucking your own dick again then
you should be aware of your own autism by then
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] I have a penis, what concern that is of yours I am yet to know.
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zourch (01/02/2016) [-] What are you right about?
that nobody wants to hear what you have to say?
you've done nothing but repeat " echo chamber", and "safe space" as your
argument
then talk like a snob the rest of it:
" I'm right. But you don't like that because then you'd have to admit you're wrong. But that's ok, it's perfectly normal to feel like this"
have you ever met somebody who talked like that? what a cunt.
that nobody wants to hear what you have to say?
you've done nothing but repeat " echo chamber", and "safe space" as your
argument
then talk like a snob the rest of it:
" I'm right. But you don't like that because then you'd have to admit you're wrong. But that's ok, it's perfectly normal to feel like this"
have you ever met somebody who talked like that? what a cunt.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] That transgender people exist, which they do.
I used those phrases to show distaste towards your response, which boils down to "don't say things I don't like".
How am I talking like a snob, I'm just ******* speaking to you.
I used those phrases to show distaste towards your response, which boils down to "don't say things I don't like".
How am I talking like a snob, I'm just ******* speaking to you.
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zourch (01/02/2016) [-] its perfectly understandable to ignore stupid **** that's why everything exists today.
nothing you have said is intelligible or worth notes. stop acting like avoiding you is the same as avoiding an open mind. You're not worth anyones time.
for example look how much time I've wasted listening to your stupid ass
when I could have been going to taco bell.
nothing you have said is intelligible or worth notes. stop acting like avoiding you is the same as avoiding an open mind. You're not worth anyones time.
for example look how much time I've wasted listening to your stupid ass
when I could have been going to taco bell.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Except I'm not stupid, I'm right. But you don't like that because then you'd have to admit you're wrong. But that's ok, it's perfectly normal to feel like this.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Ok, go back to your echo chamber, be sure to block me so I can't tell you anything else you don't want to hear.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. In short, gg.
Yes, you want to silence the opposing opinion and create an area where only opinions you agree with are spoken. You want to be protected from anything that could cause you to question how you understand the world. You want a safe space. <--- Tumblr is that way.
Yes, you want to silence the opposing opinion and create an area where only opinions you agree with are spoken. You want to be protected from anything that could cause you to question how you understand the world. You want a safe space. <--- Tumblr is that way.
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zourch (01/02/2016) [-] this is the **** that makes everyone hate you there is no trans.
you're either a male female, or a deformity with both or two or **** knows...
And no I didn't ask you to leave a safe place of any sort. why are you trying to
trip me with all this "leaving of the safe space" it doesn't make any sense.
You're not offending me, I just don't like you here. you don't fit.
People have been telling faggots to leave funnyjunk since the **** it began.
I'm asking you to **** off.
you're either a male female, or a deformity with both or two or **** knows...
And no I didn't ask you to leave a safe place of any sort. why are you trying to
trip me with all this "leaving of the safe space" it doesn't make any sense.
You're not offending me, I just don't like you here. you don't fit.
People have been telling faggots to leave funnyjunk since the **** it began.
I'm asking you to **** off.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] You are wrong.
You don't like me here because you don't like what I have to say, so therefore you want a place where people say the right things. Things you agree with. An echo chamber. Congratulations on your scholarship to tumblr.
Well I'm asking you to validate your statements.
You don't like me here because you don't like what I have to say, so therefore you want a place where people say the right things. Things you agree with. An echo chamber. Congratulations on your scholarship to tumblr.
Well I'm asking you to validate your statements.
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anon (01/02/2016) [-]
People know you exist, they just think you're a weirdo guy running around screaming about how they JUST ARRREEE a girl without any scientific proof and falling back on acting superior whenever someone points out your obvious lies rather than try to debate them because you know you don't have any points to stand on.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Well how exactly could I prove the claim?
What reason do I have to lie either, there's no conceivable gain from it.
What reason do I have to lie either, there's no conceivable gain from it.
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anon (01/02/2016) [-]
You can't, that's the point.
Just because you "think something so" doesn't mean that reality then conforms to that.
As for a reason why, who knows right? It's not like there's an insane amount of people who would do borderline anything to be "different" for the attention, right?
Just because you "think something so" doesn't mean that reality then conforms to that.
As for a reason why, who knows right? It's not like there's an insane amount of people who would do borderline anything to be "different" for the attention, right?
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Well then complaining about a lack of evidence is pretty silly, isn't it?
I never claimed that it did, in fact I predicate my understanding of reality on it.
That's true, but I will assure you that that is not the case, I have no desire to feel the way that I do.
I never claimed that it did, in fact I predicate my understanding of reality on it.
That's true, but I will assure you that that is not the case, I have no desire to feel the way that I do.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] No... it's logical to base the world around the majority. Hence the world is built right-handed.
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anon (01/02/2016) [-]
"Nope!" -plat 2016
boy
noun
1.
a male child, from birth to full growth, especially one less than 18 years of age.
2.
a young man who lacks maturity, judgment, etc.
3.
Informal. a grown man, especially when referred to familiarly:
He liked to play poker with the boys.
4.
a son:
Sam's oldest boy is helping him in the business.
5.
a male who is from or native to a given place.
6.
boys, (used with a singular or plural verb)
a range of sizes from 8 to 20 in garments made for boys.
a garment in this size range.
the department or section of a store where these garments are sold.
7.
boys, military personnel, especially combat soldiers:
Support the boys overseas.
uh oh, looks like boy is male, it's almost like you're really stretching to make gender seem like it's a separate thing when it isn't.
boy
noun
1.
a male child, from birth to full growth, especially one less than 18 years of age.
2.
a young man who lacks maturity, judgment, etc.
3.
Informal. a grown man, especially when referred to familiarly:
He liked to play poker with the boys.
4.
a son:
Sam's oldest boy is helping him in the business.
5.
a male who is from or native to a given place.
6.
boys, (used with a singular or plural verb)
a range of sizes from 8 to 20 in garments made for boys.
a garment in this size range.
the department or section of a store where these garments are sold.
7.
boys, military personnel, especially combat soldiers:
Support the boys overseas.
uh oh, looks like boy is male, it's almost like you're really stretching to make gender seem like it's a separate thing when it isn't.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] When 0.3% of people are trans I think it's safe to ignore them from the definitions of common words, eh?
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anon (01/02/2016) [-]
Yes, people grow up, they look around and see that boys have dicks and girls have vaginas. They then use that information to go either "I must also be a boy" or "I must also be a girl"
And then sally special snowflake comes up, "I want to act like a boy"
"that's fine" they respond.
"I am a boy"
and this is where the lies begin. Rather than making falsehoods acceptable, why not simply make it acceptable for the girl to act how she wants.
And then sally special snowflake comes up, "I want to act like a boy"
"that's fine" they respond.
"I am a boy"
and this is where the lies begin. Rather than making falsehoods acceptable, why not simply make it acceptable for the girl to act how she wants.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Nope! People can tell you their gender from around aged 5, this much seems to have to do with looking at adult behaviour, and has nothing but a strong correlation with genitalia.
Well no, if they said "I am male" they would be wrong. But the word boy refers to the gender, not the sex.
Well no, if they said "I am male" they would be wrong. But the word boy refers to the gender, not the sex.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] It makes logical sense, people inherently know what gender they are. When someone says they aren't the gender that matches their sex, they have no reason to lie about that, there's no gain by doing so. All that occurs is they are allowed to live their life differently in a way which makes them more comfortable. Much like telling a gay person to just be straight, pretending that we don't exist isn't going to make us go away.
No one is trying to change reality... at least I'm not anyway. Not like the ******* "transethnic" tumblrites.
No one is trying to change reality... at least I'm not anyway. Not like the ******* "transethnic" tumblrites.
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anon (01/02/2016) [-]
No, complaining about a lack of evidence to a point that has absolutely no evidence is just pointing out THAT IT HAS NO EVIDENCE. I'm not complaining about the lack of it, i'm pointing it out.
So when someone says "I identify as a woman" but they have a penis, what is happening here? are we supposed to agree knowing full well they are not and have absolutely nothing proving that they are?
So when someone says "I identify as a woman" but they have a penis, what is happening here? are we supposed to agree knowing full well they are not and have absolutely nothing proving that they are?
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Well there is evidence, the many people coming forward with this concept in isolation.
Well yes, because identity is by nature immeasurable, but it's also pointless. What difference does it make whether someone's a man or woman, really? For most people it is simply the way they are addressed and responded to by society. Changing this value from a 1 to a 0 or vice versa doesn't harm anyone, or really affect them, right?
Well yes, because identity is by nature immeasurable, but it's also pointless. What difference does it make whether someone's a man or woman, really? For most people it is simply the way they are addressed and responded to by society. Changing this value from a 1 to a 0 or vice versa doesn't harm anyone, or really affect them, right?
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] Well I used the name Caitlyn, so it makes sense to use the pronoun she...
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anon (01/02/2016) [-]
intersex isn't seen as a proper gender, or sex for that matter, in itself, simply because most of those individuals either have XX or XY chromosomes which gives them their sex, or they are infertile, they still have the XX or XY chromosomes, but their DNA doesn't allow for reproduction.
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evilanakie (01/01/2016) [-] intersex is when your bits are like "hey doc check this **** out" and dont look like a penis or a vagina
and you identify as male female or androgynous regardless of what your genitalia is at the moment
and the pronouns are he she and they
he for men she for women and they for androgynous people
i know its not "grammatically correct" but grammar changes
and its better than zir xir
and you identify as male female or androgynous regardless of what your genitalia is at the moment
and the pronouns are he she and they
he for men she for women and they for androgynous people
i know its not "grammatically correct" but grammar changes
and its better than zir xir
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hongkonglongdong ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-]
I just meant that it wasn't BS. Intersex people are really interesting; there was one girl (ish) who was intersex, and ended up being a spy because they could easily pretend to be male or female.
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platinumaltaria (01/01/2016) [-] How do you not know intersex people exist? Like google please.
It and they both work...
It and they both work...
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thedutchs (01/02/2016) [-] It is absolutely retarded to refer to something that is singular as plural.
Go back to your old middleschool, sit down with your English teacher and let him explain to you why since ancient times every language in the world has developed singular and plural pronouns.
Go back to your old middleschool, sit down with your English teacher and let him explain to you why since ancient times every language in the world has developed singular and plural pronouns.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] They is both singular and plural. Please learn english.
For instance, observe:
"My friend went out shopping today; they bought eggs, flour and milk."
For instance, observe:
"My friend went out shopping today; they bought eggs, flour and milk."
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] How about read what I said, which frankly decimates your statement that they is plural. That being said I can understand where you're coming from, they is typically used to refer to groups in the third person. But actually it refers to any people who's gender is not known.
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thedutchs (01/02/2016) [-] "Which completely decimates what you said"
Funny, since you have not provided any sources like I actually have.
They is third person, plural. Why do we have singular and plural? Because it's pretty damn handy to know whether you're talking about one or multiple people.
"It" is a neuter, singular pronoun.
Funny, since you have not provided any sources like I actually have.
They is third person, plural. Why do we have singular and plural? Because it's pretty damn handy to know whether you're talking about one or multiple people.
"It" is a neuter, singular pronoun.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] I don't need to provide sources, I'm a native English speaker...
It is implied with they, because they is used in the singular after another singular noun that determines the subject.
Yes it is, but it's not the only one.
It is implied with they, because they is used in the singular after another singular noun that determines the subject.
Yes it is, but it's not the only one.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] What sources would you like me to provide?
www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/they
dictionary.reference.com/browse/they
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/they
There's the top 3 results from a google search, all of which corroborate my point.
www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/they
dictionary.reference.com/browse/they
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/they
There's the top 3 results from a google search, all of which corroborate my point.
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platinumaltaria (01/02/2016) [-] You know I'm actually impressed that you can't read and yet think you can tell me how english works.
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dreygur (01/02/2016) [-] As I said, it's pretty widely used and it's just because of convenience, but it's still not quite accepted as correct. Still, if people keep using it in the context of indeterminate gender, it may just change meaning into becoming the new he/she, because that's what words do.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they
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evilanakie (01/01/2016) [-] refusing is a little harsh dont you think
and it is a little aggressive, but some people might like it
i dont know
it doesnt make that much grammatical sense either
its a matter of personal preference i suppose
and it is a little aggressive, but some people might like it
i dont know
it doesnt make that much grammatical sense either
its a matter of personal preference i suppose
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thedutchs (01/01/2016) [-] How would you normally talk about something that doesn't have a clear gender? For example: an Alien.
You would say something like "It landed in my backyard" or "It is eating right now".
You wouldn't say "They landed in my backyard" or "They is eating right now".
I don't care enough about this gender stuff to oppose it, but referring to something that is singular as plural is going to be a confusing mess.
You would say something like "It landed in my backyard" or "It is eating right now".
You wouldn't say "They landed in my backyard" or "They is eating right now".
I don't care enough about this gender stuff to oppose it, but referring to something that is singular as plural is going to be a confusing mess.
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evilanakie (01/01/2016) [-] "oh sam? yeah they are gonna go to a movie"
"oh sams wallet, well i think its theirs"
not that hard
"oh sams wallet, well i think its theirs"
not that hard
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evilanakie (01/01/2016) [-] sam is still a human and not a simple object
and how would you like to be called it
and how would you like to be called it
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thedutchs (01/01/2016) [-] That's not an issue for me since I am already called "he" and my ego isn't big enough to delude myself into thinking I am multiple people. It is a neuter pronoun which would actually make it perfect for people who somehow think that being called "he" or "she" is a problem.
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evilanakie (01/01/2016) [-] they isnt a multiple person pronoun its a gender natural pronoun
because english doesnt have a natural gender neutral pronoun for singular we make one
and at least it isnt zir
because english doesnt have a natural gender neutral pronoun for singular we make one
and at least it isnt zir
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thedutchs (01/01/2016) [-] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_%28pronoun%29
I hate to use the word "literally" but here goes.
They is literally a third person, plural pronoun.
I hate to use the word "literally" but here goes.
They is literally a third person, plural pronoun.
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evilanakie (01/01/2016) [-] personally i dont see the point of identifying as androgynous but people do, and they prefer they most of the time
i use he pronouns a friend of mine uses they pronouns
i respect them enough to use they pronouns and it doesnt really cause any problems
i use they as a singular pronoun because i respect the person whos using it not the actual pronoun itself
its easier to modify the meaning of a existing word than it is to make a new one
i use he pronouns a friend of mine uses they pronouns
i respect them enough to use they pronouns and it doesnt really cause any problems
i use they as a singular pronoun because i respect the person whos using it not the actual pronoun itself
its easier to modify the meaning of a existing word than it is to make a new one
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anon (01/01/2016) [-]
Changing the meaning of words is bad. Very bad. It set's in motion very bad things. Why not just look into another language and see if you can find gender neutral pronouns in it? Maybe find like a greek or something word that is gender neutral. Or maybe accept, "it" or like, "human." Human's wallet is over there. Human is watching the movies. Or if you don't like those, just ask people to call you by your name at all times.
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anon (01/01/2016) [-]
I am guessing you write retarded things because you lack knowledge, so I will do my best to teach you, look, what you said is retarded because people aren't male or female based on their phenotype (genitals) but rather on their genotype (chromosomes) so if you have XY you male, if you have XX you are female, and in the rare case in which you got a syndrom such as Turner's (XO) or any other which causes a weird sexual chromosomes combination (XX(XX)Y, XXX and XYY basically), it is mainly accepted to consider the ones with at least one Y chromosome as males because well, that's how you tell a male apart from a female.
So all this controversy is stupid, you can't change nature's laws just because you don't like them, you are either born as male or female, and that's what you are.
So all this controversy is stupid, you can't change nature's laws just because you don't like them, you are either born as male or female, and that's what you are.
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sedativechunk (01/02/2016) [-] ... well you never really had to "care". But you are allowed to have your own preferences, just saying.
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fragman (01/01/2016) [-]
This is where the whole trans acceptance ******** has lead us so far. Encouraging people with mental disorders to embrace them had to eventually lead to **** like people claiming to be "non-binary" or adult men to leave their wife and seven kids in order to be "adopted" as a 6 year old girl.
**** this society.
**** this society.
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hkkkkkk (01/02/2016) [-]
It's not a mental disorder. You and the whole circle-jerk here are just ignorantly stupid.
Sex and gender aren't the same thing. Sex is binary, and refers to the genitalia. Gender is simply, say, how feminine you are. It's a continuum.
Ever shave your beard? Congrats, you're not on the extreme masculine side of the gender spectrum. Nobody is. Really, it's not rocket science.
Sex and gender aren't the same thing. Sex is binary, and refers to the genitalia. Gender is simply, say, how feminine you are. It's a continuum.
Ever shave your beard? Congrats, you're not on the extreme masculine side of the gender spectrum. Nobody is. Really, it's not rocket science.
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fragman (01/02/2016) [-]
Let's see what we refer to as "it" here... I am talking about transsexualism, transvestism and other gender identity disorders. I am not talking about a guy liking romcoms or shaving, where the **** did you get that idea?
Now that "it" is cleared up:
It's not a mental disorder according to you and some other PC ******** spewers.
It is however a mental disorder according to the WHO since transsexualism is classified in ICD-10 under F64. The SJW crowd >would< probably force the WHO to remove that except as long as it's on that list there's a chance to get public healthcare to cover nonsense like sex change operations.
Being trans doesn't devalue a person, but encouraging someone to endulge on that nonsense devalues the encouraging party. You wouldn't encourage an anorexic to go lose some weight because it's a ******* despicable thing to push people in the direction of their mental disorder.
Just because we've started redefining terms to better fit the narrative doesn't mean I have to accept that crap in any way, much less as long as the official definitions haven't been changed.
Now that "it" is cleared up:
It's not a mental disorder according to you and some other PC ******** spewers.
It is however a mental disorder according to the WHO since transsexualism is classified in ICD-10 under F64. The SJW crowd >would< probably force the WHO to remove that except as long as it's on that list there's a chance to get public healthcare to cover nonsense like sex change operations.
Being trans doesn't devalue a person, but encouraging someone to endulge on that nonsense devalues the encouraging party. You wouldn't encourage an anorexic to go lose some weight because it's a ******* despicable thing to push people in the direction of their mental disorder.
Just because we've started redefining terms to better fit the narrative doesn't mean I have to accept that crap in any way, much less as long as the official definitions haven't been changed.
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fedexman (01/02/2016) [-] Did feminine men forge the mighty United States? Did faggots push western expansion and manifest destiny? Did some pussy minded dick taking mentally diseased tranny form the mightiest navy in the world and display the full dominance of the US military to show we speak softly and carry a big stick? Hell no the mighty empire of Rome started it's decline because of the vulgarities and sexual misdirection that started in the capital causing its citizens to steadily care less about hard work and more about the pleasures of life hiring their military away to the foreigners, the barbarians and their original enemies. Poor leadership from emperors who indulged their unnatural lusts and couldn't are less about the mighty empire they were to govern. They forgot their origins, that they were created by the humble, hardworking man if we lose that... we will have lost everything and be sure to follow in Rome's footsteps.
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majestispaceduck (01/02/2016) [-] Technically, from the time i was 10, I've never been clean shaven, where does that put me?
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alucardhell ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] That is a combination of sex and gender. The brain development and sexual development happen at different times in vitro, if the chemical balance for the appropriate gender is off from what the sex is. A similar effect happens to cause gay/lesbian vs the standard straight. There is more to it than that, it is a very complicated bio-chemical system that requires 60 page PhD papers to explain fully.
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anon (01/02/2016) [-]
Congratulations, you've made an argument against yourself.
If shaving your beard makes you a less masculine male, why are trannies not just "feminine males"
Oh wait, that's what they are. So when we say "he", we're actually right. Interesting.
Keep pretending you know better and everyone who disagrees with you is just some backwater hick.
You do so enjoy wishing you were superior and knew everything don't you?
Why don't you just identify as superior so that no one could tell you otherwise?
If shaving your beard makes you a less masculine male, why are trannies not just "feminine males"
Oh wait, that's what they are. So when we say "he", we're actually right. Interesting.
Keep pretending you know better and everyone who disagrees with you is just some backwater hick.
You do so enjoy wishing you were superior and knew everything don't you?
Why don't you just identify as superior so that no one could tell you otherwise?
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anon (01/02/2016) [-]
Why do ******** keep bringing that up as if it's some sort of argument?
There are demented, twisted individuals from every section of society, and at the very least, what that guy's doing doesn't affect anybody else.
Bet I wouldn't need to search very hard to find people like you, whatever your race, sexual orientation, nationality, etc, who are rapists, serial killers, torturers, Nazis, pedophiles.
There are demented, twisted individuals from every section of society, and at the very least, what that guy's doing doesn't affect anybody else.
Bet I wouldn't need to search very hard to find people like you, whatever your race, sexual orientation, nationality, etc, who are rapists, serial killers, torturers, Nazis, pedophiles.
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captainkilljoy ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] You've had the fight beaten out of you then. That's the only way these people win. By you not being willing to stand up against it anymore.
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dangerdaypancakes (01/02/2016) [-] it doesnt really matter what they want to call them selves or what they want to do. it doesnt really affect anybody.
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captainkilljoy ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] That sounds very reminiscent of "ignore the problem and it will go away". The problem hasn't gone away. It does effect people because it becomes more widespread and appeals more to these people who have delusions who otherwise might have mentally stabilized before it was too late.
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dangerdaypancakes (01/02/2016) [-] yeah but is it really a problem? that sort of stuff doesnt really seem like mental instability
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captainkilljoy ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] Yes, it is very much a problem.
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stefonknee-wolschtt-transgender-father-leaves-family-in-toronto-to-start-new-life-as-a-six-year-old-a6769051.html
This is what it does currently. It will only get worse if you keep pretending it isn't a problem.
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stefonknee-wolschtt-transgender-father-leaves-family-in-toronto-to-start-new-life-as-a-six-year-old-a6769051.html
This is what it does currently. It will only get worse if you keep pretending it isn't a problem.
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tylermcall (01/02/2016) [-] That is that guy's, and his family's, problem, not ours. Obviously that man has more problems than gender identity crisis, and he probably would've left his family regardless. It must be nice having so few problems that you have to go find some on the internet.
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captainkilljoy ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] Should we ignore every problem that is not directly ours? The problems like that guy has do not just effect the individual, they have much further reaching repercussions. Do you truly think that others will not look to that, and while most should say "That is insanity", others will say "That is empowering" and think to do the same themselves if the opportunity ever arises?
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tylermcall (01/02/2016) [-] There will always be a few nutjobs, and it's a waste of time to make a bigger issue than it is especially when the repercussion is so insignificant. People leave their families everyday for all sorts of reasons, so just because someone does it over a gender misidentification shouldn't be too outlandish when more people are getting divorced for all sorts of reasons. The most damage that situation will cause is the equivalent of how much damage a regular divorce does, which isn't a whole lot. Listen internet warrior, stop making big issues out of the small stuff, and don't act like people are giving up because they don't want to argue over nothing. People pick their battles, and ones like this just aren't worth it.
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captainkilljoy ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] The same damage as a regular divorce? Because in a regular divorce, 7 children no longer talk to their father because he's off pretending to be a 6 year old child that's been adopted by two dumb cunts. Okay.
Ever heard the saying "the straw that broke the camel's back"? These things add up and if you simply pick and choose things you dislike rather than standing by a set of principles, they will keep adding up until you are beyond ****** . Every one of these 'small things' that you let go are another victory that pushes these people even further.
Ever heard the saying "the straw that broke the camel's back"? These things add up and if you simply pick and choose things you dislike rather than standing by a set of principles, they will keep adding up until you are beyond ****** . Every one of these 'small things' that you let go are another victory that pushes these people even further.
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itsalwaysunny (01/02/2016) [-] That guy clearly has a much more bigger issue than Gender Dysphoria. Wanting to be a six year old girl even though he is a forty year old man, and even leaving his entire family because of it goes above and beyond simple transgenderism.
I guarantee you if transgenders never existed, that guy would still do what he's doing. There are always going to be ****** up people in society, and if they can give themselves an excuse to be ****** up they will use that excuse. He's just hitching a ride on the whole transgender thing as a means to rationalize his psychosis and make himself feel like what he's doing is perfectly fine.
It's completely unfair to use some ****** up guy who's only using the word 'transgender' to make himself feel righteous in his actions, to represent a group of people who are actually suffering from Gender Dysphoria.
I guarantee you if transgenders never existed, that guy would still do what he's doing. There are always going to be ****** up people in society, and if they can give themselves an excuse to be ****** up they will use that excuse. He's just hitching a ride on the whole transgender thing as a means to rationalize his psychosis and make himself feel like what he's doing is perfectly fine.
It's completely unfair to use some ****** up guy who's only using the word 'transgender' to make himself feel righteous in his actions, to represent a group of people who are actually suffering from Gender Dysphoria.
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captainkilljoy ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] That is not what the argument here is. This chain started as a response to someone saying "Whatever a person says they are, fine. I just don't ******* care anymore.". That line of thinking leads to this. It leads to people who think that article I just linked is acceptable. Eventually things like that will become commonplace and just considered an acceptable eccentricity if you give up caring about it, just like transgenderism has and being gay has. I'll repeat it again, the only way these people win is if there is nobody left to stand up against them anymore. We are past the point of expecting others to do it for you because of a lack of caring.
And a not on the gay and transgenderism examples I used. I am not saying that those two things are bad. I am saying at one point in history they were considered traits that made you an abomination, whereas now they are considered things you must accept or you are an -ism of one kind or another. History will repeat itself here.
And a not on the gay and transgenderism examples I used. I am not saying that those two things are bad. I am saying at one point in history they were considered traits that made you an abomination, whereas now they are considered things you must accept or you are an -ism of one kind or another. History will repeat itself here.
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itsalwaysunny (01/02/2016) [-] Yep I see what you're saying now. My bad. I totally agree aswell.
But it's pretty hard to stop this from happening. Like i said before, ****** up people are going to use whatever they can as an excuse to make themselves feel normal. We can't do anything about it without hurting/punishing another group of people who didn't do anything wrong. Even if we do, the ****** up people are probably still going to do what they want to do.
It's unavoidable, and we'd be fighting a losing battle. I agree with the first chain post. There's literally nothing anyone can do at this point but ignore it or accept it.
But it's pretty hard to stop this from happening. Like i said before, ****** up people are going to use whatever they can as an excuse to make themselves feel normal. We can't do anything about it without hurting/punishing another group of people who didn't do anything wrong. Even if we do, the ****** up people are probably still going to do what they want to do.
It's unavoidable, and we'd be fighting a losing battle. I agree with the first chain post. There's literally nothing anyone can do at this point but ignore it or accept it.
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vegasstoner (01/02/2016) [-]
i dont care that the guy thinks he's a six year old. it's leaving his family thats the problem.
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captainkilljoy ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] **** , made a typo. Meant to say "note", not "not".
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masdercheef (01/02/2016) [-] "Had the fight beaten out of you" "the only way these people win"
What the **** are you fighting? Nobody's saying you have to change. They just want to be able to call themselves what they want.
What the **** are you fighting? Nobody's saying you have to change. They just want to be able to call themselves what they want.
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lapsushominum (01/02/2016) [-] People wanna believe they're fighting some big battle to make them feel important.
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captainkilljoy ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] I don't care about feeling important. My entire view on life means that I am among the least important people in the world, and if I were to die along with billions of others similar to me it would make no difference to the world. That being said, I will try and argue for what I believe is right and just while I am still here.
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captainkilljoy ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] The easiest way I can say it without coming off as massively arrogant is to say I'm fighting irrationality, wherever it presents itself.
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klina (01/01/2016) [-] man
woman
male
female
transgendered
that's it, everything else is either a cry for attention, a severe mental disorder or a misinterpretation of a fetish
note that being transgendered is also a disorder, but since it's ultimately harmless there's no reason for people to discriminate against it
woman
male
female
transgendered
that's it, everything else is either a cry for attention, a severe mental disorder or a misinterpretation of a fetish
note that being transgendered is also a disorder, but since it's ultimately harmless there's no reason for people to discriminate against it
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chaosraptor (01/01/2016) [-] it just gets split 4 ways
born male
born female
trans male
trans female
nature makes mistakes, but someone born with the brain chemistry of the opposite gender is harmless,.... a little surgery and presto they can move on
eventually genetic science will be able to do a better job to make them authentic the right gender
kinda ****** up how people feel a need to discriminate against something harmless like trans but on the same angle hug and protect retards who can be harmful to others and not realize what theyre doing wrong
born male
born female
trans male
trans female
nature makes mistakes, but someone born with the brain chemistry of the opposite gender is harmless,.... a little surgery and presto they can move on
eventually genetic science will be able to do a better job to make them authentic the right gender
kinda ****** up how people feel a need to discriminate against something harmless like trans but on the same angle hug and protect retards who can be harmful to others and not realize what theyre doing wrong
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klina (01/01/2016) [-] i just put it in one for simplicity's sake
doesn't amtter if you're born a man or a woman, if you're trans you don't identify with your gender so I just skipped that
but yeah, tis a shame people discriminate on this basis, it's pretty much the same as when people are born with other diseases except this one is not usually protected by laws
like mostly nobody will **** on a dude with palsy but if someone's wearing drag chances are someone gonna harrass them
******* humans man I hate you all
doesn't amtter if you're born a man or a woman, if you're trans you don't identify with your gender so I just skipped that
but yeah, tis a shame people discriminate on this basis, it's pretty much the same as when people are born with other diseases except this one is not usually protected by laws
like mostly nobody will **** on a dude with palsy but if someone's wearing drag chances are someone gonna harrass them
******* humans man I hate you all
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chaosraptor (01/02/2016) [-] yeah real funny how on another angle... parents will try to shelter their kids from trans as if theyre gonna be a huge negative influence, yet tell their kids its okay if timmy the tard is 25 and still eats crayons
seen parents over here... when a national porn industry has one of their parades with biker girls and strippers riding around on bikes or floats poping their tits out... people are kinda okay with kids seeing that... but when the LGBT community tries having their parades... parents cover their kids eyes or try to stay away from the area
one funny moment i had was one time on a bus, a bunch of samoans got on and started picking on some gay guy....
he was just wearing normal clothes like t-shirt and jeans but has a few earrings and eyeliner...
the monkeys started giving him **** for a while. til he turned around and told them "you do know most of the gays and transvestites up in the red light district are samoan right?
aside from a bit of swearing... the gay guys one sentence shut the apes up real ******* quick
seen parents over here... when a national porn industry has one of their parades with biker girls and strippers riding around on bikes or floats poping their tits out... people are kinda okay with kids seeing that... but when the LGBT community tries having their parades... parents cover their kids eyes or try to stay away from the area
one funny moment i had was one time on a bus, a bunch of samoans got on and started picking on some gay guy....
he was just wearing normal clothes like t-shirt and jeans but has a few earrings and eyeliner...
the monkeys started giving him **** for a while. til he turned around and told them "you do know most of the gays and transvestites up in the red light district are samoan right?
aside from a bit of swearing... the gay guys one sentence shut the apes up real ******* quick
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forsakensaint (01/02/2016) [-] Somehow i dont think nature made those mistakes, possibly the offspring or some weird mutation did, but surely not nature...
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chaosraptor (01/02/2016) [-] **chaosraptor used "*roll 1, cah answer*"**
**chaosraptor rolls Dining with cardboard cutouts of the cast of "Friends."**
how did nature mess up forsakensaint
**chaosraptor rolls Dining with cardboard cutouts of the cast of "Friends."**
how did nature mess up forsakensaint
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chaosraptor (01/02/2016) [-] **chaosraptor used "*roll 1, 1-3*"**
**chaosraptor rolls 2**
forsaken prefers:
1: courtney cox
2: jennifer aniston
3: lisa kudrow
**chaosraptor rolls 2**
forsaken prefers:
1: courtney cox
2: jennifer aniston
3: lisa kudrow
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forsakensaint (01/02/2016) [-] I don't watch much Tv, non actually... And i have zero clue about actors in movies, i dont care who it is, or who plays the music in band. Really i just googled jennifer aniston from the pic search and guessed from there...
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forsakensaint (01/02/2016) [-] Like said, i dont watch TV, never really did... All series i've seen i checked from web. Last time i saw anything from TV was 10y ago? And that was just movies mostly, never followed any series from tv
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pemamaniac (01/01/2016) [-] There are more than two sexes*.
Genders are; Masculine and feminine. (etc)
Sex; Male and female.
Genders are; Masculine and feminine. (etc)
Sex; Male and female.
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alphadolan (01/02/2016) [-] I'm a simple man I see a dick it's a male....
When you have a penis and identify yourself as a female I feel like 2+2=fish
When you have a penis and identify yourself as a female I feel like 2+2=fish
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hongkonglongdong ONLINE (01/01/2016) [-]
Gender refers to the things we associate with sex.
So, a dude with a penis who sews and stays at home and watches MLP and wears dresses would be male, but would be behaving according to the female gender.
This is what they mean by "gender is a social construct", in that there is no genetic reason why girls should wear skirts and boys should not (just ask Scots). The concept of gender is not the same thing as the concept of sex.
So, a dude with a penis who sews and stays at home and watches MLP and wears dresses would be male, but would be behaving according to the female gender.
This is what they mean by "gender is a social construct", in that there is no genetic reason why girls should wear skirts and boys should not (just ask Scots). The concept of gender is not the same thing as the concept of sex.
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anon (01/02/2016) [-]
Exactly
BECAUSE THE CONCEPT OF GENDER HAS NO BEARING ON WHAT YOU DO IN YOUR LIFE
SO WHY IS IT SUCH A BIG ******* DEAL FOR THESE GIGANTIC FAGGOTS
"I GARGLE COCK BUT DONT WANNA BE GAY"
"I SAID IM A GIRL ITS STRAIGHT NOW DONT CALL ME GAY **** DONT CALL ME GAY PLEASE"
JUST ******* GET OVER IT WITH THE SELF LABELING ********
BECAUSE THE CONCEPT OF GENDER HAS NO BEARING ON WHAT YOU DO IN YOUR LIFE
SO WHY IS IT SUCH A BIG ******* DEAL FOR THESE GIGANTIC FAGGOTS
"I GARGLE COCK BUT DONT WANNA BE GAY"
"I SAID IM A GIRL ITS STRAIGHT NOW DONT CALL ME GAY **** DONT CALL ME GAY PLEASE"
JUST ******* GET OVER IT WITH THE SELF LABELING ********
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seniorawesomesauce (01/01/2016) [-] I mean, they are different. Do you have a penis? Your sex is male. Vagina? Female. Identifying as man or woman is left to gender.
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wiredguy 
ONLINE (01/01/2016) [-] trans people aren't as complicated, self-righteous and stupid as tumblr reposts make them out to be
there are indeed two traditional social genders, as are there two traditional biological sexes
yet just as people can be born with ambiguous genitalia and sex
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex#Ambiguous_genitalia
so can they be born - or true, become through outside influence - socially ambiguous also. There are many genetic, neurological and endocrinal influences on gender, your gonads aren't straight wired to your brain.
If a person feels they need to make some transition to feel comfortable being themselves, that is completely fine, and good for them that it's now quite feasible.
what's not okay is when people who just want to be a special snowflake abuse this concept to make themselves seem unique, and shove it in everybody's face aggressively.
These people are an illusory minority whose status has been bigged up through the internet, because it's funny to laugh at them.
ONLINE (01/01/2016) [-] 
there are indeed two traditional social genders, as are there two traditional biological sexes
yet just as people can be born with ambiguous genitalia and sex
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex#Ambiguous_genitalia
so can they be born - or true, become through outside influence - socially ambiguous also. There are many genetic, neurological and endocrinal influences on gender, your gonads aren't straight wired to your brain.
If a person feels they need to make some transition to feel comfortable being themselves, that is completely fine, and good for them that it's now quite feasible.
what's not okay is when people who just want to be a special snowflake abuse this concept to make themselves seem unique, and shove it in everybody's face aggressively.
These people are an illusory minority whose status has been bigged up through the internet, because it's funny to laugh at them.
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Enternal (01/01/2016) [-] Whereas I agree with most what you are saying, the 'illusory minority' that you speak of is no minority.
The odds of being a legitimate transgender (non-special snowflake) are incredibly low, yet a far larger population of people than is feasible to actually be trans, are claiming to be true transgender people, when they are not. Granted I can only speak of what I am calling 'true transgenders' as those are the ones that could be scientifically proven to be trans, not from outside influence.
The odds of being a legitimate transgender (non-special snowflake) are incredibly low, yet a far larger population of people than is feasible to actually be trans, are claiming to be true transgender people, when they are not. Granted I can only speak of what I am calling 'true transgenders' as those are the ones that could be scientifically proven to be trans, not from outside influence.
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installation ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] But there are more than two genders. I'm a tri-gender pyrofox, from the forest planet.
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fukkentyranitar (01/02/2016) [-] Thats fine. I sometimes identify as a size 11(US) Timberland 6" suede waterproof boot for the left foot.
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kalimah ONLINE (01/02/2016) [-] Something that i keep thinking is that since they want to make genders,as well as race and sexual orientation, not only arbitrary but inconsistant or "permanent" what stops every power and opression argument to be ended with "I will now choose a more opressed label than yours and make you the opressor"?
That goes for the other power discussions "You were doing this thing i dont agree you are raping me cis male" "No im a *roll gender* + *roll race* + (constitution modifier) and am therefore more opressed than you which mean you were and are the one raping me"
I mean, someone will eventually cry inconsistancy if you try to pull that but at that point who can say?
That goes for the other power discussions "You were doing this thing i dont agree you are raping me cis male" "No im a *roll gender* + *roll race* + (constitution modifier) and am therefore more opressed than you which mean you were and are the one raping me"
I mean, someone will eventually cry inconsistancy if you try to pull that but at that point who can say?
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iwaswithyourmum (01/01/2016) [-] I mean there are hermaphrodites and intersex people and people who are not comfortable with their sex, leading to gender confusion... I know, I know, I sound like one of those tumblr people, but it can honestly happen and I would like to respect their choices and lifestyles... until they say some retarded **** like "I'm a ************ squirrel-kin, my pronouns are xir and xhe." **** those people.
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Enternal (01/01/2016) [-] There is no such thing as a true hermaphrodite in humans. True being that both sets of genitals function fully. But even then, that's not another gender that would just be some mix of the two there are.
Intersex and gender confusion....well I won't go into that whole debacle but we can agree that they remain within the two genders, they don't invent new ones.
Intersex and gender confusion....well I won't go into that whole debacle but we can agree that they remain within the two genders, they don't invent new ones.
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iwaswithyourmum (01/02/2016) [-] I guess you're right, but still, would you call someone who has a bit of both, albeit even if not fully functional, a man or woman, it'd probably be the one they're more comfortable with. Humans aren't exactly binary beings, no false or positive. If pressed to give a simple answer I would have to say there are 4 choices, male, female, both, neither. And the last two being very very very rare, the last one even more so than the other, I do have a friend who is gender neutral though and they act completely normal, so being like that isn't always attention seeking like the tumblrtards.
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Enternal (01/02/2016) [-] I suppose that is where we differ in opinion.
I don't view it as a choice, but then again only recently have I rather begrudgingly accepted the difference of the words 'gender' and 'sex'. Throughout my life I used them as the same thing. If im being honest I don't personally understand having a 'gender'. It is just your biological sex, at least for me. So conversations like these I can only discuss from a scientific perspective because I have no other.
That being said, I would think whichever set of genitals functioned would be your 'sex'. Of course those cases are the exception, not the norm. And honestly I have no idea what 'gender neutral' would be. Wouldn't that just be using the pronoun appropriate for your sex and nothing else? I don't see how that would ever even come up, the thought process I mean.
I don't view it as a choice, but then again only recently have I rather begrudgingly accepted the difference of the words 'gender' and 'sex'. Throughout my life I used them as the same thing. If im being honest I don't personally understand having a 'gender'. It is just your biological sex, at least for me. So conversations like these I can only discuss from a scientific perspective because I have no other.
That being said, I would think whichever set of genitals functioned would be your 'sex'. Of course those cases are the exception, not the norm. And honestly I have no idea what 'gender neutral' would be. Wouldn't that just be using the pronoun appropriate for your sex and nothing else? I don't see how that would ever even come up, the thought process I mean.
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iwaswithyourmum (01/02/2016) [-] My friend's sex is female and she doesn't mind being referred to by female pronouns because she realises that nobody can just glance at her and instantly realise she sees herself that way.
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iwaswithyourmum (01/02/2016) [-] I'm actually quite conflicted when it comes to this topic, some days, I too approach it scientifically and other days more from a social aspect. It's a very strange topic that so far doesn't have a concrete answer, I respect how you approach it though. I am comfortable with my gender, because it fits my sex, this is what being cis is. It's an actual term and commonly used in science, god I hate how it's being associated with those rejects over at Tumblr and other such people. Difference in opinion is important for progress.
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xichaosreaperix (01/02/2016) [-] **xichaosreaperix used "*roll picture*"**
**xichaosreaperix rolled image**
As a dodecagendered ponykin furry pyrofox who RPs as a pansexual Assault Helicopter who has PTSD, bipolar, DID, and schizophrenia and physically loves scalie cruise ships, I am offended and triggered.
(For real tho, WTF is up with this ******** ?)
**xichaosreaperix rolled image**
As a dodecagendered ponykin furry pyrofox who RPs as a pansexual Assault Helicopter who has PTSD, bipolar, DID, and schizophrenia and physically loves scalie cruise ships, I am offended and triggered.
(For real tho, WTF is up with this ******** ?)
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boomerpyro (01/01/2016) [-] then it's no longer 2, it's one
unless that herm = supergendered
unless that herm = supergendered
