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User avatar #8 - sgtmajjohnson (12/26/2015) [-]
TR-8R
User avatar #100 to #8 - nastoy (12/26/2015) [-]
Dem shoulder movements.
#97 to #8 - xzenoo (12/26/2015) [-]
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**xzenoo rolled image**mfw that guy displayed to most skill as a melee fighter in the whole movie
User avatar #26 to #13 - sudminator (12/26/2015) [-]
this needs some help and it will be gold
User avatar #46 to #26 - sgtmajjohnson (12/26/2015) [-]
Yeah, I copy-pasted it because I'm uncreative, but I noticed the spelling error.
#101 to #71 - thegreentornado (12/26/2015) [-]
Dat PHASSMA
#99 to #71 - commanderphoenix (12/26/2015) [-]
GIF
that eye says think about it and die
User avatar #74 to #9 - ShoMinimamoto (12/26/2015) [-]
what does the subtitle say?
#151 to #74 - ideletedmyotherone ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
Maybe if someone saved the actual ******* image and not the thumbnail for a change, it'll be easier to read.
User avatar #175 to #151 - sgtmajjohnson (12/26/2015) [-]
Yeah, I actually noticed that yesterday and saved the full one. My bad. I was saving these en masse.
#1 - tryg (12/25/2015) [-]
GIF
He'll be the next Boba Fett. Few words, little screen time, but awesome as hell.
#162 to #1 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
Died like a bitch too.
User avatar #36 to #1 - doctorcamden (12/26/2015) [-]
Boba Fett was a walking talking disappointment. His 5 minutes of screen time made him look like a bitch.
#58 to #36 - icecrust (12/26/2015) [-]
don't you talk **** about him
he is the god of anxty geeks
User avatar #134 to #36 - kexy (12/26/2015) [-]
He also abandoned his wife and child, didn't speak the language, and did not give two ***** about anyone but himself until he was dying and even then this is debatable. Hes a stain.
User avatar #4 to #1 - bulwark (12/25/2015) [-]
Except Boba actually had a distinct look. This is just another random trooper who just happens to be using a special weapon. Ain't nobody got **** on Boba "The Bounty Droppa" Fett.
User avatar #24 to #4 - hurpfry (12/26/2015) [-]
TR-8R stands up, his armor charred, systems failing
not sure how he survived the blast, he drags himself to a crashed x-wing
crawling inside, he is relieved to see the systems are just barely functional
flies back to the mothership... thing or whatever
They repair his armor but the chars still remain
he removes his helmet in the armory
he sees a familiar, uncleaned helmet.
one with dried blood on it
The traitor's helmet.
He dons the helmet as a reminder of what keeps him separate from the traitors.
Loyalty.
User avatar #32 to #24 - hitbyadriveby (12/26/2015) [-]
10/10
User avatar #105 to #24 - sushininja (12/26/2015) [-]
Unless there's a difference between the Empire storm trooper armor and First Order storm trooper armor, then he could very well be alive.

Storm trooper armor is meant to disperse the blast, but leave the user unconscious, rather than have armor that is heavy and blocks blasters. So it's very likely if they ever wanted to bring him back
#178 to #24 - atheistzilla (12/26/2015) [-]
you better send this **** straight to disney
User avatar #127 to #24 - comexx (12/26/2015) [-]
5/7
#77 to #24 - thorseph (12/26/2015) [-]
crashed tie fighter maybe, but they would shot an x-wing on sight i would assume
#64 to #24 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
Would watch and emulate in real life
#88 to #4 - bakagaijin ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
Didn't solo kill him?
User avatar #141 to #88 - bulwark (12/26/2015) [-]
Well, since nothing except the movies are cannon now, he "died" when he fell in the Sarlaac, yes.

But, in the extended universe, he crawls out of it and continues his bounty hunting work and becomes leader of the Mandalorians.
User avatar #65 to #1 - advice (12/26/2015) [-]
i can see that happening
#81 to #65 - mindor (12/26/2015) [-]
mfw im solo in IV
#7 to #1 - anon (12/25/2015) [-]
I'm actually hoping they go with Boba making it out of the pit idea. He would be very old, but seeing him show up would be awesome. I wanted to see him come back with a vendetta against Han and Luke But we all know that cant happen with Han now...
User avatar #22 to #7 - thefourthdirective ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
Spoiler is an actually spoiler for warning
User avatar #179 to #22 - talldumbdork (12/26/2015) [-]
......sigh... Been on funny junk too much, it was spoiled as quickly as fallout by trolls. Still waiting to see it with the wife when crowd dies down.
User avatar #144 to #7 - scorcho (12/26/2015) [-]
boba is only 3 years older than han solo, so he wouldn't be THAT old.
#83 to #7 - dickleberry (12/26/2015) [-]
theyre thinking of making a boba fett standalone movie with michael b jordan
#142 to #7 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
It would be one hell of a stretch, but the similarities between Phasma and Boba, strikes me. What if Phasma is Boba's daughter or some other relation. They both have distinct costumes and you never see their face. All she needs is a jet pack.
User avatar #25 to #7 - sudminator (12/26/2015) [-]
maybe later? keep hoping
User avatar #140 to #1 - caesarslegion (12/26/2015) [-]
I hope he's never given a name or anything, he just appears and kicks the **** out of Finn and then gets shot or something.

You always know it's him though because of battle damage on his armor.
User avatar #143 to #140 - squaretree (12/26/2015) [-]
Or he just screams "Traitor!" every time he sees FIn.
User avatar #18 to #1 - adu (12/26/2015) [-]
Also dies in a ****** and anticlimactic way.
User avatar #29 to #18 - slenderguy (12/26/2015) [-]
In the comics he lived. And had kids, and hunted down and almost killed Darth Vader but decided not to because the empire would hunt hunt him
User avatar #31 to #29 - adu (12/26/2015) [-]
All non-canon by now. Also, no matter who was writing it, Boba Fett beating Darth Vader is just fanfiction nonsense.
User avatar #61 to #31 - thebballin (12/26/2015) [-]
Vader is surprisingly bad ass. A fact that isn't conveyed well in the movies.
User avatar #147 to #31 - nickelakon ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
Unless it conflicts with Disney's rewrites it will remain canon I believe was said on the EU
User avatar #85 to #31 - chimpaflimp (12/26/2015) [-]
I think everyone agrees that the Disney storyline doesn't count towards the canon; they're just kinda doing their own thing.
#114 to #85 - justtocomment (12/26/2015) [-]
That's not how it works.
#150 to #114 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
"That's not how the force works"
User avatar #35 to #31 - slenderguy (12/26/2015) [-]
idk Darth Vader was a pussy bitch. He couldn't fight he was out of a paper bag without first crying a solid hour on how hard is life is being a awesome jedi
User avatar #38 to #35 - doctorcamden (12/26/2015) [-]
Boba fett was more of a bitch than vader in the canon. And if we are talking about the canon, Anikin slew many force wielders, Boba killed none.
User avatar #60 to #38 - bighornwizardsheep (12/26/2015) [-]
Fett has slain force users, you can debate canon sources and what not but Boba has hunted and killed jedi. Hell his dad killed a dozen jedi without a blaster. Jango Fett killing a force user is how the clone army was created in the first place, and if Jango can kill jedi why not his perfect replica son?

Not to say Boba is more powerful than Vader, because that's just *********
User avatar #62 to #60 - toboz (12/26/2015) [-]
neither Boba or Jango killed force users in the canon.

Boba dies in a way that should be in a comedy movie.
Jango dies so ridiculously easily to Dindu and acts like a total retard and rookie.


And neither of them received training to kill force users, not even in their fanfictions so its just makes their fanfictions even worse.
User avatar #67 to #62 - commontroll (12/26/2015) [-]
Wrong! Jango has killed force users. He shot one to **** right in front of Dooku. And he died to Mace Windu because his jet pack got ****** by bad luck. Plus there was his whole fight against Obi-Wan, obviously he handled himself very well in it.
User avatar #196 to #62 - bighornwizardsheep (12/27/2015) [-]
Boba dies in a half ass way ill give you that.

But Jango had been trampled by a space rhino, had his jetpack damaged, and was up against the single most powerful jedi master in the order. Look at what he did to Kenobi with his jetpack active, had it not been broken by space rhino thingy he likely could have at least avoided his fate.

And to say Jango never killed force users is just plain ******* wrong. The movies confirm at the least two are canon, the one that he shoots on the balcony, and Komari Vosa (which can be confirmed by Jango saying he was recruited on a moon of Voga by Tyrannus where that battle took place)

Mandalorians have battled and killed Jedi for centuries, they are the only non-force user that has been as adept at killing Jedi as Mandos was Grievous. Sure they dont have training to specifically kill Jedi, but obviously their fighting tactics allow them to do so. That's probably one of the reasons Palpatine used Mandalorian drill sergents to train the clone army.
User avatar #68 to #62 - commontroll (12/26/2015) [-]
And that was in the movies, mind you, still canon.
#30 to #29 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
uh dude hate to break it to you but darth vader is dead oh **** spoiler
User avatar #159 to #18 - BrownBearninetysix ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
Even if they did apply that whole thing where Boba defies death like fifty times, he'd be too old in the movies to re-appear as an adversary.
User avatar #45 to #2 - thempc (12/26/2015) [-]
saw this like 3 times before i notices the ammo on chewie's bandolier is candy canes
User avatar #19 to #2 - karvarausku (12/26/2015) [-]
that's just glorious.
User avatar #154 to #2 - mrsixinch ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
Merry Christmas TRAITOR
User avatar #20 to #1 - luqmanr (12/26/2015) [-]
he died though...
maybe he'll come back with a holed armor as phasma's second in command
#87 to #1 - thenikohero (12/26/2015) [-]
GIF
I love this guy, he's freaking awesome
#125 to #87 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
User avatar #181 to #87 - talldumbdork (12/26/2015) [-]
Waiting to see the movie in a few weeks with my wife. Now all I can wait for is this scene.
User avatar #195 to #181 - thenikohero (12/27/2015) [-]
I really like the movie, and when you see this guy, this ************* guy, you know **** is about to get down
#146 to #87 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
#174 to #87 - solsorten (12/26/2015) [-]
traitor
#40 - megazman (12/26/2015) [-]
Seriously though Daisy is hella cute way hotter than I ever thought Leah was
#185 to #40 - wafflebrewery (12/26/2015) [-]
Click to show spoiler
You can totally see her boobs in Silent Witness.
User avatar #111 to #40 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
You mean discount Natalie Portman

Cause she's totally a discount Natalie Portman
User avatar #56 to #40 - ghostisaho (12/26/2015) [-]
she doesn't do it for me
User avatar #41 to #40 - bendingtimeisgood ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
Part of the attraction is probably from her character being a ****** badass.
User avatar #42 to #41 - megazman (12/26/2015) [-]
very true, she was really well written and I think she had a great performance
User avatar #43 to #42 - bendingtimeisgood ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
Yeah. Having a good main character was one of my biggest concerns for this movie, and I think they really nailed it.
#50 to #43 - urapooper (12/26/2015) [-]
a bit too OP for my taste
User avatar #59 to #50 - bendingtimeisgood ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
I don't know if you can really say she's OP. The onlly unusual ability she showed for a jedi was how fast she learned.
#177 to #59 - deed (12/26/2015) [-]
also how good was she with the light saber. how she had never flown the millenium falcon and she was an expert at doing it. how she was so good with the pistol. She was too good with everything even though she didnt have any training. In the IV Luke was a little useless (he did nothing but hit in the target with his x-wing) until he found Yoda and trained with him to become a jedi. Rey was just too good with everything and it kinda took the thrill away
User avatar #187 to #177 - captainstinkypinky (12/26/2015) [-]
^^^^^ my thoughts exactly. I understand that they're trying to establish that she's strong with the force, but that doesn't mean they had to make her god-level at everything.
User avatar #182 to #59 - timoyr (12/26/2015) [-]
Well, based strickly on the movies, Ren was more powerful than Darth Vader (this is of course only because technology and fight choreographing is better nowdays, but still). Rey still beats Ren. The hero not just beats, but destroys the villain in the first film. Kylo Ren was taught by both Luke Skywalker and Snoke for probably over a decade, so she better habe a good reason why she was able to beat him. The blaster wound didn't seem to affect him after the fight with Finn and even with it he should've been more powerful imo.
Still, pretty much my only "big" problem with the film. It's still my favourite Star Wars film.
#53 to #43 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
Mace dindu could have been less dark imho.
User avatar #47 to #43 - harrykuntz (12/26/2015) [-]
Is this the new jedi chick in the new movie? I haven't seen it yet
User avatar #54 to #47 - upunkpunk (12/26/2015) [-]
ye
User avatar #55 to #54 - harrykuntz (12/26/2015) [-]
Thanks
#57 to #40 - colax (12/26/2015) [-]
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**colax rolled image**Agreed but YOU MOTHER ****** ITS SPELLED Leia YOU ********
#49 to #40 - mummyslittlebitch (12/26/2015) [-]
She's like the female Viggo Mortensen, not that she looks like him. But they're both people who are much more attractive the dirtier and sweatier they are.
#82 to #49 - brothergrimm ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
GIF
I want to disagree...... But that is actually really ****** accurate.....
#198 to #49 - hairydawg (01/04/2016) [-]
For real. I always thought the same about Evangeline Lilly in LOST too.
#75 - skylineblackcat (12/26/2015) [-]
Honestly I have no idea whats the big deal with this storm trooper and I have seen the movie. Can someone explain?
#76 to #75 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
Its a new maymay, almost as dank as the arrow to the knee stuff
User avatar #79 to #75 - schneidend (12/26/2015) [-]
Random dude comes out of nowhere, sees a lightsaber, and decides that, yeah, time to fight somebody using the deadliest melee weapon in the galaxy with a stun tonfa thingie. Then, he pretty much wins the fight with ease.
#186 to #79 - skylineblackcat (12/26/2015) [-]
This reply may be late but anyways if that storm trooper has a weapon that is unaffected by a light saber he most likely has advanced training with it. And remember that Finn was your standard storm trooper which means he would have very little melee weapon training. Conclusion storm trooper beating Finn was kinda expected.
User avatar #189 to #186 - schneidend (12/26/2015) [-]
Well, yeah, judging from his ballistic shield and stun baton, he was a special squaddie. But, for the millions of people out there who only watch the movies and don't read the comic books, novels, or play any of the games, they've never seen a guy with a melee weapon beat the **** out of a guy with a lightsaber, even though it happens all the time outside of the trilogies. So, their minds were blown, and a meme was born.
#39 - paulthehero (12/26/2015) [-]
Anyone remember Force Unleashed 2? Cuz I do.
User avatar #191 to #39 - jellybob ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
Yeah, I do....I wish I didn't...but I do.
#44 to #39 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
remember how it sucked ass and was stupid? because everyone does
User avatar #184 to #44 - mlpokeyuan (12/26/2015) [-]
how did it suck? i played it a long time ago and remember having a lot of fun with it. what was wrong?
#48 to #39 - lexoheight ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
It sucked so bad it was taken out of canon
User avatar #52 to #39 - zetsuboukamina (12/26/2015) [-]
You mean all 20 minutes of it?
User avatar #27 - jibbablabba (12/26/2015) [-]
>random ass storm trooper that bodies main character for about 5 minutes on screen
>now a giant ass meme
not what i expected to be a meme
was expecting Kylo's childish fits to be more of a meme
#51 to #27 - psychoknot (12/26/2015) [-]
Seriously who gives a **** ? He had a cool weapon, okay. He died and doesn't matter at all.
#156 to #51 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
you just said he had a cool weapon
and your still asking questions
User avatar #34 to #27 - kibbleking (12/26/2015) [-]
It was more like 1.5 minutes tbh
#92 to #27 - swonnr (12/26/2015) [-]
retarded kids with daddy issues throwing fits are more or less the whole plot of Star Wars. You get used to it.
User avatar #190 to #92 - captainstinkypinky (12/26/2015) [-]
people are giving you red pinkies, but you're right
User avatar #33 to #27 - Sethorein (12/26/2015) [-]
@emokyloren is a thing.

Headcanon: When kylo shouts TRAITOR he's actually shouting TR-8R. He loved that stormtrooper :'(
User avatar #72 to #33 - datassman (12/26/2015) [-]
do you mean kylor3n?
User avatar #73 to #72 - datassman (12/26/2015) [-]
d'aw **** I mean @ kylor3n
#84 to #27 - eskaywalker (12/26/2015) [-]
Click to show spoiler
Here you go fella.
User avatar #89 to #66 - afaik (12/26/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
User avatar #90 to #66 - catsbats (12/26/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
User avatar #94 to #66 - lolcandyman ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
#126 to #66 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
#136 to #66 - blackjew ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
#148 to #66 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
#152 to #66 - mrsixinch ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
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**mrsixinch rolled image** TRAITOR
User avatar #199 to #152 - hattaz (01/05/2016) [-]
Damn is that **** accurate
User avatar #164 to #66 - holycrapimacupcake (12/26/2015) [-]
TRAITOR!
#165 to #66 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
User avatar #170 to #66 - duelknight (12/26/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
User avatar #69 to #66 - hidanfangirl (12/26/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
User avatar #115 to #66 - nomadfourohthree (12/26/2015) [-]
HERETIC TRAITOR
User avatar #78 to #66 - omgwtfwhoami (12/26/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
#95 to #66 - lamentation (12/26/2015) [-]
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TRAITOR
User avatar #96 to #95 - lamentation (12/26/2015) [-]
:V
#80 - rolexus (12/26/2015) [-]
GIF
#158 - WheresMyAccount (12/26/2015) [-]
Rey's pretty cute tho
#28 - lordhaha (12/26/2015) [-]
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#149 - huntergriff ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
#124 - dildodude (12/26/2015) [-]
**dildodude rolled user antibronywiseman ** **** you you traitor piece of **** , en garde!
#129 - boxdweller (12/26/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
#3 - secretzx (12/25/2015) [-]
GIF
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#128 - lampmountaindew (12/26/2015) [-]
now, i just got done posting about how i saw about 1/4th of the movie before falling asleep drunk, but, the first thing i noticed about the movie is how they tried to get mad progressive about it. i dont mind a strong female lead, but it seems to me like they had to dumb down fins character and make him into some kind of pussy who only seems to want to get out of the order because hes afraid. again, didnt see the whole movie, but in the opening scenes the first thing i noticed was how they had to make a point to show you that the female lead is strong and the male lead is the big dumb scared comic relief. why couldnt she just be strong and he also be equally as strong? dont try and force **** down my throat i just came to see you guys do justice after the last 3.
User avatar #130 to #128 - ilovehitler (12/26/2015) [-]
Don't worry, the rest of the movie was **** as well.
#131 to #130 - lampmountaindew (12/26/2015) [-]
i dont want to believe it, but i could kinda see it ending up that way. i have these anti-fem tendencies that will turn me off to something as soon as i see that type of **** . i recognized it and my drunk self tried to stomach it, but it really did make me a little sick inside. im not trying to go full blown fedora here either its just something that happened in MY life recently has me on one of those " **** feminism" kicks for a week or two so it was kinda just bad timing to go spend 16 dollars on a 3D movie, just to see that.
User avatar #172 to #131 - lotrfan (12/26/2015) [-]
There was no feminism in the movie. Rey was no different than Luke or Anakin, aside from not having a dick. Literally there is only one line that is on the verge of being too on the nose Fin grabs Rey's hand and she yells that she knows how to run without him holding her hand but aside from that her gender is never mentioned or forced upon the viewer. If you were really interested in enjoying the movie you wouldn't have gone drunk. Don't blame you falling asleep on the main character's gender, that's just stupid, you were drunk your opinion of the movie is invalid Lord of the Rings is my favorite series and I fall asleep all the time when I watch it drunk
User avatar #145 to #128 - mrhappysunshine ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
well he kind if is a coward in a lot of it. but that's just his character rather than anything to do with feminists. plenty of cowardly dudes in the world, it makes him more interesting to watch develop than if he was just bad-ass all the way.
User avatar #155 to #128 - gabemczombie (12/26/2015) [-]
I was just waiting for this **** to pop up. I swear to god, as soon as there's a female lead FJ rants about how it's "forced diversity". You guys are like the SJWs on Tumblr ranting about how all the movies with white heroes are racist.
User avatar #171 to #155 - lotrfan (12/26/2015) [-]
Rey was sick. **** anyone complaining or even celebrating the fact that she's a female leading character. Stop making it such a big deal! Just let cool characters be cool without making it about being progressive or whatever
User avatar #176 to #171 - gabemczombie (12/26/2015) [-]
Thank you! People need to stop focusing on gender and skin colour and start focusing on quality in storytelling
#194 to #155 - figatron ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
I had no problem with Rey. It didn't feel like her character was forced because they wanted a female lead. I've heard the racecard arguments with fin but he's a supporting character at best. I normally hate SJWs but I just don't see it here. he gets his ass beat in every fight and just looks like a fool every time he makes a decision
#102 - iafarmerboy (12/26/2015) [-]
Can we start talking spoilers? Cuz I was a little disappointed with the movie and I want some damn answers.
User avatar #103 to #102 - runelh [OP](12/26/2015) [-]
WHat is on your mind?
#104 to #103 - iafarmerboy (12/26/2015) [-]
I know this movie was all about character development but I didn't care for some of the characters, and their abilities.
User avatar #106 to #104 - runelh [OP](12/26/2015) [-]
Well that is very subjective and I can't give answers to that. That is really down to preferences.
#107 to #106 - iafarmerboy (12/26/2015) [-]
Yeah I would go more indepth but I don't want to spoil the movie for anyone.
User avatar #108 to #107 - runelh [OP](12/26/2015) [-]
Just use spoilersTHen you can talk freely.
#109 to #108 - iafarmerboy (12/26/2015) [-]
Well I know Kylo was wounded, but it is crazy that Ren pretty much defeated him. Force sensitive or not, she had no training at all. And I think they should have left Ren's mask on. He totally lost his intimidation factor. I also don't like how the story line seems old hat. After the empire was defeated, they let a new empire take it's place? And Luke ran off like Kenobi after Kylo went full Darth.
User avatar #113 to #109 - runelh [OP](12/26/2015) [-]
You didn't use spoiler, but all right!
First point! Rey Winning over Rey. There is many factors to that battle, that many has pointed out. Emotional unstable (He just killed his father), The wound, being in unbalance with the force and some also pointed he used a lot of energy when he threw Rey 15 feet into a tree, etc.
Where as to Rey, no formal Training no... But she knew how to use a weapon and how to defend herself very well and if you analyze the battle, Rey is running away for the most part of it and Kylo is always on top, but he grows weaker by each second. Also he hold a bit back because as he says to Rey (I can show you the ways of the force) he might not ever intended to kill until he got the answer.
She is force sensitive, just like Luke... She could already fight so when she let go and listened to the force it gave her a pretty good boost against a very weakened Kylo Ren, who isn't fully trained might I add.
It is just as much as Luke managed to shoot two torpedos down a two meter wide shaft into the death star... A shot near impossible without the help of a computer, let alone without. He lets go and listens to the force and BAM, miracle.
But in the end, with this fight, no matter what it really depends if you like it this way or not, but I highly thought that fight was plausible.

All right, point 2! The mask. I think it was the whole point him looking kinda like a whimp. He was never supposed to be this badass, he just pretended to be one... A peacock that puffs up all his feathers to look impressive. The character wasn't fully evil yet and he needed to be humanized to still make people believe he could be turned back to the light side. He strives to be Darth Vader, but all he is was a kid who still had much and much to learn about everything. So in the end, I think this one is 100% preference if you like him or not. He is a character and deep one, the question is just if you like the character presented before you.

Point 3, THe first order being powerful. It states that The First order is only remnants of the Empire, so they are not as powerful, far from really (or at least not as much control in the galaxy). ANd they even had trade routes and under trade restrictions by the republic(I think!). But yea, I do also think it is kinda ******** they the republic never noticed building a planet sized death machine... Especially when they were under supervision.

Point 4, Like hiding. I think it was he was just ashamed to look anyone in the eyes... He couldn't bare looking Han and Leia, his sister and best friend, in the eyes and tell them he failed THEIR SON, his nephew. Also brought unbalance to the force, yet again.
When he felt Han Solo's Death he then allowed them to find them through R2-D2, ( I speculate that he put R2 in some sort of Sleep mode and activated him through the force, but we will see).
So the difference between him and Kenobi is actually huge. Kenobi Hid because he HAD TO, or he would be killed. Luke Hid because he was ashamed, not because he had to. He cowered out, instead of trying to make things right. So I think it will also be about Luke's redemption for his failure.
User avatar #116 to #113 - kjftiger (12/26/2015) [-]
I agree with everything but have a different idea with R2. I think Luke programmed R2 to not wake up until he was near someone related to Luke, other than Leia, or someone that Luke already knew, some theries suggest that she is Lukes daughter, or even that she was another pupil that Luke managed to save and mind swipe. R2 did not wake up until she arrived .
User avatar #117 to #116 - runelh [OP](12/26/2015) [-]
I honestly don't think Rey is Luke's daughter, it would be too obvious... We already have one Skywalker, Kylo. For the same reason that in their marketing they showed Finn with the lightsaber and not Rey and they know most people think that Rey is Lukes daughter and that is also what I think they want us to think.
Storyline wise, I think it makes sense rey's mind was wiped and she was a pupil before sent to Jakku(even though I have my skepticism on that aswell, but we will see), but I just can't get it into my head that if she is indeed lukes daughter he left her on a desert planet AS A SLAVE, or at least without any family or guardians to actually protect her. If that is case, Luke might be like "That was to prepare you, huehue" but I find that as stupid as Ben Kenobi telling Luke "From a cartain point of view, Darth Vader killed Anakin".
I will actually be kinda dissappointed if Rey is Luke's Daughter... Seems to easy and the fact that it goes with the "You have to be a skywalker to be really powerful with the force". I would much rather having her not as the daughter of Luke
User avatar #118 to #117 - kjftiger (12/26/2015) [-]
I see what you mean, might not have been Luke who left her there, maybe Ren could have had a soft spot for her and did not want to kill her, he did seem to be interested when he heard about a girl from Jakku and after her met her wanted to convert her. Plus Leia probably would have recognized her as her niece when she saw her. On a side note, I hope we get to see something relating to Kenobi, just because he was one of my favorite characters.
User avatar #119 to #118 - runelh [OP](12/26/2015) [-]
Exactly! THere is no way Leia wouldn't react to her... Felt in the force or something. And I do think that there is a connection that they, that he seemed interested in the girl, but that can be seen in two ways
1) That he knows about her.
2) That it was only a statement as in "What girl helped the traitor?" and not necessaliry because that the girl meant anything to him
But I to felt like it was a bit of option 1.

ANd yes, could be awesome! I can't just not see how anything would be blood related to Kenobi. Maybe force connected! Go kenobi!
User avatar #120 to #119 - kjftiger (12/26/2015) [-]
May have just been the way I perceived it I guess, but I definitely believe that she was once a pupil and someone got her out before **** went down. This movie gave a lot of questions and little answers, but overall I really enjoyed it and actually liked the humor they added to it.
User avatar #121 to #120 - runelh [OP](12/26/2015) [-]
And I loved how they kept many things in the dark for them to be answered later. Many complain about these things, but it will all be much clearer when we have the big picture of everything. Just like how people felt when empire came out and had to wait 3 years to get answers... Many felt unsatisfied back then aswell. SO I can't wait to see how it turns out.
Excellent movie and I enjoyed almost everything about it.
User avatar #122 to #121 - kjftiger (12/26/2015) [-]
Same here, not sure why everyone wants to know all of the answers at once. What would be left for the other 2 movies in the future? Also, calling it now, someone is going to lose a limb in the next movie. A mentor always dies in the first and a main character loses a limb in the second
User avatar #123 to #122 - runelh [OP](12/26/2015) [-]
Totally agree.
Hahaha, I didn't consider that actually... Let us see! Can't wait.
User avatar #163 to #123 - holycrapimacupcake (12/26/2015) [-]
Question for you, Kylo's name is really Ben, do you think this means more EU characters will be referenced or even brought back to be in the films?
User avatar #166 to #163 - runelh [OP](12/26/2015) [-]
I am not completely sure to be honest... I certainly think there will perhaps some kind of references and or insperation of some of the EU characters or just the EU in general. But actually coming back, I don't have an educated guess for that.
#110 to #109 - iafarmerboy (12/26/2015) [-]
It just seems like the same storyline with different people. Luke is gonna train Ren, just like he was trained, and she will defeat Kylo.
#197 to #110 - iafarmerboy (12/28/2015) [-]
I just now got the spoiler image thing. I am ashamed now.
User avatar #98 - nastoy (12/26/2015) [-]
At this point, i am starting to wanna watch the movie more because of him.
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User avatar #86 - kaiserdjg (12/26/2015) [-]
but she be ugly doe
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